I have been reading in business week that the telco's have only utilized about 15% of all the capacity that they have. So now comes my question, what gives?
That is probably 15% of thier fiber capacity, not total capacity. The other cost of hooking up the fiber is the routers and integrating it into the "net". The reason is that the price of getting bandwidth is so low now that is not cost effective for them to hook the fiber up.
Counter-intuitive? The fiber is only one part of the cost and it is fixed since it is in the ground alredy. There is the capital required, and the human cost to support hooking up and maintaining the fiber. If they hooked up all the fiber they would drive down the costs of bandwidth even more, and thus lose more money. So they leave the fiber dark until it make economic sence for them to light it up.
My cost for Bandwidth is about 50% of my revenue. I am a one man show, and my ISP is not the bulk of my income. I make my money consulting.
I do not know how the big boys do it, they have to have teams of skilled techs, phone support people, support infrasturture, people to manage said infrastructure, oh yeah, and the actual network to provide the bandwidth.
I do not begrudge that fact that I have to pay a lot for bandwidth. I am actualy happy that I pay so little for what I get. However the barrier to entry into the market will make many people thing twice about doing it. If I knew then what I know now... well I probably would not have gone into this business.
As for the costs to the ISP when a site gets slashdoted, the cost is slow connectivity and frustrated clients. It is a delecate balance, making sure you have enough capacity, and staying in the black. There is a huge lead time to getting additional bandwith avaiable, unless you are a large organization and can afford standby bandwidth.
I have to keep a close eye on operations to make sure that bandwidth is not being over taxed by a single client, and that that client knows about thier usage. I have had several clients get hacked (open ftp Windows servers are a favorite). Suddenly they are pushing a full T1 of data out and they are scrathing thier head wondering why the Internet is so slow today...
They would not put these gadgets in the tires, they get replaced several times in the life time of the car.
Everyone know that the sensors are in the cusion of the driver seat so they can measure the amount of gas released during thier commute. To bad they cannot measure your output, but your posting will provide ample data.
Re:Free Kevin?
on
Kevin Free
·
· Score: 2, Redundant
I guess you are right. I've also seen people with degrees who couldn't code their way out of a paper bag.
Amen to that! There are many people out there that can't code worth a damn but have a degree. However I would not call these people dumb. They are the first in line when time are hard, and the programmers a queing up work. The HR people go for what they can see/measure, and self-taught does not translate well on a resume.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I do not have the RFC handy, but isn't a 5xx error a perminant error, and a 4xx error a transient error? Both 550 and 553 shoud indicate a non-recoverable error and the email should be returned as such to the sender.
Also if you want to tie up resource on the sending server use 4xx errors. The email wil sit on the sending server taking up space, and processing time. Which may or may not give you some pleasure. This will cost you in some tiny amount of bandwidth.....
If you read over the LKML mailing list archives, it will become quite clear to you that the kernel developers don't give a cold shit in hell about user requests or complaints. They do what they want, and fuck everyone else.
This development method seems to work for MS too. The only difference is that you can take the code and fuck yourself with it, but MS prevents your from fucking yourself, they do it for you.
Are you saying that I should just grin and bear it when my computer goes BOOM! when the soundcard gets initialized? I should say "Wow! I am so lucky to have something that just barely supports my videocard!"?
Are you paying for the software and support? If you are does your vendor suuport the hardware that went "BOOM"? You should take this up with your vendor.
And when I point this out to those that "support" these features, I'm told I should drop everything I'm doing, spend several months reading up on the low level details of my card, learn the intricacies of the kernel, learn the intricacies of CVS, write a patch, kiss ass for another month or two so that my patch is actually added, so I ineffect cleanup someone else's mess and/or stroke someone else's ego, instead of doing what brings me joy (say my own project)?
Again, are you paying for this "support", are they contractualy obligated to listen to your points about thier software drivers? Talk to your vendor. If you do not have a vendor, what are you bitching about?
