...Personally I just hate the "I know what's good for you" Apple mantra.
This is one of the things I like most about Apple. First let me say I started with Slackware in 96, moved onto Debian testing, and got my first mac about two years ago. I love open source, and support it. However, I find RMS's beliefs to be quite radical. I respect him, and his beliefs, I just think he takes them to far.
Apple manages to control how you use your Mac, and its usually a good thing. With OS X you have a consistency that you dont have with Windows or Linux. Every interface is the same. Heres an example. In windows look at the interface for Explorer, then look at the interface for Nero. They couldnt possibly be different. In Linux you have KDE, GNOME, etc etc. When you learn to do one thing on OS X you learn how to do that for everything. With consistency I know what to expect. With consistency developers know what to expect. They know what kind of hard ware I have, have a good idea how I use my mac, they know how their program will interact with others. Once everything is done, you have what is in my opinion the best computer/os that is out there. Others have other opinions, some agree, some disagree, Im just stating mine.
First it runs OS X. Maybe thats not good enough for you, and if its not, fine. For me, its a good enough reason.
Second lots of nice high end hardware. Sure, graphics cards leave a lot to be desired. But macs arnt sold to hard core gamers. You want a gaming machine? A mac is not for you.
Third they look SO nice. Rather than getting some ugly grey box, my iMac is a single piece of hardware. With wireless keyboard, wireless mouse, wireless internet I have litterly one wire, a power cable. I like that my computer looks nice.
Fourth (a bonus!) keep in mind, you may like windows, you may like linux, you may like OS X, or you may even like all three. Each person has their own preferences. Just because a mac isnt the right computer for you, doesnt mean its not the right computer for me. I hate windows. But there are those that love it. Great, it works for them and they are happy. Thats part of what makes us individuals.
My dad told me that when he was on vacation somewhere down south (past the u.s. border) the green lights would flash three times before it turned yellow. He said they had no problems with their intersections. Sounds like a good idea.
If this is a new release of KDE, then why should someone have to give up what they had with the old release? If its a beta, sure, but if its been released it needs to be completed. Everyone wines about microsoft releasing betas to everyone. What your saying is essentially someone should wait for sp3 before the email client works again.
I tried it and got a 404. So I went up the tree, and kept getting 404's until I hit the root. Then it brought up my httpd. I use a hosts file, Im guessing thats why. Weird though, I use 0.0.0.0 and not 127.0.0.1.
That says they are a good way to go, not the only way. There are other nice high end non-macs out there. I never said nor suggested otherwise. My point is because they dont make low end systems doesnt mean they are over priced. They are high end systems, so you pay a high cost.
It all depends on the hardware. I upgraded my friends daughters laptop from vista to xp, and spent three days hunting down drivers. I eventually got everything working except usb 2.0, I could only get 1.0 working. Out of everything on that laptop, usb 2.0 should have been the easiest thing to get working. I have an old lap top from 1995 in the kitchen I use for recipes and it has Debian testing and I cant get usb to work at all on it. Other hardware windows/linux ran out of the box, still again other hardware windows/linux did not run out of the box. It all depends on the hardware.
I installed windows 7, never could get the ethernet working. Ive also installed multiple distros of linux and had all the hardware working out of the box as well. Once again, your claim that a beta from microsoft is higher quality than open source could dream of is just plain silly.
Macs arnt unreasonably expensive, they are high end computers. If you want a low quality $300 computer, go get something from Dell. If you want a high end system, macs are a good way to go. Just because they dont sell cheap crap doesnt mean they are over priced. Is a Ferrari an over priced car because they dont sell the ford pinto? No, its a high end car. You want quality, you pay a lot for it. You want cheap crap, then you pay a lot less for it. Then you go on to say that a windows beta is of quality that open source couldnt dream of. How much did redmond pay you for your post?
I went pure linux (slackware, then moved to debian) back in 1996. Nine years later I got a mac. The problem with apple software on a pc, is that it uses an apple interface. I love the apples gui, in my opinion definantly better than anything else out there. However, when you put an application with an apple interface on a different system, its horrible. I agree on windows the apple interface is atrocious. Its like loading a gtk app in qt. It just doesnt look right.
Im using current Leopard version 10.5.6 that means since it was released October 2007 there has been 6 security updates (including service packs) so Im a bit baffled with what you have said.
Then you talk about the dock and mention it needs a quick launch bar, and using expose to find documents. I went pure linux back in 96, and got a mac about 2 years ago. And I have to wonder, have you ever used a mac before? The dock doesnt need a quick launch bar, its a huge over glorified quick launch bar. Expose doesnt search for files, its an over glorified alt-tab. Seriously, have you ever used a mac before?
I thought the internets ran through a series of tubes. Can someone clarify if its tubes, or pipes? Or maybe the first internet runs through a series of tubes, and the other internet runs through a series of pipes. These internets are so confusing!
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...Personally I just hate the "I know what's good for you" Apple mantra.
This is one of the things I like most about Apple. First let me say I started with Slackware in 96, moved onto Debian testing, and got my first mac about two years ago. I love open source, and support it. However, I find RMS's beliefs to be quite radical. I respect him, and his beliefs, I just think he takes them to far.
