Claiming that he isn't liable because his grandson was the one doing it, not him, is about as rediculous as saying that he's not liable if someone cracks their head open on faulty steps in his house because his grandson lives there not him. He owns the line, he's liable for any copyright infringement performed from that line.
First off, that is a horrible analogy. Who is responsible for the maintenance of the steps? And second of all, being liable for all use of the line has not been shown in court. In fact there was a story on here a while ago where the judge specifically said they had to go after the actual infringer (one of the riaa sues child stories).
I tried to find the article but couldn't, maybe someone else can provide the link...
How about ones that are qualified to properly dispose of nuclear waste. Presumably, leading engineers and scientists. You know, the ones that could potentially design a place to put the waste into, where by the local envrioment takes as small of an impact as possible.
Excellent plan, then we just move to wherever they are living since the storage obviously won't be in their back yards!
While I appreciate the fact that there will be anti-skimming and encryption incorporated, that is not going to be sufficient. Just consider how strong the encryption can POSSIBLY be, as the chips currently available are only 128-bit.
Especially considering passports last like 12 years, that is a long time in the computer world... Oh well, just be sure to renew before it goes into effect and you wont have to worry for a while.
They've had years to bring their web technologies into mainstream use and have failed to do so. I think their "we want it all", "open source hackers need haircuts" attitude is costing them big time. Adapt or die.
Interesting point. MS got much of it's power because they focused on making it easy to make software for their system. Monetarily and API wise. Now they seem to want to "compete" with open source without realizing that those are the same people they used to court. Things like this article just point to the symptoms of this dichotomy.
Politics aside, breaking the company into an OS unit which makes it easy to make stuff like office apps and a company that makes stuff like office apps might be the only way to stay competitive.
There's a reason we start with printf("Hello World."); and not with dragging a text box into a big white rectangle.
Why? They are both levels of abstraction. I don't think too many of us programmers got our start in assembly. I personally started with BASIC on a 286. An abstracted language whose major feature was ease of use. I don't think there is a fundemental difference other than visual abstraction is used to easily create visual applications and textual abstraction was used back in the day to generate textual programs.
Why is this sort of comment always very near the top of slashdot comments in all stories to do with a P2P user being convicted of copyright infringement? Wheres the comments denouncing the act of copyright infringement that took place?
It may come as a shock to you but quite a few of us here think the current copyright system is unjust. I have no problems breaking laws that I feel are unjust, and I will help anyone who feels the same.
Hey guess what, if you want to smoke pot and not get busted try visiting Vancouver BC. They have pretty much legalized it there. Be careful if you try and bring it over the border though, you might get in trouble.
I completely agree and would like to add something: the people at Guantanamo were all captured on the battlefield against US soldiers, operating under the control of no nation, not signatories to any of the Geneva conventions, are not US citizens, and in many cases have been shown to have attended training events on terrorism tactics.
Sounds just like the US war for Independance. A bunch of non-uniformed rabble using geurilla (sp?) tactics to defend their home.
I'm always a little perplexed by this line of reasoning. If it's not good enough to enjoy... why bother obtaining and watching it? If it's good enough to enjoy, and you're glad that the person who made the film (and his/her hundreds of co-workers and investors) spent the money and went to the trouble of producing it, why deliberately rip off the people making the stuff you do like?
Simple economics. It may be good enough to watch but not be worth the $20 or whatever. Since there is no price reduction for bad "quality" some movies will fall within this cost/benefit range. This is of course not commenting on the morality of the isssue.
My theory is that since copyright laws are supposed to be the will of the people that piracy should be viewed as competition not crime. The MPAA etc should be trying to value-add not value-reduce to "fight" this.
I guess they make up for it by posting a story on it here twice daily.
Anyway, I don't think any one country or organization should control it. We should go to a decentralized system and then everyone would be equally happy (or unhappy if they had plans to use this control).
I agree completely, but just because their statistics suck does not mean it is false. Intuitively it seems it would be true, but whatever...
Anyway, my main point is a question. I understand why in traditional media you would not want to take the space for indepth analysis of the actual numbers (preferably alongside the numbers themselves). Why the hell though, on the web where extra information means adding a line under a word, do they refuse to ever show the actual numbers? Is it really just laziness? It seems like it would be so easy....
This argument is false : for instance, look at the traditional Asian "Go" game. It has very simple rules, much simpler than Chess. If Sid's argument made sense, computer should be able to play Go very well. But the reality is that as of today, Computers cannot compete with a skilled human. Thus : there is no direct relationship between the complexity of the rules, and the difficulty to design a strong AI.
