Wow, you just compared PC development to console development. Notice I confined my statements to the Windows OS. If you had to change the subject THAT MUCH just to make your point I don't even know why you bothered to reply in the first place. Of COURSE cross-platform console development is going to end up winning. I'll give you credit, you did use alot of words not to get modded up at all so I give you a C for effort. I also give you credit for attacking my post line-by-line rather than as a whole. You might as well have compared me to "a car" or "the Nazis" with all the insight you have lent to this discussion.
But hey, thanks once again for failing to actually provide answers to the questions. Maybe next time if you are unqualified to converse on a subject you will just read the articles and posts from those who are.
Lets recap: Me: Hey can anyone answer these questions? You: I'm self-important! Listen to me rant! Me: Check, thanks bub You: Pay attention to me, I want to be heard! I hate you for making fun of my ignorance!
Notice how I was not the only one to make fun of your little rant. You really should take a lesson here, go back to the drawing board, and think about what you know versus what you Know. I'm sure you will have to reply now to save face. Go ahead, I'll let you get the last word. I didn't intend to make you cry.
Where did I indicate that this was a good tactic? I only stated that it is easy to do this and why it is done this way. The cost difference between releasing a Region 0 English language title and localizing for Japan is basically infinity. And yes it is a defeatist attitude, but goes along with the larger picture I have painted about the fragmentation of the market. You will always have your importers and hardcore in each region who will go that extra mile and play the game in a foreign language, either by importing a Japanese language game for Americans or picking up the English language version for the Japanese. I gotta say, your IP should be banned from posting AC. You are wasting my time and only serving to confuse the casual reader. At least show some guts and log in.
So they DO have the significant difference of lookly significantly different? Cool. And one was designed by NCL and one by NoA? Cool, that's what I said.
First off, did you read the whole thing or stop when I said something bad about Nintendo? I noted Sony WILL likely succeed in all territories. Their console is designed to be for the lowest common denominator. Notice that it can be used in two different positions. It is inoffensive in every way.
The Xbox IS the same in all territories. Hey, don't you slashbots list that as one of the reasons for its failure in Japan? That its design is not ideal for Japanese households? Hmm, thats right you do! You do understand that this only underscores my points.
And this marketing decision about the NES vs the FamiCom had absolutely nothing to do with its success? I made no claims about the quality of the product, only that NoA at the time made a console with Americans in mind. The current Gamecube was clearly made without consideration for the American consumer as evidence by its tall design and flip top lid. It does not fit in the space allocated for components in an American entertainment center. Just like the Xbox doesn't fit in a Japanese home. Its the same!
In the end you didn't really disprove anything I said at all! Good times.
Actually "conversion costs" for an Xbox game can be considered negligible. An Xbox game can be set to the equivalent of Region 0 and the very same English version shipped to the US and UK can be shipped to Asia. Of course, if one were to fully localize a title, yeah that would get costly. And yes, that won't happen because the Japanese are traditionally very nationalistic and hostile to foreign firms so no American console can gain enough penetration to justify a full foreign loc. The fans of American type gaming will just have to play in English, much as the American fan of Japanese type games imports them and plays them in English. Except for the importing because the Xbox game would be Region 0 and sold in Japan. So not that much like it, but some.
When a company's financial situation is worsening, one tactic is to make it appear that it is the market as a whole that is suffering or shrinking and not the particular company's individual performance. Its a simple play to artificially hold up your company's stock, or at least drag everyone else down with you. You'll find that many American publishers have just announced significant profits for this past fiscal year or for the coming fiscal year while Nintendo posted their first quarterly loss in decades.
All I have ever said, and have been brutalized repeatedly for on this site, is that the American/Eurpoean markets are different from the Japanese. It is easy to show that the gamers have different tastes, a number of recent slashdot articles have proven that, and that the Japanese market is shrinking overall while the western markets continue to show growth. As soon as NoA starts treating American's as special again (as it did with the significant difference between the NES and FamiCom) they have a chance to recover. If they continue resting on their laurels and giving us the exact same hardware and software as is released Japan, their western market share will continue to shrink until they are totally irrelevent. My prediction all along has been the fragment of the market into one worldwide success and a different second place in Region 1 and 4 from Region 2. If the current trend continues the big winner will still be Sony, with MS and Nintendo ceasing to compete directly and each taking second in different parts of the world. The only question in my mind is will Nintendo be too stubborn to port their software to Playstation or Xbox when the Americans finally boot them out of the hardware business.
Maybe he was so disgusted with his team's performance to that point, and so frustrated with the pitcher's dominance, that he steps into the box and immediately hurls his bat at the pitcher?
