I agree with parent here. I made the original post about the theater cam version being on trackers now, and I'll watch that crap version.
But I will also be going with all my friends to see it in theaters when its released. Its wonderful how everybody here just assumes you'll download it and that'll be the end.
I would also probably buy the DVD when it comes out.
Its a pity parent got modded troll, because he's correct. This holier than thou attitude has GOT to go if we're going to have progress. There are MANY people who download movies who then go to see them in theaters and then go on to buy the dvd (and the special edition dvd, and the extended super special deluxe edition dvd....).
Am I really a thief if I download the movie to see if its worth seeing in theaters (or worth purchasing) and then decide to go see it/buy it? I don't think so. But apparently if I try the product out, find out its crap, and decide not to go see/buy it, I'm a thief, because I didn't want to spend my money on a gamble to see whether something is good or not.
Would you buy a car without a test drive? Would you buy a CD without listening to the music on it?
Parent should be modded insightful, not troll. And Slashbots need to stop buying in to the drivel the MPAA is spitting out.
Thank you for pointing it out, I was about to until I read your post.
Although I had originally been under the impression that he took pictures of the actors, and added them to the movie that way. Oh well, still just as cool.
If you ever want to see a cool CG anime done ENTIRELY by one man and voiced by himself and his wife, check out Hoshi No Koe (Voice of the Stars), and he recently did another one but I forget the name.
For those interested but not in the know, Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence is now available in bad quality on everybodies favorite trackers. Hope they get the DVD rip sometime soon.
Well, as someone from Chicago, I can't really say I'm surprised that a politically powerful family stays on top, of course I don't think this is really tied to Chicago.
"Asking the not-too-obvious but deeply related issue of a company that doesn't give a f*ck about people might get a more honest answer because he doesn't have PR handlers coaching him on this point."
Um.....what exactly makes you think the PR handlers aren't going to have say over every character he types in response to this? They're sending him some questions, he gets to take his time to research and respond in the best way possible. Yeah, its an interview with the man at the top, but don't be expecting some brutally honest answer that would paint Real in a bad light. His PR people will have their hands ALL over this before we get to see it, rest assured.
I seriously can't believe you just said that....on SLASHDOT! Do you have any idea how many people here browse from work? Its not like I'm NOT getting paid to do this now.
I just got a new alienware, and while there were some hastles ACTUALLY BUYING IT, it works excellently. Its running amazingly, but this could just be afterglow from a new computer after living with a 1ghz 384mb RAM geforce1 64mb ddr for 5 years.
Ok, onto the story.
So I talk to the guy on the phone after creating a system on the website. Never order a computer just off a website, always speak to someone.
He gave me a quote, and a promised ship date of August 6th.
Then calls back a couple days later, explaining that the ship date will have to be later because they're having trouble getting the nvidia card they had in stock. I chose that card because it had a MUCH shorter ship date than the ATI card which was limited availability, but a little more expensive. So he says he'll switch me for the ATI card, which he apparently has in stock and now according to the webpage, has the ship date that the Nvidia chip had, and the Nvidia chip is now limited availability.
Now, aside from not understanding HOW THE HELL THIS COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN, he did knock about a hundred off the card.
Then, few days later we find out it will ship later than the 6th, because they have to "test" the computer. I'm furious. The reason I need this computer BY THE 18TH of August was because I needed to transfer files to it before I came up to school with it.
They refuse to airship it because of potential damage, and I get the guys supervisor on the line. Now, the thing with these guys is, they're all based in Florida, and the guys on the phone are all mexican. Now, I don't like stereotyping, but apparently Alienware does. All of the Mexican guys use a fake American Sounding (TM) name instead of their real Mexican Sounding (TM) name. I can only guess that the Marketing Department at Alienware thought it would make the parents feel more comfortable buying a system from them.