As for developing patches why kiss anyones ass? If you feel that the maintainers are not listening, or taking your patch submisions create the patch yourself and keep it to yourself. Or, better yet publish it on your own web site. Hell run your own CVS tree with your own set of patches. You are as obligated to do this as the people that develop the kernel in the first place.
Now tell me, who's more arrogant?
I would have to say, that expecting free "support" from people that write and maintain code because they like to, not because they are paid for it, pretty much smacks of arrogance to me...
You can get a new winmodem though, one that has modern and compatible Linux drivers for the chipset.
No he can't. RTFP. He's a student (hence not much spare cash) with a laptop that has a built-in winmodem.
He chose to spend his limited cash on a laptop with components that were not supported with open source... or he received the laptop for free. Either way, why should the rest of the development community be penalized, or have to make decisions based on what this guy owns? He should do more research first next time, and stop bitching about "poor me, I can't run a modem, somebody help me..."
The kernel is GPLed, if hardware vendors cannot figure out that it is to thier benifit to release the software, or release timly updates, the let darwin do his work on them...
( OS people, real-time people, embedded people, well a lot of people!)
embedded people, are they, like, fetuses?
But seriously (and to stay on topic), I am really excited about hammer too. 64 bit processors for the people! I hope the mobo manufacturs get some nice, commodity products out there so that hammer is a viable chioce for my desktop!
Very quickly, geeks across the country begin buying T-1's and starting their own, small, unlimited, ISPs.
Get real, I own a very small ISP, and there is next to no money to be made in that buisness. There is NO SUCH thing as free bandwidth! It costs me lots of money to buy my bandwidth. My customers pay me for thier usage, and I keep tabs on how much is used and when. Otherwise I would have one or two users killing the service for everyone else.
Now, a coop might be able to do such a thing if you have close proximity and can use wireless for distribution. But it requires that someone be responsible for the incoming line, and to deal with things, like DNS servers, email servers, IP allocation, or NATing and firewalling, etc. If you have a tight knit group of geeks, who do not quibble about usage and such, and you all can get along, you are set.
Nice idea in theory, but back to reality for the majority of people out there... In practice there are many more variables/problems/issues to deal with when running a coop or an small buisness. There is liability, accouting, infrastructure, capitalization, to name a few. The sad truth is that the Cable providers will charge as much as they can to skim the cream off the top of the customer base. Those with few other options are not going to start a Coop, or thier own ISP just to get unlimited bandwidth, it is too har and time consuming. The economics are not there...
Along the same vein, did you enjoy the Staturday Night Live parody of Star Trek? Did you consider it an honor to be parodied by John Bolushi?
I remember religiously watching reruns of Star Trek in the late afternoons as a 6-7 year old. I would have to stake out the TV early in the afternoon because if I left my sister would switch the stations. There was a standing rule that whoever is was in the room first got to pick the show. I credit you with the large bladder size that I have today. Thanks!
the size of the vagina is related to the expected size of the head coming out not that going in.
and if you have ever seen a head coming out you have new found respect for the female of the species. It is a good thing that women generaly only focus on the happy part (holding the baby) after a birth experience, otherwise humans would not have made it this far.
Now, what does this have to do with SPAM? Every spammer has a mother, somewhere. These mothers must have abused them as children
Now they are being required to justify their enormous salaries and all they can do is whine about their "exponentially" grow TODO list. Cry me a river.
How do you justify your salery while posting to/.?
They go straight to the vendor that runs the software system for the library to get the data. The library personel may not even know that the FBI was snooping around. Scarry.
This isn't true, unfortunately. When the implementations of strong hash checking are done properly (everything in one chip, ROM a la Xbox), they WILL succeed in locking everyone else out without very expensive hacks.
