I attended during 2001-2003. In my campus the C++ teacher was Asian. I was a class of one taking CEET about half way through. The CAD program dropped down to about 3 people, and the programmers had 3. We all had to take our academic classes together at some point. The people in the programming course would always make jokes about "mammary leaks" and "C Press Press". There were other jokes, but I've long forgotten what they were.
Otherwise I agree with your assessment. It's overall a slightly above mediocre school in some respects, but I don't think it's worth the price, especially since I would see people with mental disabilities who had no mental capacity to do the work, be in these programs and get pushed along all because they had money.
Also, when I started I was doing 4 days a week for classes and they decided half way through they could cut that down to 3 days a week! That went over well with everyone. Their response was that if we didn't like it, we could leave, and they'd get to keep the money that we paid up until that point anyway. The three days I did go were longer, but I still ended up missing about 2 hours a week from my core classes.
ITT at one time did have a good reputation and that was because the education was actually pretty good for a tech school at the time. They rode that reputation into the grave, dug it up, pissed on, reburied, and repeated multiple times. The sad part is, in my local area, ITT is still one of the better tech schools for EE's. I get to deal with the new crop coming out of tech schools and they're all way more dumb than I was when I graduated. It's a scary thought. The people from ITT still have a slight advantage over the other schools, but being slightly better than a pile of rubbish isn't a goal post people should aim for.
Wikipedia needs to ban all these editors, because it is illegal to try to blackball somebody from an industry because you don't like what they did in a prior job somewhere else.
And how are they trying to blackball someone from an entire industry? From what I can tell they're just trying to get him removed from what is essentially an executive board. The guy still holds a job at Tesla Motors anyway.
They're attempting to overstep the authority of their roles in a way that violates the rights of the person they're trying to have cast out.
Do what now? What rights are being violated? Had you read anything and not jumped to a knee jerk reaction, you'd see that they clearly understand what they're doing has zero legal weight. If you had a "bad" boss and the "majority" of the "workforce" got together to go above his head to have him removed, or at the very least their concerns heard, I'd say that's a great thing. This doesn't mean anyone has to do as they ask, you know.
Maybe the guy is a [bad person], I don't know.
Yes, that much is obvious. You just don't know anything.
I do know in this case that other [bad people] are attempting to violate his rights.
Do you know that? It seems to me that it's already been pointed out that they have no power to violate his rights in this context. I also wonder why you feel that people shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinion of dissent uniformly.
That is the first thing I thought about. Then the second thing I thought about was normal rain fall. This house is not a practical design for anyone anywhere. However as a proof of concept, the ideas behind it are neat.
It's the warehouse employees who get shit on the most. While I'm sure there are issues in the office, the warehouse employees are expected to meet ever rising quotas at the cost of safety - the only way to meet some of the quotas is to ignore safety rules. Employee death or injury is not unheard of. While the top tier might not be driving for these metrics, they don't have the right people keeping a hold of the reigns at the lower level.
Looking over Beta I noticed one big annoying issue: Comment History.
I can not figure out how to view the past discussion I partook in. I can view the whole page as a whole, but not just the part I was involved in. Classic makes this pretty easy to do. I sometimes like going back to see what nuggets (or turds depending on your view point) of wisdom I've left behind and why I wrote what I wrote. Using Beta, I have no way to figure out why I wrote what I wrote.
My wife is a PR professional who would never make such as stupid mistake, because she's a professional to the core at all times.
At all times? So she never lets her hair down, says a few off the cuff marks that are more than likely non-PC? Puh-leeze. The mistake this woman made was doing it so... publicly. Each and every single one of us here have said similar things before and then laughed about it.
If you look at the rest of her jokes they were in context to something. Most of them I don't get because the context is missing. The aids thing is insensitive, but meh. The aids epidemic in Africa is mostly with the black population there. The white population has the education to know what lurks around the corner, the black population doesn't. Again, context and very insensitive, but I bet at least half of us lulled about it.
While the word "mold" can sound rigid, I don't view it that way. As a boss I need to make sure I'm getting the best qualities out of every member of any team I happen to have working under me. I'm looking to make them a better person overall. It's big task, but when you manage to whittle down on their negative qualities, only the positive ones shine through. It's amazing how much better things function. Teamwork starts to happen organically, everyone has a positive attitude most of the time, productivity is up without the need to overwork them.
