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Titan Missile Complex Up for Sale

ckeck writes "Take a look at this, some guy in Washington State is auctioning off a 'Titan Missile Complex' on eBay. I don't know if this is a fake auction or not, but I already talked to the gentleman running the auction on the phone and plan to take a visit to the complex! This would be an awesome place to live! Check it out here." Looks like he bought it in 1999.

262 comments

  1. Time to move :) by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 5, Funny

    Checklist:

    1. Move to Missile Complex
    2. Change name to Dr. Evil
    3. Hold the world hostage
    4. Profit

    See, I didn't use a ??? part, they are so lame ;)

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    1. Re:Time to move :) by Almond+Tree · · Score: 0

      How many missles come with that? Talk about your Homeland security!

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    2. Re:Time to move :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Soviet Russia... missle complex owns you.
      Welcome to Titan Missle Complex-owning overlords.
      The Computer is your friend in Titan Missle Complex.

    3. Re:Time to move :) by Jotaigna · · Score: 1

      in step 2, 2b, get a pal to call mini me (maybe u have that one already)
      in step 3, ask for "one million trillion gzillion dollars"

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    4. Re:Time to move :) by danormsby · · Score: 1

      I thought it was... Step 1 ) Collect underpants Step 2 ) ??? Step 3 ) Profit

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    5. Re:Time to move :) by KDan · · Score: 1

      Last Bid: O. Bin Laden

      Daniel

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    6. Re:Time to move :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, except that that joke is old and tired on slashdot, moron.

    7. Re:Time to move :) by erc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1. Buy missile complex for $300K or less.
      2. Get $500K in donations to fix up your own private property (a scam in and of itself).
      3. Sell on eBay for $3.95 million.
      4. Profit.

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    8. Re:Time to move :) by roblaird · · Score: 1

      Has anyone seen any auctions for henchmen? I'll be needing some of those.

    9. Re:Time to move :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its pretty obvious he doesnt want to sell it unless someone really is insane enough to plunk down 3.95 million for it. He could probably make decent money renting it out to movie producers looking for a set for their latest scifi adventure.

    10. Re:Time to move :) by anagama · · Score: 1

      Ralph Benson was on his way to world domination. However, rather than doing the traditional 2, 3, and 4, he chose this less effective path:
      • 1. Movie to missle complex in WA State

      • 2. Murder tax man
        3. Get caught
        4. Go to prison.

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    11. Re:Time to move :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yay, somebody actually RTFA *and* caught that. I wish I had come up with a scam like this. By the way, the article doesn't say the price he actually paid, it just says the complex was on the market for a while at $300K; he probably negotiated it down.

  2. visit to the bank by Borg453b · · Score: 1

    Good morning generic bank-guy.

    That's right; I need a loan

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    1. Re:visit to the bank by WesG · · Score: 5, Funny

      We could recreate scene's from Half-Life within the silo complex. I want to be Gordon!

      I can see it know...(cheesy guy looking up as the camera blurs/wave effect)

      "Nothing you need to worry about, Gordon. Go ahead."

      "I have just been informed that the sample is ready, Gordon. It should be coming up to you any moment now. Look to the delivery system for your specimen."

      "Standard insertion for a nonstandard specimen. Go ahead, Gordon. Slot the carrier into the analysis port."

      "Gordon! Get away from the beams!"

      Oh the fun we could have....:-)

  3. Re:Here's the auction link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Expensive? Did you see how much it is, and what you can do with it?

  4. Pack the bags! by edwardd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Honey, we're moving to Washington!!!

    Imagine mapping this (your HOUSE) for a Quake / Unreal map!!

    1. Re:Pack the bags! by sofakingon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If every slashdotter pitched in a little cash, we could form a /. retreat or something

    2. Re:Pack the bags! by ElizabethP · · Score: 1

      That kind of smacks of the Branch Dividian situation doesn't it? The ensuing gassing by the FBI has the potential to be extremely psychedelic. But who will be our Jesus?

    3. Re:Pack the bags! by michrech · · Score: 1

      All right... All right.. If no one else is going to respond, then I will, my son...

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    4. Re:Pack the bags! by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Forget mapping it, actually play in it! That complex is just screaming out to be used as a paintball/laser tag arena. Imagine the orange warning lights spinning around and a computerised female voice 'Thirty seconds till missile launch' over the sound system.

      Hell, with the strength of the pound against the dollar even I might buy it! $3,950,000 that's like, what, 2 grand of my money? (just getting one back for the Canadians)

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    5. Re:Pack the bags! by Kneht · · Score: 2, Funny
      That kind of smacks of the Branch Dividian situation doesn't it? The ensuing gassing by the FBI has the potential to be extremely psychedelic. But who will be our Jesus?

      We would have a poll,of course, and for once, "CowboyNeal" would be a real option.

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    6. Re:Pack the bags! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CowboyNeal as Jesus? I could support that.

      You get the 2x4s. I'll get the hammer and nails.

    7. Re:Pack the bags! by lommer · · Score: 1

      Ok, sounds like a plan. I'll be generous and offer to set up a bank account in my name - once donations reach $3,950,000 I'll buy the place and invite some slashdotters over...

    8. Re:Pack the bags! by JewFish · · Score: 1

      The Canadian dollar has less value the the American dollar (USD). XE.com says every USD is worth ~1.3 CAD today. So how are you getting one back for the Canadians, with their inflated dollar?

    9. Re:Pack the bags! by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      American slashdotters mock the Canadian currency for its weakness against the US dollar. I mock the Americans for the weakness of the US dollar against the pound. Therefore I am getting one back for the Canadians.

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    10. Re:Pack the bags! by ElizabethP · · Score: 1
      Sorted.

      CowboyNeal, however, really needs mousy hair and a weird God complex. Does he fulfill those requirements? If not, I think John Kerry with his hair grown out would make a good Jesus.

      Of course, we could be unique and have a Mohammed, instead.

    11. Re:Pack the bags! by alienmole · · Score: 1
      Hell, with the strength of the pound against the dollar even I might buy it! $3,950,000 that's like, what, 2 grand of my money? (just getting one back for the Canadians)

      This makes no sense. You'd be much better off spending your 2 grand in Canada, where it would be worth something like a billion Canadian dollars. You could probably buy most of Toronto!

    12. Re:Pack the bags! by B3ryllium · · Score: 1
      Yes, but ask yourself this:

      Does Canada have missile silos?



      (come to think of it, Canada stored many US nuclear warheads up until recently)
  5. duh. by torpor · · Score: 2, Interesting


    you've always been able to buy missile silo's on the internet.

    for-ever. since day one.

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    1. Re:duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a stupid Slashdot post. The parent is right. Missile silos have been for sale for years; on ebay and elsewhere. Next up: Laser printer for sale on ebay! WOW!

  6. dupe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or was there a similar facility for sale like 3 months ago or so.. then again the link might have travelled around in irc and didn't reach slashdot

  7. Owners reputation. by zaunuz · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you look closely on EBay, 19 people have voted him up. 19 people are satisfied with his previous auction, which leads to this conclution: The person selling it may not be faking it, but how the hell did he get it in the first place?

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    1. Re:Owners reputation. by Luigi30 · · Score: 1

      The Army doesn't keep the silos when they take the nukes. They auction off the silos to multi-millionaires or something.

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    2. Re:Owners reputation. by samsmithnz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Except that he has 19 comments from SELLERS, which means he was buying, not selling on Ebay.

    3. Re:Owners reputation. by bwy · · Score: 2, Informative

      He probably got it through some type of goverment auction when the facility was decomissioned. I'm sure the feds removed anything of any sensitivity before putting it on the block.

      Maybe he should track down whoever ended up buying that F-18/A from a few weeks back... Maybe they need some real estate too!

    4. Re:Owners reputation. by PHlLlPY · · Score: 3, Insightful

      not millionares, but rather just landowners in the area (farmers, ranchers,...) for really low prices. the high cost is in cleaning the chemicals and whatever other crap is in there before you can "move-in." There is even a real-estate agency that specializes in stuff like this (no time to search for it right now). I've seen smaller silos go for about $250,000 plus the cost to cleanup.

    5. Re:Owners reputation. by d8ta · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When the government was decomissioning its Titan missile program in the 1990s, it sold off a number of properties like this. For example, also in the Eastern Washington area, some private investors bought the former Titan facilities located above ground and are running it as an ultra-secure data center facility [titanone.com]. The owner group includes a couple of former Microsoft execs. (Insert your favorite security joke here.)

    6. Re:Owners reputation. by e.colli · · Score: 0

      Could be true, because his last buy has a "new eletric demo hammer / concrete breaker". :)

    7. Re:Owners reputation. by Lumpy · · Score: 1, Informative

      only an absolute fool aould take an ebay rating as a safe bet.

      when I bought my Xl-1 camera the first person I bought from had a ebay rating of 98. and it was a scam. he set up a "escrow" company website and lots of other things to make him look legit..

      ebay rating means NOTHING. anyone can get a high ebay rating easily by selling low priced crap for almost nothing, plus having fake accounts/friends help to bring things up by "buying" and rating it on up.

      know your seller, CALL them, and then call back at wierd/inconvienent hours. hell for $3,000,000.00 plus I'd make an unnanounced visit or two. if you are spending big $$$ with them have a background check done, research them etc...

