It is unproven that these are related qualities. The standing joke here is the inability of geeks to attract a mate to procreate, to obtain employment in order to acquire food and shelter, etc.
Real life suggests that "brainest" types can survive only with the assistance of their less brainy brethern. i.e. in universities endowed by non-intellectual business types or in tax payer supported government slots.
"If you want your country defended, do it yourself"
This is good for a counrty, but not an empire. When Marius allowed non landholding citizens to become Roman Soldiers, he created an army dependent on him. The subsequent rise of personal armies spelled the demise of the Roman Republic. At the time of Marius, auxilliary units of non Romans were used. As citizenship was extended throughout the Empire, almost everyone qualified for military service. Most "barbarian" tribes on the outskirts of the empire were allowed status as "Socii", Fratri" etc. and were also eligible for military service in the armies of the empire.
Inclusiveness/co-option was the successful strategy of both the early Roman Republic when they made citizens of their neighbors after conquering them and of the empire.
This may be the model for Microsofts business methods.
I met a traveler from an antique land Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read, Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed, And on the pedestal these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings: Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
An individal aka "Tyhart" on WebTv is/was one of the most detested individuals on WebTv. His actions and methods so angered many individuals, that a WebTv discussion group, alt.discuss.clubs.public.tysux was formed and attracted a large number of posters.
Jeansonne was a close friend and ally of
"Tyhart", and was in contact with him and received advice from him on how to avoid detection after the exploit was released.
The targets of the 911 exploit were the founders and frequent posters at the tysux newsgroup. The exploit was intended to embarass these people by bringing police and emergency services to their homes. Several of these individuals were threatened with being charged with making prank/false calls to their local 911 services. Especially after the second or third call to 911 by the WebTv unit.
Eventually, calls to MSNTv's service center got things straightened out. The victims were given the codes to reset the WebTv units and restore the normal dial up phone numbers.
The victims are personal friends and acquaintences of mine. They are just average people; housewives, retirees, etc. They were quite upset and distressed by the sudden appearance of police at their doors. The exploit was sent to them in emails using the return address of their personal friends. They had no reason to not open the emails. Only the quick posting of news about exploit in many alt.discuss news groups prevented it from spreading much farther.
"Tyhart" and Jeansonne have been TOSed by MSNTv and their accounts closed.
For those unfamiliar with WebTv, it has a very strong community of users. Strong friendships are formed and bitter enemies made. The alt.discuss news groups were set up by WebTv/MSNTv to enable their users to have fora for their specific interests, which are not always shared by the internet community at large. These groups are firewalled from the PC community for the sanity of both sides. When trolling became a huge problem, club news groups were introduced. Every user can set up a public (open to all) or private (open by invitation only) news group and can moderate the posts. The control extends to banning those who can not abide by rules.
WebTv is often reviled by many PC users. For many of us it was an inexpensive introduction to the wonders of the internet and a wonderful way to move beyond our own narrow interests. While it is indeed limited in many ways, it is wonderful for the technically inept and those who just do not wish to go through the trouble of learning to use an OS that does a million things they didn't want in the first place.
The Crusades used religion as an excuse for looting, pillaging, and land grabs. A major goal was the seizing of lands by younger and non-inheriting members of the nobility. As much effort went into fighting and looting christian states as muslim. Constantinople, the Christian citys of costal Anatolia suffered from the invasion of the European barbarians. When Jerusalem fell, resident Christians, Jews, and Muslims were slaughtered indiscriminately.
Without religion, another excuse would have been found for the invasion of a preceivced weaker area.
I work outdoors and wear glasses. Digital watches are difficult to read in sunlight and impossible without glasses. When I buy a watch, I look at the display without my glasses. All the ones I can read are then pulled by the sales clerk for a second look. None are digital.
I doubt that sort of name change will win anything. Too many people think "free" is the same as cheap, as in shoddy. Or worse, used only by poor people.