By the way, when you say things like,
Of course. While you're at it, why don't you tell me the story of your divorce. I'm sure your version is the gospel truth, and your ex-wife's is a bunch of twisted lies.
I'm just going to tell you to fuck off in the future. You aren't even trying to have a conversation. You'd rather rally against an idea with some negative preconceived notions.
Furthermore, when you do try to work with them to make things better, it's met with resistance. I see this more with the older crowd than I do the younger crowd.
I've seen all types of people. From my experience the older crowd can be the hardest to work with. It's not that I'm inflexible, it's that they are. I can't work with you if you resist me every step of the way and can't be constructive about it. I have literally had people from the older crowd yell at the top of their lungs to me so everyone can here, "I will fight you on this!", all because I was trying to make positive changes to their existing documentation we have in place using what knowledge that person had.
Granted this is anecdotal evidence and could be more of a sign of our interviewing and hiring practices, but I often find for skilled positions the younger workers tend to typically be the better choice.
Here's why:
More often than not, the older works have the jargon, have the theory, and can talk your ear off about all day long. When it comes down to being motivated enough to apply it, they either can't or just don't care. Furthermore, when you do try to work with them to make things better, it's met with resistance. I see this more with the older crowd than I do the younger crowd.
The younger crowd tends to know nothing, but are typically willing to learn. If you're willing to learn, I will teach you and mold you.
I think the sweet spot are the experienced workers who haven't hit the burn out stage yet. Now that I think about it, this is probably what has happened with the older crowd - they are burned out. They need the money to survive, but previous jobs have all but crushed them.
Non-skilled positions? Don't bother going for the young guys. They get bored easily and want to goof off all day. Older people who take these jobs need the money, understand the value of hard work, and typically are willing to learn.
We do sometimes find people of each generation who don't fit what we normally see. It's rare, but it happens.
Do our current offering of combustion vehicles have the capability of being zero emission? No. Do our electric vehicles have the capability of being zero emission? Yes. If the possibility is easily there, then I don't see a reason why the term shouldn't stay.
That can be dangerous for you. Many of your colleagues might not be trustworthy and will tell their boss what is going on before you have a chance to say anything. I know this from first hand experience, as I run a team and there's always one guy everyone talks to, but he's a total tattle-tale. It doesn't matter what anyone tells him, it will be repeated to EVERYONE.
Be careful which colleagues you tell. Word of mouth can travel quickly.
I was going to use my mod points in this thread, but I tire of seeing people like you complain about the moderation.
Look, mod points are supposed to be used to bring about conversation to the top, whether you agree with it or not. If you see a comment that is, or has sparked debate, moderate it to the top so discussion can continue. That is the whole point. The fact that you don't know this means that you more than likely have never gotten mod points. Every time you get them, it gives you a link to the guidelines.
So the fact that something is moderated to 5 doesn't mean anything other than a few people thought the comment deserved to be promoted to the top to encourage more discussion.
Why would you contact the CFO with such a trivial issue? They're at the top of the food chain, dealing with more important matters. There should be accountants (lower level employees) to deal with issues such as this. Your best course of action should have been to email one of the lower level employees and CC their direct manager.
Certain comments deserve a +10 (or 11 if you prefer). This is one of them. You have hit the nail on the head. I do exactly this with our engineers where I work. They're terrible at writing documentation that other people in the building need to read. Some of the stuff I have seen is absolutely abysmal. What I decided to do was to be the guy that makes everything pretty and easy to digest before official releases for them. Over time a few of them have come to thank me for this, as it saves them a lot of headaches. The net result is that everyone looks good.
It was a mixed bag of things. Some people got refunds, some got coupons towards other games, some got jack shit. Searching Google shows about as much in the first few links.
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I attended during 2001-2003. In my campus the C++ teacher was Asian. I was a class of one taking CEET about half way through. The CAD program dropped down to about 3 people, and the programmers had 3. We all had to take our academic classes together at some point. The people in the programming course would always make jokes about "mammary leaks" and "C Press Press". There were other jokes, but I've long forgotten what they were.
