OK, I'll bite.
Assumptions are the mother of all fuckups. My comments were made with tongue-firmly-in-cheek. Apparently you failed to realize that possibility. Furthermore, I do not expect any company to base a "business decision" on slashdot, and I made no such assertion. If I expected that, I probably would have used a different figure of speech from "planting seeds."
Do I think slashdot threads are important? No. Do I think they get the readers thinking about things? Yes. I understand the impact is minimal. No, I don't need you to lecture me on the insignificance of our little community.
The ideas that can be gleaned from this thread, aside from all the BS (like your post), would help any corporate employee interested in IMing to introduce themselves to the important issues.
I think you might be right about media bias, but I also think that the media tends to shift it's lean from the left to the right and vice-versa a lot more quickly than the general populus. In terms of the general populus, I think we're still leaning a little bit to the right. I don't really have much to base this on...just a general feeling. Of course, I live in Texas...so it's hard for me not to feel that way with all the fundamentalists I have to deal with on a daily basis.
I think we're pretty much in agreement on everything. One of us is just a little more optimistic... I don't necessarily think we're a 'truly enlightened bunch.' I do, however, have a fair amount of hope that we have the ability to elevate ourselves a little closer to that level before our planet decides our time is up. I'm not an idealist...just an optimist. There's a part of me that wants to be just as pessimistic as you seem to be, but overall I've come to think of our current situation as a period of intense growth similar to human adolescence.
Technology is our hot new porsche carrera, and we don't really care to bother with seat belts or safe driving right now because we're young and we just want to have fun. With a little luck, we'll wreck the car without killing ourselves off completely. I think that, maybe, then we'll be able to buy a nice mid-size family sedan that will accomadate the whole planet. If we're really lucky, we'll figure out how to drive the porsche hard, fast, and safely. Hopefully before December 22, 2012 (just in case)...
Ok, fine, I'll bite.
You have all the answers, it seems. You're quite wrong in assuming that I am arrogant. Unlike you, I do not claim to know anything for certain. Conversely, you seem quite certain that this plant will go on living with or without human influence. Who's the arrogant one?
Aside from your arrogance, you completely missed the point of my post. We, as humans, are a part of this planet. Not only are we a part of it, but we are the pinnacle of intelligence and ingenuity that the planet's current evolutionary epoch has been able to create. We, alone, currently have the power to help this planet become than it already is. When we die, a huge chunk of this planet's progression towards a greater existence is erased. All that potential...flushed down the toilet. Sure, the planet lives on, but it could be another few billion years before something with as much potential as us pops up. Will our sun make it that long?
Please.... Pull your head out of your ass and stop making assumptions. I don't know anything. You don't know anything. Science doesn't know anything. God doesn't know anything. We're all trying to figure this shit out. Our 'time' is limited, and when I say "our" that includes the planet...
Planting seeds... I'm sure more than a few google employees read slashdot. What better way to prod them into jumping into the IM game than providing them with a nice healthy slashdot-debate to read over? We just took care of their proposal meeting for them.
Sure, it's not news, but since when is slashdot about news?
Funny how no matter what side you're on, the rest of the world always seems like it's against you. Seems like all you wacky lefties and righties should start realizing this sooner or later. It's just a bit tiresome to see... One after the other:
Liberal: OMGWTF! the whole world is full of conservatisim and the media is a conservative propaganda whore
Conservative: Lord save me. The world is full of liberal baby killing sinners and the media is fueling the fire! FOX news is the only balanced source of news in the whole world!
The reality of the situation is that both sides are just about on equal ground. Things are slightly skewed towards the conservative right now because our president is a staunch conservative. As the election gets closer, the population is beginning to re-evaluate their views and things are balancing out even a little more. FOXnews even ran a story with a slightly liberal slant the other day. I don't remember what it was, but I do remember it left me just slightly dumbfounded.
Me? I guess I would be tagged as a liberal if it came down to it. I'm not proud of it, but there really isn't anywhere else to go if you don't accept the current wave of morality that's sweeping the nation.
This is the kind of technology our species needs to invest more time into. Bringing this planet back to life. Not that we should abandon our adventures into more efficient living for ourselves, but we owe it to our planet to keep it alive if we have the ability to do so.