I would instead suggest the use of a name that implies ease of use. e.g. EZLinux
Average user really wants to uncomplicate an overly complicated gadget. The price of the OS is not that important to him.
I suspect that there are a lot of people like me who work long hours and don't have time to do a lenghty install. Knoppix allows me to enjoy and explore Linux in the little time I have available.
Historically, they did. In Europe, pre Industrial Revolution, it was common. Until relatively recent times, there were few ways for women to earn a living. Unmaried adult lower class females became unpaid domestic servents for the family, were shoved into a convent, or sent to do whatever they could.
In the early US, the factory system developed quickly and provided an alternate means of earning money. The New England textile factories were run almost exclusively on the labor of young women, who were exploited in the usual ways.
Prostitution was more wide spread during the Depression in the US. Simply put, it is an available choice for poorly educated, unskilled people who have no alternatives, such as assembly line jobs. This is in any country. A fine example in literature would be "Crime and Punishment"
The whole point of my post was that low paid jobs are sometimes the better alternative. Many people have never seen or understood the dispiriting horror of real poverty and its consequences. Even in "advanced" nations, there are undeveloped areas where poverty presents its unpleasant choices. These areas are seldom visited by the protesting types.
The person who has one of those low paying third world jobs does have a few benefits.
His daughters will not have to turn to prostitution to earn money for food, etc. Nor will he have to sell them to raise cash.
His children can go to school instead of prowling through
landfills hoping to find salable items.
His family will be able to eat regularly. He is in a position to have his very own mud/straw/adobe abode.
And on and on. I suspect that few people see things from the "oppressed" workers view. While it would be good if all workers had the pay and benefits of US and European workers, the little that they get is big step up for most of them.
I neither advocate nor oppose exploitation of third world workers. I do notice that even in the third world, a low paying job is better than none.
Most cemeteries own the plot. The "customer" buys only burial rights. This prevents a tangle of thousands of deed holders for a small piece of land.
The body is controlled by the estate. Disinterment is common. Bodies are dug up to to be moved to other cemeteries, another plot next to a loved one, to be cremated, and for totally inane reasons. All it takes is money and a legal relationship to the deceased.
If the courts are involved, a judges order will be sufficient.
Guns were designed to replace/eliminate the skill and costs associated with prior weapons.
The learning curve for an armored knight was steep and long. Only the wealthy and powerful were able to have the years necessary and the money to attain that level of weapon expertise.
Firrearms brought lethel expertise to anyone who could be given a few weeks training. The advances in firearms have been to make them cheaply available and easier to use. Only in places such as the USA, Great Britian, etc., where damage to felons is unlawful has gun ownership been placed under restrictions.
In many countries, security is available only to those who pocess and use weapons.
Any weapon can be abused by the unwitting and unlawful. It needs to be pointed out that many more children are killed riding in cars driven by their parents than are killed by firearms.
Its not a Pledge, its a Loyalty Oath. A dinosaur left over from the Macarthy era. Under God = anti Godless Communism. In the view of Macarthy and his followers, anyone refusing to publicly pledge loyalty to the Unted States of America was an enemy.
Since communism is now defunct, the current crop of rightwingers uses Terrorism as its bogeyman. The rhetoric of the early 50's and the language of Ashcroft, Bush, et al. is very similar
"It is disgusting how easily people revert to mob behavior."
Hue and Cry would be more accurate. It once was the obligation of everyone to drop what he was doing and to persue miscreants and bring them to justice. Alas, tarring and feathering is passe, so running these people down will have to do.
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It is unproven that these are related qualities. The standing joke here is the inability of geeks to attract a mate to procreate, to obtain employment in order to acquire food and shelter, etc. Real life suggests that "brainest" types can survive only with the assistance of their less brainy brethern. i.e. in universities endowed by non-intellectual business types or in tax payer supported government slots.
My geekgirl wife read this thread, smiled and said:
We're taking over the world, dear.
Passengers raise questions.
while
The government begs them.