So you can't actually answer any of my questions other than to go on a tangental rant? Thanks for the info! Next time rather than ask questions I would like answers to, I will just paste a bunch of random characters and see what kind of responses I get.
You could have at least tried to argue why you expect updates after a product is released as final. Do you have this expectation? If so, why? Do you have the unreasonable expectation that because one game is cross-platform, all should be? If so, why?
Like you said, its just all your opinion. The facts point to a game that didn't sell, and the players claim that it is due, in part, to the random expectation of continued development of a released game. But hey, thanks for the opinion!
I am not an Evercrackhead, so what are these bugs that just must be fixed? They released a game, your purchased it as-is and you continue to choose to pay for access to their servers. Does it crash frequently? Is performance not acceptable as per the posted minimum system requirements? Please be specific.
All I see here is another non-Windows game selling poorly, further fueling the economic arguement not to publish titles for non-Windows OS'.
I don't know where you live, but in every city here the bus companies ARE monopolys granted or operated by the government. You have done a great disservice to african-americans today.
Well this thread will contain hundreds of anecdotes and 0 posts about how this will actually hurt Freenet other than to say something brilliant along the lines of "if you aren't with us you are against us." Paypal is not a monopoly. Sack up and move on.
First off will be the two most homosexual games of E3:
#2 DDR with EyeToy support. You dance as per previous versions of DDR, but now you are dancing with yourself on the screen. Like some lame Billy Idol. Rather an even lamer Billy Idol.
#1 Tango X. Its a tango game. You and your buddy enter button combinations together in rhythm to make the characters on the screen dance together. You dance together. The characters are touching and holding and dipping. Sometime in the future, in someone's living room, the following is bound to be exclaimed, "Dude! Get the tango game out! I want to dance with you RIGHT NOW!"
I have to say it was definitely sexy watching those two guys dance together. Highlight of E3 for me.
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That same article points out that 96% of their revenue in the last quarter came from online ads. Are you willing to bet your future on revenue from online ads? Once again, IANACPA or financial advisor. YMMV, void where prohibited.
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Aww, boohoo. Its flamebait when the exact same evidence the grandparent used against SCO is turned against slashdot via OSDN and VA Software? Whats good for the goose is good for the gander kids. I thought/. was about the free exchange of ideas. Whoever modded that as flamebait should have their moderation priviledge revoked as a blatant abuser. My post contained nothing but facts, and the same facts that got the grandparent post modded +5. Thus proving once again, this website is full of shit and is truly as doomed to fail as SCO. I was modded not for being wrong, but for being so Right that it hurt.
LNUX at $1.94 - Where's the bottom?
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The remaining question for LNUX is "how low can it go"? If you just project the line out, LNUX goes to zero around late summer.
It's sad, in a way, to realize that the best thing slashdot can do is go away.
HA! Nice. I wonder if the VA Software stock situation would improve if they knew that the investor relations link on the OSDN contact page is broken. Who is running this show anyways? Personally I'd fire all the website staff, but that's just me.
Its actually pretty tight already. The largest group of vagrants still allowed into the show are retail clerks. For whatever reason they let the group of people most likely to include the dirtiest rotten fanboys into the show. Oh I know why, its so they can sit in line at the Nintendo booth and praise whatever POS they have on display that year. I am definitely in favor of blocking the retail clerks from attending.
There are 2 lessons to be learned here: #1 To get into E3 on the sly, take a job at a video game store. #2 Yes, expect to see further tightening of the rules. This year it was up to 2 forms of current proof of game based employment, online registration, photo id, on-site registration, and a strip search by the guys from America's Army out in front of the LACC.
Of course, if all this run-around has turned off enough users there will be an insignificant few actually doing the sharing on future P2P app #20. And just wait until the user's hardware is watching them as well! The goal for the copyright holder's side has never really been to eliminate the violations, but to eliminate them "enough."
The best thing is that there is no way to use the eye-toy without appearing utterly insane. You make a bunch of gestures at the TV!!11 Please always use the eye-toy with your shades open so your neighbors can laugh at you appropriately.
You know how someone looks driving and talking into a hands-free cell phone? Picture that, but talking at the TV. OMFG.
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Yeah this whole participating in competitions for money is just a fad. Look how much it hurts participants in:
y
Football
Football
Baseball
Basketball
Hocke
Poker
etc etc etc
Lets see, doing something you love with the potential to become rich beyond your wildest dreams. Yeah, the whole competition thing sucks.
