Who are you to say that a creator of a work doesn't have the right to have a say in how his work is used. If I make something and dont want it in a commercial product, or used by people I dont like or aggree with, I should, and do, have the right to stipulate that.
Freedom according to RMS, ie the GPL, doesn't let me control my hard work beyond no commercial useage, and it doesn't let me profit from the sale of my work. With the GPL I can't say that rapists, or assholes or 'crazy people that tell me how to do things' arn't allowed to use my software or whatever it is I'm producing.
The only way that s right, or as was so eloquently put, "As it fucking should be" is a author or creator of a work can decide how and where their work can and can't be used.
ya I know its off topic, but for anyone to think that the way they believe things should be done is the ONLY way is not only egotistical, its also stupid and limiting.
I think what he means is "its just a crash rght now dont bother me untill you can show an exploit and have fixed it." It says right in the article they don't know if it will allow a system to be compromised, and it seems that until someone else checks that, he doesn't care. I was just saying that a crash might not be a crash, but Theo's attitude is a little lax in aproching the situation considering that they say right on bootup to OpenBSD the PROACTIVLY secure unix system. Not all that proactive when you don't take action to actually prevent a problem and just wait for someone to give you step-by-step how to comprimise a system.
Well no, at the moment its "just a crash" because no ones looked into it to see if it will allow code to be executed, but yes I dont believe IPv6 is in the default install.
This is a problem with OpenBSD's IPv6 implimentation where if you send bad data, it looks like sending something larger then expected, then the kernel will crap out on you.
The rolling your own kernel OR build your wn network stack is whats required for the REMOTE host to send these bad packets to your system and crash it.
On an unrelated note, its a little disturbing to see this as i just rebooted a OBSD 3.3 system to upgrade to 3.4, but then again, I don't run IPv6.
What I would say is most suspect is Theo's reaction "Its just a crash." You would hope someone who started a project to create the worlds most secure OS would actually care there might be a problem.
I think the real reason people buy analog watches, and in my case only ever an analog watch, is it is stylish and looks far better then any digital one. I also look at digital watches like velcro for shoes, its wearers are just far too lazy.
Only a SE/30, or maybe a SE should be destroyed like that, and then only if they don't work. Older then those and they're starting to become collectors items, and some people will pay well for a working 128 or 512 mac.
Those "really old, really crappy sun4m" workstations make for some really fantastic systems. I was able to pick up 2 Sparcstation 10's older then he 5's you were so cruel too, on was a dual supersparc 50mhz, the other a dual hypersparc 150, each with 128mb ram, for $30 each at a used computer store here. Take out the one 50 supersparc and i have a good openbsd firewall and a spare processor if it craps out, the other Im about to install Solaris 8 on. they are getting older, but that just means that you can get some great deals on them.
You have to go really far back for these Unix workstations to really use their value.
Hand that feeds them? Oh you mean the one time fee's that MS and Sun paid because, wait, its comming to me, oh ya, they licenced something from SCO. Seems to me that Sun and MS did the legal thing instead of just stealing what ever it was, or just erred on the side of caution with what could be SCO's property.
So how about backing up your wild claims before suggesting that every commercial transaction is just a conspiracy.
But he wasnt looking at the past, the artical was a little retrospective, but no ones gonna walk in and say a Mac 128 is the be all and the end all the way the amiga user in timewarp will.
/usr should be system (network) global binaries and libraries, as in/usr could be mounted from an NFS share and every one would be happy, stuff that needs to be local to this machine or arch goes in, suprise surprise/usr/local
But still, these are system wide libraries, for instance, perhaps stuff like audiolib or vorbis libs considering the number of other apps that depend on them
/opt was well named for *optional* software, or nice stuff that isnt required. Gnome, KDE, Firebird and the like. Keeps the ssytem nice and clean, and its just not that hard writing proper $PATH statements
Take a closer look at the revision number of the Solaris 8 that ships on this system, its the Hardware revision 5/03, (May/2003) Its been updated, and support made specifically for Solaris 8 for this machine, its about as 'old' as Solaris 9 is.
