Let the government issue crypto certificates, I say.
Let's bypass all the political BS about should the government have more power or less or what and cut to the chase. Do you really want the largest and least effective entity (in democratic countries in general) to handle your certs? Pretty much everything the government does, it does poorly.
It's similar to the claims that international support in mozilla was a vulnerability. It isn't. the USER is the vulnerabitlity, educate the user and the vast majority of these problems will go away.
While I agree with you to some extent, you picked a really poor example there. The international characters in the URL toolbar are really very deceptive. Allow me to offer you two picture links.
Now you tell me which one is the cyrillic character, and which is the roman character. I don't know about you but my eyes are not that good! It would be trivial for some one to mask their domain in a link as another domain, provided the spoofed domain has a roman letter "a" in it anywhere. You could even set up a proxy server to listen for connections to something like https://paypal.com and respond normally. What's more, the web browser wouldn't issue an SSL alert, because the SSL cert would match the fake "paypal.com".
rot 13
Gur frpbaq yrggre vf gur ebzna "n".
I Can See Bruce Now....
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SHA-1 Broken
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· Score: 3, Funny
Bruce sits at his desk, reading over the encrypted e-mail sent to him about breaking SHA-1, when a loud scream echoes from his office
Amendment XIII
1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Doesn't mean a corporation can't be "owned". While IANAL, the stock you own in a corporation isn't literally a portion of the company, but rather a portion of the company's earnings. I could be wrong there, but that's how I understand it.
And for the record, slavery is legal in the USA as a punishment for crime, though I don't know of any State or federal law that allows slavery as a punishment (community service and enforced labor as part of prison sentences aside).
It seems apparent to me that Windows Server 2003 and SQL Server are propped up by third party ISVs. For example, I've done work with small credit unions which use a software system that will only interact with SQL Server, requiring of course, a Windows Server OS as well.
In this situation the software costs for a new server far exceed the hardware costs. Most of these applications have no need for anything beyond a basic SQL db server, yet were written before MySQL, Postrgres, and other OSS db's became viable alternatives to SQL Server. ISVs typically refuse to incur the costs of re-writing their software to no longer use specific SQL Server hooks. This gives Microsoft a huge inertia advantage over other platforms as far as small businesses go. I've spoken with many small business owners and the ISVs and generally speaking they agree that using a cheaper GNU/Linux solution would be preferable.
Given that such flagship products as Windows Server 2003 Small Business and SQL Server 2000 compete with Linux not on it's own merits, but on what ISVs allow you to choose, how do you expect to compete with OSS once the ISVs begin to change their strategy?
An irc server being a basic server app? somehow I don't think that will be included anytime soon. pgsql could be a nice addition, but squid/socks/irc is a bit too much.
I'm with you on an irc server. That's just not basic server software (though that does not necessarily mean it shouldn't be included in and of itself). As for Postgres, MySQL is already included and I feel it would be redundant to include two SQL servers. SOCKS just doesn't seem to fit for me, but there's nothing like squid in Slackware and a general purpose proxy server would seem to be a Good Thing(TM) to me.
And no, Apache is not a "good enough" proxy server.
Regarding the license issues of the unofficial Good Book, it is still possible for the individual writers to contribute their own portions to this new project, isn't it?
Short Answer
Ask a lawyer, I couldn't tell you.
Long Answer
IANAL, but it seems to me that as long as the portion in question contains no portions belonging to another author you may dual-license it all you please.
We started work on this before we knew about that. However, we don't see the two projects as being in conflict.
Of course they're not at conflict. At worst it's only healthy competition, like a sports game.
This is more of a community type thing
Personally I found it very difficult to get the community involved in documentation, and most of the "New Good Book" has been of my doing when my time is available.
the goal is to replicate the FreeBSD Handbook, which is quite a bit bigger then the Slackware Book.
And covers a lot more topics. My project is mainly designed to be a good introduction into Slackware Linux, teach people enough about the system to get it up, running, online, and understand the basics of linux in general and Slackware in particular. It isn't meant to be as indepth as what you're starting. Drop me a line sometime though, as I'd love to work together. Nothing like pooling resources to tackle big problems.
Our content is all under the BSD license, so the Slackware Book can use it.
