The problem I see here is that there is a group trying to put together a "standard" for writing to "Linux". However, what is Linux? Is it the Kernel that Linus keeps? Is it the CLI that runs many server apps? Is it the GUI that I run at home?
I think, until a Steve Jobs or Bill Gates comes out with a killer apps with a corresponding toolkit that takes over the market, we'll be stuck in the same boat.
I can see how I'd want to encrypt my stuff. It might bore someone to death. Here's a real-life example of an IM from this morning. (I'm at work so I use Trillian on Windows NT5.1.)
I have been a Palm fan since I got my 3Com Palm III back in the '90s. I recently bought a Tungsten. It is simple to use and has a brilliant interface. (If only they'd bring back Grafitti I.)
If the old Palm.prc apps run without much of an issue, and if they keep the interface similar, I don't really care what OS is being used - Palm OS or Embedded Linux. My main concern will simply be integration with my (now six year old) data files. On the flip side, I'd love to see a Palm-created synch tool for my home machine which runs almost exclusively on SuSE. Right now I have to use the sometimes flaky KPilot and I get issues with AvantGo.
Considering that they are drawing the ire of MS and even Sun/Redhat, I think they're wanting to get their ducks (penguins?) in a row and be ready for anything. Novell is positioning themselves to once again be a big player in the server (and desktop) arena.
From what I've read of Novell Desktop, it sounds like a true windows-replacement for many corporate entities. They've really thought it out and already have proven where it works and where it won't (financial departments).
Microsoft is great at spreading FUD. They have a stated goal to rid the desktop world (since they can't compete on a server level) of other OS's. Hence, they wish to have us stop using OO. I personally say, bring it on.
They can go ahead and sue a non-profit organziation. I wonder what kind of goodwill that'll bring.
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Thank you for clearing that up. I remembered that Syabase used to have teh same code base and engine as MS SQL. I wasn't sure where the similarites/differences were these days.
Interesting thought - what other IBM systems are you running, and can you run IBM's linux (I forget what it is) on your platform upon which you're running DB2? (We can run IBM's linux under our AS/390 system, and are moving to a Z-Series platform.) That said, I'd be interested to hear what your results are. I'm in the process of forumulating how we (18,000 employees with PC's) could eventually move many desktop and server apps over to Linux.
I still can't understand why I'd want to pay even $.050 for a compressed version of the real song. It isn't the song, it's a snapshot. If I want the real version I get a CD.
I tried iTunes, and found it easy. I tried Real and thoght it nice as well, but can't get over the lack of fidelity on either format.
I do PHP and use "static" mySQL in code blocks for my personal sites.
For my day job, I tend to use ASP/VB and perform most of my calls within massive stored procedures - often times creating multiple temp tables. Generally my databases have >10M rows in the primary online tables (not to mention some archive tables), so stored procs work well there. I use MSSQL, DB/2 and IMS interchangebly.
I tried out the stored procedrues in PHP5 and wasn't impressed. Since I'm coming up with a new online app in PHP/mySQL, we decided to go with "quasi" stored procs where we have a php page that can accept "parameters" and generate the SQL code accordingly.
As a very strong personal liberties advocate, and writer of many folk songs, I'm sure Mr. Guthrie is spinning in his grave right now. I can just see his ghost walking the halls of the US Copyright office trying to haunt anybody who pretends to agree with such an idiotic stance.
LOL!!!
Oh, that is very good. Best laugh I've had all day. Now if I can only get ahold of this trailer. The production site doesn't even have it. I wonder if apple does...
That is the scene I've found at my mom's school, my wife's school, my aunt's school and at the university where my wife teaches.
It is unfortunate, but I can see the reason. In most cases the choice was made due to a perceived need to "get on the internet" and provide software. Since fewer people thesedays know Macs and even fewer know about *nix systems, they went with big contracts to have Windows PCs installed.
The argument was that there would be better support for the Windows PCs. Sadly this has failed to pan out. At least here in California, there is little money to be spent on follow up so the PCs just languish. On top of that some stupid short-sighted politicians feel that standardized testing is a good thing and have shifted focus from real-world skills (writing, coding, graphics) to bubble-filling on test sheets. As such, the PCs do very little and recieve no support.
As a regular Windoze user, I love looking into KDE from time to time. I first tried it out in '99 on my Pentium 133 laptop and was somewhat happy. (It was certianly better than the X-win system on our Sparc 5 workstations.)
I now have Mandrake 10 and am very pleased with the progress, integration, and ease of use. Since I use NT 5 here at work, I am almost excited to get home and work on my system running KDE.