Otherwise I agree with your assessment. It's overall a slightly above mediocre school in some respects, but I don't think it's worth the price, especially since I would see people with mental disabilities who had no mental capacity to do the work, be in these programs and get pushed along all because they had money.
Also, when I started I was doing 4 days a week for classes and they decided half way through they could cut that down to 3 days a week! That went over well with everyone. Their response was that if we didn't like it, we could leave, and they'd get to keep the money that we paid up until that point anyway. The three days I did go were longer, but I still ended up missing about 2 hours a week from my core classes.
ITT at one time did have a good reputation and that was because the education was actually pretty good for a tech school at the time. They rode that reputation into the grave, dug it up, pissed on, reburied, and repeated multiple times. The sad part is, in my local area, ITT is still one of the better tech schools for EE's. I get to deal with the new crop coming out of tech schools and they're all way more dumb than I was when I graduated. It's a scary thought. The people from ITT still have a slight advantage over the other schools, but being slightly better than a pile of rubbish isn't a goal post people should aim for.
Wikipedia needs to ban all these editors, because it is illegal to try to blackball somebody from an industry because you don't like what they did in a prior job somewhere else.
And how are they trying to blackball someone from an entire industry? From what I can tell they're just trying to get him removed from what is essentially an executive board. The guy still holds a job at Tesla Motors anyway.
They're attempting to overstep the authority of their roles in a way that violates the rights of the person they're trying to have cast out.
Do what now? What rights are being violated? Had you read anything and not jumped to a knee jerk reaction, you'd see that they clearly understand what they're doing has zero legal weight. If you had a "bad" boss and the "majority" of the "workforce" got together to go above his head to have him removed, or at the very least their concerns heard, I'd say that's a great thing. This doesn't mean anyone has to do as they ask, you know.
Maybe the guy is a [bad person], I don't know.
Yes, that much is obvious. You just don't know anything.
I do know in this case that other [bad people] are attempting to violate his rights.
Do you know that? It seems to me that it's already been pointed out that they have no power to violate his rights in this context. I also wonder why you feel that people shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinion of dissent uniformly.
I just can't ignore the errors anymore. This is just stupidly bad.
So they're essentially going back to Youtubes roots, just that they're charging for it.
That is the first thing I thought about. Then the second thing I thought about was normal rain fall. This house is not a practical design for anyone anywhere. However as a proof of concept, the ideas behind it are neat.
I love how all of the comments so far are about the god awful editing of the title instead of the actual story itself.
Eh... Screw the whole thing.
It's the warehouse employees who get shit on the most. While I'm sure there are issues in the office, the warehouse employees are expected to meet ever rising quotas at the cost of safety - the only way to meet some of the quotas is to ignore safety rules. Employee death or injury is not unheard of. While the top tier might not be driving for these metrics, they don't have the right people keeping a hold of the reigns at the lower level.
Most people don't drive their motorcycles when it's raining in the first place. There's a reason for that...
I can not figure out how to view the past discussion I partook in. I can view the whole page as a whole, but not just the part I was involved in. Classic makes this pretty easy to do. I sometimes like going back to see what nuggets (or turds depending on your view point) of wisdom I've left behind and why I wrote what I wrote. Using Beta, I have no way to figure out why I wrote what I wrote.
I bet that 99% of them violate their faith in some way on a daily basis. Let's not kid ourselves here.
My wife is a PR professional who would never make such as stupid mistake, because she's a professional to the core at all times.
At all times? So she never lets her hair down, says a few off the cuff marks that are more than likely non-PC? Puh-leeze. The mistake this woman made was doing it so... publicly. Each and every single one of us here have said similar things before and then laughed about it.
If you look at the rest of her jokes they were in context to something. Most of them I don't get because the context is missing. The aids thing is insensitive, but meh. The aids epidemic in Africa is mostly with the black population there. The white population has the education to know what lurks around the corner, the black population doesn't. Again, context and very insensitive, but I bet at least half of us lulled about it.
Only when you hit 88mph.