I wish I could do the same. I typically prefer the BSD license for most things. I spoke with Pat recently about possibly migrating the Slackware Linux Essentials book to the Apple Common Documentation License (which is basically the GPL only tailored for documentation), but as he explained it to me the copyright was never transfered to him, so ATM I'm stuck with the GPL, which is fine by me of course.
We arn't[sic] trying to steal their thunder or something like that.
You gotta watch out for those when you're doing documentation!:^)
Let me be the first to wish them the best. I've been putting together a little "handbook" of my own (not nearly as ambitious as mimicking the excellent FreeBSD handbook, of which I own a hard copy incidently). Of course, anyone is free to contribute provided they license their writing under the GPL for inclusion. Basically it's a rewrite of the Slackware Linux Essentials book by Chris Lumens, Logan Johnson, and David Cantrell. You can find it here. I call it "The Unofficial Revised Slackware Book Project". Stop by and take a look, I think you'll enjoy it.
Props to these guys and their project, and I'd like to point out to them that can use anything at the above site provided they do so under the GPL.
I'm seeing a lot of BS from people who are either saying "Don't risk it, blow your money on expensive computers from Big Blue" or "Don't be a fool, get the cheapest thing you can find; it's all the same." Both are, at least partially, wrong.
Expensive doesn't always mean better. SCSI hard drives are wonderfully fast, but compared to high-end SATA drives which perform on par with the SCSI drives, they're terribly overpriced. "Servers" from a major OEM are similar. Dell is the worst about this, using a shoddy Intel board that doesn't even fully meet ATX specs, making replacing the motherboard with anything other than a Dell provided board difficult. (I'm not even going to bother arguing about how long it takes Dell to move its ass on fixing an obviously broken system with their "It's not a bug, that's a feature" mentality).
And cheaper isn't always the same. I forget which model, but DLink currently has one model NIC that is actually several different NICs, each with different chipsets, all marketed under the same name and model number. They're all steaming piles of shit that you can get for $5 to $10.
Best way to do it is to shop around. Think about what you want to build, what you need, and start looking online for configurations that match what you need. Look for reviews of the equipment. Shop around for the best prices.
Now, you mention that you work for a consulting firm. As some one who does that himself, let me tell you about my experiences as an OEM of desktops, workstations, and servers. It's fantastic, but there are some catches.
1- Don't buy from the rock-bottom cheapies. Find places that are offering decent hardware at a good and fair price and shop them. Those are the places least likely to shaft you and work with you, particularly on large orders.
2- Look for wholesalers in your State. Thankfully I'm from God's country (Georgia for all you heathens out there) and there are plenty of these types of people in Atlanta. A wholesaler will typically assign a salesman to you who you can call up and place orders with, handles all your changes, RMAs, etc. They will typically offer up to 1-year warranties on hardware regardless of the manufacturer's warranty. Good selection, great prices. You can't beat 'em.
If you RTFA he is plugging a cancer specialist he either has or cancer or maybe a benign tumor that could they thought could be cancerous.
Not necessarily. While that doctor is obviously hooked on cancer (not exactly what I meant, but you get the idea), he may not have been brought in specifically for that. Mark Hill dug up some info on the guy here. He's a hematologist, and could have been brought in for just about any patient with strange heart trouble I'd imagine, though I'm not a doctor of course.
This is old news. The 2.4.28 kernel was released with fixes for this though a 2.6.10 kernel hasn't yet been put out. I'm not sure who all has patched, but for Slackware users, you can get a 2.4.28 kernel package from SlackSec.
This is really hair-brained of me and I probably shouldn't bother posting, but is it possible that early man did not in fact originate in Africa as we have believed for a very long time? Coule early man have originated in say Asia, migrating to North America and Africa, died out in Asia, and then migrated back there or something else equally absurd?
Fact is we are a bit of an amnesic species when it comes to history and there is far too much that we don't know to make even a reasonable guess at human origins, IHMO.
Huge taxbreaks to corporations that allow them to offshore even more jobs
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I shouldn't bite but I am. Please, actually think about the situation before you state your position. Corporate tax breaks do not encourage out-sourcing, they discourage it somewhat. Corporations out-source because it's cheaper to do so. Making it cheaper to do business inside the US with tax breaks may convince some of them to keep their jobs here. What's so difficult to understand about that?
