So lets emulate windows in linux. Now lets emulate DirectX in the emulated windows in linux.
WINE - A recursive acronym for Wine Is Not an Emulator, and it's true. Wine is a re-implementation of the win32 dlls for linux, and a win32 environment simulator that more-or-less turns your linux partition into a working base windows installation. Emulation dictates software that reimplements the set of opcodes for a certain processor, memory handling, i/o, etc. the DirectX port that TransGaming is writing is in fact a native implementation of DirectX, and it plugs directly into wine.
They expect to get 20,000 linux users to subscribe to a monthly service instead of dual booting. Personally I would rather pay for win98 once rather than pay a monthly fee for what is probably going to be a worse product.
Well.. that's you personally. There's plenty of us who would rather stick to our OS of choice for playing games. I sincerely hate having to boot windows for every single MMORPG or FPS I like playing, as do most other linux gamers.
It will probably be worse because they have to keep the API up to date against a fast moving target (direct X), and all this is entirely pointless if X and GNU/Linux doesn't keep up with the latest and greatest hardware that gamers crave.
I've never had trouble finding any drivers for my machine (Radeon 64MBDDR, SoundBlaster Live!MP3+5.1,TDK12x10x32x,CreativePC-DVD12x32x,Vie wSonicA70)
I personally think Loki had the right idea, but they learned that people would rather just dual boot, it is simple, clean and flexable. Dual booting allows you to play WHATEVER windows games you want!
Dual booting isn't exactly fun -- How many times have you said to yourself, "I wish this game was ported to linux.." Well, Companies like Transgaming are trying to make that a reality. If you want games in Linux, or if you want Linux to be the "popular" OS, there's no other way.
I bought a game for my little brother a while back.. it was called Super Noah's Ark 3D. I picked it up at Family Bookstore which is a Christian Store in Dallas..
Hidden activities are anti-democratic. If citizens aren't allowed to know what the government does, how can citizens help govern? Are your tax dollars being spent wisely? You are not allowed to know.
This statement is a little misinformed. Think if the all of the US's private intelligence and weaponry information was made public once it was released - It's a major security weakness. If your enemies know your weakness they have an advantage. The reason for agencies like the NSA keeping information from the public is strategic, not a conspiracy.
Not only was the Browser included with the OS, but it was embedded into the Operating System. So much in fact, that you had to go praise 7 monkeys under a blue lit moon while the sky rains chocolate covered bananas just to remove it from your system.
The core difference between Linux Distro's including apps with their releases and Windows embedding IE into Win98 is the fact that the common, every day user has the ability and the right to choose something else. Not to mention, all major distros have both KDE and Gnome included, with several browsers. (For instance: Redhat 7.2beta came with Konqueror, Galeon, Mozilla, Netscape, Lynx, etc..)
Anyway, the computer software field will be better off without you. CS isn't about learning specific languages; it is about learning universal concepts. Specific languages are a dime a dozen and anyone who bothers to learn the basics correctly can pick up a new language in a matter of days.
This is so true.. I have people constantly asking me, "How many languages do I need to know to be a programmer?". Most of these people are in it for the money and have no desire to actually program.. They are the entire reason the IT-industry is going through it's "sifting" period. Programming is about abstract concepts, ability to design solutions, and creativity.. Many people know many languages, but don't know the first thing about problem solving skills.
First of all, I'd like to say that I love Myth 2. Without SDL, I don't know that Loki would have business. Anyway, on to the question.
The Linux desktop as a whole has gained ground-breaking increases in the number of users, but still falls way behind Windows. In my opinion, the only thing that's holding back Linux is it's lack of entertainment, specifically in the game department. In order for Linux to truly take off, Linux needs a plethora of games to even try and be on the same level as Windows.
Where do you see Linux gaming in the next few years, and do you think it will directly affect the number of users?
If we assume that we are using a device that you own and control (such as your personal computer), then what follows is a universal truth:
If it is true that you can see (i.e. displayed on your screen) the representation of electronic information,
then it is also always true that you can make a duplicate of that information and use it as you please.
This is generally true, except for goatse.cx... i don't think anyone would be pleased to use that information, even though it appears on slashdotter's screens all the time.
Current "software-selling" business models are the major money makers in the industry.
