First Doom3 Tourney @ QuakeCon

Rogerpq3 writes "The battleground is set - it's confirmed that the 9th annual QuakeCon 2004 video game festival and tournament at the Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center in Grapevine, Texas on August 12-15 will host the first DOOM 3 deathmatch championship ever. Be there to game, hang out with 5,000 of your closest friends, and compete for $150,000 in cash and prizes in the NVIDIA QuakeCon 2004 Championship Tournaments. Online registration for QuakeCon 2004 has begun at www.quakecon.org, and the event is free to all attendees."

Comments

doom3 release date?

[Chuck Bucket]

so does this tie in with the Doom3 release date, or what? Will these ppl have played D3 deathmatch before then, or will it be sprung upon them there?

CB

Re:doom3 release date?

[strictnein]

if you had RTFA you would know that this is the first time that people will have played Doom3 multiplayer (even the leaked beta didn't have that).

Doom3 is still going to be released after quakecon. This tournament doesn't affect the release date.

Re:doom3 release date?

[Zed2K]

There is no official release date. One has never been announced.

It could be before or it could be after. The fact is no one but Id Software knows for sure, and even they might not know.

Re:doom3 release date?

[NeoFunk]

What? The first time? Man, how can you compete in a deathmatch tournament without first mastering the art of the bunny hop?

Re:doom3 release date?

[strictnein]

The article clearly states that Doom3 will not be released before Quakecon. The official release "date" for Doom3 is Summer.

So, Doom3 in summer (June ~21st - Sept ~21st), after Quakecon (August 12-15), narrows it down. Most people expect a late August release.

Re:doom3 release date?

[Naikrovek]

-1: Wrong.

August 3

Re:doom3 release date?

[travdaddy]

Will these ppl have played D3 deathmatch before then, or will it be sprung upon them there?

It will be sprung upon them... haven't you seen The Wizard?

Re:doom3 release date?

[foidulus]

Well, amazon lists the release date as August 3rd...
As an interesting aside, if you do a search for doom 3 on their main page, one of the "featured links" is a 3d stripper you can talk to
Damn, and me without a wintel computer...

Re:doom3 release date?

[Zed2K]

http://www.doom3.com/

Official Id Software site. Release date:

Coming soon.

Re:doom3 release date?

[Zed2K]

Is Amazon making, producing or distributing the game? No. Whatever they say is a guess. Just like every other retailer.

The official doom 3 site made by Id Software says coming soon. I'd believe the guys actually making the game before a retailer who wants to get a bunch of orders.

Re:doom3 release date?

[droleary]

-1: Wrong . . .August 3

Let's see . . .

Three digit UID? Check

Link to un-Slashdottable site (Slashdot itself!)? Check.

Informative? Check.

Modded offtopic anyway? Check.

Honestly, some people should be flagged as too stupid to ever get mods again.

Re:doom3 release date?

[Anonymous Coward]

Looks like it's before the release date. My guess is that they're not telling anybody that they're going to have to kill anyone that plays it.

Re:doom3 release date?

[lowe0]

Actually, it simply says this will be the first tournament. Not the first chance to play.

Me, I still expect the Aug. 3 date to hold. If Activision weren't planning on it, they'd have smacked EB and Gamestop so hard by now for calling it an official date.

Re:doom3 release date?

[Dizzle]

Yeah. It's so BAD.

Re:doom3 release date?

[tbradshaw]

While this may be the first day that a lot of people play DOOM3 Multiplayer, it definitely won't be the first day that anyone has played DOOM3 Multiplayer.

At QuakeCon in 2003 there was a dedicated DOOM3 deathmatch booth that allowed attendees to play DOOM3 multiplayer. They shuffled attendees through in about 15 minute intervals for three days.

It was kick ass.

Travis "Ash" Bradshaw
Director of Staffing
QuakeCon 2004

Re:doom3 release date?

[strictnein]

It's not confirmed

Sorry, that's just speculation. The Aug 3rd date was first put forward by ebgames (who is always accurate as we know) and then every other retailer jumped on that date.

Re:doom3 release date?