Actually it only has to be ratified by the Senate. The House doesn't get a say in it, so only half of Congress weighs in.
I say bravo to Bush on this one though. All the liberal/.'ers knee-jerk reactions are from a lack of understanding concerning Kyoto. This treaty isn't about cleaning up the environment, it's about holding back America so the rest of the world can catch up economically. The environment is the reason used for this.
Well said. As a Georgia (Jaw-Jun) who gets his share of the "stupid white Christian tobacco-chewin' redneck gonna send us to hell by voting conservative" crap I understand what it is like for people who are ignorant, yet think themselves intelligent and sophisticated to think I am ignorant. In reality they're typically off about 180 degrees.
The interesting thing is that the Weekly Reader is an actual Presidential poll of kids, and thus might have some relevance. The idea is that kids can tell you about how their parents intend to vote, and that people without kids or grand kids represent such a minority that they won't seriously effect the outcome of the election.
Now whether or not this is true or not is the million dollar question, but it at least has some relevance whereas a football game clearly has no relation.
Please learn something about business before shooting your mouth off.
I think you should blame your CEOs. They make billions every year, while their employee's make basic pay. Maybe I don't get it, but isn't it wrong, for management to make disgusting amounts of money, and decide they want more, by outsourcing to other countries?
We can argue whether greed is wrong or not, but let's not quibble over a moral issue. Contrary to popular belief CEOs do not make "billions". Many of them make a couple million dollars a year, but a lot of that is in stock options. Now as for making more money by outsourcing, let me offer you this scenario.
Two companies A and B exist right beside each other in the US. They both make the same product and charge the same amount for it. Their costs to produce the product are the same.
Now let's suppose that A outsources its tech support to India. Before hand they had 12 technicians paying them $12 an hour. For the cost of one of those technicians they can hire all 12 India technicians and pay the phone bill. Now their costs have dropped $132 an hour not counting what they save on the telephone bill. You can drop the cost of your product and gain market share from B without loosing profit margins.
Now everyone might be pissed that A is outsourcing, but they're still going to buy from A over B because A's widgits are cheaper. The fact that they outsource doesn't matter. Loyalty in America these days extends only to the pocket book.
don't like something someone else says? one freedom (which by some odd mystery we still do have) is the freedom to not listen. change the channel
instead, we have militant christian fundamentalists in office, part of some very weird brotherhood, bent on christian domination of world gov'ts.
I've about stopped responding to slashdot due to people like you. Are you aware that it is many Christians who are arguing the same "not so bad since you don't have to listen" line that you're spouting? It's one I myself as a Christian agree with. As for these "militant Christians bent on world domination" I just don't see it.
The law says (and for some time has said) that the airwaves are public and as such should bend to the public will. The law provides for limits to what one can do on public airwaves in the same way that the law provides limits on what one can do in a public park. The law provides ways to raise or lower the limit and enforce it. If you do not agree with the law it provides means in which to change them. Going around spreading conspiracy theories about Christians because it's politically ok to bash them isn't one of them. Write a representative, spread awareness of the issue and make other people believe in it as strongly as you do, and change will trickle up the system. That's the way our republic works.
Right now, I think
removing it would be the best thing for Slackware as it's become a maintainance nightmare (unlike nearly every other./configure'ed source, GNOME doesn't build into packages easily with DESTDIR).
now even i thought slackware's packaging system was sufficient (despite what others say), but if you are building and packaging by relying on DESTDIR, you really do need a change in the packaging system.
It's better to have the world think you're a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Slackware's package manager doesn't give a damn about DESTDIR. Let me repeat that. pkgtool et al don't give a damn about DESTDIR. DESTDIR is just a nice way of placing all files compiled to be put into/usr into another directory that can then be packaged up. This is immaterial to the package manager, no matter what damn package manager it is.
Really, what's happened to the linux community? The trolls used to have some idea of what they were talking about.
Until Pat weighs in on this publically I'm not certain about the validity of this claim.