He was simply stating that the search complexity for his game would be much larger than chess. Just as Go's search complexity is MUCH larger than Chess'. 10^170 vs 10^50 according to http://ai-depot.com/LogicGames/Go-Complexity.html
Insert cliched rebuttal about how ideas don't have owners here.
Wow, people are very mis-informed in this thread today. Game rules are un-copyrightable! You can copyright the art, the rulebook etc but the rules of the game get no protection.
Fortunately, under Betamax, you will be able to timeshift your conversations using a PCR (Personal Conversation Recorder) and skip the ads. That is unless your conversations are flagged to protect their copyright integrity.
Yeah, the only problem is that you have to start the conversation 10 minutes after you get the call.
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You aren't. You aren't forced to watch The Simpsons or anything else on TV. You aren't forced to own a TV for that matter. Cultural values != individual values.
That sword cuts both ways. You aren't forced to listen to Howard Stern or watch explicit television either so why can't they be broadcast?
Copying entire books wholesale can hardly be called "fair use" and they're using the copyrighted text to drive up hits on their ads.
Maybe. Copying portions for review or discussion purposes (even ad supported reviews like magazines etc) is well within fair use though. Since Google is only displaying portions of the scan I would think it is more similar to the last situation. The courts will decide.
I work for a webhosting firm and almost monthly we get calls from old dudes with fishing websites asking why they used 500 Gigs of transfer and got an insane bill last month. Invariably it's because their ftp password was "cat" or some nonsense and somebody dumped a copy of dreamweaver, or a ton of MP3s, etc. on their account and linked it to a pirate site. But the first time I saw this happen, it made me think: piracy in general can have more economic impact that you realize at first.
Of course, keep in mind that unauthorized account access (theft of service) is the actual cause of this issue. This is already illegal as well.
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hehe, oh man, I really hope someone releases an exploit using this!
Claiming that he isn't liable because his grandson was the one doing it, not him, is about as rediculous as saying that he's not liable if someone cracks their head open on faulty steps in his house because his grandson lives there not him. He owns the line, he's liable for any copyright infringement performed from that line.
First off, that is a horrible analogy. Who is responsible for the maintenance of the steps? And second of all, being liable for all use of the line has not been shown in court. In fact there was a story on here a while ago where the judge specifically said they had to go after the actual infringer (one of the riaa sues child stories).
I tried to find the article but couldn't, maybe someone else can provide the link...
How about ones that are qualified to properly dispose of nuclear waste. Presumably, leading engineers and scientists. You know, the ones that could potentially design a place to put the waste into, where by the local envrioment takes as small of an impact as possible.
Excellent plan, then we just move to wherever they are living since the storage obviously won't be in their back yards!
4 (valid only for lawyers): collect $$$M
as long as those $$$Ms come out of Sony's pocket maybe it will make them think twice next time...
To the tune of Battle Hymn of the Republic:
1001 0101 1101 1010 101...
While I appreciate the fact that there will be anti-skimming and encryption incorporated, that is not going to be sufficient. Just consider how strong the encryption can POSSIBLY be, as the chips currently available are only 128-bit.
Especially considering passports last like 12 years, that is a long time in the computer world... Oh well, just be sure to renew before it goes into effect and you wont have to worry for a while.
They've had years to bring their web technologies into mainstream use and have failed to do so. I think their "we want it all", "open source hackers need haircuts" attitude is costing them big time. Adapt or die.
Interesting point. MS got much of it's power because they focused on making it easy to make software for their system. Monetarily and API wise. Now they seem to want to "compete" with open source without realizing that those are the same people they used to court. Things like this article just point to the symptoms of this dichotomy.
Politics aside, breaking the company into an OS unit which makes it easy to make stuff like office apps and a company that makes stuff like office apps might be the only way to stay competitive.
There's a reason we start with printf("Hello World."); and not with dragging a text box into a big white rectangle.
Why? They are both levels of abstraction. I don't think too many of us programmers got our start in assembly. I personally started with BASIC on a 286. An abstracted language whose major feature was ease of use. I don't think there is a fundemental difference other than visual abstraction is used to easily create visual applications and textual abstraction was used back in the day to generate textual programs.
I am sure that is what Germany thought. It is almost like several countries could create some sort of aliance...
Some people do hide behind satire as a way of expressing their political opinions.
Cowards like Voltaire, Jonathan Swift, Mark Twain, George Orwell, etc etc?