[catch23]

umm. you're wrong. In the article it states:

"With DOOM 3 launching this summer, there won't be anyone who has had time to practice or master the game, and almost any QuakeCon attendee has a chance to walk away with one of the exclusive DOOM 3 prizes."

This would imply that DOOM 3 would not be released before QuakeCon or else people there will have had some DOOM 3 practice before the deathmatch event. Since the QuakeCon date is from August 12-15, this would mean DOOM 3 is set to be released sometime after August 15. The August 3 date was based on another distributor's educated guess. It was not a statement from id Software.

Re:doom3 release date?

[strictnein]

woopie! cookies for you and your brother...

it's not confirmed

So yeah, I probably don't know what I'm talking about.

Correct. Show me the confirmation, wait, there is none. There is wide speculation of August 3rd. So what? It's not fucking confirmed.

I mean come on, living in Austin, there are no game developers here on anything.
I live in Minneapolis! That means I know all the inside secrets of Target, 3M, and Northwest airlines, right?

You are on fire!

Yes!

Re:doom3 release date?

[nizo]

by Naikrovek (667) on Tuesday July 06, @12:26PM (#9622637)

OT, but I have to say, soooooo close to a great user ID number and yet so far :-)

Re:doom3 release date?

[ruiner5000]

Yeah, the gaming scene in Minnesota is gigantic. I'm sure Red McCombs is the leader. I'll stick to the secrets inside UT coeds dorm rooms.

Re:doom3 release date?

[Anonymous Coward]

Having read amdzone it appears that you sometimes do know what you are talking about. It's just that you come across as a 4 year old who is more interested in hype than facts. I say this because your way of defending your postion was to name drop, not address facts.

Re:doom3 release date?

[ViolentGreen]

Some people (including myself) have an issue with people using the one word sentance, "Wrong." The poster comes across as arrogant regardless of the validity of the parent. Perhaps that is why it was modded down.

Re:doom3 release date?

[dicepackage]

I don't trust a site where it has over 70 user reviews from a game that isn't out yet.

Re:doom3 release date?

[ruiner5000]

yeah, big props to you anonymous coward.

Re:doom3 release date?

[DAldredge]

The AC was/is right. You don't respond with facts, you respond with hype.

And please do not mail bomb me again.

Re:doom3 release date?

[Cornflake917]

The article never says that this will be the first time people have played Doom3 multiplayer. It just says that the playing field will be even because people won't have years upon years of perfecting the game (like CS or Q3A). In fact, I think this means that Doom3 has to be released BEFORE QuakeCon.

Re:doom3 release date?

[klasikahl]

Focus on the lack of masters. No one can master a game in a mere 9 days (the time between the launch and Quakecon). Not even your most mother's-basement-living, unkept, Coke-bottles-for-glasses nerd can master a brand new game in 9 days.

I'm going to go with the OFFICIAL launch date of August 3rd, not what some /. people say.

Re:doom3 release date?

[Cornflake917]

I don't think "there won't be anyone who has had time to practice" implies that the game will not be released before the tournament. The phrase "not having time" isn't always meant to be literal. I really "don't have time" to post on slashdot during work, but I do it anyways. People say that don't have time to spend with their children/practice for match/learn how to ski/eat at Red Lobster/etc. You know and I both know that when people say this, it's total bullshit. It's possible that they won't release the game before the tourney. But I think the Aug 3rd was confirmed by some inside sources.

Re:doom3 release date?

[elrusoloco]

Don't reckon there's a -1 Arrogant mod. Offtopic is not at all accurate.

Re:doom3 release date?

[oneiron]

Or perhaps it's because most people are aware that the release date from that article is still questionable.

Re:doom3 release date?

[droleary]

Some people (including myself) have an issue with people using the one word sentance, "Wrong." The poster comes across as arrogant regardless of the validity of the parent. Perhaps that is why it was modded down.

That is still a bad moderation. You'd ding someone because they're honest and straightforward with you? Because they're clear and not hiding behind needlessly flowered words? That's messed up, and it brings to mind a Ted Koppel quote:

Our society finds truth too strong a medicine to digest undiluted. In its purest form, truth is not a polite tap on the shoulder. It is a howling reproach.

Re:doom3 release date?

