Sounds like a good project to put out on Sourceforge. If I can use Ndiswrapper to run this broadcom card, the we should be able to wrap their windows dial-up networking driver into a module. Dont underestimate the power of geekdom.
Lets see.. I pay $50 / month for DSL. I also have to pay for a $20 / month "basic phone" line just to get the DSL. By basic, it's just a dial tone, no caller id, no features, even the ringer stays turned off so I dont have to deal with telemarketers. I could care less about it. I get free long distance, 400 anytime minutes, free nights and weekends, and free mobile-to-mobile minutes on my wireless phone. Plus voice mail, caller ID and I can take it anywhere. So why do I need a wired phone? Just so Bellsouth can establish DSL service. Yuck! It stands as an emergency 911 phone in case the wireless phone's battery is dead (if ever..).
That means I already pay $70 / month just to get DSL. I already have Verizon Wireless, so I might qualify for some kind of package deal discount.
The wireless phone I have is already a data-capable G3 phone. Possibly just a flash upgrade will enable the higher rates. So, I am probably out just a USB cable to get online. Anywhere, whenever. Hmmm.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
You know, it seems that where the telco's dropped the ball with fiber-to-the-curb, the wireless providers stand to prosper using RF.
So the G-men think they can just listen in like a phone line. Think again.
Anyone with something secret to say will encrypt. And with a huge key.
As much as the US government can wish otherwise, (remember the PGP wars?) the encryption genie has been out of the bottle for awhile.
This will only serve to increase ISP access rates and degrade basic privacy rights.
Geez, please stop worrying what the normal, average, law-abiding citizens are doing and take the war to the people who are threatening our security -- those in other countries that are trying to destroy us. Go after them and leave us alone.
I dont want to be "secure" and "safe". I want to be free. I'll accept the risk.
This thing looks like a cross between a Gundam and Robocop. I think that Jesse James should have built this on Monster Garage.
OK. Now what does it REALLY do?
I particularly remember the Motorola Pulsar and Pulsar II mobile phones. Personally I had one of the General Electric MASTR-II ones with a local common carrier. Also I refurbished quite a few of them for use on privately owned systems as Ma Bell surplused them. They cost about $3500 apiece new, so they were the tools/toys of the rich lawyers, business execs and doctors, and not the local teenager walking around a mall.
What you take for granted clipped to your belt or in your pocket used to take up a chunk of your car's trunk with thick control cables and a control head mounted on the transmission hump of your car. The things transmitted 25 watts of RF over 152 / 158 MHz full-duplex and could kill a car battery in no time flat. Coverage was spotty over about 12 miles and it had no privacy as anyone with a scanner could listen in. (and you panic about 100 milliwats out of a typical cell phone, heh heh...)
Now they run for days on a lithium ion battery and you dont fix them - you just throw them away.
I had DirecTV and was completely satisfied, then switched to cable (because it was "better" and I got a cable modem that worked about 50% of the time), dumped that nonsense and went to Dish Network. One of the reasons was I could finally get NASA TV with Dish.
Dish, DirecTV, and your local cable company have to buy programming packages from the vendors, such as Viacom. They dont get to pick and choose ala-carte. So you, as an end-purchaser, dont get the chance to pay for just what you watch. The service provider gets stuck with the contracted package and has to air the losers along with the popular high rating channels.
Personally, I prefer the satellite way because 1) I'm in control of the hardware. I dont mind climbing a latter and replacing a piece of cable that gets damaged. At least I dont have to take a day off from work to wait on a cable installer. If I move, it takes me 30 minutes to install and aim the dish. 2) The price is tremendously cheaper all around. The earth station equipment was free with free installation, and 3) the quality is much better. Straight mpeg video out of the decoder, not a signal that has passed through gawd knows how many line amplifiers between the head-end and my house. My cable reception looked like something off a cheap roof-top antenna.
The only way I would dump what I have is if someone would pull fiber to the curb, like we've been promised for years.
Whooee...
Nothing like the bean scene.. Just brew it hot as fire, black as night, and make it taste just a little like tractor gas. Black tar caffene! Gotta have MORE!
abbabababa----Zing!
Tried it on 2.6.3. Good test code. I'm squeaky clean.