Prestidigitician: A person who turns an inert box into a working computer.
A nice isolated semi-desert sort of place. Go there is you really want to escape everything.
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"If you want your country defended, do it yourself"
This is good for a counrty, but not an empire. When Marius allowed non landholding citizens to become Roman Soldiers, he created an army dependent on him. The subsequent rise of personal armies spelled the demise of the Roman Republic. At the time of Marius, auxilliary units of non Romans were used. As citizenship was extended throughout the Empire, almost everyone qualified for military service. Most "barbarian" tribes on the outskirts of the empire were allowed status as "Socii", Fratri" etc. and were also eligible for military service in the armies of the empire.
Inclusiveness/co-option was the successful strategy of both the early Roman Republic when they made citizens of their neighbors after conquering them and of the empire.
This may be the model for Microsofts business methods.
Ozymandias
I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
According to the terms of service used by MSNTv, anything you write, make or do with a MSNTv unit, if it is on a MSN server, is MSN's sole property.
This includes webpages, email, alt.discuss posts and anything else they can find on their servers.
An individal aka "Tyhart" on WebTv is/was one of the most detested individuals on WebTv. His actions and methods so angered many individuals, that a WebTv discussion group, alt.discuss.clubs.public.tysux was formed and attracted a large number of posters.
Jeansonne was a close friend and ally of "Tyhart", and was in contact with him and received advice from him on how to avoid detection after the exploit was released.
The targets of the 911 exploit were the founders and frequent posters at the tysux newsgroup. The exploit was intended to embarass these people by bringing police and emergency services to their homes. Several of these individuals were threatened with being charged with making prank/false calls to their local 911 services. Especially after the second or third call to 911 by the WebTv unit.
Eventually, calls to MSNTv's service center got things straightened out. The victims were given the codes to reset the WebTv units and restore the normal dial up phone numbers.
The victims are personal friends and acquaintences of mine. They are just average people; housewives, retirees, etc. They were quite upset and distressed by the sudden appearance of police at their doors. The exploit was sent to them in emails using the return address of their personal friends. They had no reason to not open the emails. Only the quick posting of news about exploit in many alt.discuss news groups prevented it from spreading much farther.
"Tyhart" and Jeansonne have been TOSed by MSNTv and their accounts closed.
For those unfamiliar with WebTv, it has a very strong community of users. Strong friendships are formed and bitter enemies made. The alt.discuss news groups were set up by WebTv/MSNTv to enable their users to have fora for their specific interests, which are not always shared by the internet community at large. These groups are firewalled from the PC community for the sanity of both sides. When trolling became a huge problem, club news groups were introduced. Every user can set up a public (open to all) or private (open by invitation only) news group and can moderate the posts. The control extends to banning those who can not abide by rules.
WebTv is often reviled by many PC users. For many of us it was an inexpensive introduction to the wonders of the internet and a wonderful way to move beyond our own narrow interests. While it is indeed limited in many ways, it is wonderful for the technically inept and those who just do not wish to go through the trouble of learning to use an OS that does a million things they didn't want in the first place.
It would be for the person who sees you being mugged/raped/murdered.
After he finishes using his digicam/phonecam to record the event for posterity, he can call the proper authorities.
And the Washington Post and the New York Times do not have vested interests?
The Crusades used religion as an excuse for looting, pillaging, and land grabs. A major goal was the seizing of lands by younger and non-inheriting members of the nobility. As much effort went into fighting and looting christian states as muslim. Constantinople, the Christian citys of costal Anatolia suffered from the invasion of the European barbarians. When Jerusalem fell, resident Christians, Jews, and Muslims were slaughtered indiscriminately. Without religion, another excuse would have been found for the invasion of a preceivced weaker area.
But it won't slow 0 and -1 posts.
Ah, flippant youth.
I work outdoors and wear glasses. Digital watches are difficult to read in sunlight and impossible without glasses. When I buy a watch, I look at the display without my glasses. All the ones I can read are then pulled by the sales clerk for a second look. None are digital.