[hunterx11]

Amazon also briefly listed the release date of Half-Life 2 as December 30, 1969. I know it's easy to get confused when you put "Half-Life 2" and "release date" in the same sentence, but isn't it a little odd considering that time started on January 1, 1970? :)

Re:doom3 release date?

[foidulus]

Actually, a few did play the leaked alpha/beta, although I'm not sure why they proudly attatch their names to the review on a public site when by owning the alpha/beta they have commited a crime....maybe I'm just more paranoid than they are.

Re:doom3 release date?

[mikael]

It's not unknown for a retailer to claim to have a game available before the developer has actually released the product. One programmer I knew, actually saw the title he was currently working on, on sale by a mail-order company. It was rather amusing to call this company up, ask for details on the game, how well it was selling, what the reviews had been like etc.., then place an order only to find out the title had sold like hotcakes, and they were currently out of stock. He was so disappointed. He wanted to see what the game looked like so he could see where he could make improvements.

Re:doom3 release date?

[WuphonsReach]

You'd ding someone because they're honest and straightforward with you?

There's a difference between say "wrong" (which is generally considered to be rude and flamebait) and indicating that the parent post is incorrect and explaining why.

So it's not unreasonable to mod down someone who posts a single line like "Wrong!". Sure, it's truthful, but it really isn't helpful to the rest of the readers.

Re:doom3 release date?

[TheGavster]

Well, you can make some decent assuptions about how the game will play ... its a first-person shooter, with weapons and maps evolved from the previous Doom games, with touches of newer releases like UT2K4. I'd say if you're a high-ranked UT or Quake player, you'd have a better chance at the gold than, say, Counterstrike or Splinter Cell pro.

Re:doom3 release date?

[Anonymous Coward]

haven't you seen the game industry "news publications"? Just look at one of those and tell me what kind of idiot you think wrote it, of course it's all hype and name-dropping with the absolute minimum substance. If he posted a well thought out, patient analysis he'd be an obvious fake.

Re:doom3 release date?

[droleary]

So it's not unreasonable to mod down someone who posts a single line like "Wrong!". Sure, it's truthful, but it really isn't helpful to the rest of the readers.

That's not at all what happened. It wasn't a single line. They gave the date and a link to a previous Slashdot story that backed it up. Are you people not even reading the threads you're responding to and/or modding offtopic?

Re:doom3 release date?

[ildon]

If YOU had read the article you could see that it was (intentionally?) extremely vague. It said it would be the first Doom3 tournament and that no one would have time to "master" the game. I don't know anyone who can master a DM game in a few months much less a few weeks or days. Further, pretty much everyone who went to QuakeCon last year got a chance to preview Doom3 DM (including me).

Re:doom3 release date?

[ruiner5000]

Boy, was I wrong eh? Fools. Doom 3 gold

Which means...

[scifience]

Doom 3 will be out at least a few weeks before QuakeCon.

Re:Which means...

[SphericalCrusher]

No. Did you even read the press release? They said this will be the first time anyone has had the chance to play Doom 3. And that crappy beta leak doesn't count. If it came out a few weeks before Quake Con, don't you think that a lot of people would be playing it before the tournament?

Doom 3's release date is still the same. It'll come out when it's finally finished. That's how idSoftware was with everything else and that's how they will always be. There are actually rumors saying it will come out in August, but no one at id has confirmed it... so we'll never know.

Re:Which means...

[tarius8105]

No...DID YOU READ the press release? Read these below.

"We're having a DOOM 3 party this year, and want to offer our fans the first opportunity to compete in a DOOM 3 tournament," Todd Hollenshead, CEO, id Software said

First Doom 3 Tournament

Yes, you read that correctly. DOOM 3 Deathmatch is coming to QuakeCon 2004, and there has never been a more level playing field. With DOOM 3 launching this summer, there won't be anyone who has had time to practice or master the game,

Look at the phrasing again. "Who has had time", which could mean that when it comes out there maybe only a week time for anyone to play it and thats not enough to master multiplaying.

However....you MAY be correct if you trust NVIDIA over ID Software.