Gnome has long ago lost focus on its goals. It used to be geared towards linux users. It was meant to be a fast and customizable linux DE. Somewhere between 1.4 and 2.0 Gnome development changed. It lost sight of those goals and became geared towards newbies and end-users.
Frankly, it never was as good as KDE at that. Being "user friendly" meant changing the reasons so many of us used and liked Gnome, alienating their base. Gnome became difficult to compile and even more difficult to package. Why can't Gnome install nicely using "make install DESTDIR=~/pkg"?
Pat mentioned in that e-mail that about a third of his time is spent trying to support Gnome, which given the entire size of Slackware is apalling. Spending a third of your time supporting what is around a twelth of the system's size will wear out anyone.
My personal hope is that the Gnome developers will wake up, get their asses in gear, and realize that they're not going to beat KDE on usability for newbies. They need to return to being the fast, custimizable linux DE. I suspect that most of Gnome's old users are now using a plain window manager or Xfce (good stuff).
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Let's bypass all the political BS about should the government have more power or less or what and cut to the chase. Do you really want the largest and least effective entity (in democratic countries in general) to handle your certs? Pretty much everything the government does, it does poorly.
While I agree with you to some extent, you picked a really poor example there. The international characters in the URL toolbar are really very deceptive. Allow me to offer you two picture links.
Letter "a"
Letter "a"
Now you tell me which one is the cyrillic character, and which is the roman character. I don't know about you but my eyes are not that good! It would be trivial for some one to mask their domain in a link as another domain, provided the spoofed domain has a roman letter "a" in it anywhere. You could even set up a proxy server to listen for connections to something like https://paypal.com and respond normally. What's more, the web browser wouldn't issue an SSL alert, because the SSL cert would match the fake "paypal.com".
rot 13
Gur frpbaq yrggre vf gur ebzna "n".
Bruce sits at his desk, reading over the encrypted e-mail sent to him about breaking SHA-1, when a loud scream echoes from his office
I JUST SENT OUT MY NEWSLETTER THIS MORNING!
Doesn't mean a corporation can't be "owned". While IANAL, the stock you own in a corporation isn't literally a portion of the company, but rather a portion of the company's earnings. I could be wrong there, but that's how I understand it.
And for the record, slavery is legal in the USA as a punishment for crime, though I don't know of any State or federal law that allows slavery as a punishment (community service and enforced labor as part of prison sentences aside).
It seems apparent to me that Windows Server 2003 and SQL Server are propped up by third party ISVs. For example, I've done work with small credit unions which use a software system that will only interact with SQL Server, requiring of course, a Windows Server OS as well.
In this situation the software costs for a new server far exceed the hardware costs. Most of these applications have no need for anything beyond a basic SQL db server, yet were written before MySQL, Postrgres, and other OSS db's became viable alternatives to SQL Server. ISVs typically refuse to incur the costs of re-writing their software to no longer use specific SQL Server hooks. This gives Microsoft a huge inertia advantage over other platforms as far as small businesses go. I've spoken with many small business owners and the ISVs and generally speaking they agree that using a cheaper GNU/Linux solution would be preferable.
Given that such flagship products as Windows Server 2003 Small Business and SQL Server 2000 compete with Linux not on it's own merits, but on what ISVs allow you to choose, how do you expect to compete with OSS once the ISVs begin to change their strategy?
I'm with you on an irc server. That's just not basic server software (though that does not necessarily mean it shouldn't be included in and of itself). As for Postgres, MySQL is already included and I feel it would be redundant to include two SQL servers. SOCKS just doesn't seem to fit for me, but there's nothing like squid in Slackware and a general purpose proxy server would seem to be a Good Thing(TM) to me.
And no, Apache is not a "good enough" proxy server.
Short Answer
Ask a lawyer, I couldn't tell you.
Long Answer
IANAL, but it seems to me that as long as the portion in question contains no portions belonging to another author you may dual-license it all you please.
Of course they're not at conflict. At worst it's only healthy competition, like a sports game.
Personally I found it very difficult to get the community involved in documentation, and most of the "New Good Book" has been of my doing when my time is available.