In the distant future, when we venture beyond this rock, do we really want to leave behind a giant ball of toxic tar orbiting the sun? It seems like we're on the verge of doing just that...if we even make it that far.
It should run better than that on your system. You might want to check for some of the optimization threads by searching the comments on shacknews.com.
I've not followed the 'pro gaming' scene for quite some time, and it never ceases to amaze me how the same players dominate the leagues no matter what game is being played.
Yep, it's there... Search for "deploys" and it comes up as the first news item.
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Pulling your own interpretation out of a book or movie after hearing someone else's interpretation is not difficult. Critical thinking skills are your friend. Think for yourself.
As much as you're going to hate this, in this scenario the IT user is the poor communicator. The user in your scenario doesn't have the skill set to communicate properly.
What about the users who have been reminded of those skills over and over and over again? Users who have the same problems day in and day out and never learn the value of an error message... Users who call you 3 times per week for the same problem only to play out a conversation exactly like the one in the parent...
I really don't understand why the bet sneaks into every headline about this story. Why are humans so obsessed with who was right and wrong? That we have the information is all that really matters...
Modes of play are useless to me. Straight deathmatch and team deathmatch built around a solid set of weapons is all I ever want. Modes of play are for casual gamers looking for the next nifty fad to keep them interested until the next spiffy looking game. Me, I prefer a solid quality experience without all the extra frills...
The debate is over whether or not the level of digital technology that is readily available provides an acceptable replacement for analog sound.
The current product development philosophy seems to be about figuring out what kinds of sacrifices consumers are willing to make for the sake of convenience. Personally, I'm not willing to go too far in that direction. I'd rather start back towards the HDCD side of the audio quality spectrum. The same thing happened when our culture made the switch to tape from records. How much are we willing to give up for the sake of playing music wherever we want it?
We're in a very strange place with regards to sound quality in the audio-world, right now. Ever since the advent of digital sound technology, there has been a simmering debate over the quality of Analog (records, tube amplifiers...) sound as opposed to Digital (CDs, solid state amplifiers...) sound.
Now, there's a subset of this debate over bitrates of audio formats that are on the lower end of the digital quality spectrum. The reality of the situation is that the digital vs. analog issues still have not been resolved. Recently, higher quality digital sound equipment has been entering the consumer market. HDCDs seem to be recognition of the notion that digital CD audio might not have been all that it was cracked up to be.
Do we really want the music industry to settle on a standard that takes us further away from the warmth of analog that serious audiophiles long for?
A lack of an easily discernable difference like that (320 vs. CD quality) doesn't necessarily mean that there is no difference in quality. You have to consider the quality of speakers you're listening through along with a whole host of other factors... Amplifier, soundcard, etc...etc...etc...
The fact is, as soon as a compression algorithm touches a sound, things have been altered in a way that your body _can_ percieve. You might not be able to put your finger on it, or even point your finger at it, but you can bet it's still there.
It's easy to ignore the differences for all practical purposes, but I would prefer not to shift my permanent ($$$) focus to a format that doesn't, at least, go beyond the level of quality that we have with CDs.
I mean, where do you draw the line? Before the musical world began debating which mp3 bitrate was comparable enough to CD quality to be accepted, we had the whole analog vs digital debate. Many people, including myself, still believe that there is a subtle warmth to a sound that comes out of analog equipment that can't be found in most digital equipment. Now, HDCDs are bringing a certain degree of that sound-warmth to consumer digital equipment, but I'm still not sure how much further we have to go... To me, anything less than a CD-Quality.wav file is something I don't want to really fuck with because the.wav file, itself, still isn't up to an analog standard of quality....
How do you ensure you're getting the real thing? If it's active (you feel effects) and it's on a small piece of paper, it's real; nothing else is so active in such small doses (on hit 100 micrograms).
This is no longer true, and this is a very dangerous way to take LSD. There are, at least, 2-3 easily obtainable "research chemicals" which are active in small enough doses to be placed on blotter paper. Additionally, the LD50 (lethal dose in 50% of test subjects) for these chemicals is potentially MUCH lower than that of LSD which has an extremely high LD50 in relation to a normal dose.