This model is very centric to the idea that the software can't (or ideally won't) be copied for free (beer), but instead will require a fee to obtain a copy of the binary only software. In my opinion, this is Open Source/Free (liberty)Software's only downfall. For the current software market, Open Source and Free Software don't seem like to have standing ground. I know about other business models that do work based on the idea of Open Source and Free Software, but what I wonder is:
How can Free Software be applied to current markets and be made profitable?
How long will it take for these newly made Free Software business models to penetrate the market, and become a better alternative to current business models?
Now our dear tux can only snowsled under windows, and closed source to boot!! I imagine tux will refuse to work with the people over at sunrise.. and they'll be forced to find a new mascot.
Maybe instead we can get the BSD daemon to snowsled.. now there's an interesting picture.. a devil snowsledding.
I think this was the biggest ego blow of my career.
Another guy and I had been working on a java application to create ringtones. Our client had a timeline of about a month, and it was met pretty easily. Anyway, to make a long story short, the final deliverable meeting consisted of Me, the other developer, our client, and the PM for our project.
It was the normal walkthrough of functionality, and the client was very pleased with the results. He was so pleased in fact, that he asked our PM to tell him what language it was written in. And he said:
"These two guys are the best damn javascript developers in the market!".
I thought the entire idea behind.NET was a cross-language, cross-OS, etc.. web service. Your rant on cross OS GUI development is dead on, I believe, but I just can't see how it has alot to do with.NET and/or Mono, as the whole thing is a service mechanism. I imagined the GUI sides of.NET being implemented natively, but using the abstraction of.NET to enable various web services.. Maybe I'm just way off.
If you're looking for examples of large GUI programs that have been ported, check out StarOffice, GIMP and GTK, Mozilla, Netscape <4.7, the list goes on.. all written w/o java.
Following Microsoft's lead with a.NET implementation is exactly what they want linux to do. Taking your same situation, let's outline a scenario (that has loosely happened in the past):
.NET becomes "viable and productive" as a web-service platform hence, an industry standard.
Mono(or another open source implementation) is on the heels of MS, making a profit, but a considerable less market share than MS.
MS cuts the rope. Making propiertary API changes to explicitly *not work* with any competitors.
One less competitor off of MS's back. In my opinion, this is a very likely situation (learn from the past!). As an alternative, we as a community should be innovating new alternatives to.NET for the following reasons:
We won't be crippled if MS decides to stifle competition(again)
There will be a true divide in Open Source technology and Propiertary technology.. may the best come out on top.
Open source will be seen as more viable as a business model than before.
I would love to work on this kind of project.. In fact if you're interested in starting this up, drop me an email.
"Killer" office apps will most-definately bring more users into the linux world. But step aside from applications for a minute and think of the gaming industry.
"The American PC game market is a $1.2 billion business..."
Tomi Pierce, "Creating a PC Game," Newsweek Special Issue: Computers and the Family, Winter, 1997, p. 22
By this statistic, let's say an average game is $50 and the average windows gamer actually owns 10 games. This means in a single year, 2,400,000 people bought PC games. (this may be bloated). But being modest, let's say 1 million users bought Windows games in 1997. thats 1 million users! The game library for windows is immense. The game library for linux is pitiful (i.e less than 100 games). It is my belief that when linux wins the gaming market, linux will reign supreme in the desktop market.
That's all I've got folks. I can accept computers crashing occasionally, buy Game consoles? Give me break!
Just give microsoft some time. If they can make you accept a non-stable PC then they can sure as hell make you accept a non-stable console. If you change this comment to read "I can't accept computers crashing occasionally".. you might sound like an [insert your fav non-MS OS here] advocate =).
~Marshall
With all the current FUD that's being passed around from MS saying the GPL could never be a viable business alternative.. this is a pretty ironic turn of events.
All capitalist economies are based on one sole fact: competition. Capitalism simply doesn't work without it. In essence, it's like Gracenote is saying , "Hey, no fair! They offer the same thing we do, but for free! We can't make money off that! We have to protect our [lack of] intellectual property!". Looks like the GPL has got corporate america shaking in it's boots =).
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So lets emulate windows in linux. Now lets emulate DirectX in the emulated windows in linux.