      I was only spending $2000.00 on ebay and I called the guy's father, visited his business, and called at least 3 different times one of shich to a number he DID NOT give me but was listed in the phone book.

      Fools and their money are easily seperated, espically on ebay.

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    8. Re:Owners reputation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Army doesn't own them to start with. It is the USAF, was under SAC, now under AFSPC/STRATCOM.

    9. Re:Owners reputation. by stm2 · · Score: 1

      Maybe this is a little offtopic, but I didn't understand why the Xl-1 camera auction was a scam? Didn't you get the camera? You got it but never worked?

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    10. Re:Owners reputation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://cjonline.com/webindepth/missilesilos/storie s/120400_missilebases.shtml

      all you need to know.

    11. Re:Owners reputation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      depends. If they guy has 99% good reviews from 3000 buyers and sellers, but you're only buying a $100 item, It wouldn't be worth it to him to be a scam.

      You called the dude's father?? Youre one of THOSE buyers huh?

    12. Re:Owners reputation. by OgGreeb · · Score: 1

      According to the Tri-City Hearld article, the
      original seller asked for $300K in 1999, and it
      is unspecified how much Mr. Hotchkiss actually
      paid. Depending on how much money he pumped into
      the site, other tan the incredible luck of
      obtaining the site in the first place, it
      might not have taken much money to purchase it.
      Whether he can get $3.5M for it now is an unanswered
      question.

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    13. Re:Owners reputation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From his description, he probably didn't. The scammer set up a fake escrow company (a not uncommon scam) the poster sent his money to the escrow company, expecting that they would hold it in escrow. Instead, they took the money and that was the last the poster heard from anyone. Happens all the time to the naive.

      That said, real-estate sold on ebay is a whole different matter - ebay is just like a big listing service not really an actual auction. You still end up buying the real estate the same way you would in the "real world" which includes ass-loads of paperwork and red-tape.

    14. Re:Owners reputation. by afidel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Except you'd be suprised how often they forget to demill stuff before selling it. Like the F-18 that went up for sale a while ago, due to a paperwork messup it wasn't classified as needing to be demilled so the mainspar wasn't cut. There was also the nuclear diffusion plant whos equipment was sold as scrap without being cut up (the new owner tried to sell it to the Israeli's before the CIA knocked on his door, his comment was that at least he didn't try to sell it to Iran). There are tons of other lesser examples all the time.

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    15. Re:Owners reputation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are three possible locations:
      47d,11m,18s;118d,49m,23s,
      46d,55m,4s;119d,3m,19s,
      46d,54m,30s;119d,45m,23s

      The joys of google, etc.

    16. Re:Owners reputation. by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 1

      The person selling it may not be faking it, but how the hell did he get it in the first place? He and the heads of the armed forced were playing five card stud poker one evening.

      He won and gained one Titan missile complex, two airbases, a nuclear powered aircraft carrier and three tank battalions. But since he didn't have the space for the latter three, he just kept the missile complex.

    17. Re:Owners reputation. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      because the first auction the guy was "on a trip in germany" and wanted me to wire him cash, and then his friend will send me the camera.

      funny how the escrow company he wanted me to use said it had been around for 5 years yet it's domain was registered only 30 days previous and the hosting company though it was a information site.

      I went through 5 auctions until I found a legit seller. and I STILL ran him through the are you real mill.

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    18. Re:Owners reputation. by returnoftheyeti · · Score: 1

      I am way to late to be modded and I havn't read all the comments yet, BUT, this is a repete auction. I saw the same auction for the same property for the same buy it now price about 2 months ago. Maby if it dosnt sell this time the seller will lower the price.

    19. Re:Owners reputation. by Phurd+Phlegm · · Score: 1
      The Army doesn't keep the silos when they take the nukes. They auction off the silos to multi-millionaires or something.

      Just to keep the record straight, it's the Air Force that has charge of the land-based strategic missle force. I don't know if the Army has any nuclear weapons any more. I think not, though.

  8. Saw a show about something like this on TV by The+I+Shing · · Score: 2, Informative

    I saw a show about something like this on TV a couple years ago. A couple bought a missle silo and moved into it. They fixed it up really nice, with a grand piano and carpeting and everything.

    Or maybe I just dreamed it.

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    1. Re:Saw a show about something like this on TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
      Or maybe I just dreamed it.

      Yeah those gulf-war drugs will ware off any time now.

    2. Re:Saw a show about something like this on TV by alx512 · · Score: 3, Funny

      No you weren't dreaming. That silo was in my home state of Kansas and they bought it for some ungodly cheap sum (like 40-80k or something). The government was selling them off.

      They also flooded some of them and you can book dive trips to go scuba diving in them.

  9. Quite the fix up by Bryant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to the 1999 article, the original asking price was $300,000. The guy who bought it is asking $3,500,000. That's a bit of a markup, there.

    It makes sense if he put a lot of money and time into renovating it; that's probably the case if there's someone currently occupying the property. (Which the auction hints at.)

    1. Re:Quite the fix up by pegr · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's one in Denver for only $1,450,000.

      Here's what looks to be a realtor specializing in old silos. Quite a collection for the truly paranoid!

    2. Re:Quite the fix up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the price seemed a little steep because, there was an article in the Denver post a couple of years ago about people and companies buying missle silos out on the plains. It was some what affordable and the companies were using them for server space. I thought they were going for around 200,000

    3. Re:Quite the fix up by Colz+Grigor · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Yeah, but that's a heck of a markup. I sincerely doubt the guy has put $3,200,000 worth of renovations into the property.

      My guess: he got an extremely good deal on the property in the first place, perhaps at a government auction. More power to him: if someone is willing to pay $3.5 million for his property, that's what it's worth! We'll see...

      ::Colz Grigor

    4. Re:Quite the fix up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I sincerely doubt the guy has put $3,200,000 worth of renovations into the property.

      I hate to tell you this, but missile silos and real estate aren't GPL. You can sell them for whatever someone's willing to pay. It doesn't matter if he put $3 million or $3 into it. If you feel it's a bad deal, then don't buy. If everyone feels it's a bad deal, then he'll be back with a lower price.

    5. Re:Quite the fix up by swb · · Score: 1

      A $3.2 million markup is a lot, but, if the guy is accurate and there is zero groundwater seepage into the facility (either through his actions or sheer dumb luck), perhaps that alone provides extra value.

      They're not making any more of these (at least not for sale), and those that are out there tend to be in rough condition, so if it has one of the few in good condition without any groundwater problems it may just be "worth" more.

      Is it apparent that he actually did improvements, too? Water-tight or not, you'd think that it'd take a fairly sophisticated air management system to keep the humidity and all of its nasty consequences in check as well.

    6. Re:Quite the fix up by rijrunner · · Score: 1

      Been following that website for years.. and none of the local missile bases ever get posted, except the one I can't afford

    7. Re:Quite the fix up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take a look at the sale.. the Ex-Air intake is Ex. That means there is no air intake available and thus the facility is bunk. I would argue 3.5M on that alone.

    8. Re:Quite the fix up by pegr · · Score: 1

      Beyond that, it seems these silos never get sold! I see the same ones over and over again. (I especially like the one in the national park in New York, complete with runway...) I guess not enough geeks win the lottery. (Knowing the odds, I guess geeks just don't play the lottery...)

      Cold thread, no mods... Oh well!

  10. Could be a cool hosting facility! by IainMH · · Score: 4, Interesting


    In the UK The Bunker is an old nuclear shelter turned into a secure webhosting facility.

    The guy who owns it wrote 'Stay Another Day' performed by East 17 and was a UK Christmas #1.

    Fact.

    No. This isn't about football. ;-)

    1. Re:Could be a cool hosting facility! by IainMH · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On and I forgot.

      They love open source.

      So they could be reading! *waves*

    2. Re:Could be a cool hosting facility! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the UK The Bunker is an old nuclear shelter turned into a secure webhosting facility.

      I find it strange how they list DHL as a case study. I work for DHL in the UK and they don't use any of the OS's the bunker support. DHL use HP-UX for everything. Only a few minor systems use linux. Nothing thats worth that degree of protection anyway.

      http://www.thebunker.net/work-casestudies.htm

    3. Re:Could be a cool hosting facility! by IainMH · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You are joking right?

      Even if they don't give any money directly or code themselves, they are creating jobs for people with skills in open source software.

    4. Re:Could be a cool hosting facility! by janbjurstrom · · Score: 2, Informative

      Troll, at least read before posting. On page ONE of the Bunker site, describing their technical team:

      This team is led by Ben Laurie, our technical director and author of the Apache-SSL web server. He is a founding director and head of security of the Apache Software Foundation, whose Apache webserver powers over 60% of the world's websites. He is also a core member of the OpenSSL Project (the world's most widely used cryptographic library), and numerous other internet projects. (emphasis mine)

      Do check up on Ben Laurie. What kind of standards do you have?? Think RMS is a leech too? Sheesh.

