Strangely enough, that's the point they were trying to make!!!
"the computer destroys you!" is perfectly applicable to those that suffer from a form of Repetetetive Strain Injury, such as Tendonditis, Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, Cubital Tunnel syndrome, DeQuervain's Disease, etc...
On a side note, one way to almost instantly enrage a Finn is to speak well of the Russians. Throughout it's history Finland has been treated despicably by Russia.
You know, i never could see the point where Microsoft was claiming "USING LINUX == COMMUNISM!!"
To begin with, GNU will be a kernel plus all the utilities needed to write and run C programs: editor, shell, C compiler, linker, assembler, and a few other things. After this we will add a text formatter, a YACC, an Empire game, a spreadsheet, and hundreds of other things. We hope to supply, eventually, everything useful that normally comes with a Unix system, and anything else useful, including on-line and hardcopy documentation.
And there it is! The reason for all of our Opensource Insanity over the last 20 years! RMS wanted to play the game Empire!!
No seriously... I can't say I always agree 100% with Mr. Stallman's software politics. But i will admit I understand that it took his software politics and lifelong efforts and ability to motivate people and share a dream, for me to be surrounded with old, crappy machines that can do some amazing tricks.
I admire RMS, and owe him great amounts of gratitude for the huge part he's played. Sure, we geeks know how he is, but he's unfortunately an unsung hero for the whole computing industry.
If they successfully pass this, it will increase the amount of spam and paper junkmail that we are barraged with.
I'm all for it. I get about 30-40 telemarketer calls a day at work. People trying to sell all kinds of crap, pump me for information, or generally just waste my time.
Sometimes it's entertaining to mess with them (my boss advocates this) but other times, i don't have the desire to put up with any shit. Especially the bastards that call right when you hang up on them:
"Hey! I think we got disconnected."
"Yep, and it is gonna happen again" click
"Why are you hanging up on me? I need to talk to your purchasing department about some incredible deals on copier equ-"
"Say, tell me... What do you think about fisting and donkeysex?"
"err.. uhhh. huh?"
"You know, fisting... like burying your arm up to the elbow in a donkey's snatch. If you catch them while they are in heat, you can make a lifelong-" click
It works sometimes (especially on chicks), but they always end up calling back.
Since it seems your running debian and all those cpu intensive operations are also hd intensive operations have you checked hdparm -d/dev/hda . I know it is simple but it is so simple that I forgot to check for about a month. Debian appears to have dma off by default.
Yep... the base install is Debian Testing, and everything else was pulled out of "Unstable". I have enabled DMA, and it actually did make what appeared to be a slight difference.
However, other things that don't really use the hdd much (i.e. compiling programs that don't get into swap) and things will do the same.
"the general trend in the metric indicates everything has been improving, so I think we rock."
For some reason, the scheduling seems to get more and more choppy (in that i've noticed) with every iteration of 2.4.x kernel. Currently i'm on 2.4.22, and while i don't have any specific tests, numbers or statistics i'm noticing some issues.
Easiest way to reproduce it is to have the machine do something cpu intensive, such as mkisofs, cdrecord, bzip2 some huge file, cp anything large, installing (via aptitude) or even the "Reading Package Lists...." stage of apt-get update.
Oftentimes, the machine will become unresponsive for about 3 seconds at a time, then jolt back up to speed, then pause for 3, on and on. Even after the command line returns the prompt, or gkrellm's cpu and proc krells show that everything is all done, i will still see lag in responses from the kb, mouse, or whatnot off and on for about 10-15 seconds.
I've gone over my kernel config and tweaked a few things here and there but with no change. I can back down to a 2.4.18 kernel and it's not as bad. Going down to a 2.2.x kernel completely solves the problem, but of course will bring its own issues with some of my newer packages (such as gcc) and a few pieces of newer hardware.
A friend of mine and I have gone over this (on my machine and his) and he experiences a lot of the same issues i do.
Mind you, i'm not complaining. I'm very grateful to all the developers of the world that i even *have* a linux system to run. But this is something that makes me more excited about the kernel 2.6.x series. I haven't tried one out yet, but from what i've heard and read, it should be awesoe.:o)
# 2) How is this insightful? It's Apple's ad campaign! It's not even original. If anything, it's redundant in addition to offtopic. Whether it's true is irrelevant.
