I do not see where in that scripture anyone is being called on to perform anything, except to avoid such things for one's self. So, a literal interpretation does not seem to me to give itself to hostile or harmful actions against others ( there is exhortation to discuss, but within the context of followers of Christ persuading someone seemingly errant toward more Godly actions/thoughts ).
We are also told not to judge others, that God will handle that for himself to forgive others, if we wish to be forgiven to love others, and pass God's love on to others, even to those we would consider enemies. I do not know how some claim the label 'Christian' while not being cognizant and observing these
Yes, that scripture does begin with one thing ( homosexuality ), but eventually does include other sin There may be levels of sin, but I see nothing calling for more than being as correct in oneself as possible.
A note, my Church ( and former Church ) are very likely considered "Fundamentalist", but I never experienced any teaching contrary to love, forgive, dont condemn.
<quote>So the choice is to make them overseas or don't make them at all.</quote>
In this case ( and others ), the company had the workers, was presumably profitable, and the company elected to outsource anyway. So, I am not convinced this argument flys always.
<quote>The problem is you are now paying tariffs and more money for the items.</quote>
You are not paying tariffs, by definition. You are paying ( more, I will certainly grant you ) for the items, but you are paying that within your economy. At levels consistent with the cost of other goods in your economy ( this is what the turkeys pushing for outsourcing dont get, not only do you loose someone paid enough to afford the expensive goods you are trying to sell ( here, because, by definition, they cant afford them where you are outsourcing to ), but you are performing wage arbitrage. Sounds good to them "cheap wages now, and later on too!", but you cant sell at the price points you want, because you pushed money out of your local system ( and if you believe the other countries participating will reciprocate, I have a unicorn to sell you ) and made less available to yourself. All because you think "ill have an extra helping now, screw those who come after me". )
<quote>This is the problem with trying to centrally plan an economy.</quote>
Why bring in "central planning"? There is a lot of area between "all planned at the top" and "nothing planned at the top".
"If I tell you I'm going to punch you, remind you that I'm going to punch you, tell you exactly when I'm going to punch you, is it really my fault if you get punched?"
Yes, absolutely yes, it is your fault. The punch was thrown *by you*. Telling me about it ad nauseum *does not* remove your responsibility.
So, the correct solution is to get the "N" out before the combustion happens. I know that is not easy to do. But there are so many other things we have done that are hard, I imagine we can figure this out also.
The parable of the talents is not about making material gains for yourself. It is about taking what God gives you, and putting it to use in a way that pleases God, not hiding it.
Your analysis of some who claim 'Christian' and 'camels and needles' is quite insightful. Jesus calls for us to look after the interests of others in addition to our own He calls on us to share with others, to help others.
The truth of the matter is that Capitalism nor Communism nor produce automatic gains for humanity as a whole.
Power held in the hands of few leads to losses for humanity.
Communism's steps to fruition lead to power held in the hands of few, it would take many wonders and miracles for it to actually be achieved.
But, concentration of private wealth also leads to power concentrated in few hands. Those with that power use it to grab increasing control of the political system, a process we have all had ring side seats to for a long time now. Chose to be willfully blind to it, if you like, but people behave poorly toward others, given power. Its not communism, its not capitalism, it's human.
I invite you to look at a map of North Korea, SK and China. While there are a few routes that arent super "toward" China, and the flight times would be short, I cant imagine Chinese leadership agreeing with your assessment.
And while we are launching these missiles, heading toward China, what do you think the Chinese will be doing? Sitting back, saying "oh, those goofy north Koreans.... Do you think it will be an early nuclear winter"? Or, saying "we have missiles heading toward us, we better get ours flying". Maybe letting a few fly toward their other adversary, Russia....
MAD does not work so well in a multi-lateral environment.
We cannot "nuke the tar" out of NK as "blithely" as we could Russia or China. The area is too small. Retaliation against NK ( as carried out by most options we have ) would also threaten at least China, and possibly Russia. This limits our retaliatory options severely. Most nuclear options are off the table. Conventional methods are much more difficult.
China has shown repeatedly that they OK with a modest, plausibly deniable, actions by NK that the US does not care for. China is showing it has ambitions on the wider world stage.
NK has shown it is not lead by a rational person, and that it's internal politics are not amenable to this changing any time soon.
It would not need to be "magnetic" ( assuming you mean ferrous ), only conducting. An aluminum bolt/rod/whatever in your person would still conduct, and moving thru a magnetic field, would have current induced in it. That current, having nothing to do, would likely heat the component in question.
"With free trade if your skill set is such that a person living in a hut can do the same job as you then you are going to have to live similar to them to compete or have a welfare state pay enough to live at a higher level."
Its not about living in a hut, its about having to spend less. Rent/food, that sort of thing.
