What the hell is this article talking about? I run linux on a 400 Mhz pentium 2. Okay, so I don't use a window manager, but it flies! I tried KDE but it was so slow and it took forever for applications to launch. But hey, that's microsoft's fault for making windows artificially fast. I've seen Windows Xp running on a 3 Ghz and it was so slow and it crashed 4 times in 3 minutes. What crap!
End sarchasm.
I've always noticed linux had slower performance compared to windows. I dare you to on a dual boot actually see how long it takes to boot, run the same apps such as mozilla, and shut down. Yeah, I use linux for some reason beyond me, but if it wasn't running on a fast processor, I'd have no patience for it.
IMHO, KDE and Gnome are slow but Ice looks like crap and makes the system annoying to use. All I want in a window manager is something that's fast and stylish and doesn't slow everything down to a trickle. Even with the themes for IceWM it still looks like crap that a 5 year old could have drawn in windows paint.
And all this talk about how microsoft is artificially fast as being negative is BS. I'd rather it feel fast when running applications than slow when it's compiling software. I use my computer to run applications and that's what I care about. Using windows or linux makes no difference to me as long as I can run good applications.
How so? All this technology enables is the ability to read the tag off the plates more accurately. Search and seizure is, well, just that. They are not searching your vehical, just identifying it.
I've considered buying an Xbox and turning into one of these, but it seems that all this stuff is still pretty flakey to get it working together harmoniously. Then again, it's linux and when does linux ever work harmoniously? The cost also seems high for something that just records television. Then again, people who buy TiVo's apparently swear by them.
(I use and prefer linux so it'd be like modding down a windows user for bitching about windows)
I like how they post lost of screenshots running window managers. They could have just said "it runs KDE." It's not like their KDE is anything special, it's the underlying structure that's different. Then again, every distro does this. However, this distro is targetting people who most likely understand this concept already.
That's a good point. I su pretty frequently actually and type it in when I install software and change settings and such. The main difference preventing a virus like this affecting me are:
1. Such an exploit to get infected doesn't exist or hasn't been found on linux 2. Hardware firewall should stop it 3. I'd have to su to install it even if I did download it in an infected package. All though everything installed comes from source or rpms from mirror servers, so I trust them somewhat (more than kazaa on windows for that matter)
But you're very correct, linux is not immune to viruses, but it's architecture makes it less susceptible.
Everyone will have two devices, their "box" and their "portable." The "boxes" will probably be something like a laptop. It's small, but usually stationary. A home will have several of these, maybe one for every person, and they all will be wirelessly connected. They will easily share data and the network will be controlled by a wireless hub that the internet provider, cable or phone company, will set up. Then their portable will be like a phone. It may include a camera and audio player. It will sync effortlessly with their box.
Some of this is already here with bluetooth and wifi, but it's still not integrated as best as it should. I wouldn't be surprised if microsoft has similar predictions and they're trying to incorporate this into to future windows versions. This could be a technology that could promote linux if big companies like SuSE or mandrake pour some money into it. However, seemless integration and linux haven't always gone together.
I'm wondering what's missing from Windows 98 (first edition?)? I don't remember any amazing technologies other than the fast shutdown that didn't disconnect network connections properly and caused freezing on many computers. This place I worked at had this computer. The shutdown process was start, shutdown, okay, wait..., unplug computer.
Keep in mind this is a promotion, so it's probably not worth it at all for them to make a linux port of this software that facilitates the downloading. Now of course they could just run it all through the browser and ensure platform independence, but then how would they enforce their DRM?
It's probably better for them that they don't cater (no pun intended) to the linux crowd. They'd have to train their crack staff on how to handle arguments such as
"What?? This is DRM'ed? Let me explain how things should be..."
or
"Windows? Why are you forcing your closed source proprietary crap..."
Their PR department is too busy dealing with this "health thing" to need to worry about that.
Yeah, windows has cryptic commands too, but how often are they used. In *nix's, solving a problem might require the use of a cryptic command where in windows, it's point and click here and there and it's fixed.
