Conformity : Proudly serving painfully boring people since time began....
geeks are misfits, not some social group you can mobilize, the more mainstream the issue the more support you will lose and the more fragmentation you will see. The authors' failure to understand, just highlights the fact that he's not a geek but a suit trying to be cool. The sub-culture WAS NEVER tied together by commonality but by opposition of the homogenization of culture. Here this 'guest' editor is bemoaning the lack of just such a thing.... The counter culture is STILL there they've just shunned the icons proposed for them by the 'man' and those that would make a buck of them.
"Should I believe you over him?"... errr... what point is it we are disagreeing on here ? perhaps you should read the parent, and disregard my habit of hyperbole. I am a Win2K user and actually like it. I also use Solaris, Debian, and NCR and like them as well for the purpose they serve. I was responding to a comment that M$ software was NOT getting better and disputing that. I stand by my comment regarding programmers, Bill Gates is sharp but he's got MUCH better working for him.
remember when directx was the red headed step child we all loved to bash...now it is the standard, and unfortunatly opengl is losing ground. Give M$ 10 or 15 tries and they will get it right, or at least close to it... Win2k is an exponential improvement to any M$ OS before. They still have MILES to go mind you but a million Bill Gates pounding on a million keyboards will eventually produce some solid code, and M$ has programmers much brighter than BG working for them.
was not intending to troll but I am not an apple user as tyou might have guessed, I keep forgetting they make, or at least brand much of thier own hardware. Do they actually manufacture it or is that 3rd party work ? I was under the impression motorola did most of the dirty work and apple just labeled it...Shows you what I know.
err what OS company has stood up and said they want DRM ?!?! Wake up folks ONLY the hardware vendors have done that, evem M$ has agreed to make DRM optional, they are venal, greedy and immoral, but not stupid. One does not amass that much money being stupid. By ensuring the presence of DRM capabilities M$ keeps their large corporate customers, who are TERRIFIED of a law suit over pirated software or music or somthing even more trivial, while allowing it to be turned off they try and keep face with the consumer market. What is going to really HURT is when our IGNORANT LAWMAKERS decide (are payed to vote) to REQUIRE DRM. The big issue is the hardware vendors, AMD/INTEL who've both rolled over and played dead like good little doggies. Where are we going to get non-crippled parts and such ?? Any Open Source hardware projects out there:(
who says they can't tell its you...a fish-eye lens can capture quite and angle, a couple of cameras working together could EASILY ID any subject. I agree the point is the HIDDEN nature of the camera's. Post signs stating that low angle cameras are present and all this goes away. It is not the taking of pictures so much as trying to hide the fact. All that aside this is rather low morally. Why I am suprised by it I don't know but humans are without a doubt the lowest and the highest creatures on earth....
not that I am knocking you but do you have numbers to back up this claim...I fully agree that IDC and Gartner OFTEN have ulterior motives but a 10% difference is SIGNIFICANT.
No you can buy aftermarket Ford parts from several companies. By the strictest definition Apple is not a monopoly but certainly uses monopolistic tactics, but then name a corp. besides the corporation for public broadcasting that doesn't ?
ATI has yet to get the drivers right....The issue list is LONG and they've started out where they left off with the 8500 and some really lousy driver support. I like the card, but getting all the bells and whistles to work is nearly impossible. The capture drivers have issues, NWN has MAJOR issues with this card, but it is quick, and I keep hoping ATI will get thier act together driver wise...SOON PLS...
this is very different...this is knowingly hiding a flaw vs a 'code error'. I have not yet spoken to legal but I am willing to bet there is a HUGE difference, and that they will notify their large corporate customers. It is just the small business's and end users that are gonna get Farked on this but I will post in my journal a repsonse if I am allowed on Monday...
A far as click thru agreements go, they've barely been tested in court and as IANAL I'll reserve judgement. We've recently been exploring the legal ramifications of email retention...Lawyers could make falling off a log dificult if there was a dollar to be made at it...
if the vendor knows of a vulnerability and DOES NOT disclose it to US, YOU can expect to see us in court very soon, M$ or not. As far as making the whole exploit and gruesome details known to the public I can agree that it might be overkill and help the script kiddies, but letting your customers fly blind is criminal when you know better. We've already dropped IIS because of M$'s inability to keep it secure in the face of poor design, if they keep it up we'll begin dropping other components.
and reading the comment would be beyond yours ? The catalyst drivers that support the 9700 were NOT available on the support site for almost 2 weeks after I got the card. The wonderful ATI support page has *required* validated fields that did not EVEN INCLUDE the 9700 for nearly 2 weeks after they began marketing it. I guess I shouldn't feed the trolls....
I will echo the above AC's comments LOUDLY and logged in. I've got a ti-4600 and a radeon 9700 pro, the Radeon is a better faster board, that has bugs in places I've never even considered. The 4600 is rock solid and compliant. ATI has yet to realize that a video card IS the drivers. ATI support is slow to respond, they often send the wrong info out, heck they did not even have drivers up for the 9700 for nearly 2 weeks after issue. My cd arrived damaged and I had to plead on IRC to get someone to let me ftp the drivers... I hope ATI gets it together but how long have people been saying that ?
but I teleconference ALOT, and surround sound would actually KICK BUTT. On a phone meeting with 18 people any sort of directional focus would help. Beyond that and my MP3 collection, what other uses ? anyone ?