WINE - A recursive acronym for Wine Is Not an Emulator, and it's true. Wine is a re-implementation of the win32 dlls for linux, and a win32 environment simulator that more-or-less turns your linux partition into a working base windows installation. Emulation dictates software that reimplements the set of opcodes for a certain processor, memory handling, i/o, etc. the DirectX port that TransGaming is writing is in fact a native implementation of DirectX, and it plugs directly into wine.
They expect to get 20,000 linux users to subscribe to a monthly service instead of dual booting. Personally I would rather pay for win98 once rather than pay a monthly fee for what is probably going to be a worse product.
e wSonicA70)
Well.. that's you personally. There's plenty of us who would rather stick to our OS of choice for playing games. I sincerely hate having to boot windows for every single MMORPG or FPS I like playing, as do most other linux gamers.
It will probably be worse because they have to keep the API up to date against a fast moving target (direct X), and all this is entirely pointless if X and GNU/Linux doesn't keep up with the latest and greatest hardware that gamers crave.
I've never had trouble finding any drivers for my machine (Radeon 64MBDDR, SoundBlaster Live!MP3+5.1,TDK12x10x32x,CreativePC-DVD12x32x,Vi
I personally think Loki had the right idea, but they learned that people would rather just dual boot, it is simple, clean and flexable. Dual booting allows you to play WHATEVER windows games you want!
Dual booting isn't exactly fun -- How many times have you said to yourself, "I wish this game was ported to linux.." Well, Companies like Transgaming are trying to make that a reality. If you want games in Linux, or if you want Linux to be the "popular" OS, there's no other way.
Civil Disobedience:
encoding illegal ringtones into a (pretty much) illegal format, and puting them on an illegal file trading system.
I bought a game for my little brother a while back.. it was called Super Noah's Ark 3D.
I picked it up at Family Bookstore which is a Christian Store in Dallas..
I mean really, who wants random objects to fall out of the sky when they turn on the radio?
Or even worse -- Snoop Dogg?
Hidden activities are anti-democratic. If citizens aren't allowed to know what the government does, how can citizens help govern? Are your tax dollars being spent wisely? You are not allowed to know.
This statement is a little misinformed. Think if the all of the US's private intelligence and weaponry information was made public once it was released - It's a major security weakness. If your enemies know your weakness they have an advantage. The reason for agencies like the NSA keeping information from the public is strategic, not a conspiracy.
Good point, but you're missing the key.
Not only was the Browser included with the OS, but it was embedded into the Operating System. So much in fact, that you had to go praise 7 monkeys under a blue lit moon while the sky rains chocolate covered bananas just to remove it from your system.
The core difference between Linux Distro's including apps with their releases and Windows embedding IE into Win98 is the fact that the common, every day user has the ability and the right to choose something else. Not to mention, all major distros have both KDE and Gnome included, with several browsers. (For instance: Redhat 7.2beta came with Konqueror, Galeon, Mozilla, Netscape, Lynx, etc..)
..or Lignux
Only problem with that is if you pronounce it:
Lihg-nucks
You get into sexual innuendo issues..
BCPL: B, C, PerL (or .pl) Larry Wall said so =).
Anyway, the computer software field will be better off without you. CS isn't about learning specific languages; it is about learning universal concepts. Specific languages are a dime a dozen and anyone who bothers to learn the basics correctly can pick up a new language in a matter of days.
This is so true.. I have people constantly asking me, "How many languages do I need to know to be a programmer?". Most of these people are in it for the money and have no desire to actually program.. They are the entire reason the IT-industry is going through it's "sifting" period. Programming is about abstract concepts, ability to design solutions, and creativity.. Many people know many languages, but don't know the first thing about problem solving skills.
First of all, I'd like to say that I love Myth 2. Without SDL, I don't know that Loki would have business. Anyway, on to the question.
The Linux desktop as a whole has gained ground-breaking increases in the number of users, but still falls way behind Windows. In my opinion, the only thing that's holding back Linux is it's lack of entertainment, specifically in the game department. In order for Linux to truly take off, Linux needs a plethora of games to even try and be on the same level as Windows.
Where do you see Linux gaming in the next few years, and do you think it will directly affect the number of users?
This is generally true, except for goatse.cx... i don't think anyone would be pleased to use that information, even though it appears on slashdotter's screens all the time.
