You sir, are a jackass who has SERIOUSLY misconceived notions about an industry he knows absolutely nothing about.
Drop the elitist techy crap for a second and realize that different people have different skill sets. Marketing people know a HELL of a lot more about dealing with people than you apparently do. And you act as if the ability of a marketer to put their jargon into plain english to make it more easy to understand is a bad thing. I should be asking you why people don't comment their code enough.
But all of my points are not really important because they're falling on the deaf ears of someone who does not understand that technically PR is a facet of marketing, and that PR has been found to have a MASSIVELY larger impact on sales figures than traditional advertising has as of late. I wonder, what is scarier, that you think that secretaries could handle the PR or marketing for a company, or that those "secretaries" that actually do handle the marketing and PR have more impact on the companies bottom line than you ever would and you're not secure enough about your job to be able to just accept it and realize that different people are good at different things.
And for those about to mod me as troll or flamebait, try rereading the parent I'm responding to, and then realize that I'm not trolling or flaming him, I'm correcting the troll..err..parent.
There is advertising law out there that determines what claims you can and cannot make and what kind of evidence you'd need to make them. Now IANAAL(I am not an advertising lawyer) but as long as you say "industry leading" and not "#1 in the industry" you're not actually stating any facts, because nobody knows what measures you're using (and they'll have the statistics, but they'll be completely one-sided). If you actually ARE #1 in the industry in some way, well, then its ok.
It is the same thing with other claims. For example, the recent Miller campaign is very interesting. They state in their ads that they have "more flavor" than certain brands, but notice how they don't actually say "tastes better". You see, more flavor could be construed as tastes better or tastes worse, so its gray enough to not be an issue.
It's actually very interesting once you know a bit about these types of claims to start looking at ads and see what statements actually hold clout, and I wish more consumers knew about it because it helps differentiate between people who's products live on impressive but meaningless claims, versus those who's products actually have a basis for their impressive claims.
I can understand why this got modded up insightful, but it should be modded down as Unknowledgeable about Industry Jargon.
Now, I don't really get the context of this quote, but if this was written to another marketing/advertising person, that sentence would make perfect sense much the way legalese does to lawyers and code does to programmers. And just because you don't like reading it because it seems too "phony", doesn't mean it isn't useful to someone in the industry.
HOWEVER, if this is geared toward an actual potential customer, then this is horrible unless those potential customers are marketing people. More marketers need to learn to speak the language of the people they're selling things to.
As someone in marketing *gasp* and a complete geek, I would disagree.
Every industry has its own morons, and unfortunately everybody talks about the failures rather than the successes. Marketing and Technology CAN work together if the marketer is good at communicating to different types of people, and the technologist is good at providing useful data in a form the marketer can utilize.
The best marketing teams are the ones who really open themselves up to the opinions of the people who actually make the products and the people who actually use them.
A good marketer is always thinking about audience, not just what buzzwords they can throw in. Its really a shame, but not much of a surprise that most people hate marketers, and I will be the first to admit that there are some truly scummy people and practices in the industry, but I really wish Slashdotters would not condemn those of us who actually make an effort to understand what we're doing, be ethical, and who actually get it.
Kind of random, but if any one else here enjoys reading about different city ideas, you should check out Invisible Cities by Italo Calvino. Its a VERY short book that details the trip of Marco Polo through many different types of cities with different customs and cultures, all very fascinating and out of the norm.
Supposedly, the author was writing about all the various sub-areas of Venice, and each little area became a city after being given a deeper, extropolated look.
Nice troll and all, but guess what, it IS the future.
It lets us create things that look (semi)believeable, which will only get more realistic with time.
And your points are moot because actors will work where the money is. Last time I checked, people and their spending money decided what films the actors made, not the actors themselves.
And audiences don't hate it when its done well *cough*LoTR*cough*. And given time, it will only become more realistic like I said before, so that will start going away gradually. But the thing is..no matter how realistic anybody can make anything look, if it doesn't exist in real life, it will always have a hint of unbelievability.