Ooooo I NEED THX boss, for a proper development environment:)
I did not read the article but is the site in question, the one with the 'bad' link hosted on school equipment ? beyond that possible caveat I agree with you...security through obscurity DOES not work. Why should national safety through ignorance work either ? The one definite outcome of 09/11 is the emergence of the barely repressed american facism....I am proud to be an american citizen, but sometimes our actions embarass us all:(
go man go...you think the registry is bad..check out the win2k Active directory..sheesh..
coming from a Unix world to M$ I see advantages and dis-ads for both side, but I will say under Unix, the average admin scripted and coded to a much greater degree than the windows admins I work with today. Not to imply lack of knowledge but the interface under unix encourages batch scripting while M$ does the opposite utilizing the GUI interface. For just one example look at formating disks..if you want a non-standard format you have to go to cli.
there seems to be a push by motorola into the imbeded and kiosk market. Motorola cpus appear all over the in lots of devices other than computers. The market being what it is/has been it might not have been such a bad idea...
I suggested Apple needs to do this yesterday in a thread and was called a troll and stupid.... Put OSX on a pentium and watch XP die a quick death. Even if it costs apple the office suite, given a year that will be all M$ has to offer and they will be porting it for anyone willing to pay.
They are wasting their effort and time on a STUPID issue, but hey it is a free world... I doubt I will ever call it anything but Linux, anymore than I am likely to add some lame corporate name to the heisman trophy, of to refer to SF Giants stadium as some companies name as well....
more power to them, it gives a stable system, but if they start using the lousy console control setup by default, ala tomb raider, then GoodNIGHT. Sooner or later the software is going to STOP just getting bigger, and get more efficient, we'll be able to use a VM of sometype and play cross platform, until then PC gamers are just gonna have to put up some $'s. I always pay for games, I even bought some Linux version of games I already had, not that it helped any:(
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Conformity : Proudly serving painfully boring people since time began....
geeks are misfits, not some social group you can mobilize, the more mainstream the issue the more support you will lose and the more fragmentation you will see. The authors' failure to understand, just highlights the fact that he's not a geek but a suit trying to be cool. The sub-culture WAS NEVER tied together by commonality but by opposition of the homogenization of culture. Here this 'guest' editor is bemoaning the lack of just such a thing....
The counter culture is STILL there they've just shunned the icons proposed for them by the 'man' and those that would make a buck of them.
TGIF, and rant off......
"Should I believe you over him?"...
errr...
what point is it we are disagreeing on here ? perhaps you should read the parent, and disregard my habit of hyperbole. I am a Win2K user and actually like it. I also use Solaris, Debian, and NCR and like them as well for the purpose they serve. I was responding to a comment that M$ software was NOT getting better and disputing that. I stand by my comment regarding programmers, Bill Gates is sharp but he's got MUCH better working for him.
"Silly poster, comments are for literate users"
for hours now here in SF. Thought it was just my employer but I feel better now.
remember when directx was the red headed step child we all loved to bash...now it is the standard, and unfortunatly opengl is losing ground. Give M$ 10 or 15 tries and they will get it right, or at least close to it...
Win2k is an exponential improvement to any M$ OS before. They still have MILES to go mind you but a million Bill Gates pounding on a million keyboards will eventually produce some solid code, and M$ has programmers much brighter than BG working for them.
was not intending to troll but I am not an apple user as tyou might have guessed, I keep forgetting they make, or at least brand much of thier own hardware. Do they actually manufacture it or is that 3rd party work ? I was under the impression motorola did most of the dirty work and apple just labeled it...Shows you what I know.
err what OS company has stood up and said they want DRM ?!?! Wake up folks ONLY the hardware vendors have done that, evem M$ has agreed to make DRM optional, they are venal, greedy and immoral, but not stupid. One does not amass that much money being stupid. By ensuring the presence of DRM capabilities M$ keeps their large corporate customers, who are TERRIFIED of a law suit over pirated software or music or somthing even more trivial, while allowing it to be turned off they try and keep face with the consumer market. What is going to really HURT is when our IGNORANT LAWMAKERS decide (are payed to vote) to REQUIRE DRM. The big issue is the hardware vendors, AMD/INTEL who've both rolled over and played dead like good little doggies. Where are we going to get non-crippled parts and such ?? :(
Any Open Source hardware projects out there
who says they can't tell its you...a fish-eye lens can capture quite and angle, a couple of cameras working together could EASILY ID any subject. I agree the point is the HIDDEN nature of the camera's. Post signs stating that low angle cameras are present and all this goes away. It is not the taking of pictures so much as trying to hide the fact.
