Shawn Fanning is an idiot. This is not a troll. He releases a PTP system that is so inherently unthought out and stupidly illegal and try to make a go of it. He wrote a program in VB that was what it was because he couldn't implement anything more complex. Sure, some of the beauty of Napster was its simplicity. But this is also the reason we are in a jam with PTP systems like we are today. Without Napster we would not have the RIAA court cases. We would have Gnutella systems, Bit Torrent etc free from lawyers and everyone would be happy.
Napster was a lowest common denominator PTP system. It stole MP3's. Many people thought of simple systems like this that the masses could use but most knew better than to damage PTP credibility before this. Writing a Napster program in VB would take a few days at best. Not that his idea wasn't what counts, it is and simple is usually better. But in his case there was no way around it. Napster was made to steal music. At least with Hotline and similar technologies you could say it had other purposes and in some cases make other purposes for it.
Napster has caused so many problems with legit PTP systems. My problem with it was it was so flagrant. It was a dumb mans PTP system and it brought attention to other areas that otherwise didn't want it.
Now, I probably sound like I am hating on Napster because now it's harder for me to steal things. Well, it's not harder for to steal things so you can rule that out. But, I know systems are being monitored closely now and the general public knows what a PTP system is, well sort of. I download some music I don't own. I use free software so I don't need to pirate that. But now I can get a huge fine if I D/L a song from the wrong person. I blame Napster for this. Not for me D/Ling things, but for being so stupid, flagrant and blatantly illegal about it they fucked it up for everyone.
Hell yeah! Although, it wouldn't be that fast as they would need plenty of time to calculate moves I'm sure. What would happen if 2 identical programs were to compete? Draw?
On the other hand it might be about as interesting as watching a video game play itself in the arcade.
When I type openssl version into the terminal on OS X, it returns: OpenSSL 0.9.6i
Which is lower than 0.9.7. The article said you were vulnerable if you had a version lower than that. Time to self update I guess. I'm surprised Apple has never updated this, and yes I am using 10.2.8 currently.
More so for hardware and lower level programming. Things like decoders for instance. If you have an 8 X 1024 decode used to calculate addresses in memory it's easier to refer to that as a kilobyte. A decoder like that takes in 10 bits and has 1024 outputs where one of those outputs is triggered by the 10 bit combination of numbers. So, you would either be wasting memory or it would be a pain to label. Instead of saying you had 1K of RAM, you w0uld now have 1K + 4 bytes. It's simply easier to refer to it as 1K.
Perhaps then we should change 1024 bytes so that it has some other prefix instead of kilo. Maybe name them after famous computer scientests or something.
But, the point is hardware and low level programming (more so than high level languages such as C++) works out such that 1K is 2^10.
"The solution is to make kilobytes officially be 1000 bytes.."
This would be bad. If you where to make 1K = 1000 bytes you would have a remainder when dealing with a word of 32 or 64 bits for instance. The fact that our word sizes are powers of 2 means that our larger unit size has to be powers of 2. From a consumer standpoint it makes sense to make 1K = 1000 bytes and so on, but from a computer viewpoint, it's best to leave it as is. All in all, people should research what a kilobyte is (in terms of how many bytes it is) before they become experts in storage capacities for computers.
Yeah, I thought about methods for doing that, but eventually someone is sending you a packet that can be read from the buffer and easily decoded to see whom is sending this file. No?
Is this accurate? Isn't this built into IPv6 that most systems use today and if not, it is built into the older IP standards, all part of the TCP/IP layers. I thought you would have to modify the kernel to make it such that a packet sent to your computer could not be traced back. And even if you do remove that part of TCP/IP protocol, the very next hop will attach it's IP so your IP is never more than 1 hop away. I should read their methods first I guess (proxy servers?), but if you send it, someone, somewhere, can trace it back to you.
That's why I think they should give a refund to people who feel slighted by their software, Then the users should switch to a more stable, secure platform like Linux. Windows is what it is. It is well documented how bad it is, it is up to the consumer to make up their mind wether all of its shortcomings are factored out by its benefits. (are there any besides games?)
It shouldn't be held to the same liabilities as an automobile. An automobile has the potential to hurt or kill people in it if it has defects. It is the responsibility of the auto company to make sure their cars will not hurt people due to their engineering flaws. In the case of Windows, no one is stopping you from using another operating system if theirs is not stable enough for your use. I think you should be able to get a refund if their software doesn't do what it says it can and then move to Linux, OS X or whatever else you would like to use. Suing MS for bad software is like saying you cannot use something else. I use something else so why can't California?