It is true! It only takes ONE successful hack, then it is out of the bottle, until they release the next upgrade. With pooled resources, ala distributed CPU power, the problem will be solved eventualy. These companies are not going to put in real expensive CPUs to do heavy duty crypto when they are selling a comodity product. The cost per unit is too great. There will always be more powerful CPUs then the ones in these appliances.
I don't even like my wife messing with my computer, nevermind some complete stranger.
My kids, my wife, and my mother do not have admin access on thier win2k machines (they each have thier own). If something breaks I have to fix it. Thats part of the deal for maintaining thier machines.... I aint got no time for no windoz viri, or spyware.
Slashdot Mirror
That is probably 15% of thier fiber capacity, not total capacity. The other cost of hooking up the fiber is the routers and integrating it into the "net". The reason is that the price of getting bandwidth is so low now that is not cost effective for them to hook the fiber up.
Counter-intuitive? The fiber is only one part of the cost and it is fixed since it is in the ground alredy. There is the capital required, and the human cost to support hooking up and maintaining the fiber. If they hooked up all the fiber they would drive down the costs of bandwidth even more, and thus lose more money. So they leave the fiber dark until it make economic sence for them to light it up.
I do not know how the big boys do it, they have to have teams of skilled techs, phone support people, support infrasturture, people to manage said infrastructure, oh yeah, and the actual network to provide the bandwidth.
I do not begrudge that fact that I have to pay a lot for bandwidth. I am actualy happy that I pay so little for what I get. However the barrier to entry into the market will make many people thing twice about doing it. If I knew then what I know now... well I probably would not have gone into this business.
As for the costs to the ISP when a site gets slashdoted, the cost is slow connectivity and frustrated clients. It is a delecate balance, making sure you have enough capacity, and staying in the black. There is a huge lead time to getting additional bandwith avaiable, unless you are a large organization and can afford standby bandwidth.
I have to keep a close eye on operations to make sure that bandwidth is not being over taxed by a single client, and that that client knows about thier usage. I have had several clients get hacked (open ftp Windows servers are a favorite). Suddenly they are pushing a full T1 of data out and they are scrathing thier head wondering why the Internet is so slow today...
My God! Its full of pins.
They would not put these gadgets in the tires, they get replaced several times in the life time of the car.
Everyone know that the sensors are in the cusion of the driver seat so they can measure the amount of gas released during thier commute. To bad they cannot measure your output, but your posting will provide ample data.
* Free-as-in-beer
* Free-as-in-speech
* Free-as-in-Kevin
Where is the Free-as-in-CowboyNeal option
Amen to that! There are many people out there that can't code worth a damn but have a degree. However I would not call these people dumb. They are the first in line when time are hard, and the programmers a queing up work. The HR people go for what they can see/measure, and self-taught does not translate well on a resume.
Also if you want to tie up resource on the sending server use 4xx errors. The email wil sit on the sending server taking up space, and processing time. Which may or may not give you some pleasure. This will cost you in some tiny amount of bandwidth.....
I can't believe B&N would sell this for $47... I guess they are relying on lazyness. A few mouse clicks will generally yield better results.
This development method seems to work for MS too. The only difference is that you can take the code and fuck yourself with it, but MS prevents your from fucking yourself, they do it for you.
Are you paying for the software and support? If you are does your vendor suuport the hardware that went "BOOM"? You should take this up with your vendor.
And when I point this out to those that "support" these features, I'm told I should drop everything I'm doing, spend several months reading up on the low level details of my card, learn the intricacies of the kernel, learn the intricacies of CVS, write a patch, kiss ass for another month or two so that my patch is actually added, so I ineffect cleanup someone else's mess and/or stroke someone else's ego, instead of doing what brings me joy (say my own project)?
Again, are you paying for this "support", are they contractualy obligated to listen to your points about thier software drivers? Talk to your vendor. If you do not have a vendor, what are you bitching about?