All that aside this is rather low morally. Why I am suprised by it I don't know but humans are without a doubt the lowest and the highest creatures on earth....
not that I am knocking you but do you have numbers to back up this claim...I fully agree that IDC and Gartner OFTEN have ulterior motives but a 10% difference is SIGNIFICANT.
I stand corrected, thanks Max....
No you can buy aftermarket Ford parts from several companies. By the strictest definition Apple is not a monopoly but certainly uses monopolistic tactics, but then name a corp. besides the corporation for public broadcasting that doesn't ?
ATI has yet to get the drivers right....The issue list is LONG and they've started out where they left off with the 8500 and some really lousy driver support. I like the card, but getting all the bells and whistles to work is nearly impossible. The capture drivers have issues, NWN has MAJOR issues with this card, but it is quick, and I keep hoping ATI will get thier act together driver wise...SOON PLS...
OH Please Glen Yarbough deserves death for that heretical animated pyle of crap. The only good part was the orc whip song...
this is very different...this is knowingly hiding a flaw vs a 'code error'. I have not yet spoken to legal but I am willing to bet there is a HUGE difference, and that they will notify their large corporate customers. It is just the small business's and end users that are gonna get Farked on this but I will post in my journal a repsonse if I am allowed on Monday...
A far as click thru agreements go, they've barely been tested in court and as IANAL I'll reserve judgement. We've recently been exploring the legal ramifications of email retention...Lawyers could make falling off a log dificult if there was a dollar to be made at it...
if the vendor knows of a vulnerability and DOES NOT disclose it to US, YOU can expect to see us in court very soon, M$ or not. As far as making the whole exploit and gruesome details known to the public I can agree that it might be overkill and help the script kiddies, but letting your customers fly blind is criminal when you know better. We've already dropped IIS because of M$'s inability to keep it secure in the face of poor design, if they keep it up we'll begin dropping other components.
and reading the comment would be beyond yours ? The catalyst drivers that support the 9700 were NOT available on the support site for almost 2 weeks after I got the card. The wonderful ATI support page has *required* validated fields that did not EVEN INCLUDE the 9700 for nearly 2 weeks after they began marketing it. I guess I shouldn't feed the trolls....
Okie that is true...using it the cube is overkill but the idea is great :)
PS...
I just got an IPAQ, a hand me down from a product tester. I am using it and my palmVx side by side and one observation....
How CAN M$ bloat everything so much, that the same data from an 8 MB palm occupies a larger % on the 64 MB PocketPC ?
I will echo the above AC's comments LOUDLY and logged in. I've got a ti-4600 and a radeon 9700 pro, the Radeon is a better faster board, that has bugs in places I've never even considered. The 4600 is rock solid and compliant. ATI has yet to realize that a video card IS the drivers. ATI support is slow to respond, they often send the wrong info out, heck they did not even have drivers up for the 9700 for nearly 2 weeks after issue. My cd arrived damaged and I had to plead on IRC to get someone to let me ftp the drivers...
I hope ATI gets it together but how long have people been saying that ?
but I teleconference ALOT, and surround sound would actually KICK BUTT. On a phone meeting with 18 people any sort of directional focus would help. Beyond that and my MP3 collection, what other uses ? anyone ?
:)
Ooooo I NEED THX boss, for a proper development environment
I did not read the article but is the site in question, the one with the 'bad' link hosted on school equipment ? beyond that possible caveat I agree with you...security through obscurity DOES not work. Why should national safety through ignorance work either ? The one definite outcome of 09/11 is the emergence of the barely repressed american facism....I am proud to be an american citizen, but sometimes our actions embarass us all :(
go man go...you think the registry is bad..check out the win2k Active directory..sheesh..
coming from a Unix world to M$ I see advantages and dis-ads for both side, but I will say under Unix, the average admin scripted and coded to a much greater degree than the windows admins I work with today. Not to imply lack of knowledge but the interface under unix encourages batch scripting while M$ does the opposite utilizing the GUI interface. For just one example look at formating disks..if you want a non-standard format you have to go to cli.
there seems to be a push by motorola into the imbeded and kiosk market. Motorola cpus appear all over the in lots of devices other than computers. The market being what it is/has been it might not have been such a bad idea...
I suggested Apple needs to do this yesterday in a thread and was called a troll and stupid....
Put OSX on a pentium and watch XP die a quick death. Even if it costs apple the office suite, given a year that will be all M$ has to offer and they will be porting it for anyone willing to pay.
They are wasting their effort and time on a STUPID issue, but hey it is a free world... I doubt I will ever call it anything but Linux, anymore than I am likely to add some lame corporate name to the heisman trophy, of to refer to SF Giants stadium as some companies name as well....
How does M$ using 'monopolistic' tactics preclude or excuse Apple from doing the same ? The enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend by default.
more power to them, it gives a stable system, but if they start using the lousy console control setup by default, ala tomb raider, then GoodNIGHT. :(
Sooner or later the software is going to STOP just getting bigger, and get more efficient, we'll be able to use a VM of sometype and play cross platform, until then PC gamers are just gonna have to put up some $'s. I always pay for games, I even bought some Linux version of games I already had, not that it helped any