Somewhere, at Disney HQ...
I can picture it now... a movie about dunnarts... Danny, I call him... John! Get the lawyers on line! We've got an OS to ruin!
Except the CEO probably isn't a geek.
A computer party in Norwegian translates to dataparty, which in two words is an adjective describing noun (data party would of course be nonsensical, because data is not an adjective)
We are in fact seeing quite the direct opposite happening here in Norway, much to the chagrin of Norwegian grammar fetishists (Being the geek I am, I am the English grammar fetishist;))
One amusing example of this causing trouble is a sign maker's logo reading "Skilt Mann a/s" (a/s = inc.) - 'Skilt' can mean two different things - divorced (adjective), and sign(noun). Therefore, most of the Nordea banks have signs reading "Divorced Man inc." at the bottom;)
Freddy the Dish does run on Macintosh. She should've bought the box next to the one labelled "For Windows". Or, since it would be safe to assume that Freddy doesn't have the latest in blood'n'gore ultra-high-res anti-aliased 3d action - use VirtualPC...?
The problem of DEC is that they led the path with their brilliantly designed minimachines (I should know, I'm restoring one - PDP-7 - engineering beauty beyond belief. When a transistor costs a day's salary, one does ones best to reduce transistors to lowest amount possible! There were some aweinspiring reuses of transistors in that thing), but they got stuck in a rut. They didn't quite manage to cross over completely. They got overambitious, trying to take over every aspect of the market (DB engine bought by Oracle, etc, etc) and simply failed. That, and, appropriately on-topic, an idiot CEO. Here are pics of the PDP-7 if you want'em, btw
I was indeed referring to stretch. And they DID build it. It just bombed due to engineers making some real bad estimates about their pipelining features. The Stretch prepared engineers for the System/360, which was an IMMENSELY successful IBM machine. It was completed in 1962 and delivered to NSA as part of the Harvest system. Innovations on that machine are just too dang numerous to list, but I mention the Tractor tape system, which was the first tape cartridge self loading library.
And the 7094MII was not at all inferior. It, and its little brother, the 1401 (of 1403 printer fame) were highly successful.
BTW, what example were you thinking of?
Times do indeed change. But, however, I must protest on your MTBF quote. MTBF was *NOT* 15 hours. The CDC7600 was a reliable computer with lavish redundancy.
Interestingly, some books quote the MTBF as 9.1 hours, but this was due to every job inside the OS for the 6600 and the 7600 had a Maximum Job Time Limit, but this could easily be overridden by storing a checkpoint memory dump, and restoring from the tape automatically.
Quoting a reliable source (ed-thelen.org)
"(Our 6600's ran months with out unscheduled maintenance time. Every few months the CDC Customer Engineers would (rather rudely) demand machine time - like to do Engineering Change Orders)"
and
"To give an idea of the reliability of the 6600, I liked to program and calculate Pi as a method of learning a new machine's assembly language. I did it to 500,000 decimal places in about 60 hours on a CDC-6600 one Thanksgiving weekend. Because of the length of time, I had to write a check point dump of the intermediate results after 8 hours, and restart the job from the check point dump, over and over until the job was done. That meant I went into work every 8 hours all during that weekend until the 60 hour running time was complete. There was no worry on my part that the 6600 would fail during that weekend run - and the value of Pi was correct as determined later from faster machines with larger memories."
Well, innovation was NEVER stifled. They tried to shut down CDC, but they failed, so it had no real effect.
I agree they used anticompetitory strategies. In fact, FUD was coined when making a campaign saying that IBM was developing an ultrapowerful machine, curing the problem that everyone was switching over to CDC's when the EXTREMELY innovative 6600 came out (Designed by Cray, btw). Before the also innovative 7600 came out, the market share had plummeted, but was restored during the trials.
BUT! Many of the world's computer innovation came from IBM: Data channels, Memory protection, and too many others to list at 03:51 AM.
Apolleoges forre splehing.
-Tore Sig files? SIG FILES?? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' SIG FILES!!!
Erm, except for the fact that Unics was written by Dennis who wanted to learn how to do some cool graphics routine for the PDP-7 340 vector display... And Ken wanted to make that little file system he'd been thinking about - - Unics was written for fun, failed when it was taken over by bizdroids and excelled when hackers once again took it on. Go Linus! (BTW - PDP-7 vector graphics are sexy. I have a PDP-7 I'm restoring so I should know)
The ViewSonic beauties are high-end, so they do have sync control. Screeching noises are due to the sync levels dropping down to human-audible frequencies. This isn't good for your monitor, but neither will it kill.
Then your friend has a way too old monitor. That is what happens when the sync reaches zero and the flyback stops disippating its energy as power and starts doing it as heat.
