It should be no surprise to anyone who keeps tabs on Sun's desktop Linux activities that they focus heavily on GNOME, along with practically every other corporate desktop Linux supporter. There's Red Hat, Ximian, Sun, and the recently acquired SuSE, which will have Ximian handle its desktop development, according to Novell.
The obvious conclusion to be drawn from this is that KDE has lost its main commercial support.
Let us take a look at some of the reasons why this is so:
GNOME has always been the commerical desktop of choice. It has long been focussed on getting the basics right and building from there... as opposed to the KDE Project, which is entirely aimed at pleasing the slashdot peanut gallery with pointless eye-candy. KDE features are thrown into the mix with little or no regard for usability, or even good taste. The end result is disasterous, as can be seen by anyone unforunate enough to be forced into using it.
KDE is extremely expensive to develop for, unless you intend to produce GPL software. TrollTech, the owners of KDE and Qt, license the X11 version of their Qt toolkit under the GPL. This forces anyone wanting to develop software built on top of it (including KDE), to be (L)GPL licensed -- or pay TrollTech $3000 for every developer you have working on the application to purchase a commercial license.
TrollTech is also vulnerable to takeover by companies hostile to Free software and good corporate lawyers who can blow holes in the laughable FreeQt agreements.
Qt's/KDE lack of accessiblity. Accessiblity is vital feature for a modern desktop. A desktop cannot be sold to the U.S. government unless it supports the features necessary for disabled users to make full use of it. The lack of said feature effectively cuts it off from the biggest software purchaser of all. GNOME has spent the last 18 months and more doing the ground-work and developing/polishing the accessiblity of the GNOME desktop (thanks to the fine work of Sun engineers). KDE has spent the time making *fake* translucent menus to help make impressive screenshots. Over the next few months you can expect increasing numbers of near-orgasmic announcements of weak accessiblity support from the KDE project, as the full extent of their folly and just how far they are behind GNOME finally becomes obvious to them. The end result will be, as with all KDE features, half-assed and broken -- designed only to function as a marketing feature tick-box filler.
Novell is already engaged in training its engineers in development using GTK/GNOME -- not Qt/KDE.
Nat Friedman (co-founder of Ximian), recently made a post to slashdot [slashdot.org] explaining the take-over and future directions. Much has been made of Novell's claims that it will continue to "support" KDE, but this is merely as legacy software. As Nat's post makes clear, the future of Novell is GNOME and the push for a single dominant desktop.
Many desperate and ignorant (ie. most of them) KDE advocates are clinging to the idea that Novell will run KDE with Ximian/GNOME's superior software like Evolution. Little do they realise that running Evolution is running GNOME without the panel apps. Evolution is deeply integrated into GNOME... running a KDE desktop with Evolution is the height of stupidity and only adds to the extraordinary bloat and sloth assocated with KDE. Why would a company maintain, develop and test two different code bases? They wouldn't... hence the reason why KDE is dead at SUSE.
Finally, and most damning of all, TrollTech is partly owned by the lawyers at SCO! Yes, the very same viper-pit that is currently trying to smash and grab Linux and other GPL software is the company behind the curtain at TrollTech and the KDE Project!
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Sure she's not human, but it sure beats all the sleazy Mexican whores I've been with,
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Sharing is fine unless it's software or music. That's what I was taught in kindergarten anyway:
Teacher: Ok Peter, what did you bring for show-and-tell today to share with us? Oh, you brought software? Well don't share any of it! Sharing is wrong, sharing means you're a pirate!
Actually I tend now to ignore all licenses unless the threat of physical force (the law) causes me to do otherwise. I believe licenses have no moral force.
So I guess that makes me a pirate. In that case, Arrgh, matey! Let's hit the high seas! I've got some Britney Speares CDs in yonder chest!
"Real" gui? Is there any other type? I could be wrong though, maybe someone modded the Unreal engine and turned it into an open-gl 3d GUI...
Nobody uses pure X by itself; it does very little on its own so you need a window manager to go with it. I use KDE myself, and find QT programming to be far superior than that Windows API crap.
