another case of papa governments trying to decide what's best for everyone in the world.
the whole principle of the net is freedom, freedom of information, the internet is just the pipe. it's up to the individual LANs of the internet to control content.
people want to make the internet just like TV, which if you havent noticed, it incredibly shitty, and people are flocking to the net for entertainment, so now big companies behind the government or governments who control the media want to turn the net into another television..
last I checked, the net was for development and the trade of ideas and information, if a few weirdos want to express their horrid obsessions, and it's legal where it is.. fine, it's up to where it isnt legal to block that content. thing is, the US government would get in trouble for blocking sites as of the current situation, but if th net is a controlled medium by large governments, they cant get yelled at.
in most other countries, it'll be taken just like that, here in the states, it'll be taken away, with the horribll ie of "It's to protect you from yourselves and terrorism, because we care about your safety!"
ah, this is the problem, see, the US government can be changed the way it currently stands, though it's getting harder every day. they keep wanting to do things that will make it harder for us to run our own lives independently.
before you know it, we'll have to call the local police to ask if we can go play in the kiddy pool because those big deep pools are dangerous for people who are even in their 20's.(note: sarcasm)
keep the internet open, it isnt television, and I think this is why developers of various universities are repeating what was made in the 60's and 70's with the internet2, because intener 1 will be a pile of ash within the next ten years at this rate with ads everywhere and TV commercials popping up on your monitor every 5 minutes, or propaganda ads reminding you that the government is your all knowing source of protection, etc, along with those required safety cameras in your monitors to ensure that you're safe all the time. we're living the last days of internet freedom here, enjoy them while you can.
and I wouldnt be surprised if independent companies start their own networks again like back in the early 90's with aol and compuserve and link together to provide a friendlier internet if at all possible.
and I'm glad they mentioned this. because if you read goldfinger, (james bond novel.. back in the 60's, sure you all knew that, but making a point) he makes a mention about goldfinger prolly being demented, because of the way he looks and being picked on during his childhood..
notice that most of the violence related deaths because of "videogames" have all been by kids who have been picked on a lot, or ones with a violent background or are just violent themselves? some kids who get picked on cant handle it and snap. some kids are just already fucked up due to chemical imbalances.. and some are screwed up because of a bad family life.
but, people started blaming videogames becausei t was a much simpler scapegoat than all the real reasons. and the fact that the kid who shot up columbine had some FPS games.. but they leave out the fact that he prolly got the fps because he was already fucked up, not to mention the videos of him and his friend shooting targets in the woods and cheering and going "DIE!! DIEE!!! YEAAAAH!!! DIEE!!"
the columbine kids were violent, and they were picked on.. it's like provoking a sleeping tiger with meat strapped on you.
all 3 technologies will never be replaced by each other.. cell phones offer mobility and are good for emergencies when you're stranded
voip offers some mobility (have the same number no matter where you go, but can be unreliable, but is good for low priced long distance calls and casual calling)
POTS (analog) is tried and true, and reliable in most situations. makes good for a good landline, can be used when the power goes out (in most cases, unless the lines got completely cut, or if you use a handset, hence why I keep a "tethered" phone around)
liek I've said before, technologies really never die, we just find other things to use.. but in the end.. older technology can be your best friend.
Some technologies dont need to die because they're at their pinnacle. not much more you can do with a watch than put a buncha crap that interferes with you needing to tell time, analog looks more stylish, digital watches remind me of a child's watch, before they learn analog.
it's like with cell phones, while it's neat that it has a buncha new stuff on it, it isnt really that much of a useful advancement in technology. I just want to use the phone, not play games and stuff, some of the only usefull addons are address books, email, and speed dial. (which has been around for ages) otherwise... most of the other features, such as voice recording, cameras, games, ringtones, etc are useless and often annoying. I dont want to hear some pop song in 8 bit or in polyphonic tones.. bad enough the music sucks.
basically, any technology that can do its job efficiently and is still useful, will never die, people just like newer things, it's like tv's... "GET THIS NEW SONY 476ZSDSX! now your screen can be one pixel larger than before! now with tons of useless features you'll surely never use!"