"For gamers, QuakeCon is the most exciting happening of the year, and this year it marks the arrival of DOOM 3 - which is one event we wouldn't miss!" said Dan Vivoli, executive vice president of marketing for NVIDIA

What does it all mean? It means that Doom 3 will be out by the start of QuakeCon or shortly(week or two) before QuakeCon.

Re:Which means...

[SphericalCrusher]

Even if it came out a week before, people will still have plenty of time to play it nonstop -- you know how hardcore gamers are nowadays. It'd make no sense at all. I believe that, possibly, it'll come out a few weeks after QuakeCon... or hell, it may even come out the same day. That'd make some sense... people could buy it from QuakeCon, install it, and run it. Then people who didn't get to attend would be able to play it also.

Re:Which means...

[tarius8105]

you know how hardcore gamers are nowadays.

Yeah I know them, I used to be one. My response is they wont be at QuakeCon because if they're devoting that much time to playing the game to master it, it means they dont have jobs and cant afford the plane ticket, much less the hotel, and etc.

Lets use your original post concept. The people that said about no one having a chance to master it are the QuakeCon people, not ID Software. I believe it will be the first doom 3 tournament, but the release of Doom 3 can be a week or two before QuakeCon or (what I really think) the day QuakeCon starts. Infact the QuakeCon people may think Doom 3 isnt coming out till after the event because Doom 3 hasnt gone gold yet. However, there is still plenty of time for it to go gold and also ship on August 3rd.

Also the first time someone played Doom 3, excluding the crappy beta leak (which you mentioned), was at QuakeCon 2003. Granted it wasnt a tournament.

I'd be first

[Tomahawk]

If I were there, I just know I'd be the really embarrassed guy who gets knocked out first...

T.

Re:I'd be first

[AviLazar]

I would be the guy who gets in the game says "cool" and the screen flashes white as someone with the BFG blasts me to hell and back. "First Kill - .8 seconds"

Re:I'd be first

[SphericalCrusher]

I wouldn't feel too bad man. I've been playing FPSs for more than six years and I'm really awesome at Quake 3. But I know when I go this year... someone is going to make me feel like a n00b and it's really going to hurt my pride. It's happened before and it'll happen again. The best thing is just to try. I know that might sound kind of stupid, because you've heard it from everyone all of your life, but trust me -- it actually works.

I just hope they have some high security punk buster going though, because I don't want to face anyone with cheats. That's probably the only downer to BYOC.

Excellent.

[DrEldarion]

Now id has quite an incentive to not push back the release date.

If......

[theJerk242]

Be there to game, hang out with 5,000 of your closest friends, and compete for $150,000 in cash and prizes in the NVIDIA QuakeCon 2004 Championship Tournaments.

Provided you have a computer that can Doom 3.

Re:If......

[theJerk242]

Provided you have a computer that can Doom 3. * Provided you have a computer that can RUN Doom 3.

Sorry for my crappy grammar. ;)

Re:If......

[EvilJohn]

The Doom3 tournament is played on QuakeCon supplied computers, and they'll be able to run Doom3 without any problem.

John "EvilJohn" Carney
Director of the BYOC
Quakecon 2004

Re:If......

[Yarn]

Less Talk, More Beer.

Kinda appropriate, as yet again I won't be at QuakeCon. Instead I will be in Dublin drinking Guiness.

Have fun EJ

Re:If......

[stuph]

Offtopic, but I have to say, I do like your sig.. :P

Re:If......

[mZam]

Stupid article and its misprint.. Quakecon only allows for 3000 people in the BYOC lan. I would know, as i BARELY made it! (#2886/3000)

Re:Extra packing

[Chuck Bucket]

you haven't been to Texas before I'll assume. Come down to Austin if you want to really see how stale the stereotypes really are. we love it here, just remember, "don't move here".

Peace

CB

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How could they schedule this on the same day ...

[burgburgburg]

as the Duke Nukem Forever Tourney? I've already registered! I've got my tickets!

Life can be so unfair sometimes.

Re:Wha?

[scifience]

id.com is not the website for iD Software. idsoftware.com is.

Re:Wha?

[strictnein]

I thought Doom3 didn't have multiplayer? (Score:2, Informative)

How is an incorrect thought informative? Doom 3 has multiplayer. This has been known for almost a year now.

