MS bought Nokia for the patents too. The Apple/Samsung battles are going to be nothing compared to the upcoming GoogleSamsung/MicrosoftNokia wars. We've even seen the opening salvos, now the big guns are being brought up.
What?!? They don't get a cut of MS!?!? Sheesh!
And the phone business is only half of Nokia? !yes, they're very well known for all their non-phone tech.
In the US, you pay for calls made and received (all part of your call allowance).
In the UK, anyone calling you pays, after all, why should you pay for them to get in touch with you, you didn't ask them too. A far better way to handle it. Alas, in the US, you get charged both sides of the equation because... they can.
*some networks mask this, offer free calls at certain times, or on same network, but you never know if the person calling you is going to cost you or not, after all, how do you know what network they're on?
Aye, I think it's more likely that it'll take use of that 2nd screen window thing that 4.2? onwards has had in the system, just not used in anger yet. Having a render surface on the device, then cast that over, so you get it controllable on if you want a screen mirrored, or something on the tablet, then something else cast over might be the more long term solution. How faffy it can be from sending stuff over from a chrome tab, I can see they'd want to keep working on things so an SDK change at this point? Understandable.
Shame Koushik's app was broken and hopefully comes back once the platform's more stable.
It's been paid for since... 7ish years ago. Higher taxes to pay for something that the tax payers didn't get so...
Can we have the money back for the nuke plant we paid for but didn't get? No? I see.
Again, where's the money?
At least deals could/would be done with the right people instead of Apple fraudulently trying to get the money?
Or maybe it's part of MS's plan to weaken the opposition. Then again, don't all the Android makers pay MS for some patent they won't tell us about? Could this be related (as why everyone else hasn't been hit, just Samsung?)
Don't know, it's going to continue to get messier as we go on I'm sure.
But I still want to see Apple sued for infringing on someone else's patent. Which will make for fascinating reporting and highlight how bad the Patent office really is.
Even made it to the evening chat shows when Samsung lost. I look forward to them now making jokes about Apple abusing the system, or the utter shambles that's the US Patent office.
For more lulz, Samsung should buy the original IP holder of pinch to zoom and counter sue Apple for stealing THEIR patents.
I get the impression that the nexus devices are deliberately reduced with those sorts of features. A) to avoid patents/licensing (which is the SD-Card thing I think B) to keep the cost as low as possible C) to give a reason for their hardware partners to produce something different, at different price points.
Some people will pay the extra for the sd-card and replaceable batteries. it's good to have that choice
I think the reason they're twitchy is they use the information provided for their own benefits, after all, they're the only ones allowed to trade on insider information.
Having the info on what's happening is worth money. The spying on innocent citizens is accidental and covers their other deeds.
After chatting to someone who's now involved with that kind of stuff.. (not the NSA specifically, but intel services), The kool-aid has been drunk of deeply.
"LOOK! SOMEONE has to stop the bad guys!"
'but... this isn't about the bad guys, this is about you breaking the constitution and spying on innocent citizens"
"We don't! It's not like that?"
"Well, how is it?"
"I can't say"
"I get it, but... you do get that whole 4th amendment thing right? that's now you, you're the gov, and you're now breaking it"
"But it's to catch the bad guys"
"Right, but you're saying that everyone's the bad guys when you spy on everyone"
"We don't spy on everyone"
"YOU don't, but.. can the system do it if it needs to? ie, could this be above your pay-grade?"
"..."
"yeah, thought so. You used to be cool man"
Plus of course the gov now has to decide what IS and is NOT classed as Pornography. Are we going to get to the point of famous works of art being flagged? It's going to happen.
Or a family that assumed everything was locked down, go into little Timmy's room to find him playing with himself to a picture of The Birth of Venus, then provoke moral outrage. Destroy the art, burn the books (that describe immoral acts).
Amazing stuff, it's always the political right that believe in personal responsibility (as this sort of thing should be, take the laptop away, put it in the family room, adult supervision for 'the kids' sake) that does the heavy handed censorship.
Plus, every dad's going to be asking little Timmy how these 'Vee pee enns' work.
Very much so. The stock in that first day alone would go crazy up, Gates could pump and dump himself to get even crazier richer for his other projects.
I get a feeling it just needs Gates (or someone with his power) to sit in meetings and yell out 'THAT'S STUPID' when people do demos, something that I feel hasn't happened for the last 10ish years.
"You want to dump backwards compatibility? Windows? Our core product we sell everything else on top of? THAT HAS TO BE THE WORST IDEA EVER"
"We've spent 20 years nearly getting people used to the Start Button, hired the Stones to sing 'start me up', tied everything to that in training/promotional material, and now you want to get rid of it? HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO BREATH WITHOUT CONCENTRATING"
"Our user studies for 30 years show to never use colour to denote function, too many people are colour blind/colours mean different things in different cultures (you remember we sell outside the US, right?). And now you show me something that looks like a kid who ate a pack of crayons has thrown up on the screen, and expect me to congratulate you? WHY ARE YOU EVEN IN THIS BUILDING?? WHO LET YOU IN?!??"