computers are one thing (though never truly obsolete, unless it's an apple II or ENIAC) but with most technologies we have, they've hit their pinnacle and there's really not much to improve on to necessarily make them better, if they want to make phones better, they should make the sound quality better.
not so much the fact they can track you, what do you think cable boxes and satellite boxes do? all marketing, and unlike the net, marketing with television is what makes it go round.
but the fact is taht you DONT KNOW if tivo's sending "anonymous" information, for all you know, they could be sending info with your name tagged on like a status report, and you dont know if they're rubbing elbows with homeland security to "watch for terroristic activities" like say, someone happens to get al jezeera on their satellite, and skips over it, or looks at it for half a second while couch surfing on a boring afternon, and that information gets sent (this doesnt just apply to tivo btw) with your name on it, what's stopping the fbi or cia into thinking you're a terrorist? bam wham, you're in syria getting brutally tortured.
I dont mind if companies like tivo gather data, my problem is on how honest they're being about gathering it.
judging by how everyone here has reacted, you seem to forget it's one tiny town in cali that has done stuff like this before. now say, if LA or the entire state required this.. then there'd be concern.
only way I can see things getting ugly....
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is if the next release of IE or the next XP patch blocks access to google, or it redirects to msn search, then I think people would be incredibly pissed off at microsoft.
I've seen so many posts where people are like "uhh, how is this trapping them?"
microsoft is tailoring their software to spy and track the location of any of its users so if they do anything "bad" (like saying "freedom is great, go democracy!") they'd be jailed tortured, then killed, and microsoft's doing this knowing the reprocussions it will have on its users.
at least if they make a linux system, it can be hacked to be invisible to the chinese govt.
if they added pre-emptive suport to 2.6.. then with server apps, of course 2.6 would be slower (I forget the reasoning why, someone was telling me about why that happens)
pre-emptive support benefits desktop stuff, not server.
besides, 2.6 is still a baby kernel compared to 2.4.. which has been around for a bit and has tried and true features.. the 2.6 is messing with new things.. compile both kernels to almost exactness, then do a speed test.
If I send a letter to George Bush using Saddam Hussein for the return address, the president will not believe that the letter is really from Iraq! Why? (other than Saddam being captured?) The postmark on the envelope will say Pullman, Wa...wait wait wait, you mean the current president or his father? you surely cant mean our currebnt president.
it's not like making closed source drivers for the linux kernel is hard, you basically make code that will use a static object file and call from it and include it, etc... so, what's taking them so long?
I know if you show that you have experience and gives hints you can do well on your own and can handle people, your application will be thrown out with most businesses. because unless it's a computer-centric job(I'm not even sure that counts) in the us, namely retail, if you actually have any brains, you cant get the job, they want stupid, inexperienced, young workers who need their hands held on the job and need the manager's "brilliant guidance" to help them along, that way, none of them never will have the chance of getting promoted to a level near the manager, unless they're complete sheep. all the jos my mom has worked, every time she'd get promoted, they'd find some reason to demote her. She has way more experience than anyone there, including management.
but I say, make it look like you're a dumbshit when it comes to jobs like that, get hired, then start kicking some ass.
and I know in the computer field, it can be tricky, because there are companies who want incredibly talented people, people who know what they're doing, because management is tired of people who have no idea what's going on running the company.. and of course, I'm talking about low-level computer job stuff, like network technicians for some random corporation, etc.. not stuff like working at IBM, or some random big company that is computer centric.
it's a lottery, sometimes you'll win, sometimes you'll lose.
btw, I know the experience discrimination thing all too well, tried getting a job at 5 different computer places, put in all of what I know, didnt get hired, but some people who didnt know shit got hired and they had to read off a list to know what the hell I was talking about when I visited to look for parts.