I havent used , I've only had the oppertuity to use 8 on intel, and have a older sparc here and will install 8 on it when I set it up, either way, 8 is not old (useless), and I would assume there is less OS overhead on the system being it is a little older (age) then 9 has. But again, thats only an assumption.
No No No, it wasnt the invading of Russia that what their downfall, it as invading too close to winter with a force that was unprepared for the Russian winters, while at the same time underestimating the strenth and the 'Home Field' advantage they had.
That said the winter in Utah, to the best of my knowledge isn't anything like those in Russia, so take that any way you want.
BSD: Free as in the way everyone thinks about it, do what you want with it, just give credit where credit is due
GPL: Free as RMS chooses to define it. Its free, you can do what ever you want *within these restrictions with these requirements* because RMS says the other free isnt really free, and anything other then the GPL is evil.
Now then, that said, I personally use both, and if I wrote software, I can see that there would be situations where I would choose one licence over the other. They both solve different problems, and I don't get excited over licences the way I do when I can get my self some ice cream.
But what is the difference between the 9000 and the 9200? The 8x agp. Centrino doesn't provied it, so even if you put a branded 9200 in 4x, you now havea 9000, they are the same chip, only difference is that 9200 can run at 8x, 9000 doesn't.
But they are. Do you know the number of people that buy an AMD 2200 or whatnot, and expect it to run a 2.2ghz? To most people run comparable means 'runs at'. So yes, its just a model number, but so is 9000 or 9200. From what I'm seeing, its only a difference in 8x agp, so did they buy chips branded at 9200 or not? Since they're the same chip, and the only difference is that centrino dosent have 8x, it IS a 9200 or 9000, (same chip), only difference is the platform, so its not misbranded, but its the same sort of game that AMD does play with its less informed customers.
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Freedom according to RMS, ie the GPL, doesn't let me control my hard work beyond no commercial useage, and it doesn't let me profit from the sale of my work. With the GPL I can't say that rapists, or assholes or 'crazy people that tell me how to do things' arn't allowed to use my software or whatever it is I'm producing.
The only way that s right, or as was so eloquently put, "As it fucking should be" is a author or creator of a work can decide how and where their work can and can't be used.
ya I know its off topic, but for anyone to think that the way they believe things should be done is the ONLY way is not only egotistical, its also stupid and limiting.
Blackbox for Windows. Its very nice and well put together.
That was all Irix. Irix screenshots showing the Jurassic Park interface.
Fixed? really? Could you point out on the errata page where this is even mentioned, let alone patched?
I think what he means is "its just a crash rght now dont bother me untill you can show an exploit and have fixed it." It says right in the article they don't know if it will allow a system to be compromised, and it seems that until someone else checks that, he doesn't care. I was just saying that a crash might not be a crash, but Theo's attitude is a little lax in aproching the situation considering that they say right on bootup to OpenBSD the PROACTIVLY secure unix system. Not all that proactive when you don't take action to actually prevent a problem and just wait for someone to give you step-by-step how to comprimise a system.
Well no, at the moment its "just a crash" because no ones looked into it to see if it will allow code to be executed, but yes I dont believe IPv6 is in the default install.
You appear to be missing the whole problem.
This is a problem with OpenBSD's IPv6 implimentation where if you send bad data, it looks like sending something larger then expected, then the kernel will crap out on you.
The rolling your own kernel OR build your wn network stack is whats required for the REMOTE host to send these bad packets to your system and crash it.
On an unrelated note, its a little disturbing to see this as i just rebooted a OBSD 3.3 system to upgrade to 3.4, but then again, I don't run IPv6.
What I would say is most suspect is Theo's reaction "Its just a crash." You would hope someone who started a project to create the worlds most secure OS would actually care there might be a problem.
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Much easier to pronounce.
I think the real reason people buy analog watches, and in my case only ever an analog watch, is it is stylish and looks far better then any digital one. I also look at digital watches like velcro for shoes, its wearers are just far too lazy.
Does the word "Lawsuit" mean anything to you?
How dare you speak of my Sparcstations like that.