Yeah, but then it would have to be 10.2.8.1 or 10.2.6.A or something similar and that just ruins the whole thing! Then again, you could have downloaded the new SSH code and compiled one for yourself, it's not a kernal moduale. With that, I suppose Apple could have released it as just a security update and been done with it so yes I agree you are right.
Yeah, you would think so but the software process is a complicated one and mistakes do happen. It's appropiate if it is of rare occurance and can be fixed in a timely manner, this is of course for systems that are not designtated mission critical, such as consumer operating systems such as Mac OS X.
Yeah, I still love SOD myself. Had a cassette of theirs at some point, ehich qualifies me for a free MP3 download of their album. (I think they only had one...had like 20 songs on it)
...we would protest more if when we all get together and tried to do anything the wouldn't game lag...lag some more and finally sbexe out. (For those of you lucky enough to never have to experiance the sb exe error, it's a fatal error resulting in the process being removed from memory, aka a crash)
Anyone know if it's gotten better. Haven't played in a few weeks but have heard from a friend it is a bit better, probably due to the fact enough people have left where the server side has a lighter load it can handle, not that there was ever enough players to have what should be considered a large load under these cirsumstances.
There should be a contect for sys admins,....you get a Linux server and an account...they "bug" it somehow....give you an idea of whats going on and have you locate patches, remove/add files, kill things etc...all the fun things a sys-admin has to do...and generally quickly. Of course it wouldn't be a good measure of how great a sys-admin someone is, but would be fun for peeps none the less.
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Design a compentent system. This CEO should be fired.
This just in, using capital letters by not using CAPS LOCK results in 20 years of jail.
SunnComm is a joke, hope it and all of its evil employees lose thier jobs.
Shawn Fanning is an idiot. This is not a troll. He releases a PTP system that is so inherently unthought out and stupidly illegal and try to make a go of it. He wrote a program in VB that was what it was because he couldn't implement anything more complex. Sure, some of the beauty of Napster was its simplicity. But this is also the reason we are in a jam with PTP systems like we are today. Without Napster we would not have the RIAA court cases. We would have Gnutella systems, Bit Torrent etc free from lawyers and everyone would be happy.
Napster was a lowest common denominator PTP system. It stole MP3's. Many people thought of simple systems like this that the masses could use but most knew better than to damage PTP credibility before this. Writing a Napster program in VB would take a few days at best. Not that his idea wasn't what counts, it is and simple is usually better. But in his case there was no way around it. Napster was made to steal music. At least with Hotline and similar technologies you could say it had other purposes and in some cases make other purposes for it.
Napster has caused so many problems with legit PTP systems. My problem with it was it was so flagrant. It was a dumb mans PTP system and it brought attention to other areas that otherwise didn't want it.
Now, I probably sound like I am hating on Napster because now it's harder for me to steal things. Well, it's not harder for to steal things so you can rule that out. But, I know systems are being monitored closely now and the general public knows what a PTP system is, well sort of. I download some music I don't own. I use free software so I don't need to pirate that. But now I can get a huge fine if I D/L a song from the wrong person. I blame Napster for this. Not for me D/Ling things, but for being so stupid, flagrant and blatantly illegal about it they fucked it up for everyone.
Hell yeah! Although, it wouldn't be that fast as they would need plenty of time to calculate moves I'm sure. What would happen if 2 identical programs were to compete? Draw?
On the other hand it might be about as interesting as watching a video game play itself in the arcade.
When I type openssl version into the terminal on OS X, it returns :
OpenSSL 0.9.6i
Which is lower than 0.9.7. The article said you were vulnerable if you had a version lower than that. Time to self update I guess. I'm surprised Apple has never updated this, and yes I am using 10.2.8 currently.
More so for hardware and lower level programming. Things like decoders for instance. If you have an 8 X 1024 decode used to calculate addresses in memory it's easier to refer to that as a kilobyte. A decoder like that takes in 10 bits and has 1024 outputs where one of those outputs is triggered by the 10 bit combination of numbers. So, you would either be wasting memory or it would be a pain to label. Instead of saying you had 1K of RAM, you w0uld now have 1K + 4 bytes. It's simply easier to refer to it as 1K.
Perhaps then we should change 1024 bytes so that it has some other prefix instead of kilo. Maybe name them after famous computer scientests or something.