That's the good thing about open source. Everythings in the clear, and we can fix it.
We, as programmers, worry about the code being correct. We dont care about "corporate images". We just want the exploit plugged and the code to be as perfect as we can make it.
To look at the pictures she has taken of the aftermath, the lives that were lost. I'm deeply disturbed, and saddened.
My hat is off to her and others that document this as a monument to those who lost their lives, their loved ones, and their homes. These people died needlessly at the hands of those that considered human life to be secondary to political goals.
In a time where we all worry about the possibility of a rogue nation, or a terrorist triggering a nuclear or "dirty" bomb, we need to look at this and be aware of the outcome.
May this tragedy never be repeated.
-dh
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No I am not going to pay to send e-mail. Sorry, but Bill's proposal is not acceptable.
It is one thing to donate idle CPU time to something charitable and worthwhile, like SETI, if you wish to do so. But to allow a private corporation to freely enjoy things that cost me considerable money for, like a full time DSL connection, and the electricity to operate a PC with a 450 watt power supply 24/7, makes no sense. To require me to submit to this just so I can send e-mail is nonsense.
Other questions come to mind. If this proposed system is burdened with Microsoft patents, then exactly how will open-source or third-pary e-mail clients and servers be licensed with the Microsoft IP. Exactly what is that going to cost?
I know there seems to be an inordinate amount of interest with SCO, but you must realize that there are a LOT of developers who are putting Linux into commerical products, all legal within the GPL. I am involved in such a project. In addition, there are many major companies that are using Linux as enterprise server iron. Companies like RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake, etc, are built upon selling a distribution of Linux.
As to my project, for me to have to flush Linux, and use embedded BSD, or VxWorks would be throwing away a year of development. Seeing the Linux distro companies die would be a tragedy.
The concept of free (as in freedom) software has brought rich rewards to all who embrace the concept, use, and contribute to it. The only viable threats to the Redmond monopoly is Apple, BSD, and what we call Linux.
Yes, I agree there is a lot of FUD and idle speculation running around. Much of it belongs in the "tin-foil hat" paranoid category. Ignore it, or laugh about it. But keep the interest going!
But the crucial point is this: If SCO were to pull this off it would cripple many corporations in an already weak, recovering economy. Products, such as TiVo, Linux-based PDA's, Linksys routers, just to name a few, would come under the fire of SCO's legal department, crippling many, and entirely flushing others. And dont think that BSD would escape unscathed. Even if SCO were unsuccessful against trying to challenge BSD, (and remember that Apple's OSX has BSD parts within it -- they could be dragged into the middle of it) more damage would be done.
In the end we would end up with essentially a monopoly in computer operating systems. No choice, just pay, pay, pay.
I know what I have said has been already been posted in various forms, and I'll probably get modded as redundant, but serious interest is warranted.
Think of it this way. A cockroach, like SCO, hates bright lights and avoids being seen. Keep the lights on and polish your magnifying glass, because the SCO headquarters needs a good dose of insecticide.
The grammar and spelling of this e-mail resemble that of a 16-year old with a 'D' average. This Mike Anderer is apparently a highly paid consultant, and one would assume that he has a college, if not at the least, a good secondary education. He should possess good communication skills and be able to write effectively. Those skills would be an essential part of his job.
To temper my above statement, I do not expect quick e-mail notes to have much spit-and-polish, but spell checkers are a standard feature. Just push the little icon and accept the corrections.
Frankly, I find it hard to put a lot into this, but I would like to be proven wrong. If this is authentic, then you can read a lot into why SCO is doing the stupid things they are attempting.
Companies that have deep pockets and idle lawyers just looking for something to do. Maybe AutoZone to a lesser degree, but Daimler-Chrysler?
For gawd's sake, is Darl finally going totally insane? This is more than just a David vs. Goliath. This is like a cockroach with a bad attitude trying to take on a couple of steamrollers. This is megalomania in it's finest form.
Personally, someone at Canopy Group needs to have Darl tucked into a wrap-around tuxedo and carried off in a butterfly net. This guy is unbelievable.
Yep. And since I'm a duly licensed amateur radio operator, then if it's rolled out in my area then they have to put up with the interference.