The windows gui knows to an extent what's going on and has the ability to change settings and such. Linux on the other hand was designed not to require such levels of complication of the gui, but rather a bunch of.conf files here and there. Those drake wizards mandrake users use, for example, take the cryptic command headache away from the user and makes changing settings like from the windows control panel.
My point is that in linux, you WILL HAVE TO use commands more frequently than in windows to fix a problem. However, that may not be a bad thing as it doesn't require a configuration app to change settings. But for the beginner, this gets confusing. And man pages do not help at all when you're a beginner.
And btw, when kde crashes, I can't make any more sense out of the error messages than the ones that come from windows xp. Thank god for xkill though.
I'm using mandrake 10. I decided on this distro because it's the easiest I've found and I wanted to introduce myself with my hands held. I've heard of prelinking and I've googled for it but I haven't found anything that can easily explain how it works and how it's used. Most stuff I've read on it just says to "use it." If anyone knows much about it or can point me and I'm sure many other people in its path that would be appriciated.
I wish these were incorporated into linux more. I don't care what anyone says, comparing windows and linux on the same machine has always shown to ME that windows seems a lot faster. Applications take longer to load in linux. Mozilla for example, takes longer to load than it did in windows on the same computer. Other applications that I can't compare directly seem to take a while when they're just small apps.
Aparently, windows caches a bunch of stuff and has a bunch other little hacks that allows this. So why can't linux and the kde people do this. They've copied everything else, why not this?
Before you mod me as flamebait or troll, I switched over to linux a while ago and I have no intention on going back to windows. I'm not some ms fanboy bitching about my 10 minute experience with linux. All I'm saying is that here are some points where linux annoys me.
Don't bash products that are old versions if new ones are freely available.
WMP 9 was a good product. I used it all the time to catagorize over 2500 mp3s. A good tool is required to organize everything. Yeah, I'm clean and every artist and every album is in its neatly categorized directory. Now that I've switched to linux, I'm missing a program with the same functionality.
I'm using JuK right now. It comes bundled with KDE in the multimedia package. It does sort songs by their tags and does an okay job, but not as nicely as iTunes or WMP9. It is smaller though and doesn't take as many resources and it has a nice little icon in the tray. It would be smart of KDE to put more effort in this project as this is an application people would care about in terms of "I want to switch. Can I switch?"
It's all about choice. I don't want to be forced to use a toasting rack and heating elements from the same manufacturer. I want choice. Choice is good! And when I turn my toaster off, I want to type
[user@localtoaster/dev/tst0]# unmount/mnt/toaster [user@localtoaster/dev/tst0]# halt
To me, that's the only way things should be shut off. Any other way shouldn't even be an option.
If I had a nickel for every article I've read bashing windows and office, we'll, I'd be as rich as microsoft. I was hoping for a little more inside dirt on the company. The part whe he said Bill Gates actually talked to him was totally lacking in details. Damnit, what a waste of a read. I've read people complaining about reboots and crashes for years. Just a little bit of dirt on the company would have made it worth the read. Something like how he saw Gates slip on a banana peel or was walking around with his fly down would have been wonderful.
You're saying that this camera has no market because the average person wouldn't spend this kind of money on a camera? Well it's not meant for the average consumer. They have the rebel for that. This is a professional model.
Is this something new? A professional model camera that is expensive but worth every penny to a professional photographer.
"Sorry cannon, $1500 to take a picture?"
What about "sorry mercedes, $75,000 to drive to Taco Bell"?
You're argument is baseless because you're implying canon only makes expensive $1500 cameras when this is clearly wrong. Companies like canon have been in photography for years and their higher price comes with years of quality and service.
Or you were joking, I can't tell. It's too late for sarcasm.
He said he uses linux most of the time so I'm sure he uses windows when he needs to. He's probably got some application that he can't use in linux.
If you're post was to mean "stop bitching and use NTFS" then I agree with you. This necessity for open source gets annoying sometimes when it comes to something like a file system. What actual limitations is he going to incure using NTFS that he wouldn't incure while using an open fs in windows using add-ons to support it? I think this guy's just being difficult.
If you're post was to mean "you should stop using windows because it's bad" then that's pretty near sighted since people use windows because they have to for reasons they can't control. I think you meant the former so I don't mean any insults.