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    5. Re:Could be a cool hosting facility! by vevva · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the Anonymous Coward had taken the trouble to actually read the website they would have discovered that the owners of the bunker were also some of the leads in developing Apache-SSL. If that doesn't count as giving something back to the community I don't know what does.

    6. Re:Could be a cool hosting facility! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RMS is definitely a leech.

      Has he ever worked a day in his life, outside of hacking?

      He lived for ages in his office at MIT.

      He lives now primarily from the funds from an endowment.

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  12. Here's a couple of photo's.... by thrill12 · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... of a tour inside a similar missile silo, by underground explorers. Maybe it's the same, I didn't check that. But at least it gives you an impression of what is under there.

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    1. Re:Here's a couple of photo's.... by cybermace5 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know if that's really a fair representation except to understand the scale of some of the areas. Remember, the auction here says there is "NO WATER SEEPAGE!" meaning that this silo is probably kept up much better, and doesn't have the dangerous flooding.

      $4,000,000 is awfully expensive though. The ideal use for one of these things is for a group of people to pitch in and share the space; to limit the investment to $100,000 each, you'd have to share it with 40 buyers. It would probably work OK, but 10 buyers/families would be better in my opinion.

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    2. Re:Here's a couple of photo's.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Remember, the auction here says there is "NO WATER SEEPAGE!" meaning that this silo is probably kept up much better, and doesn't have the dangerous flooding.

      Yes. This site (each contain multiple silos) is clearly different for the partially-flooded site.

      But the lack of flooding is probably because groundwater is simply lower in this area. The site has still been abandoned for over 40 years, so I wouldn't expect it to be in good condition unless the guy made significant improvements.

      Looking at the tour pages for the partially-flooded site gives some idea for the problems can be expected: No lights, no active ventilation, asbestos contamination, possible chemical contamination, lots of rust, and debris left over from the site's original use. And if trespassers have been in the area, there may also be graffiti and other vandalism, and possibly garbage.

      It would be neat to fix this place up, but due to its size it would cost a LOT of money.

    3. Re:Here's a couple of photo's.... by EvanED · · Score: 1

      He's selling it with a 10x markup, so it's very possible he did put in a lot of money to fix it up.

    4. Re:Here's a couple of photo's.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did anyone else notice the pages on the linked site read like a text based game? Your start out on the surface and only choice you have is to go down... then you are going through some halls with no other choices than to proceed. but then you run into a room with like 4 different rooms going off of it and you have a choice of which room you want to go into first... I don't know, I thought it was funny as hell when I realized I was browsing like a text based game. "Um, use the fire to kill the bat. What? you can't use fire? ok. Um... Throw rocks at bat. much better"

    5. Re:Here's a couple of photo's.... by boa13 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I noticed (and enjoyed) that. Man, I would have loved being there! I've done my share of WW2 bunkers exploring in France, but they were nowhere near this scale. Much less dangerous too, this one is quite extreme.

    6. Re:Here's a couple of photo's.... by Sanksa+Wott · · Score: 1

      These places dont exactly look to be "visitor-friendly", and especially not a place that I would want to spend an extended period of time; aka "live".

      from the above site:

      -There is also TONS of asbestos pipe insulation stacked in every available corner of the complex...

      -there are NO signs of life anywhere in the whole complex; not even a rat or a spider. This may mean that it's just pretty well sealed, or it may mean something worse, that something is preventing things from living down there...

    7. Re:Here's a couple of photo's.... by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


      This reminds me of the silos up in the Chico, California, area. Going to Chico State in the late 80s we used to party down in that complex. The silo doors were removed, and the whole complex was gradually filling up with rainwater. We could go down about 4 levels (it was under 2 inches of water) but the 5th level supposedly had an access tube which ran some 20 miles or so out to Oroville to another similar complex (never personally verified).

  13. Not New. by jabberjaw · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thisis not exactly new. Atlas and Titan silos have been up for auction/sale for many years.

  14. Re:Here's the auction link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lameass Karma whore...the link is in the original article...

  15. he'll make nice profit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    if someone actually buys that place for $4M, the newspaper article suggests that he paid $300k originally, granted he has made some improvements to the place but are those changes really worth $3,7M

    1. Re:he'll make nice profit by idlemind · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter what the original price was. Lets say he paid $1 for it. Would that imply it is only worth $1? He could of just gotten a really good deal on the property. It happens quite often that people purchase something, do nothing to it, then sell it for more.

  16. Looks like a fake by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful
    His other visible eBay transactions were a photo flash, a hammer drill, and a camera case, all of which he bought, not sold.
    There are no pictures of the land except a rather fuzzy-looking diagram. Were I interested in something costing almost $4M, I'd expect to see pictures. Available information leads me to believe that this is a fake or prank, possibly using a hijacked account.

    -bosozoku

    1. Re:Looks like a fake by fafaforza · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The parent should have been modded Funny!

      C'mon, who buys such property based on pictures on an online auction site? If you were at all serious, you'd call the number listed and arrange for a tour. Pictures are only useful for curious web users as something to gawk at as most of us average citizens are already priced out of this offering.

    2. Re:Looks like a fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the seller is legit, I would still imagine he's putting the sale on eBay to get public attention. I'd wager he's not the only broker for the property.

  17. Not real bright, is he... by Fished · · Score: 3, Funny
    Smart Biddder
    Tell no one. Trust no one. Let no one bid this thing up! Pray to the Higher Power of Your Choice that Slashdot doesn't find out.
    Duuuuuumb Bidder
    Wow, this is really cool! I'm going to submit it to slashdot so everybody else can have a chance to bid!
    --
    "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
    1. Re:Not real bright, is he... by Bryant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except that it's not actually an auction. I made the same mistake (hey, it's EBay), but there's no place to enter a bid and if you look down at the bottom it says:

      "This listing is an advertisement. There is no bidding! If you are interested in this property, you may contact the seller/agent to request additional information."

      Which is probably smart. If it were an auction, it'd have eleventy-million fake bids by now.

      It also tends to indicate that this is a real property. If it was just someone goofing around, it'd be an auction. That's not strong evidence, but it's certainly an indication.

    2. Re:Not real bright, is he... by Fallen_Knight · · Score: 1

      Smart Seller: Hey Lets get this posted on slashdot's front page so someone will actualyl buy this at this price!!

    3. Re:Not real bright, is he... by DuranDuran · · Score: 1
      Bitter Bidder



      That guy's going to win it instead of me! Time to submit this to Slashdot...

      --
      "You can justify anything by putting it in quotes, adding a famous name and making it a sig" - Albert Einstein
  18. Flash back to 1999 by cgenman · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Most people think he's insane," said his wife, Lynette, 43, who admits to some initial dubiousness on hearing some of her husband's schemes. "But he has a way of seeing the potential. Things are obvious to him the rest of us don't see."

    indeed.

  19. Re:Host Your Own Big Brother TV show. by ElizabethP · · Score: 1

    Alas. I suppose I will have to continue formulating my plans for the domination of the world's sexiest geeks from my livingroom. That's not nearly as exciting owning my own potentially operational missile complex.

  20. He also sold... by MarkMcLeod · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did anyone look at the auctions he's had before?

    Jack Hammer of some sort... $360
    Camera Flash... $12.50
    Camera Bag.. $14.95

    "Oh..Yah..I have a giant nuclear testing facility too...Four Million Dollars..."

    1. Re:He also sold... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Jack Hammer of some sort... $360

      Well now you know how he found it.

    2. Re:He also sold... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually the guy probably missed out on those lucrative defence contracts where the Government was paying $30,000 for hammers and toilet seats.

      Now that the bubble has burst he is just trying to catch up with the surplus properties.

    3. Re:He also sold... by drooling-dog · · Score: 1

      Could be he doesn't own it at all, but is looking for a finders fee when he refers potential buyers to whomever does...

    4. Re:He also sold... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      No he didn't. All the other items on his history were bought, not sold.

    5. Re:He also sold... by utahjazz · · Score: 1

      Jack Hammer

      Ok, that's my new "If I were a porn star" name.

  21. Other items. by IainMH · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's always so funny to see what else these people buy/sell. ;-)

    Genuine Canon Camera Everready Case Denim T50

    Vivitar 550 FD C/R, Flash w/ Manual

    NEW ELECTRIC DEMO HAMMER / CONCRETE BREAKER

    I was expecting cooler stuff.

    1. Re:Other items. by MarkMcLeod · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the missle that may have occupied the silo...Forget temporary blindess from flashing someone with my Vivitar 550..

    2. Re:Other items. by thehomeland · · Score: 1

      Somewhat off-topic, but I always make a Self-Note "response to feedback" to the ones I receive and include the item's title so even though the page expires later I can (or others, too) still see what I bought/sold in past auctions..

  22. Missile Complex by FrostedWheat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Missile Complex?

    This wouldn't be in Central Montana by any chance? I hear Dr. Zefram Cochrane's been looking to buy one in that area.

    1. Re:Missile Complex by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

      No ... he will be looking to buy one in that area. We have some Eugenics wars to finish up first.

      --
      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
    2. Re:Missile Complex by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      We have some Eugenics wars to finish up first.

      You mean they've started already? Nobody informs me of anything anymore!