Re:Wha?

[gl4ss]

coop!=multiplayer..

iirc multiplayer was in it all along, but xbox version being the only one with coop(id, if you hear this: we don't want another 'fuck you' from a games company making the xbox version only one with coop)

Re:Wha?

[DrEldarion]

It has multiplayer deathmatch with, I believe, up to a whopping 4 players.

Only the XBox version has cooperative mode, unfortunately.

Oh, and going to id.com won't help you much. idsoftware.com, on the other hand, is probably what you're looking for.

Re:Wha?

[Grell]

Umm... idsoftware.com that is. Doh.

~G

(just don't want to slashdot whoever owns id.com)

Re:How could they schedule this on the same day ..

[Anonymous Coward]

No shit, I was gonna be there too! Now I'm torn, maybe I can post an Ask Slashdot for advice!

Gaylord owns

[zpapasmurf]

You obviously have never been to a Gaylord hotel if you insist on making fun of the name. Their hotels are some of the largest and niceset on the planet. www.gaylordhotels.com

Re:Gaylord owns

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes but just think a little. "Gay" "Lord". Is it that the man is really happy or he felt like giving a unique name

Re:Gaylord owns

[Anonymous Coward]

What a nice thing to have on your resume...

"So, do you have any references we could call?"
"Yeah, just dial 555-6007 and ask for Gaylord."
"Pass."

Poor Gaylord... He either was the biggest bully in school, or, failing that, the most picked-on kid in the history of man.

Re:Gaylord owns

[Anonymous Coward]

According to baseball-reference.com, he was a Hall of Famer who won 314 games. I think he got past that school shit pretty well.

Re:Gaylord owns

[Anonymous Coward]

Pretty nice closets too...

Re:Gaylord owns

[WeeBull]

Oh COME ON! It's a deliberate joke name, picked purely to generate publicity! And seriously, if your chain is called "Gaylord", would you EVER pick "Palms" as the name of your hotel? Of course you wouldn't!

And if you did, and if you had a recruitment hotline ...

407-586-OWOW

I swear I'm not making this up! Check the links if you don't believe me!

"Ow, ow !" indeed.

(But, as parent correctly predicts - I've never stayed at a Gaylord, or even "been in a Gaylord" for that matter. I did seriously consider staying one night so I could steal some bathrobes for some of my gaylord friends, though ...)

Re:Gaylord owns

[cbreaker]

You fucking moron.

It was PROBABLY someone's last name or something, as in the guy that started the chain of hotels.

It's not the best name to have, but do you HONESTLY think that they would build multi-million dollar *resort* hotels and name them something like Gaylord JUST because they want publicity, albeit BAD publicity? No, hotels don't need to do that.

The hotels are really nice, and I'd stay at one for sure. Of course, I'm not a superficial homophobic dweeb that isn't secure in my masculinity like yourself.

Re:Gaylord owns

[Anonymous Coward]

Have anything to say about the balconies? I hear faggots gets ppoooooshed off them occasionaly.

Re:Gaylord owns

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't let them spoil your fun...Gaylord is a world class asshole who runs one of the most right wing newspapers in the country - the Daily Oklahoman. Memorial Stadium - home of the OU Sooners and named in honor of WWI veterans (some veterans, not sure which) has been renamed the Gaylord Family memorial stadium due to his "donations" to the program. He is the redneck Donald Trump.

This is going to be even bigger...

[Anonymous Coward]

...than the Duke Nukem: Foreverathon being held August 32nd in Nigeria.

Re:This is going to be even bigger...

[Max von H.]

the Duke Nukem: Foreverathon being held August 32nd in Nigeria.

Awww, I thought it was on February 30th! Gotta book my ticket NOW!

Re:Wha?

[Grell]

Cool, thanks for the correction.

Now I gotta start saving for a hardware upgrade.

~G

Re:Wha?

[Giant Ape Skeleton]

(id, if you hear this: we don't want another 'fuck you' from a games company making the xbox version only one with coop)

Dear gl4ss,

Fuck you.

Love, id Software

Re:Wha?

[stratjakt]

No, it's a P2P multiplayer system, and last I read it scaled up to 16 or so.. Higher if ping times/bandwidth allow (ie; on a LAN)

Re:Wha?