And covers a lot more topics. My project is mainly designed to be a good introduction into Slackware Linux, teach people enough about the system to get it up, running, online, and understand the basics of linux in general and Slackware in particular. It isn't meant to be as indepth as what you're starting. Drop me a line sometime though, as I'd love to work together. Nothing like pooling resources to tackle big problems.
I wish I could do the same. I typically prefer the BSD license for most things. I spoke with Pat recently about possibly migrating the Slackware Linux Essentials book to the Apple Common Documentation License (which is basically the GPL only tailored for documentation), but as he explained it to me the copyright was never transfered to him, so ATM I'm stuck with the GPL, which is fine by me of course.
You gotta watch out for those when you're doing documentation! :^)
Let me be the first to wish them the best. I've been putting together a little "handbook" of my own (not nearly as ambitious as mimicking the excellent FreeBSD handbook, of which I own a hard copy incidently). Of course, anyone is free to contribute provided they license their writing under the GPL for inclusion. Basically it's a rewrite of the Slackware Linux Essentials book by Chris Lumens, Logan Johnson, and David Cantrell. You can find it here. I call it "The Unofficial Revised Slackware Book Project". Stop by and take a look, I think you'll enjoy it.
Props to these guys and their project, and I'd like to point out to them that can use anything at the above site provided they do so under the GPL.
I'm seeing a lot of BS from people who are either saying "Don't risk it, blow your money on expensive computers from Big Blue" or "Don't be a fool, get the cheapest thing you can find; it's all the same." Both are, at least partially, wrong.
Expensive doesn't always mean better. SCSI hard drives are wonderfully fast, but compared to high-end SATA drives which perform on par with the SCSI drives, they're terribly overpriced. "Servers" from a major OEM are similar. Dell is the worst about this, using a shoddy Intel board that doesn't even fully meet ATX specs, making replacing the motherboard with anything other than a Dell provided board difficult. (I'm not even going to bother arguing about how long it takes Dell to move its ass on fixing an obviously broken system with their "It's not a bug, that's a feature" mentality).
And cheaper isn't always the same. I forget which model, but DLink currently has one model NIC that is actually several different NICs, each with different chipsets, all marketed under the same name and model number. They're all steaming piles of shit that you can get for $5 to $10.
Best way to do it is to shop around. Think about what you want to build, what you need, and start looking online for configurations that match what you need. Look for reviews of the equipment. Shop around for the best prices.
Now, you mention that you work for a consulting firm. As some one who does that himself, let me tell you about my experiences as an OEM of desktops, workstations, and servers. It's fantastic, but there are some catches.
1- Don't buy from the rock-bottom cheapies. Find places that are offering decent hardware at a good and fair price and shop them. Those are the places least likely to shaft you and work with you, particularly on large orders.
2- Look for wholesalers in your State. Thankfully I'm from God's country (Georgia for all you heathens out there) and there are plenty of these types of people in Atlanta. A wholesaler will typically assign a salesman to you who you can call up and place orders with, handles all your changes, RMAs, etc. They will typically offer up to 1-year warranties on hardware regardless of the manufacturer's warranty. Good selection, great prices. You can't beat 'em.
Not necessarily. While that doctor is obviously hooked on cancer (not exactly what I meant, but you get the idea), he may not have been brought in specifically for that. Mark Hill dug up some info on the guy here. He's a hematologist, and could have been brought in for just about any patient with strange heart trouble I'd imagine, though I'm not a doctor of course.
SuSE Linux
This is really hair-brained of me and I probably shouldn't bother posting, but is it possible that early man did not in fact originate in Africa as we have believed for a very long time? Coule early man have originated in say Asia, migrating to North America and Africa, died out in Asia, and then migrated back there or something else equally absurd?
Fact is we are a bit of an amnesic species when it comes to history and there is far too much that we don't know to make even a reasonable guess at human origins, IHMO.
Where have you been? Version 10 has been out for some time now. Grab your copy at the slackware store.
I've got plenty of penicilin shots you can have. Just ignore the equine lable.
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I shouldn't bite but I am. Please, actually think about the situation before you state your position. Corporate tax breaks do not encourage out-sourcing, they discourage it somewhat. Corporations out-source because it's cheaper to do so. Making it cheaper to do business inside the US with tax breaks may convince some of them to keep their jobs here. What's so difficult to understand about that?