Sure, you'll be fine if you take one hit.. The problem arises when 40 years of conditioning kick in, telling us that it's ok to take 10 hits of LSD because that's the way it has always been done. Take 10 hits of one of these other chemicals, and it is likely that you will not see tomorrow.
DO NOT TRUST PAPER EVER AGAIN. Know your source...period. If you don't know that you can trust your source to be knowledgable enough to verify the presence of TRUE LSD, then never take more than 1 hit.
The only safe choices, in this day and age, are the natural ones. Psilocybin Mushrooms and Mescaline containing cacti (peyote, san pedro, etc..)... That's pretty much it. Either one is every bit as safe as LSD in the proper dose-range, and many believe the experiences to be equally rewarding and possibly more gentle on the mind.
These types of agreements are usually very specific. You can still use your skills. You just can't use them to compete directly with your former employer in a specific way. Of course, if you don't want to sign it...I'm sure the hypothetical company would be happy to let you look for another job.
Good analogy, but stuff like this isn't really all that uncommon in the business world. The sport coupe example you gave is a little far fetched, but non-compete agreements are the norm in today's business world.
These types of agreements are common, even, for jobs as seemingly insignificant as a billing clerk at a medical clinic. My wife happens to be a billing clerk for a blossoming emergency medical clinic franchise. The first thing they did after they hired a couple of lawyers to handle the company business is force her to sign a non-compete agreement. In this case and most others, I think, the agreement expires after a year or two.
It's a dangerous path we're treading - where to raise a question immediatley puts you under suspicion of guilt...
COMMUNIST! YOU WORK FOR THE KGB, DON'T YOU?
If they waited until Longhorn to break legacy apps, then there would be a large amount of people who stuck with WinXP simply for compatibily's sake. Then we'd still have a ton of worm-infected machines out there acting as spamserves. What good would that do us? We need the WinXP machines that are out there right now to be less vulnerable. If that means breaking legacy apps is required, oh well...
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OK, I'll bite. Assumptions are the mother of all fuckups. My comments were made with tongue-firmly-in-cheek. Apparently you failed to realize that possibility. Furthermore, I do not expect any company to base a "business decision" on slashdot, and I made no such assertion. If I expected that, I probably would have used a different figure of speech from "planting seeds." Do I think slashdot threads are important? No. Do I think they get the readers thinking about things? Yes. I understand the impact is minimal. No, I don't need you to lecture me on the insignificance of our little community. The ideas that can be gleaned from this thread, aside from all the BS (like your post), would help any corporate employee interested in IMing to introduce themselves to the important issues.
I think you might be right about media bias, but I also think that the media tends to shift it's lean from the left to the right and vice-versa a lot more quickly than the general populus. In terms of the general populus, I think we're still leaning a little bit to the right. I don't really have much to base this on...just a general feeling. Of course, I live in Texas...so it's hard for me not to feel that way with all the fundamentalists I have to deal with on a daily basis.
I think we're pretty much in agreement on everything. One of us is just a little more optimistic... I don't necessarily think we're a 'truly enlightened bunch.' I do, however, have a fair amount of hope that we have the ability to elevate ourselves a little closer to that level before our planet decides our time is up. I'm not an idealist...just an optimist. There's a part of me that wants to be just as pessimistic as you seem to be, but overall I've come to think of our current situation as a period of intense growth similar to human adolescence. Technology is our hot new porsche carrera, and we don't really care to bother with seat belts or safe driving right now because we're young and we just want to have fun. With a little luck, we'll wreck the car without killing ourselves off completely. I think that, maybe, then we'll be able to buy a nice mid-size family sedan that will accomadate the whole planet. If we're really lucky, we'll figure out how to drive the porsche hard, fast, and safely. Hopefully before December 22, 2012 (just in case)...