    3. Re:Missile Complex by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Yes, and the massive musculature and huge frontal lobes I've acquired make me want to get out there and take over the civilized world.

      -- Khan.

      --
      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
    4. Re:Missile Complex by glass_window · · Score: 1

      Maybe he's the one who will win the auction

  23. Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by garick · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder, whether our Russian militaries can buy the complex to keep missiles closer to their targets? :)

    1. Re:Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello, am I speaking to ganck? Good, look it's 1980 calling, just wondered when you thought you might come home.

    2. Re:Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by Spellbinder · · Score: 1

      nahh .. but they could sell them some missiles to equip this silo
      i just wait for a law that grants US coporations the right to have their own nuclear weapons in order to protect their business
      imagine SCO blackmailing IBM with nukes to stop using their IP

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    3. Re:Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not SCO... stop giving those people new ideas, it's the last thing we need.

    4. Re:Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by mpe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i just wait for a law that grants US coporations the right to have their own nuclear weapons in order to protect their business imagine SCO blackmailing IBM with nukes to stop using their IP

      Except that IBM would probably have so many nukes that SCO would never have bothered them in the first place.

    5. Re:Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by badmammajamma · · Score: 0, Troll

      The cold war is over dude. Is anyone still actually worried about the russians? It wouldn't surprise me if Bin Ladin bought the property and built a nuke in our own backyard. Shit, I'd give him props if he pulled that off. We're just stupid enough to let him get away with it.

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      Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. -- H. L. Mencken
    6. Re:Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      No, but they could get some cheap land right next door in Cuba. I'm sure nobody would mind.

      -B

    7. Re:Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Jerry Pournelle (who else?) actually wrote a story along these lines. Naturally, he rather liked to idea...

  24. In New York State by crem_d_genes · · Score: 2, Informative

    There has been a silo house for sale for awhile in the Adirondack Mountains, and in Long Island, there has been talk of converting a silo location into a golf course.

    1. Re:In New York State by rampant+mac · · Score: 1
      "...and in Long Island, there has been talk of converting a silo location into a golf course."

      "Oh man, bad lie on that last shot. Guess I'll have to bank it off the MinuteMan."

      --
      I like big butts and I cannot lie.
  25. Well, it proves that... by Callik · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can buy anything on E-Bay

    1. Re:Well, it proves that... by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      well except for guns.

  26. Terms He Didn't Disclose... by vudufixit · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. No shipping. Local pickup only. 2. To avoid stiff fees, PayPal will not be accepted. 3. Checks will be given ten days to clear. 4. Non-paying bidders without ABM defenses will be given NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.

  27. Not good for a home by pieterh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Living underground has many practical advantages. All-year insulation from heat and cold, no neighbours, no leaking roofs, infinite space for expansion if you care to dig.

    But... we're descended from tree-hugging primates, not moles, and living underground is a sure way to go crazy. A home needs sunlight, a view, and fundamentally, people within easy reach.

    I'd rather live in a shoddy 1-room appartment than in a hundred room bunker.

    1. Re:Not good for a home by Discopete · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But picture turning the top floor of the launch silo into a solarium. Remove the blast door and replace it with glass (it would probably have to be bulletproof to withstand the downward force from the snow in the winter). A little bit of remodeling and you have a perfect place to lie back and watch the sky).

      If it's far enough away from civilization, you could also use the solarium for a decent telescope.

    2. Re:Not good for a home by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      I dunno. If we ever do get into a real nuclear exchange with our newfound "friends" you may wish you had that bunker. And a lot depends upon personality: the people that spend months or years underwater in a nuclear submarine probably would find that missile complex to be refreshingly open and expansive. As for me, I'm a bit claustrophobic so I'll stick to the apartment. I just hope that when the big one finally drops I'm inside the radius of total destruction so I'll go up in the first flash.

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      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
    3. Re:Not good for a home by Rorschach1 · · Score: 1

      No leaking roof, but most of these silos fill up with ground water.

      Plus you've got asbestos everywhere, contaminated propelant and diesel tanks... it'd be fun, but above all a giant money pit.

    4. Re:Not good for a home by Devar · · Score: 3, Informative

      Keep the blast door, but built the glass dome over it. That way if you need the blast door, just close it. Assuming the door is still operational.

      That would be one hell of a way to scare guests. The blast doors start closing. You say they only do that if there's an incoming attack. Guest panics. Hilarity ensues! Although it would probably only work with blondes. But if you have 3.5 mil lying about, you'd probably have many of them about too.

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    5. Re:Not good for a home by glitch23 · · Score: 1

      But... we're descended from tree-hugging primates

      Maybe you are but I'm not. Just b/c some DNA is shared among animals does not mean they were once the same species. Incorrect deduction but great scientists leads to that incorrect theory.

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    6. Re:Not good for a home by Inspector+Lopez · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remove the blast door and replace it with glass (it would probably have to be bulletproof to withstand the downward force from the snow in the winter).

      Growing up Eastern Washington, I can say that you probably would need bulletproof glass, but not for the snow (it doesn't snow much at all at this missile site). Rather, you'd need bulletproof glass to keep the bullets out.

      There's an astronomical observatory about an hour's drive from this silo. It has heavy steel shutters on the windows. The shutters are not there to keep the stray light away from the telescope --- but rather to keep the bullets out.

      Eastern Washington has many charms, but it also has a robust population of people with guns. A noticable minority of these folks are remarkably generous in their application of these weapons.

    7. Re:Not good for a home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just b/c some DNA is shared among animals does not mean they were once the same species

      It means they had a common ancestor, and it is quite straight-forward these days to predict how long ago that common ancestor lived, and by the shared DNA, how it lived.

      So yes, you are descended from tree-hugging primates as are all humans, apes, and monkeys. This is why you have an opposable thumb and 3D color vision, for one thing.

      Greetz
      MonkeyBoy

    8. Re:Not good for a home by raodin · · Score: 1

      It doesn't snow *that* much in Central Washington.

    9. Re:Not good for a home by evilviper · · Score: 1
      But... we're descended from tree-hugging primates, not moles, and living underground is a sure way to go crazy. A home needs sunlight, a view, and fundamentally, people within easy reach.

      Yeah, you can tell how happy everyone in New York is... Having all that light, view, and plenty of people nearby.

      Given the choice between the two, I'd go for the silo. Lack of sunlight is really the only issue for me.
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  28. Cheney by drooling-dog · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm surprised that Dick Cheney hasn't bought one of these. It probably cost at least that much to build his bunker at the Naval Observatory...

    1. Re:Cheney by The+Limp+Devil · · Score: 1

      How do you know he hasn't? There are links to reaaltors selling these things in this thread.

    2. Re:Cheney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dick Cheney does not need a missile silo since he is constantly moving around thr country and hiding in undisclosed locations during time of war...

      "Mommy, Mommy, there's a monster under my bed."

      "No dear, it's just Dick Cheney hiding from the terrorists in case they attempt to decapitate the US Government."

      "Oh..."

      "Good night dear..."

    3. Re:Cheney by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      And who says he doesn't?

    4. Re:Cheney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't you heard? Cheney's a cyborg anyway. He just plugs himself in and regenerates if he's damaged.

      That notwithstanding, I'm sure everyone involved in the defense industry either has their own bunkers are a reservation at one of the high-level government ones.

    5. Re:Cheney by dave420 · · Score: 1

      He'd probably use it to keep his gay kids in, so he doesn't have to see to see the look on their faces when he denounces homosexuality again and again and again...

  29. sound studio! by plams · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've always looked for the perfect place to build an audio production studio. It would need to be stylish.. and well isolated.. I guess you could play with plutonium-powered speakers in this place, without getting complaints from your neighbours.

    1. Re:sound studio! by boa13 · · Score: 1

      It would be cool, but there might be a problem: echo.

  30. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  31. Need a Backup/Restore Professional? by Zeromous · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would love to work in a data store facility such as this! Just the kitsch value alone would get me to move across the country to do so.

    If anyone wants to turn this into a secure data warehouse, a needs a few good men- gimme a shout!!! :D

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    1. Re:Need a Backup/Restore Professional? by Technonotice_Dom · · Score: 1

      Well you'd be talking mission critical if you needed a bunker for it...

      yet your homepage isn't even up

    2. Re:Need a Backup/Restore Professional? by Zeromous · · Score: 1

      Hmm troll? I suppose we spend a lot of effort looking around slashdot for ways to diss people. :D FYI, my homepage is no longer active, and I'm far too busy monitoring *real* mission critical servers to care about my own personal website. Something about being on pager 24/7 or in front of a computer for most of my life seems to have turned me off some of my personal digital endeavors. Cheers DOM.

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    3. Re:Need a Backup/Restore Professional? by Technonotice_Dom · · Score: 1

      Hehe... not trying to troll :)

      I know exactly what you mean - I gave in with my personal site just to keep up with the "important" ones... and I know right now I've got some software to upgrade across a number of servers to start with now!

      All fun!

  32. Top 5 Reasons for buying ba Missile Complex by amigoro · · Score: 2, Funny

    5. Your basement will be the biggest in town 4. You could have your own nuclear reactor 3. You can hide from militant feminists 2. The best place to be when millennium bug II (somewhere around 2047 I guess) comes around. 1. You can dodge the special skills draft

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  33. Imagine the eBay feedback on this one... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Got my Titan Missile Complex but the tall backed leather chair did not swivel and the white cat was already dead when i got there! Avoid!!!!!!