Exactly! That's what I try to get across to my co workers - IIS with MSSQL will never be able to match the ability of a *nix system running a true database. (Though I tend to cringe when I think about writing DB/2 queries.)
...but accordiing to the unbiased and objective Microsoft study, Java under Linux on a 3090 mainframe is still more expensive to run than NT Server 5 on a whitebox machine with dot net.
What do they say to that?
Hell, I'll stick with coding in whitespace. What do y'all think of this routine:
K
Like hell I'd submit to this! The government doesn't need to know where I'm driving as long as I'm not breaking any vehicle code violations. Next thing you know, they'll be reading my emails with some supercomputer located in England!
I've been very disappointed in the direction Windows is going. I'm a long-time NT user and have been a Lan Manager expert since '93. I still use NT 5.1 at work (unfortunately) and am now ready to jump to Mandrake 10 at home (where I currently have NT 5.0). I think MS has gotten themselves into a bind where they are moving too slow and in too many directions (xbox, NT, Office,...) and are doomed to recreate the IBM downsize issue when they lost focus in the '80s / '90's.
I don't agree that educators for the most part belive blindly in the technology. I do, however, have much experience in this area. My mother and wife are both primary level teachers and have been at the forefront of "education in the classroom" initiaves. All of which failed to one degree or another. I often spent hours helping them setup systems that broke with no support.
The only thing I remember as positive is when my 6th grade teacher got two TRS-80 Model I computers back in '79. We were invited to go after school every day and learn BASIC. That started me off.
I'm worried that if I buy this, SCO is going to come out with a letter informing me that they own the Linux PDA distribution and that I'm in infringement...
Slashdot Mirror
Already written both the online companies to find out if they have solutions for Linux - neither do.
Guess I'll be downgrading to Windows.
I think, until a Steve Jobs or Bill Gates comes out with a killer apps with a corresponding toolkit that takes over the market, we'll be stuck in the same boat.
I can see how I'd want to encrypt my stuff. It might bore someone to death. Here's a real-life example of an IM from this morning. (I'm at work so I use Trillian on Windows NT5.1.)
Me: Dude
Friend: Yo
Me: Whassup?
Friend: Nothing
Friend: You?
Me: Nothing
Friend: Dude
Me: Yo
Friend: How's work?
Me: Work?
Friend: You at home?
Me: Oh.
Me: No, work.
Me: Fine
Me: How's J? She still there?
Friend: Fine. No left with C.
Me: BRB
Friend: Kewl
I have been a Palm fan since I got my 3Com Palm III back in the '90s. I recently bought a Tungsten. It is simple to use and has a brilliant interface. (If only they'd bring back Grafitti I.) .prc apps run without much of an issue, and if they keep the interface similar, I don't really care what OS is being used - Palm OS or Embedded Linux. My main concern will simply be integration with my (now six year old) data files.
If the old Palm
On the flip side, I'd love to see a Palm-created synch tool for my home machine which runs almost exclusively on SuSE. Right now I have to use the sometimes flaky KPilot and I get issues with AvantGo.
I click the link I get yet another reason to fear Java...
E xception(RequestProcessor.java:545)
... and it goes on...
HTTP Status 500 -
type Exception report
message
description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request.
exception
javax.servlet.ServletException
at org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.process
at
From what I've read of Novell Desktop, it sounds like a true windows-replacement for many corporate entities. They've really thought it out and already have proven where it works and where it won't (financial departments).
Good luck Novell!
You mean, "heap big boom"?
/me likes to go hiking in the eastern sierras...near the long valley caldera...
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Microsoft is great at spreading FUD. They have a stated goal to rid the desktop world (since they can't compete on a server level) of other OS's. Hence, they wish to have us stop using OO. I personally say, bring it on.
They can go ahead and sue a non-profit organziation. I wonder what kind of goodwill that'll bring.
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Thank you for clearing that up. I remembered that Syabase used to have teh same code base and engine as MS SQL. I wasn't sure where the similarites/differences were these days.
Interesting thought - what other IBM systems are you running, and can you run IBM's linux (I forget what it is) on your platform upon which you're running DB2? (We can run IBM's linux under our AS/390 system, and are moving to a Z-Series platform.) That said, I'd be interested to hear what your results are. I'm in the process of forumulating how we (18,000 employees with PC's) could eventually move many desktop and server apps over to Linux.
I still can't understand why I'd want to pay even $.050 for a compressed version of the real song. It isn't the song, it's a snapshot. If I want the real version I get a CD.
I tried iTunes, and found it easy. I tried Real and thoght it nice as well, but can't get over the lack of fidelity on either format.
Actually I fit both molds.
I do PHP and use "static" mySQL in code blocks for my personal sites.