I dunno. Anyways, it ships, finally, after me telling the guy that if it doesn't ship by this date, he'd better drive it up from Florida (to IL) himself to get it to me on time. So then we find out that the $150 rebate he promised, couldn't be done. So he gave us a $75 rebate and a $75 coupon from Amazon, because my father uses that heavily and it wouldn't be a problem.
Anyways, then when the thing ships, it looks like the speakers will arrive before the computer, and the computer won't arrive on time apparently. So then I go through some HUGE hastles with UPS who are completely incompetent and don't even know where their packages are.
Finally, the computer arrives, but its missing the $75 rebate, (the $75 amazon coupon shipped Express in its own UPS envelope and arrived a day earlier) and its also missing the keys to lock the tower (not that that would ACTUALLY stop someone who REALLY wanted to gain access to the front, as I could just snap the door off).
Finally, they mail everything to me. But its over, and I enjoy my new box.
Well, in all seriousness, the reason they give that definition of overclocking is because the PR people who made this press release want to be sure that all the kiddies who THINK they're cool computer geeks who know computers, don't know a damn thing, but have lots of disposable income (ie. parents who spoil), will understand that "this is a good excuse to charge more for it because you get the most TOP OF THE LINE XTREME GAMING MACHINE THAT THE WORLD HAS TODAY!!!! DUDE!!!!
And yes, I say this as I type from my brand new Alienware. The trick is, they make solid machines still (they always did, thats how they got started), but you completely overpay for the gaming case, so get a "home office" setup instead. Its a helluva lot cheaper with the same components, and a Dragon case instead of a custom one so its easier to work with.
And before some troll posts something along the lines of "well, real computer geeks BUILD their computers", I respond, "I'd get more money than I'd save if I build my own by working, and I don't really have freetime for it. But rest assured, I've built my own before, and its not THAT exciting."
Because you are not them. You need only worry about yourself in the end. If they make the decision to spend their money on that stuff, well....a fool and their money are soon parted.
You know, I read this, and immediately got pissed off. Then I realized something. If a company wants to make that special effort, wants to go that extra mile, just to PISS ME OFF, thats fine. Let them waste their money. When a company pisses me off, I remember that company, and not in a good way. Yeah, they got brand recognition all right, just not the kind they wanted.
I will just make sure I go that extra mile to avoid buying their products, and make sure I inform people of why.
So to all/.ers who will get up in arms over this...don't. It is inevitable that this technology will be developed. They will use it to intrude on our lives. But remember, ultimately you have a choice (until the law states otherwise) about whether or not they get your dollars. And if they don't, they just wasted all that cash on something that will just lose them customers.
If you really want to do something about it, write to the company (and the ad agency they use) and let them know that you will be buying the product of a competitor who uses less intrusive, annoying advertising. Its as simple as that, and you don't have to stress about anything.
There's no reason to bring BF1942 into this. Its a game, but its not like they take it over the edge. Its realistic in many aspects, but its not meant to highlight the ugliness of war, but rather the skill involved.
And the new BF:Vietname goes a step further. Have you heard the VC lady on the loudspeaker in the camp on some maps? She says things like "your government sent you to die", and other VERY realistic phrases. Creeps me out every time I play on that map as an Allied troop.
If you mean that by adding these features, they're furthering violent entertainment...well, they're just adding features that were in the original but had not been ported over yet, nothing big there.
And frankly, whats so wrong exactly with bloodsport? Granted, I don't condone the use of slaves and forced fighting, but there are a LOT of people who are drawn to that kind of thing. Why SHOULDN'T we have the option of watching that as entertainment? Who died and made you my moral compass? Perhaps someone should call up Bruce Springsteen and tell him to get a new name because you're The Boss.
A)MultiTheftAuto is software that lets you play multiplayer GTA3 and GTAVC.
B)See A.
C)Not unless you saw it posted on a news site that covered the game...oh wait....
