Yet more reasons to love my OS X / Ubuntu setup I've got going on. The dialogue goes more like "Hey I've got these updates for you whenever you've got a second" rather than "YOU WILL INSTALL THIS NOW".
This comment is way way way way way off-topic. Seriously now. We're talking about underage drinking, freedom of expression, and puritanical outlooks on life that make no damn sense.
Who is out there modding this insightful? Come over here. You're 'bout to get stabbed in the jaw.
the little problem of moving their technology base from *unix to Windows
I know this is going to sound really naïve of me, but would it *really* be necessary for them to move it all onto Windows? After the debacle with Hotmail they might decide not to.
I'm totally not disagreeing with you that it will be f*ckin' hilarious to witness though.
Yep. See also: Nuremberg (my apoloies for TOTALLY inappropriate reference; that is where that legal precedent was set, at least for international law).
Seriously though. They can't rightfully fire you for refusing to do something illegal. If they do, sue them for wrongful termination.
As someone else brought up earlier, the people this program is targeting are not the same people who businesses here in the first world are going to be hiring to do their enterprise MS voodoo for them. What you're not realizing is that with all the kids in these third-world countries using linux, it will be 100% of the computer-using population in these countries using linux. You think they all want to move to the US or Europe and work for some corporation? How many third-world countries have you been to?
So for all your "mod me troll all you like" bravado, you're still wrong and you've been called out by a dozen or so people on here. The thing to do now would be either to make some kind of argument or to shut up.
I disagree. Besides, since when does even the US have a free market? Everything here is subsidized by the government (everything agricultural anyways) and lots of other industries have regulated monopolies in charge of them.
Seriously though, in a totally free market what reason would drug companies have for spending billions researching a cure only to see that very same cure cause its own market to evaporate? Drug companies don't act in the interest of the general public because if they did their stockholders would rebel. Instead they act in their own best interest.
I'm not really a communist, I just see that there are certain select circumstances where governments (plural) need to bend those free market rules in order to do what's best for their citizens and the citizens of every nation.
This is one of those things that's come up a couple of times in the past year or two that just turns my stomach every single time. I understand that US pharmaceutical corporations have no economic reason to spend billions researching cures to AIDS and other pandemic ailments only to give them away around the world, but seriously!
Why is it not, instead, the case where governments all around the world pool their resources, research and distribute medications, and solve the whole AIDS problem once and for all like we did with Smallpox? Have we no compassion whatsoever? And even if we don't, don't we all realize that millions of people infected with AIDS in Africa means that there are millions of people who are totally capable of transmitting the disease elsewhere? Even if we made it a thing of the past in developed, wealthy countries, it would still affect us all.
Also, props to parent for recognizing the most heinous part of this whole international copyright-infringement farce.
Thank you, but my point (and not being a native speaker of Spanish) was that you would not use "libre" when you really meant "gratis". In English they're the same word.
...is a hardware platform that consumers are guaranteed will work with a particular distribution of Linux. It doesn't even matter which one it is as long as it comes, out of the box, ready for use. That's the only thing that, so far, Windows has always had up on any distro of Linux.
Recalling my machine shop classes ages ago, yes, you're absolutely right. B is for liquid fuel fires.
Either way, it's not so much tripping the connections on the battery I'd be worried about. I'd be much more concerned about the reaction between lithium and water where the lithium steals electrons, freeing oxygen and hydrogen from the water. Fun times!
15 alternative medicine types here in my county who would preach shamanistic bullshit while they rubbed a crystal or an herb or whatever mystical substance on me to cure whatever they could convince me was wrong
Yeah. Totally not the people to whom I was referring. I'm speaking more of people that I've met in the rainforests of Costa Rica that have a sense of the natural world around them so keen and intuitive to them that it's almost as if they were born with it. There's stuff they know that we still don't, or at least stuff that they've known forever that would take concerted effort by us to find out. Apples and oranges, my friend.
Also, for each of your 15 crystal-waving loons, there's at least a couple, say, accupuncturists that take their work very seriously and study for years to get as good as they are. And unlike waving crystals around, accupuncture is an "alternative medicine" technique that commonly does work for a wide variety of ailments. In fact, my insurance covers it.
Living in a mysterious world and living in a world we don't understand . . . I don't get what distinction you're trying to make there. Since the world didn't come with a detailed user guide telling us everything about it, and there's stuff we haven't figured out, I'd classify that as being pretty mysterious. Doesn't mean it's a bad thing, though.
The proper way is with a dry chemical fire extinguisher rated for electrical and metal fires, so a class ABC or BC fire extinguisher. They usually spray out a combination of carbon dioxide and/or baking soda-like material and can safely be used on any kind of fire.
There are many routes to finding this knowledge other than your scientific ones. Natives in North and South America, as well as Africa, have medicine men who work on some completely different level than you or I. They have knowledge of plants and combinations of plants for many therapeutic purposes that we would take hundreds of years to figure out; they've just always known about them. If you asked one of them, they'd tell you that the plants spoke to them and told them about themselves.
We want to think we're so much more advanced than they are, but it only looks like we're winning because we, living in moderately safer environments (i.e., there aren't really any predators looking to eat any of us here in the city) and having access to hospitals and whatnot tend to live longer.
And finally, really now, moderators, the "flamebait" mod is there to preserve civility here. Use it.
Yet more reasons to love my OS X / Ubuntu setup I've got going on. The dialogue goes more like "Hey I've got these updates for you whenever you've got a second" rather than "YOU WILL INSTALL THIS NOW".