My opinion? I use fat32 to exchange files between windows and linux. I could use NTFS, but I haven't read up on linux's recent NTFS support so I haven't been able to make the decision. I would prefer to use NTFS if it's faster in windows and linux, but right now, "if it ain't broke then don't fix it" seems to be work fine.
Actually, regular voting is open source if you think about it. The ballot is checked off and goes into a box Everyone can see the process and how it works. Using proprietary machines is like giving your vote to an employee of a private company who hauls them off in a van and then reports the tally. If these machines were based off open source software, then you could possibly have a huge number of developers working on the project in their spare time that diebold could never compete with. Think of how many people would be going through the code to find mistakes.
I don't think we should imediatley switch over, but slowly as to allow many people the chance to look over the code and find bugs or backdoors. The system doesn't need to be that overly complicated either. We're not talking about installing a huge linux environment on these but rather something from emebeded linux.
Going open source shouldn't be the issue here, it's why we went to a closed source like diebold that is what's the question.
According to microsoft it's easy, inexpensive, robust, and very stable. Shit, microsoft never lies.
Seriously though, I'd recommend java. You can do it for free and it's a language that's used. She can start on the console and get comfortable with that and then move on to swing if she wants to get into the gui. If she used the jre, she'll have to use the command line so that'll give her some experience in that.
You can even ease things up by using ant if she gets thing complicated with a lot of different classes. And the best part is, she she ever moves over to linux, everything will move over with her without recompiling or anything.
I've taken two computer science courses with java so far and I found it to be relatively easy for the simple stuff. I never used any IDE, just wordpad and ant and I was dealing with apps that consisted of over a dozen classes and using text editors made it easy enough.
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What the hell is this article talking about? I run linux on a 400 Mhz pentium 2. Okay, so I don't use a window manager, but it flies! I tried KDE but it was so slow and it took forever for applications to launch. But hey, that's microsoft's fault for making windows artificially fast. I've seen Windows Xp running on a 3 Ghz and it was so slow and it crashed 4 times in 3 minutes. What crap!
End sarchasm.
I've always noticed linux had slower performance compared to windows. I dare you to on a dual boot actually see how long it takes to boot, run the same apps such as mozilla, and shut down. Yeah, I use linux for some reason beyond me, but if it wasn't running on a fast processor, I'd have no patience for it.
IMHO, KDE and Gnome are slow but Ice looks like crap and makes the system annoying to use. All I want in a window manager is something that's fast and stylish and doesn't slow everything down to a trickle. Even with the themes for IceWM it still looks like crap that a 5 year old could have drawn in windows paint.
And all this talk about how microsoft is artificially fast as being negative is BS. I'd rather it feel fast when running applications than slow when it's compiling software. I use my computer to run applications and that's what I care about. Using windows or linux makes no difference to me as long as I can run good applications.
How so? All this technology enables is the ability to read the tag off the plates more accurately. Search and seizure is, well, just that. They are not searching your vehical, just identifying it.
shut up; no one wants to hear it.
at least it's not .8#.NET
Did you?
That's why you buy one from TiVo.
I've considered buying an Xbox and turning into one of these, but it seems that all this stuff is still pretty flakey to get it working together harmoniously. Then again, it's linux and when does linux ever work harmoniously? The cost also seems high for something that just records television. Then again, people who buy TiVo's apparently swear by them.
(I use and prefer linux so it'd be like modding down a windows user for bitching about windows)
Isn't hardware going to be free pretty soon though?
I like how they post lost of screenshots running window managers. They could have just said "it runs KDE." It's not like their KDE is anything special, it's the underlying structure that's different. Then again, every distro does this. However, this distro is targetting people who most likely understand this concept already.
That's a good point. I su pretty frequently actually and type it in when I install software and change settings and such. The main difference preventing a virus like this affecting me are:
1. Such an exploit to get infected doesn't exist or hasn't been found on linux
2. Hardware firewall should stop it
3. I'd have to su to install it even if I did download it in an infected package. All though everything installed comes from source or rpms from mirror servers, so I trust them somewhat (more than kazaa on windows for that matter)
But you're very correct, linux is not immune to viruses, but it's architecture makes it less susceptible.