Wow, you just compared PC development to console development. Notice I confined my statements to the Windows OS. If you had to change the subject THAT MUCH just to make your point I don't even know why you bothered to reply in the first place. Of COURSE cross-platform console development is going to end up winning. I'll give you credit, you did use alot of words not to get modded up at all so I give you a C for effort. I also give you credit for attacking my post line-by-line rather than as a whole. You might as well have compared me to "a car" or "the Nazis" with all the insight you have lent to this discussion.
But hey, thanks once again for failing to actually provide answers to the questions. Maybe next time if you are unqualified to converse on a subject you will just read the articles and posts from those who are.
Lets recap:
Me: Hey can anyone answer these questions?
You: I'm self-important! Listen to me rant!
Me: Check, thanks bub
You: Pay attention to me, I want to be heard! I hate you for making fun of my ignorance!
Notice how I was not the only one to make fun of your little rant. You really should take a lesson here, go back to the drawing board, and think about what you know versus what you Know. I'm sure you will have to reply now to save face. Go ahead, I'll let you get the last word. I didn't intend to make you cry.
Where did I indicate that this was a good tactic? I only stated that it is easy to do this and why it is done this way. The cost difference between releasing a Region 0 English language title and localizing for Japan is basically infinity. And yes it is a defeatist attitude, but goes along with the larger picture I have painted about the fragmentation of the market. You will always have your importers and hardcore in each region who will go that extra mile and play the game in a foreign language, either by importing a Japanese language game for Americans or picking up the English language version for the Japanese. I gotta say, your IP should be banned from posting AC. You are wasting my time and only serving to confuse the casual reader. At least show some guts and log in.
So they DO have the significant difference of lookly significantly different? Cool. And one was designed by NCL and one by NoA? Cool, that's what I said.
First off, did you read the whole thing or stop when I said something bad about Nintendo? I noted Sony WILL likely succeed in all territories. Their console is designed to be for the lowest common denominator. Notice that it can be used in two different positions. It is inoffensive in every way.
The Xbox IS the same in all territories. Hey, don't you slashbots list that as one of the reasons for its failure in Japan? That its design is not ideal for Japanese households? Hmm, thats right you do! You do understand that this only underscores my points.
And this marketing decision about the NES vs the FamiCom had absolutely nothing to do with its success? I made no claims about the quality of the product, only that NoA at the time made a console with Americans in mind. The current Gamecube was clearly made without consideration for the American consumer as evidence by its tall design and flip top lid. It does not fit in the space allocated for components in an American entertainment center. Just like the Xbox doesn't fit in a Japanese home. Its the same!
In the end you didn't really disprove anything I said at all! Good times.
Actually "conversion costs" for an Xbox game can be considered negligible. An Xbox game can be set to the equivalent of Region 0 and the very same English version shipped to the US and UK can be shipped to Asia. Of course, if one were to fully localize a title, yeah that would get costly. And yes, that won't happen because the Japanese are traditionally very nationalistic and hostile to foreign firms so no American console can gain enough penetration to justify a full foreign loc. The fans of American type gaming will just have to play in English, much as the American fan of Japanese type games imports them and plays them in English. Except for the importing because the Xbox game would be Region 0 and sold in Japan. So not that much like it, but some.
Whoops party foul. Mentioning respect for the law in any context on slashdot is always considered -1, Flamebait. You should read the FAQ page.
When a company's financial situation is worsening, one tactic is to make it appear that it is the market as a whole that is suffering or shrinking and not the particular company's individual performance. Its a simple play to artificially hold up your company's stock, or at least drag everyone else down with you. You'll find that many American publishers have just announced significant profits for this past fiscal year or for the coming fiscal year while Nintendo posted their first quarterly loss in decades.
All I have ever said, and have been brutalized repeatedly for on this site, is that the American/Eurpoean markets are different from the Japanese. It is easy to show that the gamers have different tastes, a number of recent slashdot articles have proven that, and that the Japanese market is shrinking overall while the western markets continue to show growth. As soon as NoA starts treating American's as special again (as it did with the significant difference between the NES and FamiCom) they have a chance to recover. If they continue resting on their laurels and giving us the exact same hardware and software as is released Japan, their western market share will continue to shrink until they are totally irrelevent. My prediction all along has been the fragment of the market into one worldwide success and a different second place in Region 1 and 4 from Region 2. If the current trend continues the big winner will still be Sony, with MS and Nintendo ceasing to compete directly and each taking second in different parts of the world. The only question in my mind is will Nintendo be too stubborn to port their software to Playstation or Xbox when the Americans finally boot them out of the hardware business.
Maybe he was so disgusted with his team's performance to that point, and so frustrated with the pitcher's dominance, that he steps into the box and immediately hurls his bat at the pitcher?