D)Its not down, and what makes you think they purchased a slashvertisement? This is a VERY grassroots project that unlocked the multiplayer code from the original games and turned them into something that EVERYBODY who played them wanted.
Stop being so negative in your comments when you don't really know anything about what your posting on.
Well, one of those three was just spotted racing down the intersate on a crotch rocket being chased by 10 police cruisers, a helicopter, a tank, swat vans, and a really flashy sports car containing two rejects from the Disco.
" I don't have a little dog, but if I had why would it want my data?"
Because the dog is a rat thing from Neal Stephensons Snowcrash. It needs this data in order to better assimilate to its environment and learn more about its master who it is sworn to protect at all times. Do you want to deny your rat thing the ability to do this?
I don't think my indignation was unfounded at all.
They are making a product, which would normally cost a LOT more, which would normally require them to pay a LOT more people, and are instead giving one person a fraction of that (but still considerable for the individual) as a prize. I'm sorry, but when it comes to one person being rich, versus having many more tech people employed (which we should all be hoping for), I'm going with the latter.
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But I will also be going with all my friends to see it in theaters when its released. Its wonderful how everybody here just assumes you'll download it and that'll be the end.
I would also probably buy the DVD when it comes out.
Its a pity parent got modded troll, because he's correct. This holier than thou attitude has GOT to go if we're going to have progress. There are MANY people who download movies who then go to see them in theaters and then go on to buy the dvd (and the special edition dvd, and the extended super special deluxe edition dvd....).
Am I really a thief if I download the movie to see if its worth seeing in theaters (or worth purchasing) and then decide to go see it/buy it? I don't think so. But apparently if I try the product out, find out its crap, and decide not to go see/buy it, I'm a thief, because I didn't want to spend my money on a gamble to see whether something is good or not.
Would you buy a car without a test drive? Would you buy a CD without listening to the music on it?
Parent should be modded insightful, not troll. And Slashbots need to stop buying in to the drivel the MPAA is spitting out.
Although I had originally been under the impression that he took pictures of the actors, and added them to the movie that way. Oh well, still just as cool.
If you ever want to see a cool CG anime done ENTIRELY by one man and voiced by himself and his wife, check out Hoshi No Koe (Voice of the Stars), and he recently did another one but I forget the name.
I'd only piss on them if they weren't on fire.
Um.....what exactly makes you think the PR handlers aren't going to have say over every character he types in response to this? They're sending him some questions, he gets to take his time to research and respond in the best way possible. Yeah, its an interview with the man at the top, but don't be expecting some brutally honest answer that would paint Real in a bad light. His PR people will have their hands ALL over this before we get to see it, rest assured.
I just got a new alienware, and while there were some hastles ACTUALLY BUYING IT, it works excellently. Its running amazingly, but this could just be afterglow from a new computer after living with a 1ghz 384mb RAM geforce1 64mb ddr for 5 years.
Ok, onto the story.
So I talk to the guy on the phone after creating a system on the website. Never order a computer just off a website, always speak to someone.
He gave me a quote, and a promised ship date of August 6th.
Then calls back a couple days later, explaining that the ship date will have to be later because they're having trouble getting the nvidia card they had in stock. I chose that card because it had a MUCH shorter ship date than the ATI card which was limited availability, but a little more expensive. So he says he'll switch me for the ATI card, which he apparently has in stock and now according to the webpage, has the ship date that the Nvidia chip had, and the Nvidia chip is now limited availability.
Now, aside from not understanding HOW THE HELL THIS COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN, he did knock about a hundred off the card.
Then, few days later we find out it will ship later than the 6th, because they have to "test" the computer. I'm furious. The reason I need this computer BY THE 18TH of August was because I needed to transfer files to it before I came up to school with it.
They refuse to airship it because of potential damage, and I get the guys supervisor on the line. Now, the thing with these guys is, they're all based in Florida, and the guys on the phone are all mexican. Now, I don't like stereotyping, but apparently Alienware does. All of the Mexican guys use a fake American Sounding (TM) name instead of their real Mexican Sounding (TM) name. I can only guess that the Marketing Department at Alienware thought it would make the parents feel more comfortable buying a system from them.