So are you insinuating that, like HP's indemnification to its customers from SCO, that this article is conjured up as Apple's indemnification to its customers against the RIAA??
Of course not, i just thought i'd mess with you;)
Serves them right, those RIAA bastards. They weren't counting on our secret weapon - the clueless user!
I was kinda hoping for a second arms race and space race with china. Some cold war action, crappy New Wave music with guys wearing planterboxes on thier heads. You know, 1980's nostalgia all over again.
..... the *real* ATM Hackers will be able to crack into the ATM's OS by using buffer overflows and data encoded into the magnetic strip of home-made atm cards.
Looks like it's time to pull all the cash out of the banks and go back to the Bank of Between The Matresses. Last thing we need is a stupid windows worm to have a huge impact on the finances of the United States (or any other countries that use this scheme).
Oh, and out of spite, i'll figure out a way to make my bed run FreeBSD* or something.
[*]"BSD" always makes me think of something like Bondage/Sado-Domination or something.
Do away with the physical line speeds too and you've got Internet2...at least until it goes public one day.
Yeah.. 983 Megabits per second. You could have your computer online for approximately 7 minutes before your harddrive is completely packed with all the spam that would come in.
...the tide is beginning to turn. Major corps are starting to look at alternatives to windows (oddly, not so much at Apple, for reasons unknown)...
Next to follow, might be major software vendors starting to release apps for Linux- stuff that you currently might find on SUN or SGI machines, and what you will also find running on Windows machines.
I predict that in 5 years the landscape will be *very* different than what it is today. MS has had thier day in the sun.
Seriously... not that it is relevant to the article nor that anyone else really cares...
We now have the term "lintel"? Sounds like a bean.
I greatly dislike the term "Wintel", probably because it's a label that's been stuck on my machines so often by some of the more naive Apple folks, regardless of how much i try to explain that there is no "Windows(r)" and no "Intel(tm)" involved in them.
Oh well. I'm outnumbered so i guess they're right.
Has anyone followed up or concluded anything regarding the possibility of the power grid's SCADA systems (which habitually run a stripped down Win2K) getting nailed by the Blaster worm? The timing is right, and there are a number of indications thereof: See:
I know a pile of guys that have essentially made thier own rescue disks with everything but X servers and X apps on it.
I prefer the text-only model for rescue.
On the other hand, you bring up another interesting point about "fitting it all on a CD".
Just a couple of years ago a CD was considered ENORMOUS. Hell, i remember several years ago when you could fit an entire OS on a floppy.
I think a lot of developers are getting complacent these days and are less efficient when writing code. I'm noticing a lot of bloat in software today compared to about 6 months ago. Even more from just a year ago.
I have video games where version 3 runs bishin on a 300mhz amd k6-II with 128mb of ram. Version 4 (which comes out 3 years later) is jittery and sluggish and struggles to run on my 1.533Ghz Athlon w/ 512mb of ram. Looking at the 2 games, the graphics aren't really that big a step, nor is the gameplay so much.
The death of flash would be the most wonderful day in web browsing history since it's inception.
Do i hear a HALLELUJIAH!?!? (even if i can't spell it).
While we are at it, i'd love nothing more than to ban HTML, Flash and embedded animated or static images from email and newsgroup postings.
The 160th person to send me 3 lines italicized, purple MS Comic Sans Font on a dark blue background, with 280kb of images IS NOT FUCKING CUTE ANYMORE!!!!!
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Have you considered using bongo drums....
Can you imagine the mindless din created by a beowulf cluster of bongo drums doing a DDoS attack?
Go ahead, finish it... "computer destroys YOU!"
Strangely enough, that's the point they were trying to make!!!
"the computer destroys you!" is perfectly applicable to those that suffer from a form of Repetetetive Strain Injury, such as Tendonditis, Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, Cubital Tunnel syndrome, DeQuervain's Disease, etc...
Although, it's always funny when it's not you.
On a side note, one way to almost instantly enrage a Finn is to speak well of the Russians. Throughout it's history Finland has been treated despicably by Russia.
;)
You know, i never could see the point where Microsoft was claiming "USING LINUX == COMMUNISM!!"
Thanks for clearing that up for me
To begin with, GNU will be a kernel plus all the utilities needed to
write and run C programs: editor, shell, C compiler, linker,
assembler, and a few other things. After this we will add a text
formatter, a YACC, an Empire game, a spreadsheet, and hundreds of
other things. We hope to supply, eventually, everything useful that
normally comes with a Unix system, and anything else useful, including
on-line and hardcopy documentation.