So you can't actually answer any of my questions other than to go on a tangental rant? Thanks for the info! Next time rather than ask questions I would like answers to, I will just paste a bunch of random characters and see what kind of responses I get.
You could have at least tried to argue why you expect updates after a product is released as final. Do you have this expectation? If so, why? Do you have the unreasonable expectation that because one game is cross-platform, all should be? If so, why?
Like you said, its just all your opinion. The facts point to a game that didn't sell, and the players claim that it is due, in part, to the random expectation of continued development of a released game. But hey, thanks for the opinion!
I am not an Evercrackhead, so what are these bugs that just must be fixed? They released a game, your purchased it as-is and you continue to choose to pay for access to their servers. Does it crash frequently? Is performance not acceptable as per the posted minimum system requirements? Please be specific.
All I see here is another non-Windows game selling poorly, further fueling the economic arguement not to publish titles for non-Windows OS'.
I don't know where you live, but in every city here the bus companies ARE monopolys granted or operated by the government. You have done a great disservice to african-americans today.
If you cannot justify, excuse, or mitigate torture, you just aren't trying hard enough. Don't give up.
Well this thread will contain hundreds of anecdotes and 0 posts about how this will actually hurt Freenet other than to say something brilliant along the lines of "if you aren't with us you are against us." Paypal is not a monopoly. Sack up and move on.
Aww, you flatter me!
From Mike Hawk's journal dated 5/14:
First off will be the two most homosexual games of E3:
#2 DDR with EyeToy support. You dance as per previous versions of DDR, but now you are dancing with yourself on the screen. Like some lame Billy Idol. Rather an even lamer Billy Idol.
#1 Tango X. Its a tango game. You and your buddy enter button combinations together in rhythm to make the characters on the screen dance together. You dance together. The characters are touching and holding and dipping. Sometime in the future, in someone's living room, the following is bound to be exclaimed, "Dude! Get the tango game out! I want to dance with you RIGHT NOW!"
I have to say it was definitely sexy watching those two guys dance together. Highlight of E3 for me.
That same article points out that 96% of their revenue in the last quarter came from online ads. Are you willing to bet your future on revenue from online ads? Once again, IANACPA or financial advisor. YMMV, void where prohibited.
Aww, boohoo. Its flamebait when the exact same evidence the grandparent used against SCO is turned against slashdot via OSDN and VA Software? Whats good for the goose is good for the gander kids. I thought /. was about the free exchange of ideas. Whoever modded that as flamebait should have their moderation priviledge revoked as a blatant abuser. My post contained nothing but facts, and the same facts that got the grandparent post modded +5. Thus proving once again, this website is full of shit and is truly as doomed to fail as SCO. I was modded not for being wrong, but for being so Right that it hurt.
The remaining question for LNUX is "how low can it go"? If you just project the line out, LNUX goes to zero around late summer.
It's sad, in a way, to realize that the best thing slashdot can do is go away.
HA! Nice. I wonder if the VA Software stock situation would improve if they knew that the investor relations link on the OSDN contact page is broken. Who is running this show anyways? Personally I'd fire all the website staff, but that's just me.
I guess the price will be somewhere near $250 per share on the day of the IPO and down around $1.94 about 4 years later. Be careful when investing in those tech stocks, you can get seriously burned. But this is just a guess, IANACPA or investment advisor. YMMV, void where prohibited.
Its actually pretty tight already. The largest group of vagrants still allowed into the show are retail clerks. For whatever reason they let the group of people most likely to include the dirtiest rotten fanboys into the show. Oh I know why, its so they can sit in line at the Nintendo booth and praise whatever POS they have on display that year. I am definitely in favor of blocking the retail clerks from attending.
There are 2 lessons to be learned here:
#1 To get into E3 on the sly, take a job at a video game store.
#2 Yes, expect to see further tightening of the rules. This year it was up to 2 forms of current proof of game based employment, online registration, photo id, on-site registration, and a strip search by the guys from America's Army out in front of the LACC.
Biggest lamer ever. I look at that and you can stop trying to tell me Nintendo isn't for children. Is that a grown man or a 6 year old girl?
Of course, if all this run-around has turned off enough users there will be an insignificant few actually doing the sharing on future P2P app #20. And just wait until the user's hardware is watching them as well! The goal for the copyright holder's side has never really been to eliminate the violations, but to eliminate them "enough."
The genie is indeed going back in the bottle.
The best thing is that there is no way to use the eye-toy without appearing utterly insane. You make a bunch of gestures at the TV!!11 Please always use the eye-toy with your shades open so your neighbors can laugh at you appropriately.
You know how someone looks driving and talking into a hands-free cell phone? Picture that, but talking at the TV. OMFG.