I dunno. Anyways, it ships, finally, after me telling the guy that if it doesn't ship by this date, he'd better drive it up from Florida (to IL) himself to get it to me on time. So then we find out that the $150 rebate he promised, couldn't be done. So he gave us a $75 rebate and a $75 coupon from Amazon, because my father uses that heavily and it wouldn't be a problem.
Anyways, then when the thing ships, it looks like the speakers will arrive before the computer, and the computer won't arrive on time apparently. So then I go through some HUGE hastles with UPS who are completely incompetent and don't even know where their packages are.
Finally, the computer arrives, but its missing the $75 rebate, (the $75 amazon coupon shipped Express in its own UPS envelope and arrived a day earlier) and its also missing the keys to lock the tower (not that that would ACTUALLY stop someone who REALLY wanted to gain access to the front, as I could just snap the door off).
Finally, they mail everything to me. But its over, and I enjoy my new box.
And yes, I say this as I type from my brand new Alienware. The trick is, they make solid machines still (they always did, thats how they got started), but you completely overpay for the gaming case, so get a "home office" setup instead. Its a helluva lot cheaper with the same components, and a Dragon case instead of a custom one so its easier to work with.
And before some troll posts something along the lines of "well, real computer geeks BUILD their computers", I respond, "I'd get more money than I'd save if I build my own by working, and I don't really have freetime for it. But rest assured, I've built my own before, and its not THAT exciting."
I will just make sure I go that extra mile to avoid buying their products, and make sure I inform people of why.
So to all /.ers who will get up in arms over this...don't. It is inevitable that this technology will be developed. They will use it to intrude on our lives. But remember, ultimately you have a choice (until the law states otherwise) about whether or not they get your dollars. And if they don't, they just wasted all that cash on something that will just lose them customers.
If you really want to do something about it, write to the company (and the ad agency they use) and let them know that you will be buying the product of a competitor who uses less intrusive, annoying advertising. Its as simple as that, and you don't have to stress about anything.
And the new BF:Vietname goes a step further. Have you heard the VC lady on the loudspeaker in the camp on some maps? She says things like "your government sent you to die", and other VERY realistic phrases. Creeps me out every time I play on that map as an Allied troop.
And frankly, whats so wrong exactly with bloodsport? Granted, I don't condone the use of slaves and forced fighting, but there are a LOT of people who are drawn to that kind of thing. Why SHOULDN'T we have the option of watching that as entertainment? Who died and made you my moral compass? Perhaps someone should call up Bruce Springsteen and tell him to get a new name because you're The Boss.
B)See A.
C)Not unless you saw it posted on a news site that covered the game...oh wait....
D)Its not down, and what makes you think they purchased a slashvertisement? This is a VERY grassroots project that unlocked the multiplayer code from the original games and turned them into something that EVERYBODY who played them wanted.
Stop being so negative in your comments when you don't really know anything about what your posting on.
Wait, you mean he's not dead yet? Errr...he was in the last timeline I visited.
Because the dog is a rat thing from Neal Stephensons Snowcrash. It needs this data in order to better assimilate to its environment and learn more about its master who it is sworn to protect at all times. Do you want to deny your rat thing the ability to do this?
Bet you weren't expecting THAT for a response.
They are making a product, which would normally cost a LOT more, which would normally require them to pay a LOT more people, and are instead giving one person a fraction of that (but still considerable for the individual) as a prize. I'm sorry, but when it comes to one person being rich, versus having many more tech people employed (which we should all be hoping for), I'm going with the latter.
Bah, I was all prepared to make a "Would you like to know more?" joke too.
It simply means that all your data are belong to M$, AND YOUR LITTLE DOG TOO!!!!