[dewke]

When did deathmatch come to mean tons of people?

hang out with 5,000 of your closest friends?

[koi88]

How to choose and make nobody angry...?

Nvidia, ATI

[Anonymous Coward]

What!? Arey they promoting Doom3 multiplayer capabilities? Wasn't Doom3 supposed to be a single-player focused game?

Re:Nvidia, ATI

[Anonymous Coward]

So was Quake 1.

Re:Nvidia, ATI

[Anonymous Coward]

with that in mind, has anyone ever gotten quake 1 to run on windows XP? I tried installing it, but it just opens the command prompt and shuts itself. I WANT IT TO PLAY QUAKE 1 ON XP.

Re:Nvidia, ATI

[Anonymous Coward]

Go download one of the newer source ports or get Winquake or glQuake.

Re:Nvidia, ATI

[Anonymous Coward]

a little bit more difficult to have a multiplayer tournament in a single player game. Single player game tournaments always turn out lame.

Re:Extra packing

[ajlitt]

A common saying here is that, "Austin is the liberal oasis in the conservative desert that is Texas." Where else can a bearded hobo transvestite rank in the top 5 regularly in the mayoral elections?

Re:When i first read this i thought it said...

[Enigma_Man]

Um. Doesn't it?

Re:Since Doom3 won't be released yet...

[gl4ss]

did you just skip over the entire blurb(the article you did skip at least of course)?

**
"We're having a DOOM 3 party this year, and want to offer our fans the first opportunity to compete in a DOOM 3 tournament," Todd Hollenshead, CEO, id Software said. "NVIDIA is putting up the largest QuakeCon prize package ever, and topping it off with DOOM 3 prizes that will have the competitors' adrenaline rushing."
**

and you defintely weren't funny even.

4 player deathmatch

[t0qer]

The original doom was a 4 player deathmatch. Maybe they just wanted to keep it true to the original DM playstyle.

Someone send me to quakecon!

[Cyberhwk]

Please?! I love you all! But only if you send me to quakecon. Its one day before my last day of work anyways so what do I have to lose?! You only lose money and simple things like that! You're beyond all that trust me you only seek true happiness and who's happiness is more important than mine?

Re:Someone send me to quakecon!

[AviLazar]

Dear Trusted Friend,

I am from South Africa, in the war torn country of Zimbabwe. Recently, I have come to the attention that I am in the inheritance of $150,000 Million US dollars. This money was left to me by my father, the great Duke Nuk Em. Due to his untimely demise, probably by his enemies, I am not able to access this money. My mother and I may be doomed to die as our father's enemies are looking for us.
If you would be so kind, please send me $1,000.00 so I may fly to America so I can receive my inheritence at Gaylord hotels in the beautiful country of Texas.

For your kind services I have reserved 25% of my fathers inheritence into an account of your choice.
Please forward me your account information, and I will begin the process.
Please be so kind and keep this secret so my fathers enemies will not kill me.
Your trusted friend,
Akiel em-All

Re:Someone send me to quakecon!

[Cyberhwk]

Duke Nuk'em rules! One of the greats of its time. Oh and I'm disapointed that I never get any email scams like that I mean am I just not that important?! Ehh my bank account usually has a max of $10 in it anyways I don't think I've ever gotten it to $1000

Re:Someone send me to quakecon!

[AviLazar]

My mom's fiancee got a hand written letter with one of those scams. Now how cool is that. He actually asked me about it and I started to laugh :) He has never heard of these scams until then.

Re:Someone send me to quakecon!

[Cyberhwk]

The great part is that it still had typos!!! :-D

Re:Someone send me to quakecon!

[Cyberhwk]

I think you deserve to be modded up more but now people won't see you cause I've been modded down :(

Wait, isn't this Slashdot?

[nulltransfer]

hang out with 5,000 of your closest friends

You mean that I'm the only one here that lives in their parents' basement and is allergic to socializing??

I've been lied to for years!

Re:Wait, isn't this Slashdot?

[Roofus]

You mean that I'm the only one here that lives in their parents' basement and is allergic to socializing??