Compusa didnt hire me, and I know exactly why, their manager is a dumbshit. I ask him for a vga box and he's like "whazz vga?" so yeah, unless you're a geek-wannabe who thinks he's l33t because he can use windows, you're not getting a job with most of the places.
this will encourage more cross-platform development towards linux, and when people see the develepment tools available for linux, it could spark more of a liking towards linux, which is a very good thing, so not only does this make it easier to go into linux, it also provides a demo of a linux operating system so to speak. this will also anger bill "it's mine! gimme!" gates.
the problem with wine is, it's getting too big, too bloated, (the source, compiled and unclean, is over a gigabyte.) and less functional, it actually seems to be stepping backwards, and encourages more windows development and a temporary fix. hell, if wine got any bigger, it would be just like windows.
I think this is a better strategy to interest people in free software. show them a window (no pun intended) into the opensource world, and if they like what they see, then bam. instead of throwing them headfirst into linux, them getting horribly confused and running back into windows.
if they wanted to make it l33t.. they should have modified a flatpanel display to work in the mac screen, and mod the bios to show the 1984 2004 logo on bootup (like many OEM's do on their hardware)
why didnt the matrix just equip all the geeks and slashdotters with amd systems and a lifetime supply of junkfood and post fake issues up on slashdot and use the heat from the computers and the users to power the matrix?
Melinda: If you dont fund my organization, you wont even get to see my boobs! Bill: awww, but I dun Melinda: not another word, or you wont have chances at sex again for another 3 years Bill: Fine, god dammit. you stupid bitch, I'll fund your little useless cause Melinda: and you can get more potential customers and more publicity! Bill: Wow, did I tell you how beautiful you are?
I bet it either ran into magnetite or a radioactive rock.
becauseit suddenly conks out, it might have gotten interrupted, that or an electromagnetic wave got it.
mars serves its name well, god of war and hostility, etc..
and mars is one unfriendly place.
they say we should colonize there, bah, let's focus on objects closer to earth atm, like the ocean or the moon first..
at least the moon has protection from the sun somewhat IIRC, and it's much closer. and the ocean, whatever happened with making bases under the ocean?:P though it's not as fun as doing something in space..
well, there was still apple, which was an alternative to ibm as well as microsoft was back in the early 90's and IBM was having problems. linux still would have existed because torvalds wanted something like unix on his pc.
-the fact sco has made wild accusations and has yet to produce evidence, but wants the company they're suing to produce it for them. -china, a communist country supports freedom of choice in technology, moreso than the US -most of the world, and a close us ally have chosen linux -linux/opensource creates more jobs than it destroys, it'll destroy legacy companies that are stuck on old ideals which end up giving rich corporations more power than the government has, which equals a dictatorship -linux is the neutralizer of monopolies, keeps them in check. -banning a freedom of choicel ike this would give microsoft more power, and will abuse the consumer, and when the voter (use voter, makes them flinch) inds out their government allowed something so unconstitutional and american in the first place, you all will be voted out, violence will ensue or worse. -immigrants (future taxpayers) will go elsewhere for more freedoms once they see the US isnt as free as another country. -opensource is the last barrier from a repeat of what happened over 100 years ago before the clayton anti-trust act (the events almost brought forth anarchy.) -banning a form of freedom like this is an act of dictatorship and communism the soviets only wished they had. -crime and piracy will rise. -opensource makes it less expensive on government offices nationwide
I could go on. I know some points arent good, but hey, I was throwing out random ideas.
I'm so sure that microsoft let them do this by themselves, looking at sco's recent patterns, this looks like a microsoft move more than a dumbass darl move, would microsoft do this openly? no, they have a reputation to keep, and with the red flag they got from the govt a while back for anti-trust crap, it would look like another case where microsoft is using them robed men to knock off another company from their grab of power. so why not promise a ceo of a failing company some financial help by having him be a puppet for their whims, in the end, if successful, thy get a wad of cash, and get a successful kernel for their new software they can close and have full rights to, as long as they do favos for m$ here and there. many people argue this isnt it, but shit, from day one, it has looked like microsoft's doings, and every day, bill gates' shadow gets bigger and bigger behind Darl.