Ok, fine, I'll bite. You have all the answers, it seems. You're quite wrong in assuming that I am arrogant. Unlike you, I do not claim to know anything for certain. Conversely, you seem quite certain that this plant will go on living with or without human influence. Who's the arrogant one? Aside from your arrogance, you completely missed the point of my post. We, as humans, are a part of this planet. Not only are we a part of it, but we are the pinnacle of intelligence and ingenuity that the planet's current evolutionary epoch has been able to create. We, alone, currently have the power to help this planet become than it already is. When we die, a huge chunk of this planet's progression towards a greater existence is erased. All that potential...flushed down the toilet. Sure, the planet lives on, but it could be another few billion years before something with as much potential as us pops up. Will our sun make it that long? Please.... Pull your head out of your ass and stop making assumptions. I don't know anything. You don't know anything. Science doesn't know anything. God doesn't know anything. We're all trying to figure this shit out. Our 'time' is limited, and when I say "our" that includes the planet...
Planting seeds... I'm sure more than a few google employees read slashdot. What better way to prod them into jumping into the IM game than providing them with a nice healthy slashdot-debate to read over? We just took care of their proposal meeting for them.
Sure, it's not news, but since when is slashdot about news?
Funny how no matter what side you're on, the rest of the world always seems like it's against you. Seems like all you wacky lefties and righties should start realizing this sooner or later. It's just a bit tiresome to see... One after the other:
Liberal: OMGWTF! the whole world is full of conservatisim and the media is a conservative propaganda whore
Conservative: Lord save me. The world is full of liberal baby killing sinners and the media is fueling the fire! FOX news is the only balanced source of news in the whole world!
The reality of the situation is that both sides are just about on equal ground. Things are slightly skewed towards the conservative right now because our president is a staunch conservative. As the election gets closer, the population is beginning to re-evaluate their views and things are balancing out even a little more. FOXnews even ran a story with a slightly liberal slant the other day. I don't remember what it was, but I do remember it left me just slightly dumbfounded.
Me? I guess I would be tagged as a liberal if it came down to it. I'm not proud of it, but there really isn't anywhere else to go if you don't accept the current wave of morality that's sweeping the nation.
This is the kind of technology our species needs to invest more time into. Bringing this planet back to life. Not that we should abandon our adventures into more efficient living for ourselves, but we owe it to our planet to keep it alive if we have the ability to do so.
In the distant future, when we venture beyond this rock, do we really want to leave behind a giant ball of toxic tar orbiting the sun? It seems like we're on the verge of doing just that...if we even make it that far.
It should run better than that on your system. You might want to check for some of the optimization threads by searching the comments on shacknews.com.
I've not followed the 'pro gaming' scene for quite some time, and it never ceases to amaze me how the same players dominate the leagues no matter what game is being played.
Yep, it's there... Search for "deploys" and it comes up as the first news item.
Pulling your own interpretation out of a book or movie after hearing someone else's interpretation is not difficult. Critical thinking skills are your friend. Think for yourself.
As much as you're going to hate this, in this scenario the IT user is the poor communicator. The user in your scenario doesn't have the skill set to communicate properly.
What about the users who have been reminded of those skills over and over and over again? Users who have the same problems day in and day out and never learn the value of an error message... Users who call you 3 times per week for the same problem only to play out a conversation exactly like the one in the parent...
I really don't understand why the bet sneaks into every headline about this story. Why are humans so obsessed with who was right and wrong? That we have the information is all that really matters...
Microsoft certified pros are Britney fans You can't make this stuff up.
Modes of play are useless to me. Straight deathmatch and team deathmatch built around a solid set of weapons is all I ever want. Modes of play are for casual gamers looking for the next nifty fad to keep them interested until the next spiffy looking game. Me, I prefer a solid quality experience without all the extra frills...
Or perhaps it's because most people are aware that the release date from that article is still questionable.
The debate is over whether or not the level of digital technology that is readily available provides an acceptable replacement for analog sound.
The current product development philosophy seems to be about figuring out what kinds of sacrifices consumers are willing to make for the sake of convenience. Personally, I'm not willing to go too far in that direction. I'd rather start back towards the HDCD side of the audio quality spectrum. The same thing happened when our culture made the switch to tape from records. How much are we willing to give up for the sake of playing music wherever we want it?
We're in a very strange place with regards to sound quality in the audio-world, right now. Ever since the advent of digital sound technology, there has been a simmering debate over the quality of Analog (records, tube amplifiers...) sound as opposed to Digital (CDs, solid state amplifiers...) sound.