And there it is! The reason for all of our Opensource Insanity over the last 20 years! RMS wanted to play the game Empire!!
No seriously...
I can't say I always agree 100% with Mr. Stallman's software politics. But i will admit I understand that it took his software politics and lifelong efforts and ability to motivate people and share a dream, for me to be surrounded with old, crappy machines that can do some amazing tricks.
I admire RMS, and owe him great amounts of gratitude for the huge part he's played. Sure, we geeks know how he is, but he's unfortunately an unsung hero for the whole computing industry.
I say we have 2 8-button mice in stereo... plus foot pedals on the floor.
;)
Fwiw i've been using XFCE4 for about 3 months now. I finally made the step up from Windowmaker or Blackbox to a "huge" Desktop Environment
If they successfully pass this, it will increase the amount of spam and paper junkmail that we are barraged with.
I'm all for it. I get about 30-40 telemarketer calls a day at work. People trying to sell all kinds of crap, pump me for information, or generally just waste my time.
Sometimes it's entertaining to mess with them (my boss advocates this) but other times, i don't have the desire to put up with any shit. Especially the bastards that call right when you hang up on them:
"Hey! I think we got disconnected."
"Yep, and it is gonna happen again" click
"Why are you hanging up on me? I need to talk to your purchasing department about some incredible deals on copier equ-"
"Say, tell me... What do you think about fisting and donkeysex?"
"err.. uhhh. huh?"
"You know, fisting... like burying your arm up to the elbow in a donkey's snatch. If you catch them while they are in heat, you can make a lifelong-"
click
It works sometimes (especially on chicks), but they always end up calling back.
Since it seems your running debian and all those cpu intensive operations are also hd intensive operations have you checked hdparm -d /dev/hda . I know it is simple but it is so simple that I forgot to check for about a month. Debian appears to have dma off by default.
:0)
Yep... the base install is Debian Testing, and everything else was pulled out of "Unstable". I have enabled DMA, and it actually did make what appeared to be a slight difference.
However, other things that don't really use the hdd much (i.e. compiling programs that don't get into swap) and things will do the same.
Thanks for the suggestion anyhow
"the general trend in the metric indicates everything has been improving, so I think we rock."
:o)
For some reason, the scheduling seems to get more and more choppy (in that i've noticed) with every iteration of 2.4.x kernel. Currently i'm on 2.4.22, and while i don't have any specific tests, numbers or statistics i'm noticing some issues.
Easiest way to reproduce it is to have the machine do something cpu intensive, such as mkisofs, cdrecord, bzip2 some huge file, cp anything large, installing (via aptitude) or even the "Reading Package Lists...." stage of apt-get update.
Oftentimes, the machine will become unresponsive for about 3 seconds at a time, then jolt back up to speed, then pause for 3, on and on. Even after the command line returns the prompt, or gkrellm's cpu and proc krells show that everything is all done, i will still see lag in responses from the kb, mouse, or whatnot off and on for about 10-15 seconds.
I've gone over my kernel config and tweaked a few things here and there but with no change. I can back down to a 2.4.18 kernel and it's not as bad. Going down to a 2.2.x kernel completely solves the problem, but of course will bring its own issues with some of my newer packages (such as gcc) and a few pieces of newer hardware.
A friend of mine and I have gone over this (on my machine and his) and he experiences a lot of the same issues i do.
Mind you, i'm not complaining. I'm very grateful to all the developers of the world that i even *have* a linux system to run. But this is something that makes me more excited about the kernel 2.6.x series. I haven't tried one out yet, but from what i've heard and read, it should be awesoe.
# 2) How is this insightful? It's Apple's ad campaign! It's not even original. If anything, it's redundant in addition to offtopic. Whether it's true is irrelevant.
;)
So are you insinuating that, like HP's indemnification to its customers from SCO, that this article is conjured up as Apple's indemnification to its customers against the RIAA??
Of course not, i just thought i'd mess with you
Serves them right, those RIAA bastards. They weren't counting on our secret weapon - the clueless user!
I for one, welcome our new clueless overlords!