I still think that interference with government services on the HF bands will be the death, if not at least the curtailment, this technology. At the very least it cant be deployed near any government installation.
Considering that batteries die with age, solar panels degrade with exposure, and radiation of all sorts bombard the spacecraft. Also you have to have fuel to station keep, and it is only recently that ion thrusters have become available that dont require a lot of reaction mass to operate.
20 years of operation in the harsh environment of space gets my applause.
Simply put, Open Souce is like genetics. When ideas and information are shared between individuals and groups, software design benefits as a whole. When this is fenced in, such as closed source, then the idea pool stagnates, much like a gene pool. No fresh ideas enter, no interchange happens, and you end up with the same stale code being ground out again and again.
As an example, look at Microsoft's NT lineage. OS2 (Microsoft Variant) found it's way into NT 3.51, then NT 4.0, NT 5.0 (Windows 2000), and Windows XP, encompassing a span of roughly 12 years. Each shares the basic NT undercore which hasnt seen much more than incremental improvements. (I recognize the fact and the argument that Microsoft tries to keep backward compatibility, but something written to run X86 real mode generally has problems working on a protected mode NT platform.)
Over a shorter period we are up to the powerful 2.6 kernel, and have ported Linux to everything from simple microcontrollers (Broadcom MIPS and IBM 405GP) up to heavy iron mainframes. Linux is not fenced in by a single processor architecture, but enjoys running on many.
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Ok, if hardware is going to be free, then when can I order a new free laptop and a new free screaming gaming system for home.
Oh, yeah. Will they be assembled by the Easter Bunny and delivered by Santa Claus??
Boy, I think Sun and M$ are smoking some pretty good stuff!
Sounds like a good project to put out on Sourceforge. If I can use Ndiswrapper to run this broadcom card, the we should be able to wrap their windows dial-up networking driver into a module. Dont underestimate the power of geekdom.
I cant wait to get started!
Lets see.. I pay $50 / month for DSL. I also have to pay for a $20 / month "basic phone" line just to get the DSL. By basic, it's just a dial tone, no caller id, no features, even the ringer stays turned off so I dont have to deal with telemarketers. I could care less about it. I get free long distance, 400 anytime minutes, free nights and weekends, and free mobile-to-mobile minutes on my wireless phone. Plus voice mail, caller ID and I can take it anywhere. So why do I need a wired phone? Just so Bellsouth can establish DSL service. Yuck! It stands as an emergency 911 phone in case the wireless phone's battery is dead (if ever..).
That means I already pay $70 / month just to get DSL. I already have Verizon Wireless, so I might qualify for some kind of package deal discount.
The wireless phone I have is already a data-capable G3 phone. Possibly just a flash upgrade will enable the higher rates. So, I am probably out just a USB cable to get online. Anywhere, whenever. Hmmm.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
You know, it seems that where the telco's dropped the ball with fiber-to-the-curb, the wireless providers stand to prosper using RF.
So the G-men think they can just listen in like a phone line. Think again.
Anyone with something secret to say will encrypt. And with a huge key.
As much as the US government can wish otherwise, (remember the PGP wars?) the encryption genie has been out of the bottle for awhile.
This will only serve to increase ISP access rates and degrade basic privacy rights.
Geez, please stop worrying what the normal, average, law-abiding citizens are doing and take the war to the people who are threatening our security -- those in other countries that are trying to destroy us. Go after them and leave us alone.
I dont want to be "secure" and "safe". I want to be free. I'll accept the risk.
This thing looks like a cross between a Gundam and Robocop. I think that Jesse James should have built this on Monster Garage. OK. Now what does it REALLY do?
I particularly remember the Motorola Pulsar and Pulsar II mobile phones. Personally I had one of the General Electric MASTR-II ones with a local common carrier. Also I refurbished quite a few of them for use on privately owned systems as Ma Bell surplused them. They cost about $3500 apiece new, so they were the tools/toys of the rich lawyers, business execs and doctors, and not the local teenager walking around a mall.
What you take for granted clipped to your belt or in your pocket used to take up a chunk of your car's trunk with thick control cables and a control head mounted on the transmission hump of your car. The things transmitted 25 watts of RF over 152 / 158 MHz full-duplex and could kill a car battery in no time flat. Coverage was spotty over about 12 miles and it had no privacy as anyone with a scanner could listen in. (and you panic about 100 milliwats out of a typical cell phone, heh heh...)
