This stuff doesn't have to happen at the expense of the GUI either. My impression has been that Terminal.app is more of an accident than an accepted member of the operating system.
bash is the default shell as of Tiger. Your impressions seemed to be based off of Panther.
OS X also has standard directory locations. The unix stuff even sits in standard unix directories (peek into/etc or/bin, for example). Mac-specific stuff is simply stored in a different (non-unix) set of directories than you're used to.
I spend much of my day, every day, in Terminal.app. Works great for me. Love the fact that you can resize the window and long lines reflow themselves. What, exactly, do you not like about the Terminal other than its lack of tabs pre-Leopard?
I'll have to agree with you on Page-up/down, home, and end buttons. They simply work differently on the Mac. I don't use any command-line programs that expects to see those buttons, so it doesn't bother me much. The equivalent of home and end while editing text is command-left and command-right, by the way.
3. Speaking of search, maybe I'm just an idiot, but I don't know how to get emacs to search through the document based on some pattern I just happen to have in the copy buffer. This is infuriating to type ctrl-s and not be able to spit into the mini-buffer whatever text you've already got in the copy buffer.
"Paste", though it's "Yank" in emacs.
Just to be crystal clear, bring up search and paste your "pattern" in:
Someone on a slashdot post or blog somewhere posted instructions on how to build and install carbon emacs from CVS. I've used it on my PowerBook, and two MacBook Pro's (Core Duo, then Core 2 Duo) with great success.
Here's the instructions I saved:
mkdir ~/tmp cd ~/tmp cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/emacs co emacs cd emacs./configure --enable-carbon-app make bootstrap make sudo make install
Then I put the following in my.bashrc so that I can easily launch it from the command-line. The best part is that when you launch it in the background with a file argument, emacs grabs focus when it comes up. The emacs that requires Apple's X11 would never come to the front on launch.
alias emacs="/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emac s -g 110x40 --no-splash"
(you may want to adjust the columns and width from 110 and 40 to your own preference)
NOTE: I haven't tried this since 22 was officially released.
It's never kernel panic'd my MBPro C2D. Ok, that's not true. When I installed the version from the CD that was released before Core-2-duo's were out, that went straight to a kernel panic. But none of the post-C2D Parallels releases has given me a kernel panic on my MBPro. Nor has it ever kernel panic'd on my 20" iMac C2D at home. I run quite a few different programs, in OS X and Windows.
What, exactly, are the symptoms of your problems and what have you tried?
Anecdotally...
In my experience, I had to spend 11 hours on the phone with Dell (about 90% of that time on hold) talking to four different people during ONE DAY to convince them to RMA a DVD drive that wouldn't read DVD's. Thank heavens for speaker-phones. Of course, that was as a home user in 2001.
In contrast, as a home user of an Apple keyboard that had problems last year, I called Apple and got to a real person in about a minute (including the phone tree), who had an RMA sent out immediately. Total time on phone? Less that 10 minutes.
Here, let me reverse my comment and see if it still gets modded "offtopic": -------- I suppose, "Sorry, only Slashdot-approved comments" would have been an even more appropriate error message for this article...
The standard error message here is so often appropriate. Tell me, is there a guide for creating these sorts of profound error messages?
e.g. "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."
I tried to pick up a DS lite lately. I can't find one in my area. They tell me they've been out of DS's since before Christmas. And Wii's? Ya, right. I have one friend who allegedly has a friend that was able to snag one. Other than that, vaporware.
Sheeple: n, people who tend to act like sheep. Contraction of sheep and people. ex. Listen up, sheeple! I want you all working 'til midnight tonight so you can make me look good for the presentation tomorrow.
Good point. NeXT was very advanced. I actually left it out thinking "well, most people don't know about NeXT". What am I, crazy? This is SLASHDOT! Of COURSE everyone knows about it!
Slashdot Mirror
This stuff doesn't have to happen at the expense of the GUI either. My impression has been that Terminal.app is more of an accident than an accepted member of the operating system.
bash is the default shell as of Tiger. Your impressions seemed to be based off of Panther.
OS X also has standard directory locations. The unix stuff even sits in standard unix directories (peek into
I spend much of my day, every day, in Terminal.app. Works great for me. Love the fact that you can resize the window and long lines reflow themselves. What, exactly, do you not like about the Terminal other than its lack of tabs pre-Leopard?
I'll have to agree with you on Page-up/down, home, and end buttons. They simply work differently on the Mac. I don't use any command-line programs that expects to see those buttons, so it doesn't bother me much. The equivalent of home and end while editing text is command-left and command-right, by the way.