"Slashdotting and the ensuing "/. KILLED MY SERVER!1" comments are, erm... funny and all, but it kind of defeats the purpose of a news web-site when links are posted in the full knowledge that they won't be available for very long simply because of the popularity of the news-site."
But if we stopped slashdotting sites it um...well, it wouldn't be funny anymore.
The idea also breaks down when you realize that there are people out there who would steal other peoples bikes, and then sell them back to them to make a profit, just to get ahead.
Ok, aside from the Asinine tag this would have on Fark, who does this guy think he is?
Legally, what right does he have to modify those files on my computer? I hope someone sues the shit out of this guy as he deserves it.
Before I get flamed for being pro-piracy, listen up, I don't condone people pirating this guys software, but he takes it a step too far, into what must SURELY be cybercrime territory.
Anybody want to post some of his contact information so we can "inform him" of the error of his ways?
There will be a class action lawsuit against this so quickly PayPal won't know what hit them.
I don't know how many people would come forward to complain about porn, but gambling will have them up in pitchforks. And of course only the lawyers win.
But seriously, how dare PayPal decide what I do with my money. I hope they lose a lot of business for this, as I'm sure a large portion of their business comes from these very things.
So I used to be a big fan of Warhammer Fantasy (and I had some 40k minis) back in the day. Yeah, Gamesworkshop reamed you a new one every purchase, but it was a fun hobby.
Now this game comes out and I don't have to buy any more of those fucking things! W00t!
But in all seriousness, I DL the demo, and played for a couple hours. It was VERY immersive. The key that they discovered was to make the invidivual units have personalities within the squads. Like, if you upgrade the squad leader to a powerglove, he'll use it in combat.
Its also cool to zoom in and watch the leader do a fatality on the last guy of a squad.
I liked upgrading your units on the fly, and reinforcements. I wish I could play as Eldar....oh well. Wish they made a Fantasy version of this.
I'll definitely be buying this one when it comes out. Its like WC3 but with 40k.
Its called they put the one or two best scenes in and you think the movie rocks when in fact those were the only good parts. Its happened too many times to count.
I can't believe this got modded up. Look, I downloaded it because I WANT TO TRY IT OUT. I've become so jaded with shit movies being released in theaters and me wasting 8 bucks on it (plus all the other crap you have to buy there) that I refuse to see any movie in the theater now unless I'm absolutely positive its going to be good, and usually that means downloading it and watching it first.
I'm not being a cock in this situation, I'm trying to get my money's worth. I'm a big fan of GiTS original movie, as well as the tv series. I will go see it in the theater because I know what a visual treat it is. But how DARE you call me a cock because I want to be sure I'm getting my moneys worth from the movie before I go see it.
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Drop the elitist techy crap for a second and realize that different people have different skill sets. Marketing people know a HELL of a lot more about dealing with people than you apparently do. And you act as if the ability of a marketer to put their jargon into plain english to make it more easy to understand is a bad thing. I should be asking you why people don't comment their code enough.
But all of my points are not really important because they're falling on the deaf ears of someone who does not understand that technically PR is a facet of marketing, and that PR has been found to have a MASSIVELY larger impact on sales figures than traditional advertising has as of late. I wonder, what is scarier, that you think that secretaries could handle the PR or marketing for a company, or that those "secretaries" that actually do handle the marketing and PR have more impact on the companies bottom line than you ever would and you're not secure enough about your job to be able to just accept it and realize that different people are good at different things.
And for those about to mod me as troll or flamebait, try rereading the parent I'm responding to, and then realize that I'm not trolling or flaming him, I'm correcting the troll..err..parent.
There is advertising law out there that determines what claims you can and cannot make and what kind of evidence you'd need to make them. Now IANAAL(I am not an advertising lawyer) but as long as you say "industry leading" and not "#1 in the industry" you're not actually stating any facts, because nobody knows what measures you're using (and they'll have the statistics, but they'll be completely one-sided). If you actually ARE #1 in the industry in some way, well, then its ok.
It is the same thing with other claims. For example, the recent Miller campaign is very interesting. They state in their ads that they have "more flavor" than certain brands, but notice how they don't actually say "tastes better". You see, more flavor could be construed as tastes better or tastes worse, so its gray enough to not be an issue.