Apple manages to control how you use your Mac, and its usually a good thing. With OS X you have a consistency that you dont have with Windows or Linux. Every interface is the same. Heres an example. In windows look at the interface for Explorer, then look at the interface for Nero. They couldnt possibly be different. In Linux you have KDE, GNOME, etc etc. When you learn to do one thing on OS X you learn how to do that for everything. With consistency I know what to expect. With consistency developers know what to expect. They know what kind of hard ware I have, have a good idea how I use my mac, they know how their program will interact with others. Once everything is done, you have what is in my opinion the best computer/os that is out there. Others have other opinions, some agree, some disagree, Im just stating mine.
Its been years since anyone has actually sold usb 1.0 motherboard/laptop. USB 2.0 is the safest assumption you can make.
How do I mod this +1 testosterone?
I think Chef made the case for what makes a prostitute different from a non prostitute.
"No, you don't pay her to stay, you pay her to leave afterwards." - Chef
A good way to describe an iMac is like a laptop with a stand.
Three reasons
First it runs OS X. Maybe thats not good enough for you, and if its not, fine. For me, its a good enough reason.
Second lots of nice high end hardware. Sure, graphics cards leave a lot to be desired. But macs arnt sold to hard core gamers. You want a gaming machine? A mac is not for you.
Third they look SO nice. Rather than getting some ugly grey box, my iMac is a single piece of hardware. With wireless keyboard, wireless mouse, wireless internet I have litterly one wire, a power cable. I like that my computer looks nice.
Fourth (a bonus!) keep in mind, you may like windows, you may like linux, you may like OS X, or you may even like all three. Each person has their own preferences. Just because a mac isnt the right computer for you, doesnt mean its not the right computer for me. I hate windows. But there are those that love it. Great, it works for them and they are happy. Thats part of what makes us individuals.
You need to add the 'this is for educational purposes only' disclaimer. It makes you bullet proof against the law :P~
My dad told me that when he was on vacation somewhere down south (past the u.s. border) the green lights would flash three times before it turned yellow. He said they had no problems with their intersections. Sounds like a good idea.
If this is a new release of KDE, then why should someone have to give up what they had with the old release? If its a beta, sure, but if its been released it needs to be completed. Everyone wines about microsoft releasing betas to everyone. What your saying is essentially someone should wait for sp3 before the email client works again.
Where can I find those comparisons?
I tried it and got a 404. So I went up the tree, and kept getting 404's until I hit the root. Then it brought up my httpd. I use a hosts file, Im guessing thats why. Weird though, I use 0.0.0.0 and not 127.0.0.1.
...macs are a good way to go
That says they are a good way to go, not the only way. There are other nice high end non-macs out there. I never said nor suggested otherwise. My point is because they dont make low end systems doesnt mean they are over priced. They are high end systems, so you pay a high cost.
It all depends on the hardware. I upgraded my friends daughters laptop from vista to xp, and spent three days hunting down drivers. I eventually got everything working except usb 2.0, I could only get 1.0 working. Out of everything on that laptop, usb 2.0 should have been the easiest thing to get working. I have an old lap top from 1995 in the kitchen I use for recipes and it has Debian testing and I cant get usb to work at all on it. Other hardware windows/linux ran out of the box, still again other hardware windows/linux did not run out of the box. It all depends on the hardware.
Very obvious that you are not a mac tech, also very obvious you have never used a mac before.
I installed windows 7, never could get the ethernet working. Ive also installed multiple distros of linux and had all the hardware working out of the box as well. Once again, your claim that a beta from microsoft is higher quality than open source could dream of is just plain silly.
Macs arnt unreasonably expensive, they are high end computers. If you want a low quality $300 computer, go get something from Dell. If you want a high end system, macs are a good way to go. Just because they dont sell cheap crap doesnt mean they are over priced. Is a Ferrari an over priced car because they dont sell the ford pinto? No, its a high end car. You want quality, you pay a lot for it. You want cheap crap, then you pay a lot less for it. Then you go on to say that a windows beta is of quality that open source couldnt dream of. How much did redmond pay you for your post?
Excellent idea. I wish I had mod points for you.
I went pure linux (slackware, then moved to debian) back in 1996. Nine years later I got a mac. The problem with apple software on a pc, is that it uses an apple interface. I love the apples gui, in my opinion definantly better than anything else out there. However, when you put an application with an apple interface on a different system, its horrible. I agree on windows the apple interface is atrocious. Its like loading a gtk app in qt. It just doesnt look right.
...just as annoying with updates
Im using current Leopard version 10.5.6 that means since it was released October 2007 there has been 6 security updates (including service packs) so Im a bit baffled with what you have said.
Then you talk about the dock and mention it needs a quick launch bar, and using expose to find documents. I went pure linux back in 96, and got a mac about 2 years ago. And I have to wonder, have you ever used a mac before? The dock doesnt need a quick launch bar, its a huge over glorified quick launch bar. Expose doesnt search for files, its an over glorified alt-tab. Seriously, have you ever used a mac before?
Why does time capsule suck?
I know they are different companies, but I wish rockstar (take two whoever it is) would remove the drm from GTA IV for the pc.
I thought the internets ran through a series of tubes. Can someone clarify if its tubes, or pipes? Or maybe the first internet runs through a series of tubes, and the other internet runs through a series of pipes. These internets are so confusing!
Glad you caught that.
You can use '' to imbed output to a command. Example
// Output would give you a long listing of wherever gcc is located
ls -l 'locate gcc'
Another one is using -exec "{}" ";" with find, example.
find ~/tvshows -name doctor\*who\* -exec mplayer -fs "{}" ";"
The "{}" is the filename, not sure about ";" but its needed.
So Snow Leopard is going to be slower than Leopard?