What I find interesting is how those driving this process don't seem to get how this has to come around to get them, in the end. If you lower the standard of living of those you are living off of, you are removing the market that can afford to pay the prices you want to charge for the products you make. It has to end in either protectionism, or rate/living standard arbitrage, and those on top will sink. It's happening now, that is why jobs fly overseas, and why the US economy is not performing well.
China is right next to NK. I do not believe that we believe that China would not be concerned or that China would not retaliate in kind. Add in that Russia might join in, sensing an opportunity to be rid of an opponent. No, there would be no nuclear option, at least not to start.
MacArthur did not believe the Chinese would get involved in the Korean "police action" when UN forces were getting close to the Chinese border, but they sure did. It would be Ground Forces and Conventional Air action. Possibly involving China after a period.
What your proposing is that Developer A can either 1, extort money, or 2, make Developer B's plans nonviable due to having to pay for Developer A's lack of plan. In case 1, Developer A will be able to sell their developments before Developer B, in general ( people are not very good at assessing risk, and will go with Cheap just about every time ). In case 2, well, that is kinda silly, but OK.
But also, say Developer B just walks away. Developer A sells the properties and moves on to the next stupid thing. The people who purchased those properties are now on the hook. You will either answer "that is capitalism, red in claw and beak", or "they can take the developer to court". Case the second first, it seems unlikely that the developer will be around then. If they are, will they have the insurance coverage or other assets to handle the liability? And all the time spent in court proving the issue ( 'dar, we dinnint know, dar' ). If you are honest, I think you can see that the drive to be able to maximize profit will make allowing such a risk to leak down to the buyers a very likely thing. ( it happens all the time now ) Case the second, "capitalism, red in claw and beak". Sure, but do you really want that? The meat you buy poisons you, "you should have " isn't so awesome when you or a loved one is victim.
Notes, I am assuming Developer A knows or should know full well that the protection is needed, and that if they were developing for themselves or their loved ones, they would so do.
Everyone who is convinced that there is no problem, that the sea level is not rising, all the climate stuff is scare stuff to raise research funds, put some skin in the game and move to coastal Florida. You can probably pick it up for a relative steal, as the values should be dropping as the scaredy cats sell.
I had a Nissan Pickup ( 1986 ) that I did this with, just to see. Just moved it a bit. Had a 1992 BMW 525 with the clutch interlock out where I could do this as well. Dont recommend it, but it does work, sometimes.
Then you aren't sacrificing 100 people. I think it was clear that for the OP 1% meant something different, quite a bit more than 77k in assets. ( note, I'm not in favor of such a thing, i'm just pointing something out )
"Welfare moms". Are they coming off an assembly line, all made exactly the same?
Or, what is a welfare mom to you? Is it a definition? If so, then of course that is what welfare moms are. But then, how many people actually fit that definition?
It is easy to look at someone and decide that "if they only... all would be peachy." Not as easy to actually do, in their place, with their resources. I find that at work all over. Work too. Everything is easy when the job is someone else's.
The Doctor nor the 60 year old couple are in the 1%.
And that welfare mom, how to you know she doesn't want to work? There are some that don't want to work. There are many many more who do want to work, but cant because of infrastructural issues ( too many to list, but could include studied wrong things in school, has lisp, malformed limbs, doesnt interview well ( shy, stutters, etc ), work wont allow time for dropping off/picking up kids at school, no car, and more ).
That is what being an independent contractor means for you.
The reason that Truck Companies, Taxi Companies, some Chicken Farmers are "independent contractors" is to push risk and cost out of the corporation and onto the I/C. And the profit stays with the corporation, it does not follow the risk or cost very well.
With Truck Companies, they dont have to carry the insurance, dont have to worry as much about fluctuations in the cost of diesel, Truck Maintenance, etc. I recall a news article about how some Truckers were loosing money on loads because diesel costs went up fast,and the corporation the drivers were dealing with just didn't care, "the loads were sold, if you want to continue dealing with us, take it"
I also recall an article about one of the big Chicken sellers, they would have farms, the next group of gullible "we will make millions" people would buy the farm, because the "per chicken" payment was good. And maybe for a while, it would be. But then, they would lower the "per chicken" amount. Again and again, until those owners where soaked and gave up.
I understand that Home Depot will progressively lower the amount they are willing to pay their suppliers year over year, until the supplier goes under or gets smart and stops dealing with them.
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I do not see where in that scripture anyone is being called on to perform anything, except to avoid such things for one's self.
So, a literal interpretation does not seem to me to give itself to hostile or harmful actions against others ( there is exhortation to discuss, but within the context of followers of Christ persuading someone seemingly errant toward more Godly actions/thoughts ).
We are also told not to judge others, that God will handle that for himself
to forgive others, if we wish to be forgiven
to love others, and pass God's love on to others, even to those we would consider enemies.