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another case of papa governments trying to decide what's best for everyone in the world.
the whole principle of the net is freedom, freedom of information, the internet is just the pipe. it's up to the individual LANs of the internet to control content.
people want to make the internet just like TV, which if you havent noticed, it incredibly shitty, and people are flocking to the net for entertainment, so now big companies behind the government or governments who control the media want to turn the net into another television..
last I checked, the net was for development and the trade of ideas and information, if a few weirdos want to express their horrid obsessions, and it's legal where it is.. fine, it's up to where it isnt legal to block that content.
thing is, the US government would get in trouble for blocking sites as of the current situation, but if th net is a controlled medium by large governments, they cant get yelled at.
in most other countries, it'll be taken just like that, here in the states, it'll be taken away, with the horribll ie of "It's to protect you from yourselves and terrorism, because we care about your safety!"
ah, this is the problem, see, the US government can be changed the way it currently stands, though it's getting harder every day. they keep wanting to do things that will make it harder for us to run our own lives independently.
before you know it, we'll have to call the local police to ask if we can go play in the kiddy pool because those big deep pools are dangerous for people who are even in their 20's.(note: sarcasm)
keep the internet open, it isnt television, and I think this is why developers of various universities are repeating what was made in the 60's and 70's with the internet2, because intener 1 will be a pile of ash within the next ten years at this rate with ads everywhere and TV commercials popping up on your monitor every 5 minutes, or propaganda ads reminding you that the government is your all knowing source of protection, etc, along with those required safety cameras in your monitors to ensure that you're safe all the time.
we're living the last days of internet freedom here, enjoy them while you can.
and I wouldnt be surprised if independent companies start their own networks again like back in the early 90's with aol and compuserve and link together to provide a friendlier internet if at all possible.
and I'm glad they mentioned this.
because if you read goldfinger, (james bond novel.. back in the 60's, sure you all knew that, but making a point) he makes a mention about goldfinger prolly being demented, because of the way he looks and being picked on during his childhood..
notice that most of the violence related deaths because of "videogames"
have all been by kids who have been picked on a lot, or ones with a violent background or are just violent themselves?
some kids who get picked on cant handle it and snap. some kids are just already fucked up due to chemical imbalances.. and some are screwed up because of a bad family life.
but, people started blaming videogames becausei t was a much simpler scapegoat than all the real reasons. and the fact that the kid who shot up columbine had some FPS games.. but they leave out the fact that he prolly got the fps because he was already fucked up, not to mention the videos of him and his friend shooting targets in the woods and cheering and going "DIE!! DIEE!!! YEAAAAH!!! DIEE!!"
the columbine kids were violent, and they were picked on.. it's like provoking a sleeping tiger with meat strapped on you.
all 3 technologies will never be replaced by each other..
cell phones offer mobility and are good for emergencies when you're stranded
voip offers some mobility (have the same number no matter where you go, but can be unreliable, but is good for low priced long distance calls and casual calling)
POTS (analog) is tried and true, and reliable in most situations. makes good for a good landline, can be used when the power goes out (in most cases, unless the lines got completely cut, or if you use a handset, hence why I keep a "tethered" phone around)
liek I've said before, technologies really never die, we just find other things to use..
but in the end.. older technology can be your best friend.
"our linux crashed your openbsd!"
Some technologies dont need to die because they're at their pinnacle.
not much more you can do with a watch than put a buncha crap that interferes with you needing to tell time, analog looks more stylish, digital watches remind me of a child's watch, before they learn analog.
it's like with cell phones, while it's neat that it has a buncha new stuff on it, it isnt really that much of a useful advancement in technology. I just want to use the phone, not play games and stuff, some of the only usefull addons are address books, email, and speed dial. (which has been around for ages) otherwise... most of the other features, such as voice recording, cameras, games, ringtones, etc are useless and often annoying. I dont want to hear some pop song in 8 bit or in polyphonic tones.. bad enough the music sucks.
basically, any technology that can do its job efficiently and is still useful, will never die, people just like newer things, it's like tv's...