Why is this sort of comment always very near the top of slashdot comments in all stories to do with a P2P user being convicted of copyright infringement? Wheres the comments denouncing the act of copyright infringement that took place?
It may come as a shock to you but quite a few of us here think the current copyright system is unjust. I have no problems breaking laws that I feel are unjust, and I will help anyone who feels the same.
Hey guess what, if you want to smoke pot and not get busted try visiting Vancouver BC. They have pretty much legalized it there. Be careful if you try and bring it over the border though, you might get in trouble.
I completely agree and would like to add something:
the people at Guantanamo were all captured on the battlefield against US soldiers, operating under the control of no nation, not signatories to any of the Geneva conventions, are not US citizens, and in many cases have been shown to have attended training events on terrorism tactics.
Sounds just like the US war for Independance. A bunch of non-uniformed rabble using geurilla (sp?) tactics to defend their home.
I'm always a little perplexed by this line of reasoning. If it's not good enough to enjoy... why bother obtaining and watching it? If it's good enough to enjoy, and you're glad that the person who made the film (and his/her hundreds of co-workers and investors) spent the money and went to the trouble of producing it, why deliberately rip off the people making the stuff you do like?
Simple economics. It may be good enough to watch but not be worth the $20 or whatever. Since there is no price reduction for bad "quality" some movies will fall within this cost/benefit range. This is of course not commenting on the morality of the isssue.
My theory is that since copyright laws are supposed to be the will of the people that piracy should be viewed as competition not crime. The MPAA etc should be trying to value-add not value-reduce to "fight" this.
I guess they make up for it by posting a story on it here twice daily.
Anyway, I don't think any one country or organization should control it. We should go to a decentralized system and then everyone would be equally happy (or unhappy if they had plans to use this control).
I agree completely, but just because their statistics suck does not mean it is false. Intuitively it seems it would be true, but whatever...
Anyway, my main point is a question. I understand why in traditional media you would not want to take the space for indepth analysis of the actual numbers (preferably alongside the numbers themselves). Why the hell though, on the web where extra information means adding a line under a word, do they refuse to ever show the actual numbers? Is it really just laziness? It seems like it would be so easy....
This argument is false : for instance, look at the traditional Asian "Go" game. It has very simple rules, much simpler than Chess. If Sid's argument made sense, computer should be able to play Go very well. But the reality is that as of today, Computers cannot compete with a skilled human. Thus : there is no direct relationship between the complexity of the rules, and the difficulty to design a strong AI.
He was simply stating that the search complexity for his game would be much larger than chess. Just as Go's search complexity is MUCH larger than Chess'. 10^170 vs 10^50 according to http://ai-depot.com/LogicGames/Go-Complexity.html
Insert cliched rebuttal about how ideas don't have owners here.
Wow, people are very mis-informed in this thread today. Game rules are un-copyrightable! You can copyright the art, the rulebook etc but the rules of the game get no protection.
Well, I guess it helps that you can't copyright the rules to a game or maybe they already would have.
Fortunately, under Betamax, you will be able to timeshift your conversations using a PCR (Personal Conversation Recorder) and skip the ads. That is unless your conversations are flagged to protect their copyright integrity.
Yeah, the only problem is that you have to start the conversation 10 minutes after you get the call.
You aren't. You aren't forced to watch The Simpsons or anything else on TV. You aren't forced to own a TV for that matter. Cultural values != individual values.
That sword cuts both ways. You aren't forced to listen to Howard Stern or watch explicit television either so why can't they be broadcast?
Copying entire books wholesale can hardly be called "fair use" and they're using the copyrighted text to drive up hits on their ads.
Maybe. Copying portions for review or discussion purposes (even ad supported reviews like magazines etc) is well within fair use though. Since Google is only displaying portions of the scan I would think it is more similar to the last situation. The courts will decide.
I work for a webhosting firm and almost monthly we get calls from old dudes with fishing websites asking why they used 500 Gigs of transfer and got an insane bill last month. Invariably it's because their ftp password was "cat" or some nonsense and somebody dumped a copy of dreamweaver, or a ton of MP3s, etc. on their account and linked it to a pirate site. But the first time I saw this happen, it made me think: piracy in general can have more economic impact that you realize at first.
Of course, keep in mind that unauthorized account access (theft of service) is the actual cause of this issue. This is already illegal as well.
I am anthropomorphic information you insensitive clod!
It would be sheer idiocy to give goverments unaccountable to their people ANY control when we can avoid it.
Is ICANN accountable to the citizens of the United States?
I just wonder what patents they violated. That article is incredibly ligh on details and all the links on the page are subscriber only.