Now they run for days on a lithium ion battery and you dont fix them - you just throw them away.
No, sorry, not a bit. And here's why:
I had DirecTV and was completely satisfied, then switched to cable (because it was "better" and I got a cable modem that worked about 50% of the time), dumped that nonsense and went to Dish Network. One of the reasons was I could finally get NASA TV with Dish.
Dish, DirecTV, and your local cable company have to buy programming packages from the vendors, such as Viacom. They dont get to pick and choose ala-carte. So you, as an end-purchaser, dont get the chance to pay for just what you watch. The service provider gets stuck with the contracted package and has to air the losers along with the popular high rating channels.
Personally, I prefer the satellite way because 1) I'm in control of the hardware. I dont mind climbing a latter and replacing a piece of cable that gets damaged. At least I dont have to take a day off from work to wait on a cable installer. If I move, it takes me 30 minutes to install and aim the dish. 2) The price is tremendously cheaper all around. The earth station equipment was free with free installation, and 3) the quality is much better. Straight mpeg video out of the decoder, not a signal that has passed through gawd knows how many line amplifiers between the head-end and my house. My cable reception looked like something off a cheap roof-top antenna.
The only way I would dump what I have is if someone would pull fiber to the curb, like we've been promised for years.
...And if Viacom is going to cause my Dish Network monthly rate to jump drastically, then I can do without Viacom channels. Suits me fine.
Whooee... Nothing like the bean scene.. Just brew it hot as fire, black as night, and make it taste just a little like tractor gas. Black tar caffene! Gotta have MORE! abbabababa----Zing!
Tried it on 2.6.3. Good test code. I'm squeaky clean. That's the good thing about open source. Everythings in the clear, and we can fix it. We, as programmers, worry about the code being correct. We dont care about "corporate images". We just want the exploit plugged and the code to be as perfect as we can make it.
To look at the pictures she has taken of the aftermath, the lives that were lost. I'm deeply disturbed, and saddened.
My hat is off to her and others that document this as a monument to those who lost their lives, their loved ones, and their homes. These people died needlessly at the hands of those that considered human life to be secondary to political goals.
In a time where we all worry about the possibility of a rogue nation, or a terrorist triggering a nuclear or "dirty" bomb, we need to look at this and be aware of the outcome.
May this tragedy never be repeated.
-dh
No I am not going to pay to send e-mail. Sorry, but Bill's proposal is not acceptable.
It is one thing to donate idle CPU time to something charitable and worthwhile, like SETI, if you wish to do so. But to allow a private corporation to freely enjoy things that cost me considerable money for, like a full time DSL connection, and the electricity to operate a PC with a 450 watt power supply 24/7, makes no sense. To require me to submit to this just so I can send e-mail is nonsense.
Other questions come to mind. If this proposed system is burdened with Microsoft patents, then exactly how will open-source or third-pary e-mail clients and servers be licensed with the Microsoft IP. Exactly what is that going to cost?
No, but they would have to install Linux to develop with. That would put them on Darl's hate list.
Not to flame, but this needs to be stated.
I know there seems to be an inordinate amount of interest with SCO, but you must realize that there are a LOT of developers who are putting Linux into commerical products, all legal within the GPL. I am involved in such a project. In addition, there are many major companies that are using Linux as enterprise server iron. Companies like RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake, etc, are built upon selling a distribution of Linux.
As to my project, for me to have to flush Linux, and use embedded BSD, or VxWorks would be throwing away a year of development. Seeing the Linux distro companies die would be a tragedy.
The concept of free (as in freedom) software has brought rich rewards to all who embrace the concept, use, and contribute to it. The only viable threats to the Redmond monopoly is Apple, BSD, and what we call Linux.
Yes, I agree there is a lot of FUD and idle speculation running around. Much of it belongs in the "tin-foil hat" paranoid category. Ignore it, or laugh about it. But keep the interest going!