Haha, I'm running linux! na na na na naaa na
Everyone will have two devices, their "box" and their "portable." The "boxes" will probably be something like a laptop. It's small, but usually stationary. A home will have several of these, maybe one for every person, and they all will be wirelessly connected. They will easily share data and the network will be controlled by a wireless hub that the internet provider, cable or phone company, will set up. Then their portable will be like a phone. It may include a camera and audio player. It will sync effortlessly with their box.
Some of this is already here with bluetooth and wifi, but it's still not integrated as best as it should. I wouldn't be surprised if microsoft has similar predictions and they're trying to incorporate this into to future windows versions. This could be a technology that could promote linux if big companies like SuSE or mandrake pour some money into it. However, seemless integration and linux haven't always gone together.
This is just my prediction, take it or leave it.
I'm wondering what's missing from Windows 98 (first edition?)? I don't remember any amazing technologies other than the fast shutdown that didn't disconnect network connections properly and caused freezing on many computers. This place I worked at had this computer. The shutdown process was start, shutdown, okay, wait..., unplug computer.
Keep in mind this is a promotion, so it's probably not worth it at all for them to make a linux port of this software that facilitates the downloading. Now of course they could just run it all through the browser and ensure platform independence, but then how would they enforce their DRM?
It's probably better for them that they don't cater (no pun intended) to the linux crowd. They'd have to train their crack staff on how to handle arguments such as
"What?? This is DRM'ed? Let me explain how things should be..."
or
"Windows? Why are you forcing your closed source proprietary crap..."
Their PR department is too busy dealing with this "health thing" to need to worry about that.
Yeah, windows has cryptic commands too, but how often are they used. In *nix's, solving a problem might require the use of a cryptic command where in windows, it's point and click here and there and it's fixed.
.conf files here and there. Those drake wizards mandrake users use, for example, take the cryptic command headache away from the user and makes changing settings like from the windows control panel.
The windows gui knows to an extent what's going on and has the ability to change settings and such. Linux on the other hand was designed not to require such levels of complication of the gui, but rather a bunch of
My point is that in linux, you WILL HAVE TO use commands more frequently than in windows to fix a problem. However, that may not be a bad thing as it doesn't require a configuration app to change settings. But for the beginner, this gets confusing. And man pages do not help at all when you're a beginner.
And btw, when kde crashes, I can't make any more sense out of the error messages than the ones that come from windows xp. Thank god for xkill though.
I'm using mandrake 10. I decided on this distro because it's the easiest I've found and I wanted to introduce myself with my hands held. I've heard of prelinking and I've googled for it but I haven't found anything that can easily explain how it works and how it's used. Most stuff I've read on it just says to "use it." If anyone knows much about it or can point me and I'm sure many other people in its path that would be appriciated.
I wish these were incorporated into linux more. I don't care what anyone says, comparing windows and linux on the same machine has always shown to ME that windows seems a lot faster. Applications take longer to load in linux. Mozilla for example, takes longer to load than it did in windows on the same computer. Other applications that I can't compare directly seem to take a while when they're just small apps.
Aparently, windows caches a bunch of stuff and has a bunch other little hacks that allows this. So why can't linux and the kde people do this. They've copied everything else, why not this?
Before you mod me as flamebait or troll, I switched over to linux a while ago and I have no intention on going back to windows. I'm not some ms fanboy bitching about my 10 minute experience with linux. All I'm saying is that here are some points where linux annoys me.
Don't bash products that are old versions if new ones are freely available.
WMP 9 was a good product. I used it all the time to catagorize over 2500 mp3s. A good tool is required to organize everything. Yeah, I'm clean and every artist and every album is in its neatly categorized directory. Now that I've switched to linux, I'm missing a program with the same functionality.
I'm using JuK right now. It comes bundled with KDE in the multimedia package. It does sort songs by their tags and does an okay job, but not as nicely as iTunes or WMP9. It is smaller though and doesn't take as many resources and it has a nice little icon in the tray. It would be smart of KDE to put more effort in this project as this is an application people would care about in terms of "I want to switch. Can I switch?"