I do not know how some claim the label 'Christian' while not being cognizant and observing these
Yes, that scripture does begin with one thing ( homosexuality ), but eventually does include other sin
There may be levels of sin, but I see nothing calling for more than being as correct in oneself as possible.
A note, my Church ( and former Church ) are very likely considered "Fundamentalist", but I never experienced any teaching contrary to love, forgive, dont condemn.
I will try to read it, thank you.
I had never thought about a united ProUS Korea. Yes, China would fear that.
I do find all the "nuke them till they glow..." comments when NK misbehaves to be remarkably dense.
China would never stand for any such thing.
I wish I could pick your brain for a few hours on that and other subjects.
Work calls.
And China has no real desire to stop them.
If all the players where playing economic liberty, that would be OK.
They are not. Being the only one who does leaves us open to lots of hurt.
<quote>So the choice is to make them overseas or don't make them at all.</quote>
In this case ( and others ), the company had the workers, was presumably profitable, and the company elected to outsource anyway.
So, I am not convinced this argument flys always.
<quote>The problem is you are now paying tariffs and more money for the items.</quote>
You are not paying tariffs, by definition. You are paying ( more, I will certainly grant you ) for the items, but you are paying that within your economy.
At levels consistent with the cost of other goods in your economy
( this is what the turkeys pushing for outsourcing dont get, not only do you loose someone paid enough to afford the expensive goods you are trying to sell ( here, because, by definition, they cant afford them where you are outsourcing to ), but you are performing wage arbitrage. Sounds good to them "cheap wages now, and later on too!", but you cant sell at the price points you want, because you pushed money out of your local system ( and if you believe the other countries participating will reciprocate, I have a unicorn to sell you ) and made less available to yourself. All because you think "ill have an extra helping now, screw those who come after me". )
<quote>This is the problem with trying to centrally plan an economy.</quote>
Why bring in "central planning"? There is a lot of area between "all planned at the top" and "nothing planned at the top".
"Microsoft doesn't make much money from OS updates. They never have. It's a tiny portion of their revenue."
Exactly. This is the spur. They want more.
"Besides, what features would be locked out if Windows were to become a subscription based model? Please do tell"
The whole operating system? Pay your monthly subscription or you cannot use your machine.
What else would be the point? What else would be needed?
"If I tell you I'm going to punch you, remind you that I'm going to punch you, tell you exactly when I'm going to punch you, is it really my fault if you get punched?"
Yes, absolutely yes, it is your fault. The punch was thrown *by you*. Telling me about it ad nauseum *does not* remove your responsibility.
So, the correct solution is to get the "N" out before the combustion happens.
I know that is not easy to do. But there are so many other things we have done that are hard, I imagine we can figure this out also.
The parable of the talents is not about making material gains for yourself.
It is about taking what God gives you, and putting it to use in a way that pleases God, not hiding it.
Your analysis of some who claim 'Christian' and 'camels and needles' is quite insightful.
Jesus calls for us to look after the interests of others in addition to our own
He calls on us to share with others, to help others.
The truth of the matter is that Capitalism nor Communism nor produce automatic gains for humanity as a whole.
Power held in the hands of few leads to losses for humanity.
Communism's steps to fruition lead to power held in the hands of few, it would take many wonders and miracles for it to actually be achieved.
But, concentration of private wealth also leads to power concentrated in few hands.
Those with that power use it to grab increasing control of the political system, a process we have all had ring side seats to for a long time now.
Chose to be willfully blind to it, if you like, but people behave poorly toward others, given power.
Its not communism, its not capitalism, it's human.
I invite you to look at a map of North Korea, SK and China.
While there are a few routes that arent super "toward" China, and the flight times would be short, I cant imagine Chinese leadership agreeing with your assessment.
And while we are launching these missiles, heading toward China, what do you think the Chinese will be doing?
Sitting back, saying "oh, those goofy north Koreans.... Do you think it will be an early nuclear winter"?
Or, saying "we have missiles heading toward us, we better get ours flying".
Maybe letting a few fly toward their other adversary, Russia....
MAD does not work so well in a multi-lateral environment.
We cannot "nuke the tar" out of NK as "blithely" as we could Russia or China.
The area is too small. Retaliation against NK ( as carried out by most options we have ) would also threaten at least China, and possibly Russia.
This limits our retaliatory options severely. Most nuclear options are off the table.
Conventional methods are much more difficult.
China has shown repeatedly that they OK with a modest, plausibly deniable, actions by NK that the US does not care for.
China is showing it has ambitions on the wider world stage.
NK has shown it is not lead by a rational person, and that it's internal politics are not amenable to this changing any time soon.
It would not need to be "magnetic" ( assuming you mean ferrous ), only conducting.
An aluminum bolt/rod/whatever in your person would still conduct, and moving thru a magnetic field, would have current induced in it.
That current, having nothing to do, would likely heat the component in question.