"GET THIS NEW SONY 476ZSDSX! now your screen can be one pixel larger than before! now with tons of useless features you'll surely never use!"
computers are one thing (though never truly obsolete, unless it's an apple II or ENIAC)
but with most technologies we have, they've hit their pinnacle and there's really not much to improve on to necessarily make them better, if they want to make phones better, they should make the sound quality better.
not so much the fact they can track you, what do you think cable boxes and satellite boxes do?
all marketing, and unlike the net, marketing with television is what makes it go round.
but the fact is taht you DONT KNOW if tivo's sending "anonymous" information, for all you know, they could be sending info with your name tagged on like a status report, and you dont know if they're rubbing elbows with homeland security to "watch for terroristic activities"
like say, someone happens to get al jezeera on their satellite, and skips over it, or looks at it for half a second while couch surfing on a boring afternon, and that information gets sent (this doesnt just apply to tivo btw) with your name on it, what's stopping the fbi or cia into thinking you're a terrorist? bam wham, you're in syria getting brutally tortured.
I dont mind if companies like tivo gather data, my problem is on how honest they're being about gathering it.
judging by how everyone here has reacted, you seem to forget it's one tiny town in cali that has done stuff like this before.
now say, if LA or the entire state required this.. then there'd be concern.
is if the next release of IE or the next XP patch blocks access to google, or it redirects to msn search, then I think people would be incredibly pissed off at microsoft.
wouldnt that make it just pentium?
looks like intel strikes again..
I've seen so many posts where people are like "uhh, how is this trapping them?"
microsoft is tailoring their software to spy and track the location of any of its users so if they do anything "bad" (like saying "freedom is great, go democracy!") they'd be jailed tortured, then killed, and microsoft's doing this knowing the reprocussions it will have on its users.
at least if they make a linux system, it can be hacked to be invisible to the chinese govt.
if they added pre-emptive suport to 2.6.. then with server apps, of course 2.6 would be slower (I forget the reasoning why, someone was telling me about why that happens)
pre-emptive support benefits desktop stuff, not server.
besides, 2.6 is still a baby kernel compared to 2.4.. which has been around for a bit and has tried and true features.. the 2.6 is messing with new things..
compile both kernels to almost exactness, then do a speed test.
If I send a letter to George Bush using Saddam Hussein for the return address, the president will not believe that the letter is really from Iraq! Why? (other than Saddam being captured?) The postmark on the envelope will say Pullman, Wa ...wait wait wait, you mean the current president or his father? you surely cant mean our currebnt president.
since microsoft is going to get DDoS'ed by this, all law enforcement and isp's jump to their feet and go on a tangent.
funny how if it attacked a non microsoft site, they would have been slower to react. isnt that kinda funny?
it's not like making closed source drivers for the linux kernel is hard, you basically make code that will use a static object file and call from it and include it, etc...
so, what's taking them so long?
Well I own the videogame patent!
so gimme all your $'s
yeah, that was lame.
his advice is heavily flawed.
I know if you show that you have experience and gives hints you can do well on your own and can handle people, your application will be thrown out with most businesses. because unless it's a computer-centric job(I'm not even sure that counts)
in the us, namely retail, if you actually have any brains, you cant get the job, they want stupid, inexperienced, young workers who need their hands held on the job and need the manager's "brilliant guidance" to help them along, that way, none of them never will have the chance of getting promoted to a level near the manager, unless they're complete sheep.
all the jos my mom has worked, every time she'd get promoted, they'd find some reason to demote her. She has way more experience than anyone there, including management.
but I say, make it look like you're a dumbshit when it comes to jobs like that, get hired, then start kicking some ass.
and I know in the computer field, it can be tricky, because there are companies who want incredibly talented people, people who know what they're doing, because management is tired of people who have no idea what's going on running the company.. and of course, I'm talking about low-level computer job stuff, like network technicians for some random corporation, etc.. not stuff like working at IBM, or some random big company that is computer centric.
it's a lottery, sometimes you'll win, sometimes you'll lose.
btw, I know the experience discrimination thing all too well, tried getting a job at 5 different computer places, put in all of what I know, didnt get hired, but some people who didnt know shit got hired and they had to read off a list to know what the hell I was talking about when I visited to look for parts.
Compusa didnt hire me, and I know exactly why, their manager is a dumbshit.