YES
This comment is way way way way way off-topic. Seriously now. We're talking about underage drinking, freedom of expression, and puritanical outlooks on life that make no damn sense.
Who is out there modding this insightful? Come over here. You're 'bout to get stabbed in the jaw.
Isn't that a simile?
I know this is going to sound really naïve of me, but would it *really* be necessary for them to move it all onto Windows? After the debacle with Hotmail they might decide not to.
I'm totally not disagreeing with you that it will be f*ckin' hilarious to witness though.
Yep. See also: Nuremberg (my apoloies for TOTALLY inappropriate reference; that is where that legal precedent was set, at least for international law).
Seriously though. They can't rightfully fire you for refusing to do something illegal. If they do, sue them for wrongful termination.
Eh no. It's not.
As someone else brought up earlier, the people this program is targeting are not the same people who businesses here in the first world are going to be hiring to do their enterprise MS voodoo for them. What you're not realizing is that with all the kids in these third-world countries using linux, it will be 100% of the computer-using population in these countries using linux. You think they all want to move to the US or Europe and work for some corporation? How many third-world countries have you been to?
So for all your "mod me troll all you like" bravado, you're still wrong and you've been called out by a dozen or so people on here. The thing to do now would be either to make some kind of argument or to shut up.
Only Australia would try to power homes off beer....
*books tickets*
I disagree. Besides, since when does even the US have a free market? Everything here is subsidized by the government (everything agricultural anyways) and lots of other industries have regulated monopolies in charge of them.
Seriously though, in a totally free market what reason would drug companies have for spending billions researching a cure only to see that very same cure cause its own market to evaporate? Drug companies don't act in the interest of the general public because if they did their stockholders would rebel. Instead they act in their own best interest.
I'm not really a communist, I just see that there are certain select circumstances where governments (plural) need to bend those free market rules in order to do what's best for their citizens and the citizens of every nation.
Here's hoping you were joking.
You've got it all wrong! A is the lady, and B is the fella!
Those bastards!
This is one of those things that's come up a couple of times in the past year or two that just turns my stomach every single time. I understand that US pharmaceutical corporations have no economic reason to spend billions researching cures to AIDS and other pandemic ailments only to give them away around the world, but seriously!
Why is it not, instead, the case where governments all around the world pool their resources, research and distribute medications, and solve the whole AIDS problem once and for all like we did with Smallpox? Have we no compassion whatsoever? And even if we don't, don't we all realize that millions of people infected with AIDS in Africa means that there are millions of people who are totally capable of transmitting the disease elsewhere? Even if we made it a thing of the past in developed, wealthy countries, it would still affect us all.
Also, props to parent for recognizing the most heinous part of this whole international copyright-infringement farce.
Those are the key words.
Thank you, but my point (and not being a native speaker of Spanish) was that you would not use "libre" when you really meant "gratis". In English they're the same word.
...is a hardware platform that consumers are guaranteed will work with a particular distribution of Linux. It doesn't even matter which one it is as long as it comes, out of the box, ready for use. That's the only thing that, so far, Windows has always had up on any distro of Linux.
In Spanish there are gratis and libre—literally "liberated". Could we call it liberated software?
Brilliant! Then you could sell or give it away to one of your enemies, then activate the anti-theft and BOOM!
If that were true, wouldn't he post as an AC?
Why isn't this tagged 'pwnt'?
Recalling my machine shop classes ages ago, yes, you're absolutely right. B is for liquid fuel fires.
Either way, it's not so much tripping the connections on the battery I'd be worried about. I'd be much more concerned about the reaction between lithium and water where the lithium steals electrons, freeing oxygen and hydrogen from the water. Fun times!
Yeah. Totally not the people to whom I was referring. I'm speaking more of people that I've met in the rainforests of Costa Rica that have a sense of the natural world around them so keen and intuitive to them that it's almost as if they were born with it. There's stuff they know that we still don't, or at least stuff that they've known forever that would take concerted effort by us to find out. Apples and oranges, my friend.
Also, for each of your 15 crystal-waving loons, there's at least a couple, say, accupuncturists that take their work very seriously and study for years to get as good as they are. And unlike waving crystals around, accupuncture is an "alternative medicine" technique that commonly does work for a wide variety of ailments. In fact, my insurance covers it.
Living in a mysterious world and living in a world we don't understand . . . I don't get what distinction you're trying to make there. Since the world didn't come with a detailed user guide telling us everything about it, and there's stuff we haven't figured out, I'd classify that as being pretty mysterious. Doesn't mean it's a bad thing, though.
The proper way is with a dry chemical fire extinguisher rated for electrical and metal fires, so a class ABC or BC fire extinguisher. They usually spray out a combination of carbon dioxide and/or baking soda-like material and can safely be used on any kind of fire.
Thank you, thank you. Let this be a lesson to the kids out there: don't waste your day reading Slashdot. Go fly a kite :D .
There are many routes to finding this knowledge other than your scientific ones. Natives in North and South America, as well as Africa, have medicine men who work on some completely different level than you or I. They have knowledge of plants and combinations of plants for many therapeutic purposes that we would take hundreds of years to figure out; they've just always known about them. If you asked one of them, they'd tell you that the plants spoke to them and told them about themselves.
We want to think we're so much more advanced than they are, but it only looks like we're winning because we, living in moderately safer environments (i.e., there aren't really any predators looking to eat any of us here in the city) and having access to hospitals and whatnot tend to live longer.
And finally, really now, moderators, the "flamebait" mod is there to preserve civility here. Use it.
So . . . we should just bury tons of lithium? Brilliant!