Actually it only has to be ratified by the Senate. The House doesn't get a say in it, so only half of Congress weighs in.
/.'ers knee-jerk reactions are from a lack of understanding concerning Kyoto. This treaty isn't about cleaning up the environment, it's about holding back America so the rest of the world can catch up economically. The environment is the reason used for this.
I say bravo to Bush on this one though. All the liberal
Well said. As a Georgia (Jaw-Jun) who gets his share of the "stupid white Christian tobacco-chewin' redneck gonna send us to hell by voting conservative" crap I understand what it is like for people who are ignorant, yet think themselves intelligent and sophisticated to think I am ignorant. In reality they're typically off about 180 degrees.
The interesting thing is that the Weekly Reader is an actual Presidential poll of kids, and thus might have some relevance. The idea is that kids can tell you about how their parents intend to vote, and that people without kids or grand kids represent such a minority that they won't seriously effect the outcome of the election.
Now whether or not this is true or not is the million dollar question, but it at least has some relevance whereas a football game clearly has no relation.
Please learn something about business before shooting your mouth off.
We can argue whether greed is wrong or not, but let's not quibble over a moral issue. Contrary to popular belief CEOs do not make "billions". Many of them make a couple million dollars a year, but a lot of that is in stock options. Now as for making more money by outsourcing, let me offer you this scenario.
Two companies A and B exist right beside each other in the US. They both make the same product and charge the same amount for it. Their costs to produce the product are the same.
Now let's suppose that A outsources its tech support to India. Before hand they had 12 technicians paying them $12 an hour. For the cost of one of those technicians they can hire all 12 India technicians and pay the phone bill. Now their costs have dropped $132 an hour not counting what they save on the telephone bill. You can drop the cost of your product and gain market share from B without loosing profit margins.
Now everyone might be pissed that A is outsourcing, but they're still going to buy from A over B because A's widgits are cheaper. The fact that they outsource doesn't matter. Loyalty in America these days extends only to the pocket book.
I've about stopped responding to slashdot due to people like you. Are you aware that it is many Christians who are arguing the same "not so bad since you don't have to listen" line that you're spouting? It's one I myself as a Christian agree with. As for these "militant Christians bent on world domination" I just don't see it.
The law says (and for some time has said) that the airwaves are public and as such should bend to the public will. The law provides for limits to what one can do on public airwaves in the same way that the law provides limits on what one can do in a public park. The law provides ways to raise or lower the limit and enforce it. If you do not agree with the law it provides means in which to change them. Going around spreading conspiracy theories about Christians because it's politically ok to bash them isn't one of them. Write a representative, spread awareness of the issue and make other people believe in it as strongly as you do, and change will trickle up the system. That's the way our republic works.
It's better to have the world think you're a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Slackware's package manager doesn't give a damn about DESTDIR. Let me repeat that. pkgtool et al don't give a damn about DESTDIR. DESTDIR is just a nice way of placing all files compiled to be put into /usr into another directory that can then be packaged up. This is immaterial to the package manager, no matter what damn package manager it is.
Really, what's happened to the linux community? The trolls used to have some idea of what they were talking about.
Until Pat weighs in on this publically I'm not certain about the validity of this claim.
Gnome has long ago lost focus on its goals. It used to be geared towards linux users. It was meant to be a fast and customizable linux DE. Somewhere between 1.4 and 2.0 Gnome development changed. It lost sight of those goals and became geared towards newbies and end-users.
Frankly, it never was as good as KDE at that. Being "user friendly" meant changing the reasons so many of us used and liked Gnome, alienating their base. Gnome became difficult to compile and even more difficult to package. Why can't Gnome install nicely using "make install DESTDIR=~/pkg"?
Pat mentioned in that e-mail that about a third of his time is spent trying to support Gnome, which given the entire size of Slackware is apalling. Spending a third of your time supporting what is around a twelth of the system's size will wear out anyone.
My personal hope is that the Gnome developers will wake up, get their asses in gear, and realize that they're not going to beat KDE on usability for newbies. They need to return to being the fast, custimizable linux DE. I suspect that most of Gnome's old users are now using a plain window manager or Xfce (good stuff).