But, the point is hardware and low level programming (more so than high level languages such as C++) works out such that 1K is 2^10.
"The solution is to make kilobytes officially be 1000 bytes.."
This would be bad. If you where to make 1K = 1000 bytes you would have a remainder when dealing with a word of 32 or 64 bits for instance. The fact that our word sizes are powers of 2 means that our larger unit size has to be powers of 2. From a consumer standpoint it makes sense to make 1K = 1000 bytes and so on, but from a computer viewpoint, it's best to leave it as is. All in all, people should research what a kilobyte is (in terms of how many bytes it is) before they become experts in storage capacities for computers.
IPv4, sorry :)
Yeah, I thought about methods for doing that, but eventually someone is sending you a packet that can be read from the buffer and easily decoded to see whom is sending this file. No?
Is this accurate? Isn't this built into IPv6 that most systems use today and if not, it is built into the older IP standards, all part of the TCP/IP layers. I thought you would have to modify the kernel to make it such that a packet sent to your computer could not be traced back. And even if you do remove that part of TCP/IP protocol, the very next hop will attach it's IP so your IP is never more than 1 hop away. I should read their methods first I guess (proxy servers?), but if you send it, someone, somewhere, can trace it back to you.
Open your code base up and we'll have a look.
That's why I think they should give a refund to people who feel slighted by their software, Then the users should switch to a more stable, secure platform like Linux. Windows is what it is. It is well documented how bad it is, it is up to the consumer to make up their mind wether all of its shortcomings are factored out by its benefits. (are there any besides games?)
It shouldn't be held to the same liabilities as an automobile. An automobile has the potential to hurt or kill people in it if it has defects. It is the responsibility of the auto company to make sure their cars will not hurt people due to their engineering flaws. In the case of Windows, no one is stopping you from using another operating system if theirs is not stable enough for your use. I think you should be able to get a refund if their software doesn't do what it says it can and then move to Linux, OS X or whatever else you would like to use. Suing MS for bad software is like saying you cannot use something else. I use something else so why can't California?
But the sould still burns.
God damn it, this is the silliest argument ever. ;P
Not in decimal. .1 is the same as .10, if you want a 10 then after .9 you get .2
It's silly and I have seen software with 5.34.1, so yeah 10.2.10 would work, but this is all very silly.
What I was referring to was that 10.2.10 is the same as 10.2.1
Downloadin and installing SSH will not effect any future OS upgrades. It's not a kernal leval patch, just a program patch.
Ha ha, one of the better trolls I've ever seen. rofl.
Now that would be confusing, going from 10.2.60 back to 10.2.10. 10.2.6.1 would work though.
Yeah, but then it would have to be 10.2.8.1 or 10.2.6.A or something similar and that just ruins the whole thing! Then again, you could have downloaded the new SSH code and compiled one for yourself, it's not a kernal moduale. With that, I suppose Apple could have released it as just a security update and been done with it so yes I agree you are right.
Yeah, you would think so but the software process is a complicated one and mistakes do happen. It's appropiate if it is of rare occurance and can be fixed in a timely manner, this is of course for systems that are not designtated mission critical, such as consumer operating systems such as Mac OS X.
Yeah, I still love SOD myself. Had a cassette of theirs at some point, ehich qualifies me for a free MP3 download of their album. (I think they only had one...had like 20 songs on it)
Man, those were the days. Pre-Anthrax, rofl.
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What does sod mean in the dirst place? I have heard it in songs etc from UK bands but just assumed they had a passion for lawn care,
...we would protest more if when we all get together and tried to do anything the wouldn't game lag...lag some more and finally sbexe out. (For those of you lucky enough to never have to experiance the sb exe error, it's a fatal error resulting in the process being removed from memory, aka a crash)
Anyone know if it's gotten better. Haven't played in a few weeks but have heard from a friend it is a bit better, probably due to the fact enough people have left where the server side has a lighter load it can handle, not that there was ever enough players to have what should be considered a large load under these cirsumstances.
My Debian distro as well as my Mac laptop will be OK I think. The soul still burns.
You know you love scaring us!
There should be a contect for sys admins,....you get a Linux server and an account...they "bug" it somehow....give you an idea of whats going on and have you locate patches, remove/add files, kill things etc...all the fun things a sys-admin has to do...and generally quickly. Of course it wouldn't be a good measure of how great a sys-admin someone is, but would be fun for peeps none the less.