Aye, it's the sort of thing if they do a firesale on it, everyone will only get it to try and install Android on!
At 99bucks, maybe 150 in a firesale, I'd pick 1 or 2 up for bathroom browsing.
Yup, they'll be donated to schools that don't want them, the tax benefit will be great for MS, and they can then sell the schools exchange servers to support them at a decent profit.
Hmm, that's a good point. If following orders from a Government representative, then...
Ok, can the person searched now sue the valet company? "Just following orders", or would it be the TSA (as you've not agreed to walk by the checkpoint).
The lawyers will be lining up for this one.
That's it exactly. I don't get it, they're normally sneakier than this. The current events are making them look mind numbingly incompetent.
wait. unless that's Obama's plan all along... so he HAS to, under not so strong protests, gets rid of them? Cunning as a sackful of hamsters.
To be fair, I've never understood why Samsung allows their demo models to be so terrible to use. The Galaxy Tab's on display to play with, I couldn't believe how laggy/slow they were compared to the one I had (pre messing about with custom roms). Don't know if it's because of the demo software/out of date OS, or lesser hardware to save a few bucks on a device that isn't actually sold, but yeah, when you play with one in a store, and one that someone actually owns, the difference is incredibly noticeable.
Yup, this is why the UK dropped out of the last time it was done, Echelon. The US was spying on the UK but wasn't handing all the data over, but giving it to US companies to get better deals.
Hmm, something for Google to really jump into, the Enterprise area.
So don't need Play Store, but 'Enterprise Store' stuff, let the admin control who has what and when.
Odd Google don't have something like this, seems the sort of thing people would pay for.
Hmm, I was shocked at how much there IS here (though I'm coming from a wasteland in the UK). There's a cool vc/cafe/workspace area downtown (Windwood area? I'm unsure of the names, but the place with the cool graffiti all over the place near downtown). Opposite, there's a monstrous VC/development hothouse. There's the weekend get together of geeks where people bring in Glass, HTC send devs to show new toys/get feedback. And this planetlinux cafe (that I must admit is the one place I've not been to yet). I've no idea what it's like in places like San Francisco, but I'v been shocked at how many techies and support groups there actually are in the area.
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MS bought Nokia for the patents too. The Apple/Samsung battles are going to be nothing compared to the upcoming GoogleSamsung/MicrosoftNokia wars. We've even seen the opening salvos, now the big guns are being brought up.
What?!? They don't get a cut of MS!?!? Sheesh! And the phone business is only half of Nokia? !yes, they're very well known for all their non-phone tech.
In the US, you pay for calls made and received (all part of your call allowance). In the UK, anyone calling you pays, after all, why should you pay for them to get in touch with you, you didn't ask them too. A far better way to handle it. Alas, in the US, you get charged both sides of the equation because... they can. *some networks mask this, offer free calls at certain times, or on same network, but you never know if the person calling you is going to cost you or not, after all, how do you know what network they're on?
Appears so, or Technet subs, oh, wait...
Windows Mobile the best option? Eeep!
Aye, I think it's more likely that it'll take use of that 2nd screen window thing that 4.2? onwards has had in the system, just not used in anger yet. Having a render surface on the device, then cast that over, so you get it controllable on if you want a screen mirrored, or something on the tablet, then something else cast over might be the more long term solution. How faffy it can be from sending stuff over from a chrome tab, I can see they'd want to keep working on things so an SDK change at this point? Understandable.
Shame Koushik's app was broken and hopefully comes back once the platform's more stable.
It's been paid for since... 7ish years ago. Higher taxes to pay for something that the tax payers didn't get so... Can we have the money back for the nuke plant we paid for but didn't get? No? I see. Again, where's the money?
At least deals could/would be done with the right people instead of Apple fraudulently trying to get the money? Or maybe it's part of MS's plan to weaken the opposition. Then again, don't all the Android makers pay MS for some patent they won't tell us about? Could this be related (as why everyone else hasn't been hit, just Samsung?)
Don't know, it's going to continue to get messier as we go on I'm sure.
But I still want to see Apple sued for infringing on someone else's patent. Which will make for fascinating reporting and highlight how bad the Patent office really is.
Even made it to the evening chat shows when Samsung lost. I look forward to them now making jokes about Apple abusing the system, or the utter shambles that's the US Patent office. For more lulz, Samsung should buy the original IP holder of pinch to zoom and counter sue Apple for stealing THEIR patents.
I get the impression that the nexus devices are deliberately reduced with those sorts of features.
A) to avoid patents/licensing (which is the SD-Card thing I think B) to keep the cost as low as possible C) to give a reason for their hardware partners to produce something different, at different price points.