Fasteners
If you have a really good local hardware store, they often carry fasteners in more sizes than the Borg Stores.
I doubt that sort of name change will win anything. Too many people think "free" is the same as cheap, as in shoddy. Or worse, used only by poor people.
I would instead suggest the use of a name that implies ease of use. e.g. EZLinux
Average user really wants to uncomplicate an overly complicated gadget. The price of the OS is not that important to him.
I suspect that there are a lot of people like me who work long hours and don't have time to do a lenghty install. Knoppix allows me to enjoy and explore Linux in the little time I have available.
Historically, they did. In Europe, pre Industrial Revolution, it was common. Until relatively recent times, there were few ways for women to earn a living. Unmaried adult lower class females became unpaid domestic servents for the family, were shoved into a convent, or sent to do whatever they could. In the early US, the factory system developed quickly and provided an alternate means of earning money. The New England textile factories were run almost exclusively on the labor of young women, who were exploited in the usual ways. Prostitution was more wide spread during the Depression in the US. Simply put, it is an available choice for poorly educated, unskilled people who have no alternatives, such as assembly line jobs. This is in any country. A fine example in literature would be "Crime and Punishment" The whole point of my post was that low paid jobs are sometimes the better alternative. Many people have never seen or understood the dispiriting horror of real poverty and its consequences. Even in "advanced" nations, there are undeveloped areas where poverty presents its unpleasant choices. These areas are seldom visited by the protesting types.
The person who has one of those low paying third world jobs does have a few benefits.
His daughters will not have to turn to prostitution to earn money for food, etc. Nor will he have to sell them to raise cash.
His children can go to school instead of prowling through landfills hoping to find salable items.
His family will be able to eat regularly. He is in a position to have his very own mud/straw/adobe abode.
And on and on. I suspect that few people see things from the "oppressed" workers view. While it would be good if all workers had the pay and benefits of US and European workers, the little that they get is big step up for most of them.
I neither advocate nor oppose exploitation of third world workers. I do notice that even in the third world, a low paying job is better than none.
Most cemeteries own the plot. The "customer" buys only burial rights. This prevents a tangle of thousands of deed holders for a small piece of land. The body is controlled by the estate. Disinterment is common. Bodies are dug up to to be moved to other cemeteries, another plot next to a loved one, to be cremated, and for totally inane reasons. All it takes is money and a legal relationship to the deceased. If the courts are involved, a judges order will be sufficient.
Guns were designed to replace/eliminate the skill and costs associated with prior weapons.
The learning curve for an armored knight was steep and long. Only the wealthy and powerful were able to have the years necessary and the money to attain that level of weapon expertise.
Firrearms brought lethel expertise to anyone who could be given a few weeks training. The advances in firearms have been to make them cheaply available and easier to use. Only in places such as the USA, Great Britian, etc., where damage to felons is unlawful has gun ownership been placed under restrictions.
In many countries, security is available only to those who pocess and use weapons.
Any weapon can be abused by the unwitting and unlawful. It needs to be pointed out that many more children are killed riding in cars driven by their parents than are killed by firearms.
Its not a Pledge, its a Loyalty Oath. A dinosaur left over from the Macarthy era. Under God = anti Godless Communism. In the view of Macarthy and his followers, anyone refusing to publicly pledge loyalty to the Unted States of America was an enemy. Since communism is now defunct, the current crop of rightwingers uses Terrorism as its bogeyman. The rhetoric of the early 50's and the language of Ashcroft, Bush, et al. is very similar
"It is disgusting how easily people revert to mob behavior."
Hue and Cry would be more accurate. It once was the obligation of everyone to drop what he was doing and to persue miscreants and bring them to justice. Alas, tarring and feathering is passe, so running these people down will have to do.
Chief Operating Officer of Symantec, John Schwarz, cleverly distupts /.ers from their usual thoughtful discussions....