As for developing patches why kiss anyones ass? If you feel that the maintainers are not listening, or taking your patch submisions create the patch yourself and keep it to yourself. Or, better yet publish it on your own web site. Hell run your own CVS tree with your own set of patches. You are as obligated to do this as the people that develop the kernel in the first place.
Now tell me, who's more arrogant?
I would have to say, that expecting free "support" from people that write and maintain code because they like to, not because they are paid for it, pretty much smacks of arrogance to me...
No he can't. RTFP. He's a student (hence not much spare cash) with a laptop that has a built-in winmodem.
He chose to spend his limited cash on a laptop with components that were not supported with open source... or he received the laptop for free. Either way, why should the rest of the development community be penalized, or have to make decisions based on what this guy owns? He should do more research first next time, and stop bitching about "poor me, I can't run a modem, somebody help me..."
The kernel is GPLed, if hardware vendors cannot figure out that it is to thier benifit to release the software, or release timly updates, the let darwin do his work on them...
get a life, sheesh...
Sounds like the internet....
embedded people, are they, like, fetuses?
But seriously (and to stay on topic), I am really excited about hammer too. 64 bit processors for the people! I hope the mobo manufacturs get some nice, commodity products out there so that hammer is a viable chioce for my desktop!
2. ???
3. Bankrupcy
I'm not sure this is the model they had in mind.
Overall, this is an excellent book, two thumbs up!
This seems kind of odd, or is it just "thumb" inflation. Two thumbs up does not mean what it used to...
Get real, I own a very small ISP, and there is next to no money to be made in that buisness. There is NO SUCH thing as free bandwidth! It costs me lots of money to buy my bandwidth. My customers pay me for thier usage, and I keep tabs on how much is used and when. Otherwise I would have one or two users killing the service for everyone else.
Now, a coop might be able to do such a thing if you have close proximity and can use wireless for distribution. But it requires that someone be responsible for the incoming line, and to deal with things, like DNS servers, email servers, IP allocation, or NATing and firewalling, etc. If you have a tight knit group of geeks, who do not quibble about usage and such, and you all can get along, you are set.
Nice idea in theory, but back to reality for the majority of people out there... In practice there are many more variables/problems/issues to deal with when running a coop or an small buisness. There is liability, accouting, infrastructure, capitalization, to name a few. The sad truth is that the Cable providers will charge as much as they can to skim the cream off the top of the customer base. Those with few other options are not going to start a Coop, or thier own ISP just to get unlimited bandwidth, it is too har and time consuming. The economics are not there...
Along the same vein, did you enjoy the Staturday Night Live parody of Star Trek? Did you consider it an honor to be parodied by John Bolushi?
I remember religiously watching reruns of Star Trek in the late afternoons as a 6-7 year old. I would have to stake out the TV early in the afternoon because if I left my sister would switch the stations. There was a standing rule that whoever is was in the room first got to pick the show. I credit you with the large bladder size that I have today. Thanks!
and if you have ever seen a head coming out you have new found respect for the female of the species. It is a good thing that women generaly only focus on the happy part (holding the baby) after a birth experience, otherwise humans would not have made it this far.
Now, what does this have to do with SPAM? Every spammer has a mother, somewhere. These mothers must have abused them as children
How do you justify your salery while posting to /.?
It is true! It only takes ONE successful hack, then it is out of the bottle, until they release the next upgrade. With pooled resources, ala distributed CPU power, the problem will be solved eventualy. These companies are not going to put in real expensive CPUs to do heavy duty crypto when they are selling a comodity product. The cost per unit is too great. There will always be more powerful CPUs then the ones in these appliances.
Thats Bill and Ted, and thier Excelent Venture, Dude!
Scenario 2: Bob and Ted
This venture is run by Bob and Alice, because it involved crypto.
My kids, my wife, and my mother do not have admin access on thier win2k machines (they each have thier own). If something breaks I have to fix it. Thats part of the deal for maintaining thier machines.... I aint got no time for no windoz viri, or spyware.