This model is very centric to the idea that the software can't (or ideally won't) be copied for free (beer), but instead will require a fee to obtain a copy of the binary only software. In my opinion, this is Open Source/Free (liberty)Software's only downfall. For the current software market, Open Source and Free Software don't seem like to have standing ground. I know about other business models that do work based on the idea of Open Source and Free Software, but what I wonder is:
How can Free Software be applied to current markets and be made profitable?
How long will it take for these newly made Free Software business models to penetrate the market, and become a better alternative to current business models?
Great, looks like Slashdot slashdotted itself.
Now our dear tux can only snowsled under windows, and closed source to boot!!
I imagine tux will refuse to work with the people over at sunrise.. and they'll be forced to find a new mascot.
Maybe instead we can get the BSD daemon to snowsled.. now there's an interesting picture.. a devil snowsledding.
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I think this was the biggest ego blow of my career.
Another guy and I had been working on a java application to create ringtones. Our client had a timeline of about a month, and it was met pretty easily. Anyway, to make a long story short, the final deliverable meeting consisted of Me, the other developer, our client, and the PM for our project.
It was the normal walkthrough of functionality, and the client was very pleased with the results. He was so pleased in fact, that he asked our PM to tell him what language it was written in. And he said:
"These two guys are the best damn javascript developers in the market!".
What an embarrasment
Redhat 6.2 burned: worthless
Redhat 6.2 in a box: $30
An advertisement for Redhat 6.2 from Sony and ArsTechnica without paying: priceless
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I thought the entire idea behind .NET was a cross-language, cross-OS, etc.. web service. Your rant on cross OS GUI development is dead on, I believe, but I just can't see how it has alot to do with .NET and/or Mono, as the whole thing is a service mechanism. I imagined the GUI sides of .NET being implemented natively, but using the abstraction of .NET to enable various web services.. Maybe I'm just way off.
If you're looking for examples of large GUI programs that have been ported, check out StarOffice, GIMP and GTK, Mozilla, Netscape <4.7, the list goes on.. all written w/o java.
P.S. I'm a java developer as well
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Following Microsoft's lead with a
- .NET becomes "viable and productive" as a web-service platform hence, an industry standard.
- Mono(or another open source implementation) is on the heels of MS, making a profit, but a considerable less market share than MS.
- MS cuts the rope. Making propiertary API changes to explicitly *not work* with any competitors.
One less competitor off of MS's back. In my opinion, this is a very likely situation (learn from the past!). As an alternative, we as a community should be innovating new alternatives to- We won't be crippled if MS decides to stifle competition(again)
- There will be a true divide in Open Source technology and Propiertary technology.. may the best come out on top.
- Open source will be seen as more viable as a business model than before.
I would love to work on this kind of project.. In fact if you're interested in starting this up, drop me an email.-------------------
get rich quick scheme.
They can't accept the simple truth that there's no free lunch. (It's a metaphor)
Maybe we should restructure the internet for information sharing instead.. Oh ya. I forgot, that's what it's good at.
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www.whitehouse.com
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"The American PC game market is a $1.2 billion business..."
Tomi Pierce, "Creating a PC Game," Newsweek Special Issue: Computers and the Family, Winter, 1997, p. 22
By this statistic, let's say an average game is $50 and the average windows gamer actually owns 10 games. This means in a single year, 2,400,000 people bought PC games. (this may be bloated). But being modest, let's say 1 million users bought Windows games in 1997. thats 1 million users! The game library for windows is immense. The game library for linux is pitiful (i.e less than 100 games). It is my belief that when linux wins the gaming market, linux will reign supreme in the desktop market.
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Just give microsoft some time. If they can make you accept a non-stable PC then they can sure as hell make you accept a non-stable console. If you change this comment to read "I can't accept computers crashing occasionally".. you might sound like an [insert your fav non-MS OS here] advocate =). ~Marshall
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Now all we need are project managers that conduct business in their sleep.. (and we all know how often that is).
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With all the current FUD that's being passed around from MS saying the GPL could never be a viable business alternative.. this is a pretty ironic turn of events.
All capitalist economies are based on one sole fact: competition. Capitalism simply doesn't work without it. In essence, it's like Gracenote is saying , "Hey, no fair! They offer the same thing we do, but for free! We can't make money off that! We have to protect our [lack of] intellectual property!".
Looks like the GPL has got corporate america shaking in it's boots =).
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