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    Mother, do you think they'll like this sig?
    1. Re:Imagine the eBay feedback on this one... by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      And where's the big orange wheel and water bottle?

    2. Re:Imagine the eBay feedback on this one... by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      Hey, when you have a good complex who cares about feedback? Your voices either approve or disapprove, no matter what they tell you to say on eBay.

  34. Re:Host Your Own Big Brother TV show. by fafaforza · · Score: 2, Funny

    So it doesn't matter if you own the place or if you are a visitor or what, you are on cameras 24/7, just in case you tried something illegal.

    So if a couple moves in, what does that mean, no anal sex?

  35. I'd be scared by scragz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just think of all the Chinese/Russian missiles still pointed at your bedroom.

    1. Re:I'd be scared by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Not the Chinese (yet) but there is something rather painfully ironic about newfound "allies" like the United States and Russia that still have their missile systems set to kill each other. My own opinion on the matter is that if there ever is a major exchange between the nuclear elite it will be Russia and China: we're less of a long-term threat to either of them now than they are to each other. China gaining nuclear superpower status at some point will certainly scare the Hell out of Russia. Given China's significant investment in their space program (and all that signifies), as well as the apparent theft of weapons data from the U.S., I expect they will eventually have some missile silos of their own if they don't already. Of course ... they just makes them a target. Probably this wouldn't be the best time to decommission all of our nukes.

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      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
    2. Re:I'd be scared by quetzalc0atl · · Score: 1

      have you been living under a rock? its not like china is going to come right out and say it, but analysts have been saying for the last few years that they have ICBMs pointed at us (around 12-15) with nukes.

      how do you think they've been able to go into space for all these years?

      and they didn't steal our secrets...clinton sold them!

    3. Re:I'd be scared by nathanm · · Score: 1
      Not the Chinese (yet)...

      China gaining nuclear superpower status at some point will certainly scare the Hell out of Russia. Given China's significant investment in their space program (and all that signifies), as well as the apparent theft of weapons data from the U.S., I expect they will eventually have some missile silos of their own if they don't already.
      China has been a nuclear superpower since the early 1970s. They just don't have nearly as many weapons or warheads as the US or Russia.
    4. Re:I'd be scared by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      My own opinion on the matter is that if there ever is a major exchange between the nuclear elite it will be Russia and China:

      You have *got* to be kidding. India and Pakistan? Israel and the first Islamic country that manages to acquire nukes?

    5. Re:I'd be scared by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Yes, and you'll note that I said "major" exchange. And how would you consider any Middle Eastern country to be among the nuclear elite?

      You seem to have forgotten the magnitude of the nuclear forces still controlled by the United States and Russia. One or two or a dozen does not count as a major exchange. Russia has thousands. We have thousands. China will eventually build thousands. That's what I mean. The kind of conflict that the Cold War and Mutual Assured Destruction were intended to prevent, and that would have likely ended civilization. Face it: China is giving every indication of wanting to be a real player in both weapons and space technology, and from Russia's standpoint they'll be a greater threat than we ever were.

      By the logic I see in this thread North Korea would count as a superpower. It isn't, not by a long shot ... a superpower is largely defined by the amount of sheer destructive potential at its disposal. At this point everyone else is still small fry in thermonuclear terms compared to the big boys. Granted they would all like to buy into the big game, but as of right now, none of them would try to take on Russia (even now, after the collapse of the Union, it still controls enough nukes to thoroughly eliminate anyone that fires anything untoward in its direction) much less the United States. That may change, and my bet is on China for being the first to acquire enough bombs and missiles to qualify as a true Superpower. Life will get more complicated at that point.

      This link I just found

      http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm?documentid =179&programID=32&from_page=../friendlyversion/pri ntversion.cfm

      gives a pretty good indication of relative superpower status. I don't know how accurate these numbers actually are (most countries are justifiably a bit secretive about their arsenals), but at least you get a better feeling for who is a "superpower" and who are just wannabes. There is a difference between Iran and Israel wiping out each others' capitol cities, and a massive launch involving thousands of warheads. I'd like to believe that the decades of the Cold War taught us something, but ... we still have our nukes. The Russians still have their nukes. Lots of other countries want to have more nukes. The Cold War may be over but the world is no safer than it was before.

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    6. Re:I'd be scared by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Oops, sorry, I meant this one: CDI The summary table at the top pretty much says it all. Granted it's from last year, but I doubt that anyone has manufactured 10,000 thermonuclear devices since then. The heavy lifters in this area are still the U.S. and Russia.

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    7. Re:I'd be scared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought Pakistan was islamic...

  36. Re:Host Your Own Big Brother TV show. by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

    A shovel and a fire ax will fix that in a hurry. What, it's wireless? Can I borrow your tinfoil beanie for a moment?

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  37. Also... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just to hazard a guess, but I don't think the vast maority of /.ers have $4mil lying around in pocket change.

  38. Ug by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

    I've seen this guy before he's done several fake auctions of really weird stuff, like a Nuclear Reactor and other stuff, and then he takes it down near the end of the bid.... it's sad he's getting the glory on slashdot....

  39. Far, far away from it all by Trailwalker · · Score: 1

    A nice isolated semi-desert sort of place. Go there is you really want to escape everything.

    Local History

  40. Re:Host Your Own Big Brother TV show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Uh, no. While that might be the procedure now, these facilities were decomissioned in the 60's. Any cameras made with 60's state of the art technology would not be hidden......what with the huge 50 lb. case and all.

  41. Another visitor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stay a while! Staaaaaay forevaah!

    1. Re:Another visitor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhhh....hell no! You did NOT just go there. this is not the 80's anymore, it's the new millenium.

      I'm Rick James, bitch!

  42. Re:Dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Page did not load correctly, I had to hit ALT-F4 to get it to work

  43. I toured I live Atlas 2 missile silo by intertwingled · · Score: 1

    I toured a live Atlas 2 missile silo near Florence, Arizona back in the 1970's when I was in ROTC. Even back then, the equipment was showing signs of disrepair. There were hydraulic leaks in the missile bay and when the captain pressed the light test button on one of the panels, only about 80% of the lights lit up. Still, it was pretty awesome to be at the bottom of the silo's missile bay, with the twin cones of an Atlas 2 about 4 feet away from me. I forget what fuel/oxidizer combination was used in the Atlas 2 missiles but I do remember they were very nasty so I was glad when the tour was completed

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  44. Who wants to live underground? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't you guys ever see the film Resident Evil??

    1. Re:Who wants to live underground? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the day I saw it, I decided to build something like The Hive and live in it.

  45. Errm, come to think of it, that may have been... by intertwingled · · Score: 1

    Errm, come to think of it, that may have been a Titan 2 missile silo. =) It was a loooong time ago.

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  46. sad fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i saw the guy who did this auction on irc and he was pissing about, look at the cost for fuck sake, he was joking and stuck it in the topic etc, that was ages ago, i can't believe people are still falling for it, and i can't believe /. editors are that stupid as to want to litter /. with this crap.

  47. This should go to Zephran Cochran by tota · · Score: 1

    For an alternative First Contact site.

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  48. Purchase a missile complex by Bega · · Score: 1

    Move in with your family, and bring the kids. There's plenty of play room for everyone. Just remember not to trip and fall into the exhaust bay!

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  49. Perfect... by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

    The purchase of my new underground lair would not be complete without This Book

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  50. Real Pics... by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a "tour" of a missile complex for those yearning for a bit more than a small sketch on a web page...

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    I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
    1. Re:Real Pics... by LinuxHam · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was skimming for this kind of post, because I wanted to see if anyone posted this. And yours is as good as any post to tag along with.

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    2. Re:Real Pics... by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 1

      That's a really neat site! Thanx for the link, I hadn't seen that one.

      Since you seem to be in to the whole Urban Exploration thing, Here's another great site., if you didn't already know.

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      I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
  51. Moderators, you've been had by Imperator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't get it. Why would the government spend lots of money monitoring property it has sold to private citizens, especially when said property (stripped of the nuclear missile, obviously) is not particularly useful for causing harm? Do you have some evidence to back up your claim or is it just a paranoid conspiracy theory?

    Or are you just making stuff up to gain karma? A look at your journal reveals the answer, and it's one that should make your moderators ashamed:

    This account was created for a challenge purpose. [...] Get Excellent karma using ONLY insightless/wrong/misleading/clueless comments. Most of ideas presented will be flawed, informations made up and so on. Sometimes I may post true info if it's my wild guess, but I will be posting it as "informed/confirmed info" for that purpose.

    Oh, and what are you planning to do afterwards? Why, flamebait your karma away. Moderators, please nip this plan in the bud by making sure that Archangle's karma stays low. And an advice to those with aspirations to cause mischief: don't post about them in your journal.

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  52. Winery? by Avian+visitor · · Score: 1

    World Class Winery - Plant Vineyard above, Store Vintage below

    Of all the cool things one can do with a nuclear missile launch site he thinks of making a wine cellar out of it? I can't believe my eyes!