For my day job, I tend to use ASP/VB and perform most of my calls within massive stored procedures - often times creating multiple temp tables. Generally my databases have >10M rows in the primary online tables (not to mention some archive tables), so stored procs work well there. I use MSSQL, DB/2 and IMS interchangebly.
I tried out the stored procedrues in PHP5 and wasn't impressed. Since I'm coming up with a new online app in PHP/mySQL, we decided to go with "quasi" stored procs where we have a php page that can accept "parameters" and generate the SQL code accordingly.
As a very strong personal liberties advocate, and writer of many folk songs, I'm sure Mr. Guthrie is spinning in his grave right now. I can just see his ghost walking the halls of the US Copyright office trying to haunt anybody who pretends to agree with such an idiotic stance.
LOL!!! Oh, that is very good. Best laugh I've had all day. Now if I can only get ahold of this trailer. The production site doesn't even have it. I wonder if apple does...
That is the scene I've found at my mom's school, my wife's school, my aunt's school and at the university where my wife teaches. It is unfortunate, but I can see the reason. In most cases the choice was made due to a perceived need to "get on the internet" and provide software. Since fewer people thesedays know Macs and even fewer know about *nix systems, they went with big contracts to have Windows PCs installed. The argument was that there would be better support for the Windows PCs. Sadly this has failed to pan out. At least here in California, there is little money to be spent on follow up so the PCs just languish. On top of that some stupid short-sighted politicians feel that standardized testing is a good thing and have shifted focus from real-world skills (writing, coding, graphics) to bubble-filling on test sheets. As such, the PCs do very little and recieve no support.
LOL!
Yeah, and I remember one of my buddies loading a P66 on his brand new motherboard and - oops, forgot the heat sink!
I love the smell of melted plastic in the morning...
As a regular Windoze user, I love looking into KDE from time to time. I first tried it out in '99 on my Pentium 133 laptop and was somewhat happy. (It was certianly better than the X-win system on our Sparc 5 workstations.)
I now have Mandrake 10 and am very pleased with the progress, integration, and ease of use. Since I use NT 5 here at work, I am almost excited to get home and work on my system running KDE.
Good job, Mattias!
See, being from Tübingen can be Kool!!!
seems like a personal problem...
/. effect.
This happens all the time and not just with Software companies.
I took the easy route - I downloaded the community edition. Nice to see the article. I think I'll wait an hour or two to ignore the
Exactly! That's what I try to get across to my co workers - IIS with MSSQL will never be able to match the ability of a *nix system running a true database. (Though I tend to cringe when I think about writing DB/2 queries.)
Another Ace for Linux!
...but accordiing to the unbiased and objective Microsoft study, Java under Linux on a 3090 mainframe is still more expensive to run than NT Server 5 on a whitebox machine with dot net. What do they say to that? Hell, I'll stick with coding in whitespace. What do y'all think of this routine: K
Like hell I'd submit to this! The government doesn't need to know where I'm driving as long as I'm not breaking any vehicle code violations. Next thing you know, they'll be reading my emails with some supercomputer located in England!
Depends on how you edit your resource files...
Microsoft Windows NT [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
U:\>ver
Microsoft Windows NT [Version 5.1.2600]
U:\>
The kernel appears to not have changed much either...
C:\WINNT\system32>dir ntos*.*
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 4027-FB34
Directory of C:\WINNT\system32
04/24/2003 08:57 AM 1,925,760 ntoskrnl.exe
1 File(s) 1,925,760 bytes
0 Dir(s) 50,437,734,400 bytes free
C:\WINNT\system32>
I do notice the OS/2 subsystem is gone. Too bad, I still was running some OS/2 apps (q edit, for example) under NT 5.0.
I've been very disappointed in the direction Windows is going. I'm a long-time NT user and have been a Lan Manager expert since '93. I still use NT 5.1 at work (unfortunately) and am now ready to jump to Mandrake 10 at home (where I currently have NT 5.0). I think MS has gotten themselves into a bind where they are moving too slow and in too many directions (xbox, NT, Office,...) and are doomed to recreate the IBM downsize issue when they lost focus in the '80s / '90's.
I don't agree that educators for the most part belive blindly in the technology. I do, however, have much experience in this area. My mother and wife are both primary level teachers and have been at the forefront of "education in the classroom" initiaves. All of which failed to one degree or another. I often spent hours helping them setup systems that broke with no support. The only thing I remember as positive is when my 6th grade teacher got two TRS-80 Model I computers back in '79. We were invited to go after school every day and learn BASIC. That started me off.
I'm worried that if I buy this, SCO is going to come out with a letter informing me that they own the Linux PDA distribution and that I'm in infringement...