It's actually very interesting once you know a bit about these types of claims to start looking at ads and see what statements actually hold clout, and I wish more consumers knew about it because it helps differentiate between people who's products live on impressive but meaningless claims, versus those who's products actually have a basis for their impressive claims.
Now, I don't really get the context of this quote, but if this was written to another marketing/advertising person, that sentence would make perfect sense much the way legalese does to lawyers and code does to programmers. And just because you don't like reading it because it seems too "phony", doesn't mean it isn't useful to someone in the industry.
HOWEVER, if this is geared toward an actual potential customer, then this is horrible unless those potential customers are marketing people. More marketers need to learn to speak the language of the people they're selling things to.
Every industry has its own morons, and unfortunately everybody talks about the failures rather than the successes. Marketing and Technology CAN work together if the marketer is good at communicating to different types of people, and the technologist is good at providing useful data in a form the marketer can utilize.
The best marketing teams are the ones who really open themselves up to the opinions of the people who actually make the products and the people who actually use them.
A good marketer is always thinking about audience, not just what buzzwords they can throw in. Its really a shame, but not much of a surprise that most people hate marketers, and I will be the first to admit that there are some truly scummy people and practices in the industry, but I really wish Slashdotters would not condemn those of us who actually make an effort to understand what we're doing, be ethical, and who actually get it.
Supposedly, the author was writing about all the various sub-areas of Venice, and each little area became a city after being given a deeper, extropolated look.
It lets us create things that look (semi)believeable, which will only get more realistic with time.
And your points are moot because actors will work where the money is. Last time I checked, people and their spending money decided what films the actors made, not the actors themselves.
And audiences don't hate it when its done well *cough*LoTR*cough*. And given time, it will only become more realistic like I said before, so that will start going away gradually. But the thing is..no matter how realistic anybody can make anything look, if it doesn't exist in real life, it will always have a hint of unbelievability.
But if we stopped slashdotting sites it um...well, it wouldn't be funny anymore.
And who reads slashdot for the articles?
It only has a tiny bit of the original one where he's trying to get his belt on, but the rest is all new and well worth watching.
Yeah, unless of course you actually ENJOY riding your bike, and want to ride something that is actually decent quality.
Lets not forget about BlackwaterUSA which IS a business military, currently hired by our government.
I wonder if I'm the only one who had to read that sentence twice.
Well, looks like our countries aren't so different after all.
"Speed Holes"
Legally, what right does he have to modify those files on my computer? I hope someone sues the shit out of this guy as he deserves it.
Before I get flamed for being pro-piracy, listen up, I don't condone people pirating this guys software, but he takes it a step too far, into what must SURELY be cybercrime territory.
Anybody want to post some of his contact information so we can "inform him" of the error of his ways?
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I don't know how many people would come forward to complain about porn, but gambling will have them up in pitchforks. And of course only the lawyers win.
But seriously, how dare PayPal decide what I do with my money. I hope they lose a lot of business for this, as I'm sure a large portion of their business comes from these very things.
Now this game comes out and I don't have to buy any more of those fucking things! W00t!
But in all seriousness, I DL the demo, and played for a couple hours. It was VERY immersive. The key that they discovered was to make the invidivual units have personalities within the squads. Like, if you upgrade the squad leader to a powerglove, he'll use it in combat.
Its also cool to zoom in and watch the leader do a fatality on the last guy of a squad.
I liked upgrading your units on the fly, and reinforcements. I wish I could play as Eldar....oh well. Wish they made a Fantasy version of this.
I'll definitely be buying this one when it comes out. Its like WC3 but with 40k.
Would you buy a car if they only let you drive it out of the lot once you'd paid for it?
Would you buy a CD without listening to any of the music on it?
I'm not being a cock in this situation, I'm trying to get my money's worth. I'm a big fan of GiTS original movie, as well as the tv series. I will go see it in the theater because I know what a visual treat it is. But how DARE you call me a cock because I want to be sure I'm getting my moneys worth from the movie before I go see it.