The original IBM PC's had this problem. Due to this, most screens have a "sync control" that checks for non-standard values.
Erm, yeah...
That might have something to do with the GPL disclaiming ALL RESPONSIBILITY, and MS being payware developed by a company that does this for a living.
Morons like you ought to be put to sleep.... a blue shade of sleep...
History repeats itself...!
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"I can't think of desktop applications where you would need more than 4 gigabytes of physical memory, which is what you have to have in order to benefit from this technology. Right now, it is costly."
Why did that sound frighteningly like "4GB RAM ought to be enough for everyone"?
"This release is going to be driven by technology, not by a release date. Which probably means it is going to be late."
And in other news... Microsoft announced that Linux had a point and that work on re-releasing longhorn as GPL is underway.
The PDP-7 Restoration Project
http://tore.nortia.no
I'm restoring a PDP-7 and when I get it running I'm probably going to write an IRC client in ASM. This will count as active usage, I presume. Oh, and the URL for pictures (geek pr0n) is http://tore.nortia.no. It sports an 18-bit word, *four* 4Kword ferromagnetic core arrays, an Automatic Priority interrupt. Oh, and don't forget the revolutionary DECtape, storing up to 3 MB, directly addressable.
But the oldest one in active use is a 1983 HP 150 machine, (the first machine to use 3.22" floppies, with a 270K format), which I use to turn in my homework. It is the only machine for which I have a printer.
Newest is a P4 1600 with 512 and GF4.
I am much of a history loving sort of guy (Something which my homepage makes quite obvious, http://tore.nortia.no) so of course I search for stuff like that in the context of the PDP-7. BTW, what did you mean by 1127?
Slashdot Mirror
But from where would we get our dose of slashdot stereotype jokes?
:)
I for one, welcome our new slashdot-flooding overlords.
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these jokes!
etc...
Somewhere, at Disney HQ...
I can picture it now... a movie about dunnarts... Danny, I call him... John! Get the lawyers on line! We've got an OS to ruin! Except the CEO probably isn't a geek.
Because Norwegian grammar dictates it.
;))
;)
A computer party in Norwegian translates to dataparty, which in two words is an adjective describing noun (data party would of course be nonsensical, because data is not an adjective)
We are in fact seeing quite the direct opposite happening here in Norway, much to the chagrin of Norwegian grammar fetishists (Being the geek I am, I am the English grammar fetishist
One amusing example of this causing trouble is a sign maker's logo reading "Skilt Mann a/s" (a/s = inc.) - 'Skilt' can mean two different things - divorced (adjective), and sign(noun). Therefore, most of the Nordea banks have signs reading "Divorced Man inc." at the bottom
For y'all Norwegianpeople
Well, that, and most /.'ers compulsive twitching at the pronounciation of... the evil empire's name.
If you don't shut up I'll turn on my ASR-33, and deafen you with the sounds of type cylinders flying,
gears cranking, and paper tape running...!
I've got a roll of paper tape. It's huge. I thing it stores 4K or something.
Someone calculate one TB with the assumption of 8 bytes per inch? Fellow geeks, I call upon thee!
Oh, yeah, and it's a part of my PDP-7.
At the end of Wierd Al's ingenious UHF movie (Out on DVD!) there is this long gag at the credits. Mind you, moose bites can be pritti nasti.
I can see it already... "Can't satisfy the statistics? Enlarge your database NOW!"
Freddy the Dish does run on Macintosh. She should've bought the box next to the one labelled "For Windows". Or, since it would be safe to assume that Freddy doesn't have the latest in blood'n'gore ultra-high-res anti-aliased 3d action - use VirtualPC...?
The problem of DEC is that they led the path with their brilliantly designed minimachines (I should know, I'm restoring one - PDP-7 - engineering beauty beyond belief. When a transistor costs a day's salary, one does ones best to reduce transistors to lowest amount possible! There were some aweinspiring reuses of transistors in that thing), but they got stuck in a rut. They didn't quite manage to cross over completely. They got overambitious, trying to take over every aspect of the market (DB engine bought by Oracle, etc, etc) and simply failed. That, and, appropriately on-topic, an idiot CEO. Here are pics of the PDP-7 if you want'em, btw
I was indeed referring to stretch. And they DID build it. It just bombed due to engineers making some real bad estimates about their pipelining features. The Stretch prepared engineers for the System/360, which was an IMMENSELY successful IBM machine. It was completed in 1962 and delivered to NSA as part of the Harvest system. Innovations on that machine are just too dang numerous to list, but I mention the Tractor tape system, which was the first tape cartridge self loading library. And the 7094MII was not at all inferior. It, and its little brother, the 1401 (of 1403 printer fame) were highly successful. BTW, what example were you thinking of?