Great! Are you serious about this? I'd love it to integrate with my p2p program. There can be a little button to the side when I'm downloading a song that says "click here to donate a dollar to the artist." I have no technical background to do this, but I wish you luck!
The guy almost sounds apologetic, "I'm just sampling..", "a humble student like me" etc. People need to realize that they *deserve* to have the freedom to share published information, and the RIAA are the real crooks here for threatening good people with jail and lawsuits in a desparate effort to maintain their control. These same tactics were employed by the former Soviet Union, except in that country the motive was political; in the US the motive is profit. But the actions affect us the same way regardless of the motive. I laugh when the RIAA uses smear words like "piracy" and "theft," as if they're suggesting that sharing music is the moral equivalent of attacking a ship on the high seas, murdering and kidnapping the people on them. It's sad that most people in this country buy into the idea that the RIAA and others should have the right to boss people around and tell them what they can and can't make a copy of. Although I don't listen to much music, admittedly, I never buy CDs anymore, and I'm proud of it. The day the "music industry" dies (at least in its current form) will be cause for celebration.
Don't know where this is going, but I'm afraid it might get significantly harder for humble college students such as myself to sample an artist's music before going out and buying a disc...
I know exactly where it's going, and I don't like it one bit. But the solution is not to buy CDs at all; only 4% of the profits go to the artists anyway. You'd actually be giving them more by just mailing them a dollar. (If only there were an easy way to do this) The only way to get rid of the RIAA disease is to quit feeding it. Music existed long before there was a "music industry" and it will certainly exist long after it has gone.
Digital Restrictions Management most certainly is bad, regardless of whether Big Media/MS pushes it or not. Saying that "oh, Windows 2005 Palladium will have DRM, we've got to beat them to it with our own open source version!" is the wrong kind of approach. Some technologies we *don't* want in our operating systems, believe it or not. Most free software advocates are vehemently opposed to the idea of DRM, and I for one will never install an operating system with such a "feature."
http://www.konqueror.org
http://www.apple.com/safari
Seriously.
Do you work for Opera Software or something? Your other post was also a plug for Opera.
Opera is proprietary software, which I'll never use since I value my freedom. Even the "free" (as in beer) version comes with a huge frickin' banner ad built into it, which is a true sign of scumware. It also isn't the fastest browser anymore, and has never been the most capable.
And Mozilla is an IE killer in my opinion. It has some great features than IE lacks such as popup blocking and image blocking. It just isn't my absolute favorite (though still great!)
We should avoid using "content" to describe this
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From the gnu website:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.htm l
``Content''
If you want to describe a feeling of comfort and satisfaction, by all means say you are ``content'', but using it as a noun to describe written and other works of authorship is worth avoiding. That usage adopts a specific attitude towards those works: that they are an interchangeable commodity whose purpose is to fill a box and make money. In effect, it treats the works themselves with disrespect.
Those who use this term are often the publishers that push for increased copyright power in the name of the authors (``creators'', as they say) of the works. The term ``content'' reveals what they really feel.
As long as other people use the term ``content provider'', political dissidents can well call themselves ``malcontent providers''.
Of course, Red Hat is also phasing out earlier versions of Red Hat Linux, but due to its open source nature you could get security updates from another source (apt-rpm repositories for instance) or make your own patches. Windows users are forced to rely on Microsoft for timely security updates, which they frequently fail to provide even in recent versions of Windows.
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The obvious conclusion to be drawn from this is that KDE has lost its main commercial support.
Let us take a look at some of the reasons why this is so:
GNOME has always been the commerical desktop of choice. It has long been focussed on getting the basics right and building from there... as opposed to the KDE Project, which is entirely aimed at pleasing the slashdot peanut gallery with pointless eye-candy. KDE features are thrown into the mix with little or no regard for usability, or even good taste. The end result is disasterous, as can be seen by anyone unforunate enough to be forced into using it.
KDE is extremely expensive to develop for, unless you intend to produce GPL software. TrollTech, the owners of KDE and Qt, license the X11 version of their Qt toolkit under the GPL. This forces anyone wanting to develop software built on top of it (including KDE), to be (L)GPL licensed -- or pay TrollTech $3000 for every developer you have working on the application to purchase a commercial license.