    Seriously... I wouldn't want to live there. What about contamination? Radon build-up can always pose a problem in underground places, especially if they were at one time used to store nuclear material.

    Later titan missiles also used hypergolic fuel, which means that not so long ago a large quantity of toxic chemicals was stored in that bunker.

    A turist attraction perhaps, but certainly not a healthy peaceful retreat...

  53. housed nukes by jdkane · · Score: 1

    Would it be worth anybody's time to check the radiation levels inside some of these silos before buying? You never know.

  54. Watch Out! troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damned fuckin TROLL!!!

    1. Re:Watch Out! troll! by Imperator · · Score: 1

      Damnit, people shouldn't be allowed to delete journal entries any more than they're allowed to delete comments.

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  55. Perhaps this is too cliche, but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody set us up the bomb!
    All your base....

  56. Just a few thoughts by ElGanzoLoco · · Score: 1

    This complex housed nuclear missiles, if I understand correctly. So when visiting, be sure to pack a Geiger counter, who knows?

    Seems way too big for a house (for that matter, can anybody provide the surface in square meters?), but that would be one kickass disco / club / whatever.

    Heh, I'm interested! Gimme a week to collect 4 million dollars and I'm in!
    ckeck (the original submitter) says he's going to visit it soon: please, followup and post photos!!!

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  57. drug lab - biggest lsd lab busted by cheekyboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A few months ago 2 guys were busted for being the major suppliers in all of usa of LSD, they were responsible for like 30% of all sales.

    Their whole lab as in a disused silo facility. Totally sealed, no way in.

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    1. Re:drug lab - biggest lsd lab busted by jjshoe · · Score: 2, Funny

      apparently there was a way in ;)

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  58. Too Pricy by WillRobinson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A school friend of mine got his silo in kansas for 100$ a month lease, for 100 years from a farmer in kansas. With the only restriction of allowing the farmer room to park his tractor inside in the winter.

    The problem with these, is you do have to heat them, and keep the humidity down. With a constant wall temp, you better be able to afford a big humidifier, or just build a house inside. My friend just build his own walls inside, cleaned it up etc.

    Its so quiet and dark in the night, you wouldnt even hear a tornado if it went overhead right on top of you.

    1. Re:Too Pricy by Happy+Cramper · · Score: 1

      I too, was looking for property in Kansas a few years ago. A silo would be my dream home. As we were driving up to one of the properties, there was a horrible stench and we started getting orange mud on our car. We passed some people frantically working with a tractor beside the road. Turns out, these MinuteMan II silos have a network of chemical lines running between them, and occaisionally a tractor cuts one open by mistake. The realestate person was very nervous and not forthcoming with details. I'm sure it was quite toxic dispite her reassurances. She was a-sweatin'. Anyway, shattered my dreams. I have a friend who used to inspect the MinuteMan II silos. The silo featured in this article housed a different type of rockets.

    2. Re:Too Pricy by WillRobinson · · Score: 1

      Unless they were very close, (most werent) I could not see why they would have those lines. I know in this silo which is about 10 miles from Wolf Creek power station, that almost all the stainless tanks were salvaged, and the piping.

      There was one tank that was just to big and deep for them to pull out. It would have made a great water storage tank. If my memory serves me, it was about 24' diameter, and about 75' down, with walking platforms (3) and ladders, which were all stainless.

      There are many silo in Kansas, most were sold back to the farmers who owned the surounding land.

      It was not till the dotbomb era, that nerds looked at them. It would take alot of time, and money to make one a real home.

  59. Man, he should have waited until November. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If Bush wins or steals the election again, this guy could have gotten SO much more money.

  60. Re:asbestos and other hazmat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would guess asbestos and other hazmat would be
    more likely. Missile liners were
    one of the few legal uses of asbestos
    last i checked. Also missile
    propellant either solid or liquid can
    be pretty nasty( i think titans were liquid).
    I'd buy it but I'd want to see what
    cleanup efforts had been performed.

  61. All I need now is an 80 foot robot. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    Or a super hero team.

    And then I can get all of the problems on this idiot planet straightened out once and for all!

    Maybe after I can get a good night's sleep.


    -FL --"Wonder Twin Powers, . . !"

    1. Re:All I need now is an 80 foot robot. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All *I* need is $50K to complete my robot. My GIRL robot. This is going to be the best prom night ever!

  62. radiation paranoia by thelizman · · Score: 2, Informative

    The nuclear material was inside lead-lined caskets in the warheads at the top of the missiles inside the concrete silos which are hundreds of feet from the power and control domes. Radiation risk is right around 0.0%. Even then, risk factors are based on populations, and our modern paranoia over radiation is the result of anti-nuke activist scare tactics. Some people are completely unaffected by low-levels of radiation, others are simply genetically predisposed to develop cancers and radiation triggers it. Madame Curie probably has more exposure to radiation than any other person in history. Sure she died of cancer...in her 80's, after nearly five decades of handling radioactive isotopes. Women who suffered cancer as a result of radium paint used on the clocks they built ingested radium when they licked their brushes, and many of them didn't develop cancer for years. Nobody is ever believed to have developed cancer or illness as a result of secondary exposure to radiation. (And before anyone brings up chernobyl, that's not secondary exposure: the reactor explosion seeded the entire area with very small very hot particles of nuclear fuel and coolant.)

    1. Re:radiation paranoia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever heard of "atmospheric testing". Where the fuck do you think all those "hot particles" went, retard. You ever wonder why the cancer rates are so much higher today than 50 years ago? Where was all the lung cancer from smoking prior to the 40's, everyone smoked, unfiltered smokes, almost no lung cancer. Then magically cancers start to rise after years of atmospheric testing, but no, its all anti-nuke paranoia. From your sig I am guessing you are a horribly mutated, nuclear freak, who uses a womans first name despite having a cruely mis-formed male member.

  63. Titan missile museum by sunderland56 · · Score: 0

    In Arizona, there is the Titan Missile Museum. Since the Titan was nuclear-capable, and in the cold war era, they were very closely tracked. The museum claims to be the ONLY surviving launch facility; they even have a video presentation showing how they demolished the others, and (if I recall correctly) a map of all other locations. One of the conditions placed on keeping this location and not demolishing it was to permenantly wedge the silo door half open - in a position that they could be clearly seen from a spy satellite, but the missile could not be launched.

    So, either this is a fake - or you'll need to send the museum a letter after you move in.

  64. A day camp by Pedrito · · Score: 1

    That's his idea? To create a day camp? "Hey, how was camp?" "Oh, a bit cold. We were 100 feet underground all summer." Boy, that sounds like fun.

    I think it should be use for playing games. "Would you like to play a game? How about Thermonuclear War!" Now that sounds like fun.

    1. Re:A day camp by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Mmm, LAN party day camp.

      Just what modern kids need; less exercise and sunlight. It causes cancer, after all (unlike any left-over radioactivity).

      You *did* buy the combo fire / CO / giger counter detection system, right? :)

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    2. Re:A day camp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry jacob, that should have been Global Thermonuclear War!

      - Prof Falken

  65. Best quote from the ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "Do Not Trespass Or Disturb Existing Tenants"

    Er, let's all take that to heart, m'kay?

    (original in all-cap shouting, I think they really really mean it)

  66. Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I can finally move out of my parent's basement, and into - oh, never mind.

  67. We'd want jobs to go overseas then! by tjstork · · Score: 1


    If we make it legal for corporations to have nuclear weapons, we would easily want jobs to go overseas than!

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    1. Re:We'd want jobs to go overseas then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pretty much the opposite.

      If US companies have nukes, I'd hate to be an employee of a competing company anywhere else.

      kaboom.

  68. Real missile bases for sale by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative
    While the eBay ad seems fake, there's a realtor who specializes in missile bases. They're not even that expensive, compared to houses in Silicon Valley. Prices range from $133K ("Underground structures flooded") to a 210-acre Titan-F site for $1.45M.

    Some have already been converted to housing ("Spacious marble bath complex, with high ceilings, heavy beams and red cedar 1100 gallon tiled hot tub"). All need some work. Often quite a bit of work.

    They're all in the middle of nowhere.

    1. Re:Real missile bases for sale by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      There's a Nike Park in Naperville, IL. with a ball field and an office building. I used to work in that building which had a Nike missle bunker as its basement. The plan was to convert the space into a health club but thus far the owners haven't done anything with it. It was very cool to see, the missle lay horizontally and would be raised to fire through overhead doors at the Soviet bombers as they flew to Chicago. Anyway many such sites are now privately owned, they're just alot of very thick reinforced concrete and thick steel doors. They are gutted of interesting gear before being turned over to civilians, obviously.

  69. YHBT HAND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, you know it.

  70. complete the lifestyle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with this star wars hummer

  71. Nike base in .... by sittingbull · · Score: 3, Funny

    There were several Nike missile bases in MD one of which I did some exploration in. Now a developer has build and entire subdivision over it and I doubt that the new home-owners know about what lies beneath their gated community.

    If you are going to use one of these for a house it is very expensive to remove the lead paint and asbestos insulation on any pipes/walls... but in the 50's men ate lead and smoked asbestos....