"With free trade if your skill set is such that a person living in a hut can do the same job as you then you are going to have to live similar to them to compete or have a welfare state pay enough to live at a higher level."
Its not about living in a hut, its about having to spend less. Rent/food, that sort of thing.
What I find interesting is how those driving this process don't seem to get how this has to come around to get them, in the end.
If you lower the standard of living of those you are living off of, you are removing the market that can afford to pay the prices you want to charge for the products you make.
It has to end in either protectionism, or rate/living standard arbitrage, and those on top will sink.
It's happening now, that is why jobs fly overseas, and why the US economy is not performing well.
China is right next to NK. I do not believe that we believe that China would not be concerned or that China would not retaliate in kind. Add in that Russia might join in, sensing an opportunity to be rid of an opponent. No, there would be no nuclear option, at least not to start.
MacArthur did not believe the Chinese would get involved in the Korean "police action" when UN forces were getting close to the Chinese border, but they sure did. It would be Ground Forces and Conventional Air action. Possibly involving China after a period.
What your proposing is that Developer A can either 1, extort money, or 2, make Developer B's plans nonviable due to having to pay for Developer A's lack of plan.
In case 1, Developer A will be able to sell their developments before Developer B, in general ( people are not very good at assessing risk, and will go with Cheap just about every time ). In case 2, well, that is kinda silly, but OK.
But also, say Developer B just walks away. Developer A sells the properties and moves on to the next stupid thing. The people who purchased those properties are now on the hook. You will either answer "that is capitalism, red in claw and beak", or "they can take the developer to court".
Case the second first, it seems unlikely that the developer will be around then. If they are, will they have the insurance coverage or other assets to handle the liability? And all the time spent in court proving the issue ( 'dar, we dinnint know, dar' ). If you are honest, I think you can see that the drive to be able to maximize profit will make allowing such a risk to leak down to the buyers a very likely thing. ( it happens all the time now )
Case the second, "capitalism, red in claw and beak". Sure, but do you really want that? The meat you buy poisons you, "you should have " isn't so awesome when you or a loved one is victim.
Notes, I am assuming Developer A knows or should know full well that the protection is needed, and that if they were developing for themselves or their loved ones, they would so do.
Here is an idea.
Everyone who is convinced that there is no problem, that the sea level is not rising, all the climate stuff is scare stuff to raise research funds, put some skin in the game and move to coastal Florida. You can probably pick it up for a relative steal, as the values should be dropping as the scaredy cats sell.
I Drive a BMW!
Oh, wait....
I had a Nissan Pickup ( 1986 ) that I did this with, just to see. Just moved it a bit.
Had a 1992 BMW 525 with the clutch interlock out where I could do this as well.
Dont recommend it, but it does work, sometimes.
And berate us when we use earplugs and sunglasses
Then you aren't sacrificing 100 people. I think it was clear that for the OP 1% meant something different, quite a bit more than 77k in assets.
( note, I'm not in favor of such a thing, i'm just pointing something out )
"Welfare moms". Are they coming off an assembly line, all made exactly the same?
Or, what is a welfare mom to you? Is it a definition? If so, then of course that is what welfare moms are.
But then, how many people actually fit that definition?
It is easy to look at someone and decide that "if they only ... all would be peachy." Not as easy to actually do, in their place, with their resources.
I find that at work all over. Work too. Everything is easy when the job is someone else's.
The Doctor nor the 60 year old couple are in the 1%.
And that welfare mom, how to you know she doesn't want to work?
There are some that don't want to work.
There are many many more who do want to work, but cant because of infrastructural issues ( too many to list, but could include studied wrong things in school, has lisp, malformed limbs, doesnt interview well ( shy, stutters, etc ), work wont allow time for dropping off/picking up kids at school, no car, and more ).
That is what being an independent contractor means for you.
The reason that Truck Companies, Taxi Companies, some Chicken Farmers are "independent contractors" is to push risk and cost out of the corporation and onto the I/C. And the profit stays with the corporation, it does not follow the risk or cost very well.
With Truck Companies, they dont have to carry the insurance, dont have to worry as much about fluctuations in the cost of diesel, Truck Maintenance, etc.
I recall a news article about how some Truckers were loosing money on loads because diesel costs went up fast,and the corporation the drivers were dealing with just didn't care, "the loads were sold, if you want to continue dealing with us, take it"
I also recall an article about one of the big Chicken sellers, they would have farms, the next group of gullible "we will make millions" people would buy the farm, because the "per chicken" payment was good. And maybe for a while, it would be. But then, they would lower the "per chicken" amount. Again and again, until those owners where soaked and gave up.
I understand that Home Depot will progressively lower the amount they are willing to pay their suppliers year over year, until the supplier goes under or gets smart and stops dealing with them.
The device manufacturers *are* to blame.
And so is Shodan.