It's all about choice. I don't want to be forced to use a toasting rack and heating elements from the same manufacturer. I want choice. Choice is good! And when I turn my toaster off, I want to type
/dev/tst0]# unmount /mnt/toaster /dev/tst0]# halt
[user@localtoaster
[user@localtoaster
To me, that's the only way things should be shut off. Any other way shouldn't even be an option.
Yeah, it would have never installed in the first place.
If I had a nickel for every article I've read bashing windows and office, we'll, I'd be as rich as microsoft. I was hoping for a little more inside dirt on the company. The part whe he said Bill Gates actually talked to him was totally lacking in details. Damnit, what a waste of a read. I've read people complaining about reboots and crashes for years. Just a little bit of dirt on the company would have made it worth the read. Something like how he saw Gates slip on a banana peel or was walking around with his fly down would have been wonderful.
That said, anyone got any dirt on these guys?
Yeah, that's what's delaying longhorn so much.
You dick! The proper way to be sarcastic is to use the Insert phrase here !!!!!
.NET sarcasm tag. Stop forcing your evil mono culture on me m$ fanboy!
You were using the Microsoft
Now get with the program!
You're saying that this camera has no market because the average person wouldn't spend this kind of money on a camera? Well it's not meant for the average consumer. They have the rebel for that. This is a professional model.
Is this something new? A professional model camera that is expensive but worth every penny to a professional photographer.
"Sorry cannon, $1500 to take a picture?"
What about "sorry mercedes, $75,000 to drive to Taco Bell"?
You're argument is baseless because you're implying canon only makes expensive $1500 cameras when this is clearly wrong. Companies like canon have been in photography for years and their higher price comes with years of quality and service.
Or you were joking, I can't tell. It's too late for sarcasm.
He said he uses linux most of the time so I'm sure he uses windows when he needs to. He's probably got some application that he can't use in linux.
If you're post was to mean "stop bitching and use NTFS" then I agree with you. This necessity for open source gets annoying sometimes when it comes to something like a file system. What actual limitations is he going to incure using NTFS that he wouldn't incure while using an open fs in windows using add-ons to support it? I think this guy's just being difficult.
If you're post was to mean "you should stop using windows because it's bad" then that's pretty near sighted since people use windows because they have to for reasons they can't control. I think you meant the former so I don't mean any insults.
My opinion? I use fat32 to exchange files between windows and linux. I could use NTFS, but I haven't read up on linux's recent NTFS support so I haven't been able to make the decision. I would prefer to use NTFS if it's faster in windows and linux, but right now, "if it ain't broke then don't fix it" seems to be work fine.
They'd just be under /dev/null
Actually, regular voting is open source if you think about it. The ballot is checked off and goes into a box Everyone can see the process and how it works. Using proprietary machines is like giving your vote to an employee of a private company who hauls them off in a van and then reports the tally. If these machines were based off open source software, then you could possibly have a huge number of developers working on the project in their spare time that diebold could never compete with. Think of how many people would be going through the code to find mistakes.
I don't think we should imediatley switch over, but slowly as to allow many people the chance to look over the code and find bugs or backdoors. The system doesn't need to be that overly complicated either. We're not talking about installing a huge linux environment on these but rather something from emebeded linux.
Going open source shouldn't be the issue here, it's why we went to a closed source like diebold that is what's the question.
According to microsoft it's easy, inexpensive, robust, and very stable. Shit, microsoft never lies.
Seriously though, I'd recommend java. You can do it for free and it's a language that's used. She can start on the console and get comfortable with that and then move on to swing if she wants to get into the gui. If she used the jre, she'll have to use the command line so that'll give her some experience in that.
You can even ease things up by using ant if she gets thing complicated with a lot of different classes. And the best part is, she she ever moves over to linux, everything will move over with her without recompiling or anything.
I've taken two computer science courses with java so far and I found it to be relatively easy for the simple stuff. I never used any IDE, just wordpad and ant and I was dealing with apps that consisted of over a dozen classes and using text editors made it easy enough.