I ask him for a vga box and he's like "whazz vga?"
so yeah, unless you're a geek-wannabe who thinks he's l33t because he can use windows, you're not getting a job with most of the places.
this will encourage more cross-platform development
towards linux, and when people see the develepment tools available for linux, it could spark more of a liking towards linux, which is a very good thing, so not only does this make it easier to go into linux, it also provides a demo of a linux operating system so to speak.
this will also anger bill "it's mine! gimme!" gates.
the problem with wine is, it's getting too big, too bloated, (the source, compiled and unclean, is over a gigabyte.) and less functional, it actually seems to be stepping backwards, and encourages more windows development and a temporary fix.
hell, if wine got any bigger, it would be just like windows.
I think this is a better strategy to interest people in free software. show them a window (no pun intended) into the opensource world, and if they like what they see, then bam.
instead of throwing them headfirst into linux, them getting horribly confused and running back into windows.
if they wanted to make it l33t..
they should have modified a flatpanel display to work in the mac screen,
and mod the bios to show the 1984 2004 logo on bootup (like many OEM's do on their hardware)
now that would have been cool
I'm tempted to mod my apple IIe now...
which begs a matrix question...
why didnt the matrix just equip all the geeks and slashdotters with amd systems and a lifetime supply of junkfood and post fake issues up on slashdot and use the heat from the computers and the users to power the matrix?
Melinda: If you dont fund my organization, you wont even get to see my boobs!
Bill: awww, but I dun
Melinda: not another word, or you wont have chances at sex again for another 3 years
Bill: Fine, god dammit. you stupid bitch, I'll fund your little useless cause
Melinda: and you can get more potential customers and more publicity!
Bill: Wow, did I tell you how beautiful you are?
prolly went down something like that.
I bet it either ran into magnetite or a radioactive rock.
:P
becauseit suddenly conks out, it might have gotten interrupted, that or an electromagnetic wave got it.
mars serves its name well, god of war and hostility, etc..
and mars is one unfriendly place.
they say we should colonize there, bah, let's focus on objects closer to earth atm, like the ocean or the moon first..
at least the moon has protection from the sun somewhat IIRC, and it's much closer.
and the ocean, whatever happened with making bases under the ocean?
though it's not as fun as doing something in space..
well, there was still apple, which was an alternative to ibm as well as microsoft was back in the early 90's and IBM was having problems.
linux still would have existed because torvalds wanted something like unix on his pc.
-the fact sco has made wild accusations and has yet to produce evidence, but wants the company they're suing to produce it for them.
-china, a communist country supports freedom of choice in technology, moreso than the US
-most of the world, and a close us ally have chosen linux
-linux/opensource creates more jobs than it destroys, it'll destroy legacy companies that are stuck on old ideals which end up giving rich corporations more power than the government has, which equals a dictatorship
-linux is the neutralizer of monopolies, keeps them in check.
-banning a freedom of choicel ike this would give microsoft more power, and will abuse the consumer, and when the voter (use voter, makes them flinch) inds out their government allowed something so unconstitutional and american in the first place, you all will be voted out, violence will ensue or worse.
-immigrants (future taxpayers) will go elsewhere for more freedoms once they see the US isnt as free as another country.
-opensource is the last barrier from a repeat of what happened over 100 years ago before the clayton anti-trust act (the events almost brought forth anarchy.)
-banning a form of freedom like this is an act of dictatorship and communism the soviets only wished they had.
-crime and piracy will rise.
-opensource makes it less expensive on government offices nationwide
I could go on.
I know some points arent good, but hey, I was throwing out random ideas.
I'm so sure that microsoft let them do this by themselves, looking at sco's recent patterns, this looks like a microsoft move more than a dumbass darl move, would microsoft do this openly? no, they have a reputation to keep, and with the red flag they got from the govt a while back for anti-trust crap, it would look like another case where microsoft is using them robed men to knock off another company from their grab of power. so why not promise a ceo of a failing company some financial help by having him be a puppet for their whims, in the end, if successful, thy get a wad of cash, and get a successful kernel for their new software they can close and have full rights to, as long as they do favos for m$ here and there.
many people argue this isnt it, but shit, from day one, it has looked like microsoft's doings, and every day, bill gates' shadow gets bigger and bigger behind Darl.
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