    1. Re:Nike base in .... by yppiz · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Nike missile bases are very different than this. There's one in Marin County that's restored and open to the public: SF-88.

      The most extensive Nike bases I've seen: SF-88 and one of its sister sites in the Presidio of SF, had an above-ground radome or two, an above-ground launching area, and a small below-ground bunker - more of a garage, really - for storing the Nike missiles. The bunkers were not hardened; their purpose was to protect the surrounding area if one of the missiles exploded in storage.

      --Pat / zippy@cs.brandeis.edu

  72. And the best part is... by SensitiveMale · · Score: 1

    now you have plenty of room to grow pot and shrooms underground without getting caught.

  73. Way ahead of ya by SamSim · · Score: 2, Informative

    Real Life Comics' Tony bought one of these beauties ages ago. You can buy them here for around $2,500,000, and I can personally vouch for VillainSupply's extremely consistent customer support. (None at all, ever.)

  74. This guy must be smoking crack... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if he thinks he can get $3.9 million for something he bought for $300,000. Based on the article discussing his original plans for the facility as well as his recent ebay purchases, I am concluding that:

    - The $500K he collected in donations to supposedly turn the place into a camp probably paid for a new coat of paint and an extra-large can of Lysol (minus "operating expenses" such as a new Town Car, some hookers and a tractor trailer full of gin)
    - The extent of the modifications he has made to the place are probably (I say probably since although he purchased a camera flash that's perfect for illuminating dark underground spaces, he doesn't see fit to provide you with a couple fucking pictures of what you're getting for your $3.9 million) limited to some impromptu drunken demolition using the hammer/concrete breaker.

    I say screw this guy. To me it's juts wrong that that this guy took donations and is now trying to make millions.

    By the way, I'm not sure anyone else has mentioned this but:
    - He already tried to sell the site on ebay back in October of 2003 for the same cool $3.9 million
    - He had a web site until around the end of 2002 at www.camptitan.com that shilled for child labor in exchange for food and lodging

  75. So what about NEW missile silos... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If the government sells old sites, how does it position NEW missile sites? I've always assumed that the U.S. still had a land-based nuclear missile force in addition to it's submarine-borne and air-based (SAC) nuclear forces.

    Is my assumption no longer true?

  76. Go Ahead by medcalf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Serve your "no-knock" warrant now!

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  77. Dream home by torklugnutz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some links for the interested:
    A real estate agent specializing in Missile Bases
    A virtual tour made by some tresspassers.

    I was fascinated about the chance to own one of these properties. Doing some research, I found some ceveats though. First, the base had to be de-commissioned prior to 1965. After that, there were new treaties which required the complete destruction of the base after de-militarization. Second, being underground can lead to some health hazards, i.e. Radon. Third, missile bases aren't ever located in easy to reach places, and I like to be able to go to the store without a bunch of planning beforehand.

    I'd still love to own this monstrosity though. The Titan 1 sites are the most elaborate and extensive. Kind of makes me sick to think about the money spent of this thing when it was built only to be decomissioned ~5 years later.

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  78. This is real. by bishiraver · · Score: 4, Informative

    A quick search on google leads you to Missile Bases, a site that has missile silos for sale.

    There are people who like to rennovate these old Silos into homes which are earthquake-proof, nuke-proof, and pretty much everything else-proof.

  79. Yes and no... by Svartalf · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most of the silos on the 'net have been older Atlas silos. Very, very few of the Titan I silos ever got into public hands AND have no apparent water seepage into any parts of the building (Typically, the actual missle bays would fill up with water because of location- they'd sump pump it out, but with them being abandoned...).

    If it's for real, it's something somewhat special. The last one that went up was some 2-3 years ago in Colorado.

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    1. Re:Yes and no... by Marquis_of_fire · · Score: 1

      Yes, I saw this the other day. As a matter of fact this building is in Moses Lake, Washinton. About 1/4 of a mile from Big Bend Communnity College. How deep do the missile bays go anyway? The first aquifer around here is something like 60 ft deep and the lower floor of our library is flooded.
      If anyone does get a tour of this could I tag along? I could help you out being from the town and such, and I would love to write about it in the college newspaper.

  80. You won't find this at your local Century 21 by TheAxeMaster · · Score: 1

    How often do you see these two statements in a real estate ad? 3 missile silos all interconnected by 1/2 miles of tunnels. Mountain views, just 20 minutes from metropolitan area and international airport

  81. Pouring money into a hole in the round by Nick+Driver · · Score: 1

    I can't help but wonder how much money it costs to keep and maintain these structures in habitable condition.

  82. WiFi by Galileo430 · · Score: 1

    "Wall thicknesses 2 feet to 14 feet."

    So, this mean my WiFi won't work throughout the silo?

    1. Re:WiFi by edgedmurasame · · Score: 1

      Naw, just means you're going to need a LOT of CAT6/Fiber to wire the place. Say, about a MILE(or two) of it, since wifi would be pointless (unless the place has the retractable underground antenna stuff fucked up, rig it with 802.11 and have the ability to warspy from the comfort of the silo). Not to say you cant get good wifi coverage down the main halls and in the rooms, but dont put an AP in one room, and expect to have it travel many feet underground to you.

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  83. Fake as can be... Needs more thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    um uh like ... The dude selling this is uh pretty smart

    %eos whois tri-cityherald.com ???
    %eos whois nandomedia.com ???
    %eos mozilla www.mapquest.com

    All the sold items on ebay resemble an easy pattern to pick up on... and out of the last three for sale.... At the top it states .... If you are babi101 or what ever the handle it is..... It says to click here... right ....
    So that means that maybe someone was in on it with him or it had been planned for a while....? Right...

    Well I live near the area of the companies that I did the "whois" on, and everything says BOGUS...

    More thought should have been put in to this .... Or someone should have let me in on the JOKE....

    Little easy to see through , But thanks for playing ;}

  84. that would make a great meth lab by kaltkalt · · Score: 1

    or some other drug factory. oooh, a casino!

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  85. Extreme Homes by frizz · · Score: 1

    I remember seeing an episode of HGTV's "Extreme Homes" that talked about underground dwellings. One of the sites featured was a renovated missile base. Therefore, I believe this auction is legit.

  86. It is real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    its about 30 min out of spokane near a town called sprague. My wife took a tour there about 11 years a ago when she lived there.

  87. I just moved from Wa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just moved from there and want to setup a long term data backup facility any one got 3.9 million? either that or I would like to make a bording school, and no b.s. here either you kids are gonna stay where we put ya. I dont think I would have minded a bording school like this.

  88. He ain't gettin' 4 million by 1iar_parad0x · · Score: 1

    Have you ever met guys like this? The man buys a piece of land, relatively cheap. He has some really stupid ideas for it. Suckers in some church youth group to clean it during the summer. His business ideas obviously failed. Fortunately his wife is a banker.

    I doubt he gets his 4 million.

    1. Buy property
    2. Stumble onto silo
    3. Build underwater adventure, rock climbing, and recreational facility...
    4. Profit

    Somehow I don't think Sam Walton would have done things this way!

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  89. With property by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    It's not a real problem. It's all handled through title agencies, banks, and escrow agencies. You can physically verify a property exists, either by going and looking at it or by having a home inspector do it for you. You then secure financing from your bank or get the money in a liquid form (you don't usually keep $3mil in a checking account, even if you have that much). Then you place a bid on the place. If the seller accepts, you deal with escrow and transfer of title. Basically they don't get the money until the paperwork is signed, sealed and delivered to the county recorder's office. At that time the place is yours, and the escrow company cuts the money loose to the seller's account.

    1. Re:With property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and fake escrow companies are easy to create.

      rule #1, you must dictate all terms. if not, no deal.

      you dictate the escrow company and legal/realestate firm or NO DEAL.

      but lumpy is right, investigate the person fully first. I know of "smart" business men that get suckered by the nigerian emails, so a sophisticated scam will get them easily.

  90. What? by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is PROPERTY we are talking about here, as in a fixed, physical location, not an item that will be shipped to you. If someone was interested in buying, they'd call the seller up and go have a look. Not only would they have a look, they'd probably bring with them a real eastate agent and, if they liked what they saw, a home inspector later.

    It's not like you see a house lising online, like the picture, and PayPal the guy $100,000 (or $4million in this case). You locate a property you might like, go see it, check the records, get it insepcted, secure financing. THEN you make a bid, if that's accepted escrow the money, sign the paperwork, get it recorded, and then you get the property and the seller gets paid.

    I found my current house online. I browsed the local real estate listings and found a few places I though sounded interesting, my real estate agent found a few more. Some had no pictures, and none had more than a front shot and one interior shot. No matter, we priortised and then spent a Saturday driving around looking at places. Found the one I liked and decided to work on buying it. Came back one Friday with the agent and an inspector who checked the building for any problems and gave me a report. A few weeks later, all the paperwork was done and the place was mine.

    eBay feedback is a somewhat useful indication when purchasing normal small dollar items to be paid for over the Internet and shipped to you. Pictures can be important since you've bought and paid for it before you ever touch it. Feedback is irrelivant to property sales, since you or one of your agents WILL be going there to see it, and records checks will be run to make sure the seller owns it.