Some people will pay the extra for the sd-card and replaceable batteries. it's good to have that choice
I think the reason they're twitchy is they use the information provided for their own benefits, after all, they're the only ones allowed to trade on insider information. Having the info on what's happening is worth money. The spying on innocent citizens is accidental and covers their other deeds.
Yup, they've said 'but we're the good guys' to themselves so often, they believe it.
After chatting to someone who's now involved with that kind of stuff.. (not the NSA specifically, but intel services), The kool-aid has been drunk of deeply. "LOOK! SOMEONE has to stop the bad guys!" 'but... this isn't about the bad guys, this is about you breaking the constitution and spying on innocent citizens" "We don't! It's not like that?" "Well, how is it?" "I can't say" "I get it, but... you do get that whole 4th amendment thing right? that's now you, you're the gov, and you're now breaking it" "But it's to catch the bad guys" "Right, but you're saying that everyone's the bad guys when you spy on everyone" "We don't spy on everyone" "YOU don't, but.. can the system do it if it needs to? ie, could this be above your pay-grade?" "..." "yeah, thought so. You used to be cool man"
Plus of course the gov now has to decide what IS and is NOT classed as Pornography. Are we going to get to the point of famous works of art being flagged? It's going to happen. Or a family that assumed everything was locked down, go into little Timmy's room to find him playing with himself to a picture of The Birth of Venus, then provoke moral outrage. Destroy the art, burn the books (that describe immoral acts). Amazing stuff, it's always the political right that believe in personal responsibility (as this sort of thing should be, take the laptop away, put it in the family room, adult supervision for 'the kids' sake) that does the heavy handed censorship. Plus, every dad's going to be asking little Timmy how these 'Vee pee enns' work.
Very much so. The stock in that first day alone would go crazy up, Gates could pump and dump himself to get even crazier richer for his other projects.
I get a feeling it just needs Gates (or someone with his power) to sit in meetings and yell out 'THAT'S STUPID' when people do demos, something that I feel hasn't happened for the last 10ish years.
"You want to dump backwards compatibility? Windows? Our core product we sell everything else on top of? THAT HAS TO BE THE WORST IDEA EVER"
"We've spent 20 years nearly getting people used to the Start Button, hired the Stones to sing 'start me up', tied everything to that in training/promotional material, and now you want to get rid of it? HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO BREATH WITHOUT CONCENTRATING"
"Our user studies for 30 years show to never use colour to denote function, too many people are colour blind/colours mean different things in different cultures (you remember we sell outside the US, right?). And now you show me something that looks like a kid who ate a pack of crayons has thrown up on the screen, and expect me to congratulate you? WHY ARE YOU EVEN IN THIS BUILDING?? WHO LET YOU IN?!??"
Aye, it's the sort of thing if they do a firesale on it, everyone will only get it to try and install Android on! At 99bucks, maybe 150 in a firesale, I'd pick 1 or 2 up for bathroom browsing.
Yup, they'll be donated to schools that don't want them, the tax benefit will be great for MS, and they can then sell the schools exchange servers to support them at a decent profit.
Hmm, that's a good point. If following orders from a Government representative, then... Ok, can the person searched now sue the valet company? "Just following orders", or would it be the TSA (as you've not agreed to walk by the checkpoint). The lawyers will be lining up for this one.
I wonder how many of the politicians who won't help him are scared silly on what secrets of theirs may be revealed.
That's it exactly. I don't get it, they're normally sneakier than this. The current events are making them look mind numbingly incompetent. wait. unless that's Obama's plan all along... so he HAS to, under not so strong protests, gets rid of them? Cunning as a sackful of hamsters.
I thought everyone had to be already. Least all the hoops I've had to jump through with all our clients who insist in it, and auditing of it.
To be fair, I've never understood why Samsung allows their demo models to be so terrible to use. The Galaxy Tab's on display to play with, I couldn't believe how laggy/slow they were compared to the one I had (pre messing about with custom roms). Don't know if it's because of the demo software/out of date OS, or lesser hardware to save a few bucks on a device that isn't actually sold, but yeah, when you play with one in a store, and one that someone actually owns, the difference is incredibly noticeable.
Yup, this is why the UK dropped out of the last time it was done, Echelon. The US was spying on the UK but wasn't handing all the data over, but giving it to US companies to get better deals.
Hmm, something for Google to really jump into, the Enterprise area. So don't need Play Store, but 'Enterprise Store' stuff, let the admin control who has what and when. Odd Google don't have something like this, seems the sort of thing people would pay for.
Hmm, I was shocked at how much there IS here (though I'm coming from a wasteland in the UK). There's a cool vc/cafe/workspace area downtown (Windwood area? I'm unsure of the names, but the place with the cool graffiti all over the place near downtown). Opposite, there's a monstrous VC/development hothouse. There's the weekend get together of geeks where people bring in Glass, HTC send devs to show new toys/get feedback. And this planetlinux cafe (that I must admit is the one place I've not been to yet). I've no idea what it's like in places like San Francisco, but I'v been shocked at how many techies and support groups there actually are in the area.