But the crucial point is this: If SCO were to pull this off it would cripple many corporations in an already weak, recovering economy. Products, such as TiVo, Linux-based PDA's, Linksys routers, just to name a few, would come under the fire of SCO's legal department, crippling many, and entirely flushing others. And dont think that BSD would escape unscathed. Even if SCO were unsuccessful against trying to challenge BSD, (and remember that Apple's OSX has BSD parts within it -- they could be dragged into the middle of it) more damage would be done.
In the end we would end up with essentially a monopoly in computer operating systems. No choice, just pay, pay, pay.
I know what I have said has been already been posted in various forms, and I'll probably get modded as redundant, but serious interest is warranted.
Think of it this way. A cockroach, like SCO, hates bright lights and avoids being seen. Keep the lights on and polish your magnifying glass, because the SCO headquarters needs a good dose of insecticide.
-dh
Does this put Macromedia in the crosshairs for another of SCO's crazed lawsuits?
Yet, but it wouldn't make SCO suffer a fitting fate.
I think public humiliation, stock delisting, and bankruptcy would be a more fitting end.
OK, I stand corrected on my earler comments. This guy is in reality an illiterate moron.
The plot thickens... (or is it the rot sickens)? Maybe the second because something surely stinks.
Have they announced what their new corporate name will be since they lost the lawsuit over the "Mandrake" name?
The grammar and spelling of this e-mail resemble that of a 16-year old with a 'D' average. This Mike Anderer is apparently a highly paid consultant, and one would assume that he has a college, if not at the least, a good secondary education. He should possess good communication skills and be able to write effectively. Those skills would be an essential part of his job.
To temper my above statement, I do not expect quick e-mail notes to have much spit-and-polish, but spell checkers are a standard feature. Just push the little icon and accept the corrections.
Frankly, I find it hard to put a lot into this, but I would like to be proven wrong. If this is authentic, then you can read a lot into why SCO is doing the stupid things they are attempting.
Would you put this guy on your payroll?
AutoZone? Daimer-Chrysler?
Companies that have deep pockets and idle lawyers just looking for something to do. Maybe AutoZone to a lesser degree, but Daimler-Chrysler?
For gawd's sake, is Darl finally going totally insane? This is more than just a David vs. Goliath. This is like a cockroach with a bad attitude trying to take on a couple of steamrollers. This is megalomania in it's finest form.
Personally, someone at Canopy Group needs to have Darl tucked into a wrap-around tuxedo and carried off in a butterfly net. This guy is unbelievable.
Yep. And since I'm a duly licensed amateur radio operator, then if it's rolled out in my area then they have to put up with the interference.
I still think that interference with government services on the HF bands will be the death, if not at least the curtailment, this technology. At the very least it cant be deployed near any government installation.
OMG... Nasa is launching Geraldo to the nearest one. He's going to have a special on what they (didnt?) find inside!
Made a few CW contacts through AO-6 way long ago, but havent put together a setup for the newer birds. Hmmm gotta do something about that...
Considering that batteries die with age, solar panels degrade with exposure, and radiation of all sorts bombard the spacecraft. Also you have to have fuel to station keep, and it is only recently that ion thrusters have become available that dont require a lot of reaction mass to operate.
20 years of operation in the harsh environment of space gets my applause.
Simply put, Open Souce is like genetics. When ideas and information are shared between individuals and groups, software design benefits as a whole. When this is fenced in, such as closed source, then the idea pool stagnates, much like a gene pool. No fresh ideas enter, no interchange happens, and you end up with the same stale code being ground out again and again.
As an example, look at Microsoft's NT lineage. OS2 (Microsoft Variant) found it's way into NT 3.51, then NT 4.0, NT 5.0 (Windows 2000), and Windows XP, encompassing a span of roughly 12 years. Each shares the basic NT undercore which hasnt seen much more than incremental improvements. (I recognize the fact and the argument that Microsoft tries to keep backward compatibility, but something written to run X86 real mode generally has problems working on a protected mode NT platform.)
Over a shorter period we are up to the powerful 2.6 kernel, and have ported Linux to everything from simple microcontrollers (Broadcom MIPS and IBM 405GP) up to heavy iron mainframes. Linux is not fenced in by a single processor architecture, but enjoys running on many.
We need Open Source to keep the idea pool fresh.