While the word "mold" can sound rigid, I don't view it that way. As a boss I need to make sure I'm getting the best qualities out of every member of any team I happen to have working under me. I'm looking to make them a better person overall. It's big task, but when you manage to whittle down on their negative qualities, only the positive ones shine through. It's amazing how much better things function. Teamwork starts to happen organically, everyone has a positive attitude most of the time, productivity is up without the need to overwork them.
By the way, when you say things like,
Of course. While you're at it, why don't you tell me the story of your divorce. I'm sure your version is the gospel truth, and your ex-wife's is a bunch of twisted lies.
I'm just going to tell you to fuck off in the future. You aren't even trying to have a conversation. You'd rather rally against an idea with some negative preconceived notions.
Hey, thanks for ignoring the part where I said:
Furthermore, when you do try to work with them to make things better, it's met with resistance. I see this more with the older crowd than I do the younger crowd.
I've seen all types of people. From my experience the older crowd can be the hardest to work with. It's not that I'm inflexible, it's that they are. I can't work with you if you resist me every step of the way and can't be constructive about it. I have literally had people from the older crowd yell at the top of their lungs to me so everyone can here, "I will fight you on this!", all because I was trying to make positive changes to their existing documentation we have in place using what knowledge that person had.
Granted this is anecdotal evidence and could be more of a sign of our interviewing and hiring practices, but I often find for skilled positions the younger workers tend to typically be the better choice.
Here's why:
More often than not, the older works have the jargon, have the theory, and can talk your ear off about all day long. When it comes down to being motivated enough to apply it, they either can't or just don't care. Furthermore, when you do try to work with them to make things better, it's met with resistance. I see this more with the older crowd than I do the younger crowd.
The younger crowd tends to know nothing, but are typically willing to learn. If you're willing to learn, I will teach you and mold you.
I think the sweet spot are the experienced workers who haven't hit the burn out stage yet. Now that I think about it, this is probably what has happened with the older crowd - they are burned out. They need the money to survive, but previous jobs have all but crushed them.
Non-skilled positions? Don't bother going for the young guys. They get bored easily and want to goof off all day. Older people who take these jobs need the money, understand the value of hard work, and typically are willing to learn.
We do sometimes find people of each generation who don't fit what we normally see. It's rare, but it happens.
Here you go anon, botfly removal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuyYhCTDMo
Do our current offering of combustion vehicles have the capability of being zero emission? No. Do our electric vehicles have the capability of being zero emission? Yes. If the possibility is easily there, then I don't see a reason why the term shouldn't stay.
That can be dangerous for you. Many of your colleagues might not be trustworthy and will tell their boss what is going on before you have a chance to say anything. I know this from first hand experience, as I run a team and there's always one guy everyone talks to, but he's a total tattle-tale. It doesn't matter what anyone tells him, it will be repeated to EVERYONE.
Be careful which colleagues you tell. Word of mouth can travel quickly.
I was going to use my mod points in this thread, but I tire of seeing people like you complain about the moderation.
Look, mod points are supposed to be used to bring about conversation to the top, whether you agree with it or not. If you see a comment that is, or has sparked debate, moderate it to the top so discussion can continue. That is the whole point. The fact that you don't know this means that you more than likely have never gotten mod points. Every time you get them, it gives you a link to the guidelines.
So the fact that something is moderated to 5 doesn't mean anything other than a few people thought the comment deserved to be promoted to the top to encourage more discussion.
you kind of have been able to do with the iPhone already,
I hope you see the issue there. People don't like having to jump through any hoops when they know there's an easier alternative.
Why would you contact the CFO with such a trivial issue? They're at the top of the food chain, dealing with more important matters. There should be accountants (lower level employees) to deal with issues such as this. Your best course of action should have been to email one of the lower level employees and CC their direct manager.
And not cause cancer.
Certain comments deserve a +10 (or 11 if you prefer). This is one of them. You have hit the nail on the head. I do exactly this with our engineers where I work. They're terrible at writing documentation that other people in the building need to read. Some of the stuff I have seen is absolutely abysmal. What I decided to do was to be the guy that makes everything pretty and easy to digest before official releases for them. Over time a few of them have come to thank me for this, as it saves them a lot of headaches. The net result is that everyone looks good.
It was a mixed bag of things. Some people got refunds, some got coupons towards other games, some got jack shit. Searching Google shows about as much in the first few links.