TrollTech is also vulnerable to takeover by companies hostile to Free software and good corporate lawyers who can blow holes in the laughable FreeQt agreements.
Qt's/KDE lack of accessiblity. Accessiblity is vital feature for a modern desktop. A desktop cannot be sold to the U.S. government unless it supports the features necessary for disabled users to make full use of it. The lack of said feature effectively cuts it off from the biggest software purchaser of all. GNOME has spent the last 18 months and more doing the ground-work and developing/polishing the accessiblity of the GNOME desktop (thanks to the fine work of Sun engineers). KDE has spent the time making *fake* translucent menus to help make impressive screenshots. Over the next few months you can expect increasing numbers of near-orgasmic announcements of weak accessiblity support from the KDE project, as the full extent of their folly and just how far they are behind GNOME finally becomes obvious to them. The end result will be, as with all KDE features, half-assed and broken -- designed only to function as a marketing feature tick-box filler.
Novell is already engaged in training its engineers in development using GTK/GNOME -- not Qt/KDE.
Nat Friedman (co-founder of Ximian), recently made a post to slashdot [slashdot.org] explaining the take-over and future directions. Much has been made of Novell's claims that it will continue to "support" KDE, but this is merely as legacy software. As Nat's post makes clear, the future of Novell is GNOME and the push for a single dominant desktop.
Many desperate and ignorant (ie. most of them) KDE advocates are clinging to the idea that Novell will run KDE with Ximian/GNOME's superior software like Evolution. Little do they realise that running Evolution is running GNOME without the panel apps. Evolution is deeply integrated into GNOME... running a KDE desktop with Evolution is the height of stupidity and only adds to the extraordinary bloat and sloth assocated with KDE. Why would a company maintain, develop and test two different code bases? They wouldn't... hence the reason why KDE is dead at SUSE.
Finally, and most damning of all, TrollTech is partly owned by the lawyers at SCO! Yes, the very same viper-pit that is currently trying to smash and grab Linux and other GPL software is the company behind the curtain at TrollTech and the KDE Project!
Check out the amazing Yoshi girl and her playful tentacle friend! Rides starting soon at $29.99 (Saddle not included; children ride for half-price).
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Yoshi-girl is genetically engineered to be in constant sexual heat and is guaranteed to pounce on even the smelliest nerd with little coaxing! Spending a few hours with Yoshi-girl is sure to be the most gratifying experience you've had in years. Don't believe us? Just look at these testimonials from previous customers:
Hunched over in that uncomfortable chair writing Linux kernel code all day was really tense. Human girls wouldn't come near me, but Yoshi-girl treated me like I was the last man on Earth. Two thumbs up!
-- Linus Torvalds
Sure she's not human, but it sure beats all the sleazy Mexican whores I've been with, and believe me, I've been with more than you can count. You go Yoshi!
-- Miguel De Icaza
You gotta love the 2-foot-long tongue.
-- Richard Stallman
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The mystery is revealed. It is the The Hormel Food Company!
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I noticed it says "from the break-out-your-wallet dept."
Well, not for me! My friends Blackbeard, Long John, and Jean Lafite will see to that!
Fifteen men on a p2p node,
Yo ho ho, an illegal download!
Sharing is fine unless it's software or music.
That's what I was taught in kindergarten anyway:
Teacher: Ok Peter, what did you bring for show-and-tell today to share with us? Oh, you brought software? Well don't share any of it! Sharing is wrong, sharing means you're a pirate!
Actually I tend now to ignore all licenses unless the threat of physical force (the law) causes me to do otherwise. I believe licenses have no moral force.
So I guess that makes me a pirate. In that case, Arrgh, matey! Let's hit the high seas! I've got some Britney Speares CDs in yonder chest!
"Real" gui? Is there any other type? I could be wrong though, maybe someone modded the Unreal engine and turned it into an open-gl 3d GUI...
Nobody uses pure X by itself; it does very little on its own so you need a window manager to go with it. I use KDE myself, and find QT programming to be far superior than that Windows API crap.