Lead. I mean, it protects Superman from kryptonite, doesn't it?
and it seems to be working great so far. Noticeably more responsive that Firefox scrolling up and down slashdot pages.
> can lift 135kg (500 lbs.)
Wow. But the last time I checked, 135kg * 2.205 lb./kg ~= 298 lbs.
Where'd the extra 202 lbs. come from?
You can check out the CVS version and build it yourself following these instructions.
That's by far the best way to use it on OS X that I have ever found.
"Paste", though it's "Yank" in emacs.
Just to be crystal clear, bring up search and paste your "pattern" in:
ctrl-s ctrl-y
Someone on a slashdot post or blog somewhere posted instructions on how to build and install carbon emacs from CVS. I've used it on my PowerBook, and two MacBook Pro's (Core Duo, then Core 2 Duo) with great success.
s co emacs ./configure --enable-carbon-app
.bashrc so that I can easily launch it from the command-line. The best part is that when you launch it in the background with a file argument, emacs grabs focus when it comes up. The emacs that requires Apple's X11 would never come to the front on launch.
c s -g 110x40 --no-splash"
Here's the instructions I saved:
mkdir ~/tmp
cd ~/tmp
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sv.gnu.org:/sources/emac
cd emacs
make bootstrap
make
sudo make install
Then I put the following in my
alias emacs="/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Ema
(you may want to adjust the columns and width from 110 and 40 to your own preference)
NOTE: I haven't tried this since 22 was officially released.
It's never kernel panic'd my MBPro C2D. Ok, that's not true. When I installed the version from the CD that was released before Core-2-duo's were out, that went straight to a kernel panic. But none of the post-C2D Parallels releases has given me a kernel panic on my MBPro. Nor has it ever kernel panic'd on my 20" iMac C2D at home. I run quite a few different programs, in OS X and Windows.
We really ought to send a ship out to investigate. Better not include any unnamed ensigns, though, or they might meet with disaster.
Own up, Wesley, we all know you were really attempting the Kolvoord Starburst maneuver!
Let me be one of the first to say that this story is so off-base that it will likely never be referenced by anyone in the future.
Free. Online. Best typing course in ANY language that I've ever had.
abcd = A Basic Course in Dvorak
http://gigliwood.com/abcd/abcd.html
What, exactly, are the symptoms of your problems and what have you tried?
Anecdotally...
In my experience, I had to spend 11 hours on the phone with Dell (about 90% of that time on hold) talking to four different people during ONE DAY to convince them to RMA a DVD drive that wouldn't read DVD's. Thank heavens for speaker-phones. Of course, that was as a home user in 2001.
In contrast, as a home user of an Apple keyboard that had problems last year, I called Apple and got to a real person in about a minute (including the phone tree), who had an RMA sent out immediately. Total time on phone? Less that 10 minutes.
Here, let me reverse my comment and see if it still gets modded "offtopic":
--------
I suppose, "Sorry, only Slashdot-approved comments" would have been an even more appropriate error message for this article...
The standard error message here is so often appropriate. Tell me, is there a guide for creating these sorts of profound error messages?
e.g. "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."
Stupid people live outside the US too, you insensitive clod!
"Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."
So often appropriate. Tell me, is there a guide for creating these sorts of profound error messages?
I suppose, "Sorry, only Slashdot-approved comments" would have been an even more appropriate error message for this article...
I predict that InterPlaNet will be a success as long as Blizzard puts a WoW server on Mars for the "locals."
Am I the only one that misread that as "an interview with Jens Axboe, 15 year old Linux veteran" ?
Kmart??? You're right. That's the last place I would have expected to get a DS lite. I'll have to check that out, thanks.
How can the Wii be an "established fixture" when most of us who want one haven't even been able to see one in person yet?
I tried to pick up a DS lite lately. I can't find one in my area. They tell me they've been out of DS's since before Christmas. And Wii's? Ya, right. I have one friend who allegedly has a friend that was able to snag one. Other than that, vaporware.
C'mon Nintendo, ramp up production already!!!
> what they most need is sheeple
Sheeple! That's my new word for the day.
Sheeple: n, people who tend to act like sheep. Contraction of sheep and people. ex. Listen up, sheeple! I want you all working 'til midnight tonight so you can make me look good for the presentation tomorrow.
Mmmm. Sheeple.
Good point. NeXT was very advanced. I actually left it out thinking "well, most people don't know about NeXT". What am I, crazy? This is SLASHDOT! Of COURSE everyone knows about it!
I'll vote with my wallet. I pledge to buy at least 2 games on my iPhone.
Even more convincing, Pixar with Steve didn't do so bad.