Well that lets out XP, and since MS doesn't make DOS based OS's anymore, well I guess this was Dells only choice. I understand now.
Only a SE/30, or maybe a SE should be destroyed like that, and then only if they don't work. Older then those and they're starting to become collectors items, and some people will pay well for a working 128 or 512 mac.
Ya I know, I have a soft spot for compact Mac's.
What if it was A/UX
Those "really old, really crappy sun4m" workstations make for some really fantastic systems. I was able to pick up 2 Sparcstation 10's older then he 5's you were so cruel too, on was a dual supersparc 50mhz, the other a dual hypersparc 150, each with 128mb ram, for $30 each at a used computer store here. Take out the one 50 supersparc and i have a good openbsd firewall and a spare processor if it craps out, the other Im about to install Solaris 8 on. they are getting older, but that just means that you can get some great deals on them.
You have to go really far back for these Unix workstations to really use their value.
hey cool, I had the zelda one, I think I won it or something. It was fun, better then nothing when I couldn't afford a nintendo system.
Hand that feeds them? Oh you mean the one time fee's that MS and Sun paid because, wait, its comming to me, oh ya, they licenced something from SCO. Seems to me that Sun and MS did the legal thing instead of just stealing what ever it was, or just erred on the side of caution with what could be SCO's property.
So how about backing up your wild claims before suggesting that every commercial transaction is just a conspiracy.
But he wasnt looking at the past, the artical was a little retrospective, but no ones gonna walk in and say a Mac 128 is the be all and the end all the way the amiga user in timewarp will.
however my MacSE just rocks.
/opt makes sence.
/usr should be system (network) global binaries and libraries, as in /usr could be mounted from an NFS share and every one would be happy, stuff that needs to be local to this machine or arch goes in, suprise surprise /usr/local
But still, these are system wide libraries, for instance, perhaps stuff like audiolib or vorbis libs considering the number of other apps that depend on them
/opt was well named for *optional* software, or nice stuff that isnt required. Gnome, KDE, Firebird and the like. Keeps the ssytem nice and clean, and its just not that hard writing proper $PATH statements
So you want Windows with a penguin.
Take a closer look at the revision number of the Solaris 8 that ships on this system, its the Hardware revision 5/03, (May/2003) Its been updated, and support made specifically for Solaris 8 for this machine, its about as 'old' as Solaris 9 is.
I havent used , I've only had the oppertuity to use 8 on intel, and have a older sparc here and will install 8 on it when I set it up, either way, 8 is not old (useless), and I would assume there is less OS overhead on the system being it is a little older (age) then 9 has. But again, thats only an assumption.
No No No, it wasnt the invading of Russia that what their downfall, it as invading too close to winter with a force that was unprepared for the Russian winters, while at the same time underestimating the strenth and the 'Home Field' advantage they had.
That said the winter in Utah, to the best of my knowledge isn't anything like those in Russia, so take that any way you want.
Well its more like:
BSD: Free as in the way everyone thinks about it, do what you want with it, just give credit where credit is due
GPL: Free as RMS chooses to define it. Its free, you can do what ever you want *within these restrictions with these requirements* because RMS says the other free isnt really free, and anything other then the GPL is evil.
Now then, that said, I personally use both, and if I wrote software, I can see that there would be situations where I would choose one licence over the other. They both solve different problems, and I don't get excited over licences the way I do when I can get my self some ice cream.
But what is the difference between the 9000 and the 9200? The 8x agp. Centrino doesn't provied it, so even if you put a branded 9200 in 4x, you now havea 9000, they are the same chip, only difference is that 9200 can run at 8x, 9000 doesn't.
But they are. Do you know the number of people that buy an AMD 2200 or whatnot, and expect it to run a 2.2ghz? To most people run comparable means 'runs at'. So yes, its just a model number, but so is 9000 or 9200. From what I'm seeing, its only a difference in 8x agp, so did they buy chips branded at 9200 or not? Since they're the same chip, and the only difference is that centrino dosent have 8x, it IS a 9200 or 9000, (same chip), only difference is the platform, so its not misbranded, but its the same sort of game that AMD does play with its less informed customers.