Nice troll, btw
Great! Are you serious about this? I'd love it to integrate with my p2p program. There can be a little button to the side when I'm downloading a song that says "click here to donate a dollar to the artist." I have no technical background to do this, but I wish you luck!
The guy almost sounds apologetic, "I'm just sampling..", "a humble student like me" etc. People need to realize that they *deserve* to have the freedom to share published information, and the RIAA are the real crooks here for threatening good people with jail and lawsuits in a desparate effort to maintain their control. These same tactics were employed by the former Soviet Union, except in that country the motive was political; in the US the motive is profit. But the actions affect us the same way regardless of the motive. I laugh when the RIAA uses smear words like "piracy" and "theft," as if they're suggesting that sharing music is the moral equivalent of attacking a ship on the high seas, murdering and kidnapping the people on them. It's sad that most people in this country buy into the idea that the RIAA and others should have the right to boss people around and tell them what they can and can't make a copy of. Although I don't listen to much music, admittedly, I never buy CDs anymore, and I'm proud of it. The day the "music industry" dies (at least in its current form) will be cause for celebration.
I know exactly where it's going, and I don't like it one bit. But the solution is not to buy CDs at all; only 4% of the profits go to the artists anyway. You'd actually be giving them more by just mailing them a dollar. (If only there were an easy way to do this) The only way to get rid of the RIAA disease is to quit feeding it. Music existed long before there was a "music industry" and it will certainly exist long after it has gone.
Digital Restrictions Management most certainly is bad, regardless of whether Big Media/MS pushes it or not. Saying that "oh, Windows 2005 Palladium will have DRM, we've got to beat them to it with our own open source version!" is the wrong kind of approach. Some technologies we *don't* want in our operating systems, believe it or not. Most free software advocates are vehemently opposed to the idea of DRM, and I for one will never install an operating system with such a "feature."
http://www.konqueror.org http://www.apple.com/safari Seriously. Do you work for Opera Software or something? Your other post was also a plug for Opera. Opera is proprietary software, which I'll never use since I value my freedom. Even the "free" (as in beer) version comes with a huge frickin' banner ad built into it, which is a true sign of scumware. It also isn't the fastest browser anymore, and has never been the most capable. And Mozilla is an IE killer in my opinion. It has some great features than IE lacks such as popup blocking and image blocking. It just isn't my absolute favorite (though still great!)
From the gnu website:
m l
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.ht
``Content''
If you want to describe a feeling of comfort and satisfaction, by all means say you are ``content'', but using it as a noun to describe written and other works of authorship is worth avoiding. That usage adopts a specific attitude towards those works: that they are an interchangeable commodity whose purpose is to fill a box and make money. In effect, it treats the works themselves with disrespect.
Those who use this term are often the publishers that push for increased copyright power in the name of the authors (``creators'', as they say) of the works. The term ``content'' reveals what they really feel.
As long as other people use the term ``content provider'', political dissidents can well call themselves ``malcontent providers''.
I think Windows is going towards another element: Palladium
Hehehehehe
Of course, Red Hat is also phasing out earlier versions of Red Hat Linux, but due to its open source nature you could get security updates from another source (apt-rpm repositories for instance) or make your own patches. Windows users are forced to rely on Microsoft for timely security updates, which they frequently fail to provide even in recent versions of Windows.
I lost my job playing that stupid game! It's the reason the real economy is doing so badly! :)
I can use this to share all my Linux warez with impunity!! Ha ha GPL take that! I'm sharing and there's nothing you can do about it!! NOTHING!
I bet Eugenia just donloaded the latest Cooker release and reviewed that! :)
Thank goodness I live in the States where we don't have to worry about privacy issues! :P
I've been missing one of my Mac OS manuals for over a week! Give it back O'Reilly!
What next? Pies, pasteries, fudge brownies? Where will this madness stop?
You fool! Don't spill the beans! I have enough problems with popup ads already!
Ok this is a new low for the NY Times, using pr0n to attract readers. I mean, how horny do you think we are?
Now that Al Gore is on Apple's board of directors he secretly wants to turn all Macs into boring beige Wintel machines! Stop him before it's too late!