    1. Re:What? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      "It's not like you see a house lising online, like the picture, and PayPal the guy $100,000 (or $4million in this case)."

      It's apparent you never lived through the housing shortage in Ultima Online.

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  91. Targeted? by nten · · Score: 1

    Makes me wonder. With the state of disarray that the former soviet union is in, is it possible that ICBMs will still be targeted directly at what is now your house because of lapses in buerocracy etc.?

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  92. Baby woes by axafluff · · Score: 1

    Finally I can contain my baby and her toy projectiles behind blast locks and save myself.

  93. Also one in by wiredog · · Score: 1

    Great Falls VA, on Springvale Rd. Has a historic marker across the street. It's been turned into a county park.

  94. Imagine a beowulf cluster... by Jexx+Dragon · · Score: 1
    In this place.

    Seriously, a perfect Supercomputer centre. And secure, just get some guards, and some Half-Life/Quake players to defend the inside.

    Anyone want to loan me some mony?

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  95. Speak for yourself, Monkey Boy! ;-) by Cybrex · · Score: 1

    We may have descended from tree-dwellers, but we're hardly beholden to our arboreal heritage!

    Personally, I'd be thrilled with a subterranean existence! I have no love for the Cursed Daystar, or even being outdoors at all for that matter, and feel that I would be perfectly suited to life underground (or in a spacecraft, or on Mars, or what have you). I've been fortunate enough to be able to avoid any contact with the outdoor environment for days at a time, and have nothing but good things to say about the experience!

    Submarine crews do it all the time, presumably with little adverse effects. In fact, a cow-orker of mine used to be a submariner, and it was his experience that the only real problem was separation from family and friends. I've just done a quick survey of my immediate loved ones, and the unanimous decision was that, provided we had internet access, this would be an ideal environment for us to live in!

    Of course, your mileage may vary, and I've met people who become depressed if they're away from the sun during the day for even a short while. My whole point is that there are people out there (probably many on /.) for whom this "bunker" would be a dream house.

    Cheers!

    -Cybrex

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  96. Take a look at these possible uses! by Doppler00 · · Score: 1

    ...Original perimeter barbed-wire topped chainlink fence intact....

    Possible Uses: Ultra Secure, Ultra Private, Personal/Corporate Retreat
    World Class Winery - Plant Vineyard above, Store Vintage below
    Backup Data, or other long term storage
    Year Round Youth Camp or Boarding School
    1 silo could be a 155' Rock Climbing Wall
    1 silo could be a 100' deep SCUBA Training Pool

    Youth camp/boarding school??????? Yes, a great way to educate a kid, keep them unground for several years without seeing the sunlight.

  97. I think this could be a trap... by ShimmyShimmy · · Score: 1


    I think this is just a cleverly disguised plan to get Osama's mailing address. Extra Note on auction:
    **Must sell by election day**

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  98. Not really selling, but suying by NoDoZ · · Score: 1

    It doesn't look like this guy is actually selling it, but buying it. He's looking for someone to go in on the purchase with him.

  99. Nice features ... by LizardKing · · Score: 1

    Three phase power supply - it could run my Vax 11/780. Now lets see if I can rustle up 4 million dollars before someone else snaps it up.

    Chris

  100. lifestyle by name773 · · Score: 0

    This would be an awesome place to live!

    if you're researching the effects of radiation

  101. Ahaaah! by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

    Now I've got some place to put that Titan that's been taking up SO much space in my hotel room!

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  102. See other things this guy has sold by adam+arndt · · Score: 1

    Camera bag. Big camera flash. Jack hammer.
    The silo has been used for construction porn.

  103. Here Are The Possible Locations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  104. Re:Host Your Own Big Brother TV show. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a piece of sh!t you are...

    Do you really think you're cool, or that you've got some clever experiment going on? You're a waste of skin.

  105. Shit. by Perianwyr+Stormcrow · · Score: 1

    If I had 5 mil on hand, I'd buy it and call it Vault 13.

    That'd be excellent.

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  106. RE: Missle Complex by Woofles · · Score: 1

    Living in Moses Lake Washington being nice! Bull*hit I lived in the area for two and a half years the entire area sucks! Water contamination, there are large amounts of nitrates in the water; 12.85 parts per million the government allows only 10 or so parts per million and even that is way too much! There is also trichloroethylene (TCE) from the airport! Did you also know the area is a superfund (WAD988466355) Climate, if you lived in the area all year round the weather can be unbearable; triple digits during the summer and don't think of staying inside unless you like paying high energy bills. The fall and spring are okay but you can only bare the winter because there are horrible amounts of mosquitoes and I don't like wearing chemicals and/or long sleeved clothes during the HEAT! Culture, not to say I have anything against hespanics as a whole, but the people in that area especially anger me! There are many gangs, both kids and adults. The people seem to have no scenes of moral, when they go south they leave their dogs to starve and do it again next year, they don't take their trash home ,where I lived I would constantly get them stopping and throwing whatever in the back of their automobiles onto my property! Not to say that doesn't happen elsewhere but I found it happened quite a bit there. I also found that most of these people don't even have a green card! Which angers me the most, taking away American jobs! I would also like to point out there are an excessive amount of FAGS around there, and predators! And more people speak Spanish than English, many can't even speak/understand the word GET OFF MY PROPERTY! Did you also know that area is basically "down" wind from the Hanford superfund site! Which can be a problem especially when a storage facility full of plutonium goes off! WHY DID I STAY THERE FOR TWO YEARS? I got conned and had to stay, sucks to me... But you live and learn. But I must say that place is a complete hell hole (OTHELLO, OT-HELL-O) I could go on but my rage has left me for now:)

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  107. Re: Star Trek TOS/Paramount Inconsistancies by mikelieman · · Score: 1

    Last time *I* checked, Dr. Cochrane was NOT from Earth, but from Alpha Centauri. Did they discover the particle responsible for the changing history?

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  108. Don't rush into this one... by dtjohnson · · Score: 1



    There's a lot of silos for sale right now and it's a buyer's
    market. The Minuteman silos are much more spacious than the
    Titan silos and have nicer amenities including nicer lighting and
    better ventilation systems. The Minuteman III silos are the
    top-of-the-line in missile silos and are just starting to appear on the
    market...when they aren't being blown up
    that is.

  109. Re: Star Trek TOS/Paramount Inconsistancies by raodin · · Score: 1

    Really. And how did he get back to earth from Alpha Centauri within a lifetime *before* he invented any sort of FTL technology?

  110. To visit an excellent missile silo display ... by CactusCritter · · Score: 1

    In southern Arizona, at Green Valley, there is a silo which has been kept intact, except for the missile itself. I found it an interesting and impressive place to visit. They still have the radar fan antennas surrounding the silo which were intended to detect ground intruders. Somehow, it was seeing those surface radar antennas that made me feel how lucky that those of us who are still alive are to be in that condition. Basically, scarey stuff!

  111. Here's the movie by ricksmith · · Score: 1
    The old Rock Hudson movie, A Gathering of Eagles had some footage from inside a Titan I site. There's a scene inside one of the large domes and, of course, one of a silo containing a big missile.

    About 20 years ago I exchanged some newsgroup postings with someone who "spelunked" some mysterious site in Colorado which had 3 silos (filled with water) that sounded just like a Titan I site. I couldn't tell which site it was.

    There's a Titan II site open to the public, the Titan Missile Museum in Arizona . But those sites only had one silo instead of 3, and there's only one (smaller) domed area without the separate power house.

    Rick.

  112. Re: a nicer one... by Wilk4 · · Score: 1
    Here's a nicer one, already fixed up as a home...

    EBay item # 1761906773: Missile Silo Home
    "Located in the Adirondack Mountains and nestled between lakes Champlain and Lake Placid, this secluded home is the brainchild of developers Gregory Gibbons and Bruce Francisco. The retired Atlas-F Missile Silo has been transformed into a quiet, safe and secure luxury home in an area designed by the government to withstand a direct nuclear hit... This may be your last chance to find an uncontaminated and usable hardened underground complex." (link from GMSV)

  113. Re:Yeah, here's one of of the fixed-up atlas silos by Wilk4 · · Score: 1
    Here's a nice one, already fixed up as a home...

    EBay item # 1761906773: Missile Silo Home
    "Located in the Adirondack Mountains and nestled between lakes Champlain and Lake Placid, this secluded home is the brainchild of developers Gregory Gibbons and Bruce Francisco. The retired Atlas-F Missile Silo has been transformed into a quiet, safe and secure luxury home in an area designed by the government to withstand a direct nuclear hit... This may be your last chance to find an uncontaminated and usable hardened underground complex." (link from GMSV)

  114. KIRO TV (Seattle) is running this... maybe by djcrook · · Score: 1

    I forwarded this ebay item to a news editor friend in Seattle- KIRO TV- and they plan on running this at least on thier web site, possibly on the evening news. funny stuff.

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  115. Does it have by Pokendeye · · Score: 1

    Is this near, or on, a regular 3 missle family neighbourhood, And does it have cable access. And will you take a personal cheque. I'd give somebody's left nut for this proprety Size and weight of said nut open for negotiation.