This vulnerability apparently has to do with PAM,
;)
Yeah, I always blame my problems on the chick too
(kekekeke)
...the difference in mindfucking sound between 32-bit and 64-bit penis-shaped soundwaves coming from the computer speakers, as i think about skins?
I thought china was the "new russia"...
I was kinda hoping for a second arms race and space race with china. Some cold war action, crappy New Wave music with guys wearing planterboxes on thier heads. You know, 1980's nostalgia all over again.
Does this mean we'll get spammed from space too?
..... the *real* ATM Hackers will be able to crack into the ATM's OS by using buffer overflows and data encoded into the magnetic strip of home-made atm cards.
The Rebirth Of The Card Walloper!
Looks like it's time to pull all the cash out of the banks and go back to the Bank of Between The Matresses. Last thing we need is a stupid windows worm to have a huge impact on the finances of the United States (or any other countries that use this scheme).
Oh, and out of spite, i'll figure out a way to make my bed run FreeBSD* or something.
[*]"BSD" always makes me think of something like Bondage/Sado-Domination or something.
Do away with the physical line speeds too and you've got Internet2...at least until it goes public one day.
Yeah.. 983 Megabits per second. You could have your computer online for approximately 7 minutes before your harddrive is completely packed with all the spam that would come in.
Make all the laws you want. Enforcement will always be the issue that causes less-than-satisfactory results.
Same for spam, parasiteware, etc.
oh, btw.. Almost First Post!
...Natalie Portman stands emaciated and covered with refried beans, and proclaims in a very non-chalant, beleaguered way...
"SSH is dying..."
Build a time machine and go back to murder whoever initiated the deal to purchase bungee, then buy it for the PC the way it was originally planned.
;) :oP
It sounds like you've played a few too many fantasy-scifi video games
...the tide is beginning to turn. Major corps are starting to look at alternatives to windows (oddly, not so much at Apple, for reasons unknown)...
Next to follow, might be major software vendors starting to release apps for Linux- stuff that you currently might find on SUN or SGI machines, and what you will also find running on Windows machines.
I predict that in 5 years the landscape will be *very* different than what it is today. MS has had thier day in the sun.
syke!
Seriously... not that it is relevant to the article nor that anyone else really cares...
We now have the term "lintel"? Sounds like a bean.
I greatly dislike the term "Wintel", probably because it's a label that's been stuck on my machines so often by some of the more naive Apple folks, regardless of how much i try to explain that there is no "Windows(r)" and no "Intel(tm)" involved in them.
Oh well. I'm outnumbered so i guess they're right.
Has anyone followed up or concluded anything regarding the possibility of the power grid's SCADA systems (which habitually run a stripped down Win2K) getting nailed by the Blaster worm? The timing is right, and there are a number of indications thereof:
See:
this or
this or
this.
Though this is entertaining to read, is it News for nerds, stuff that matters?
Oh yeah, FP!
I know a pile of guys that have essentially made thier own rescue disks with everything but X servers and X apps on it.
I prefer the text-only model for rescue.
On the other hand, you bring up another interesting point about "fitting it all on a CD".
Just a couple of years ago a CD was considered ENORMOUS. Hell, i remember several years ago when you could fit an entire OS on a floppy.
I think a lot of developers are getting complacent these days and are less efficient when writing code. I'm noticing a lot of bloat in software today compared to about 6 months ago. Even more from just a year ago.
I have video games where version 3 runs bishin on a 300mhz amd k6-II with 128mb of ram. Version 4 (which comes out 3 years later) is jittery and sluggish and struggles to run on my 1.533Ghz Athlon w/ 512mb of ram. Looking at the 2 games, the graphics aren't really that big a step, nor is the gameplay so much.
Yet another linux live-cd with essentially the same spoken name.
"Hey, what are you running?"
"'noppix!"
"which one?"
(note: i know some people say it "gah-nome, gah-noo", but where i'm from the G is silent in front of an N. Same with the K in Knoppix)
The death of flash would be the most wonderful day in web browsing history since it's inception.
Do i hear a HALLELUJIAH!?!? (even if i can't spell it).
While we are at it, i'd love nothing more than to ban HTML, Flash and embedded animated or static images from email and newsgroup postings.
The 160th person to send me 3 lines italicized, purple MS Comic Sans Font on a dark blue background, with 280kb of images IS NOT FUCKING CUTE ANYMORE!!!!!
Gawd, people.
Flash is for www.newgrounds.com