Times do indeed change. But, however, I must protest on your MTBF quote. MTBF was *NOT* 15 hours. The CDC7600 was a reliable computer with lavish redundancy. Interestingly, some books quote the MTBF as 9.1 hours, but this was due to every job inside the OS for the 6600 and the 7600 had a Maximum Job Time Limit, but this could easily be overridden by storing a checkpoint memory dump, and restoring from the tape automatically. Quoting a reliable source (ed-thelen.org) "(Our 6600's ran months with out unscheduled maintenance time. Every few months the CDC Customer Engineers would (rather rudely) demand machine time - like to do Engineering Change Orders)" and "To give an idea of the reliability of the 6600, I liked to program and calculate Pi as a method of learning a new machine's assembly language. I did it to 500,000 decimal places in about 60 hours on a CDC-6600 one Thanksgiving weekend. Because of the length of time, I had to write a check point dump of the intermediate results after 8 hours, and restart the job from the check point dump, over and over until the job was done. That meant I went into work every 8 hours all during that weekend until the 60 hour running time was complete. There was no worry on my part that the 6600 would fail during that weekend run - and the value of Pi was correct as determined later from faster machines with larger memories."
Well, innovation was NEVER stifled. They tried to shut down CDC, but they failed, so it had no real effect.
I agree they used anticompetitory strategies. In fact, FUD was coined when making a campaign saying that IBM was developing an ultrapowerful machine, curing the problem that everyone was switching over to CDC's when the EXTREMELY innovative 6600 came out (Designed by Cray, btw). Before the also innovative 7600 came out, the market share had plummeted, but was restored during the trials.
BUT! Many of the world's computer innovation came from IBM: Data channels, Memory protection, and too many others to list at 03:51 AM.
Apolleoges forre splehing.
-Tore
Sig files? SIG FILES?? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' SIG FILES!!!
Erm, except for the fact that Unics was written by Dennis who wanted to learn how to do some cool graphics routine for the PDP-7 340 vector display... And Ken wanted to make that little file system he'd been thinking about - - Unics was written for fun, failed when it was taken over by bizdroids and excelled when hackers once again took it on. Go Linus! (BTW - PDP-7 vector graphics are sexy. I have a PDP-7 I'm restoring so I should know)
...But what were they called again...?
Cute thing is... You spent 5 minutes writing this and will spend even more time checking for replies and, and.... *raises one eyebrow*
The ViewSonic beauties are high-end, so they do have sync control. Screeching noises are due to the sync levels dropping down to human-audible frequencies. This isn't good for your monitor, but neither will it kill.
Then your friend has a way too old monitor. That is what happens when the sync reaches zero and the flyback stops disippating its energy as power and starts doing it as heat. The original IBM PC's had this problem. Due to this, most screens have a "sync control" that checks for non-standard values.
Erm, yeah... That might have something to do with the GPL disclaiming ALL RESPONSIBILITY, and MS being payware developed by a company that does this for a living. Morons like you ought to be put to sleep.... a blue shade of sleep...
...Was that you?!?
"I can't think of desktop applications where you would need more than 4 gigabytes of physical memory, which is what you have to have in order to benefit from this technology. Right now, it is costly."
Why did that sound frighteningly like "4GB RAM ought to be enough for everyone"?
DOES THE MAN NEVER LEARN?!?
The PDP-7 Restoration Project
tore.nortia.no
"This release is going to be driven by technology, not by a release date. Which probably means it is going to be late." And in other news... Microsoft announced that Linux had a point and that work on re-releasing longhorn as GPL is underway. The PDP-7 Restoration Project http://tore.nortia.no
Ahh, OK. Thanks. I was thinking in terms of 11/27... :) But they (you?) were using the /70 and /35 before that, from dim memory,
But I read it on the Internet... So it must be true!
I'm restoring a PDP-7 and when I get it running I'm probably going to write an IRC client in ASM. This will count as active usage, I presume. Oh, and the URL for pictures (geek pr0n) is http://tore.nortia.no. It sports an 18-bit word, *four* 4Kword ferromagnetic core arrays, an Automatic Priority interrupt. Oh, and don't forget the revolutionary DECtape, storing up to 3 MB, directly addressable. But the oldest one in active use is a 1983 HP 150 machine, (the first machine to use 3.22" floppies, with a 270K format), which I use to turn in my homework. It is the only machine for which I have a printer. Newest is a P4 1600 with 512 and GF4.
Live Long and Prosper -Tore
I am much of a history loving sort of guy (Something which my homepage makes quite obvious, http://tore.nortia.no) so of course I search for stuff like that in the context of the PDP-7. BTW, what did you mean by 1127?