Now, there's a subset of this debate over bitrates of audio formats that are on the lower end of the digital quality spectrum. The reality of the situation is that the digital vs. analog issues still have not been resolved. Recently, higher quality digital sound equipment has been entering the consumer market. HDCDs seem to be recognition of the notion that digital CD audio might not have been all that it was cracked up to be.
Do we really want the music industry to settle on a standard that takes us further away from the warmth of analog that serious audiophiles long for?
A lack of an easily discernable difference like that (320 vs. CD quality) doesn't necessarily mean that there is no difference in quality. You have to consider the quality of speakers you're listening through along with a whole host of other factors... Amplifier, soundcard, etc...etc...etc...
.wav file is something I don't want to really fuck with because the .wav file, itself, still isn't up to an analog standard of quality....
The fact is, as soon as a compression algorithm touches a sound, things have been altered in a way that your body _can_ percieve. You might not be able to put your finger on it, or even point your finger at it, but you can bet it's still there.
It's easy to ignore the differences for all practical purposes, but I would prefer not to shift my permanent ($$$) focus to a format that doesn't, at least, go beyond the level of quality that we have with CDs.
I mean, where do you draw the line? Before the musical world began debating which mp3 bitrate was comparable enough to CD quality to be accepted, we had the whole analog vs digital debate. Many people, including myself, still believe that there is a subtle warmth to a sound that comes out of analog equipment that can't be found in most digital equipment. Now, HDCDs are bringing a certain degree of that sound-warmth to consumer digital equipment, but I'm still not sure how much further we have to go... To me, anything less than a CD-Quality
How do you ensure you're getting the real thing? If it's active (you feel effects) and it's on a small piece of paper, it's real; nothing else is so active in such small doses (on hit 100 micrograms). This is no longer true, and this is a very dangerous way to take LSD. There are, at least, 2-3 easily obtainable "research chemicals" which are active in small enough doses to be placed on blotter paper. Additionally, the LD50 (lethal dose in 50% of test subjects) for these chemicals is potentially MUCH lower than that of LSD which has an extremely high LD50 in relation to a normal dose. Sure, you'll be fine if you take one hit.. The problem arises when 40 years of conditioning kick in, telling us that it's ok to take 10 hits of LSD because that's the way it has always been done. Take 10 hits of one of these other chemicals, and it is likely that you will not see tomorrow. DO NOT TRUST PAPER EVER AGAIN. Know your source...period. If you don't know that you can trust your source to be knowledgable enough to verify the presence of TRUE LSD, then never take more than 1 hit. The only safe choices, in this day and age, are the natural ones. Psilocybin Mushrooms and Mescaline containing cacti (peyote, san pedro, etc..)... That's pretty much it. Either one is every bit as safe as LSD in the proper dose-range, and many believe the experiences to be equally rewarding and possibly more gentle on the mind.
I can't wait to get a pair so I can stare at boobs all day long.
These types of agreements are usually very specific. You can still use your skills. You just can't use them to compete directly with your former employer in a specific way. Of course, if you don't want to sign it...I'm sure the hypothetical company would be happy to let you look for another job.
Good analogy, but stuff like this isn't really all that uncommon in the business world. The sport coupe example you gave is a little far fetched, but non-compete agreements are the norm in today's business world.
These types of agreements are common, even, for jobs as seemingly insignificant as a billing clerk at a medical clinic. My wife happens to be a billing clerk for a blossoming emergency medical clinic franchise. The first thing they did after they hired a couple of lawyers to handle the company business is force her to sign a non-compete agreement. In this case and most others, I think, the agreement expires after a year or two.
It's a dangerous path we're treading - where to raise a question immediatley puts you under suspicion of guilt... COMMUNIST! YOU WORK FOR THE KGB, DON'T YOU?
If they waited until Longhorn to break legacy apps, then there would be a large amount of people who stuck with WinXP simply for compatibily's sake. Then we'd still have a ton of worm-infected machines out there acting as spamserves. What good would that do us? We need the WinXP machines that are out there right now to be less vulnerable. If that means breaking legacy apps is required, oh well...