What they really meant was "Bring 5000 of your favorite Slashdot IDs"

When you get the invite, just remember to add your buddy #15591!

Re:Wait, isn't this Slashdot?

[Stevyn]

I wouldn't say allergic, I come out of the house all the time. Alright, so it does coincide when gentoo is compiling and I'm out of caffine and natalie portman is in a movie playing that I can't download, but I do get out of the house!

Re:Wait, isn't this Slashdot?

[Anonymous Coward]

Anything to show off your low id, eh?

Re:Wait, isn't this Slashdot?

[Roofus]

Anything to show off your low id, eh?

Well, I don't seem to be able to moderate with it anymore, so what else should I do with it?

Re:BEST BUY ATE MY BALLS!

[Anonymous Coward]

Lack of formatting - check
Incoherent ranting - check
Odd use of caps - check
Totally unrealted to topic at hand - check

Actually that sounds like the average Slashdot article write-up :P

Leaked beta?

[Raztus]

From their site: "DOOM 3 Deathmatch is coming to QuakeCon 2004, and there has never been a more level playing field. With DOOM 3 launching this summer, there won't be anyone who has had time to practice or master the game..."

What about the leaked betas out there? I havn't spent the time to download them and see if they're real, but there's two downloads of Doom III Beta 2 on suprnova.org. I'm willing to bet that, if those are real, some planning to attend this event are already practicing.

Re:Leaked beta?

[stratjakt]

Practice what?

It's the same as any other FPS with snazzier graphics. Practicing against ID's braindead AI bots isn't going to help you against real humans.

Re:Leaked beta?

[Domini]

Practice the physics perhaps? For me freestyling helped in Quake 3... granted the Q3A bots are braindead, but when I stared playing Q3A they were challenging. -shrug- At least they help you improve your aim... (a bit)

(Last night I got my highest average rail accuracy againt a real (but weaker) opponent... 48% -grin-)

Re:Wha?

[no reason to be here]

IIRC, the leaked beta does/did not have multiplayer.

Yes, but Austin is quite aways away ...

[burgburgburg]

from Grapevine. We embrace all of the Texas stereotypes here in Grapevine. In fact, it's the law.

Yee-ha!

As a fellow Texan, (and Austinite)

[el_munkie]

That crap pisses me off, too. The vast majority of Texans are nothing like what people expect. In fact, Texas seems depressingly like neighboring states sometimes. Our rural people are just like rural people throughout the south and midwest, and our city-dwellers and suburbanites would be indistinguishable from people from similar environments in other states. I'm going ot California in a week, and if I get asked one more time where my horse is, I have a long list of You-elected-Arnold-Schwartzenegger-Governor quips to fire back with.

Does it annoy you that Bush is labeled a Texan, when he is a well-documented Connecticut-born yankee carpetbagger?

Re:As a fellow Texan, (and Austinite)

[Chuck Bucket]

I too am annoyed by the same. Texas is a big state, we have many different regions so to stereotype us all as cowboys is the same as stereotyping all Californias as Jeff Spicoli surfers, "Whoa dude!"

I do like going to resturants/bars in CA and not having any smoking however...

CDB

Will they be providing

[teamhasnoi]

large tanks of liquid Nitrogen, or will I have to bring mine from home?

My Cray is a thirsty beast.

Re:Wha?

[strictnein]

Quake

The QuakeWorld upgrade supported up to 64 players (I believe).

Finally

[Bruha]

I live 5 miles from that resort!

I shall bring my AMD 64 Godness and pawn all r3wr!

Re:Finally

[Anonymous Coward]

lucky bastard

A look at Texas for the (obviously) non-Texan

[ajservo]

Yes, and JR's ranch is nearby as well. idiot...
The last time I wore a cowboy hat and boots was in OKLAHOMA when I was in boy scouts.

Actually, if you want a clear vision of what grapevine looks like...

Imagine... A giant, garish discount mall, DFW airport, multitudes of ugly car dealerships and chain restaurants, a VERY dirty Cinemark theater, oh, and Gamestop.com's shipping warehouse...

And no, if you stay at the Gaylord, you won't get your copy of Doom3 any faster... Gamestop's warehouse does NOT accept visitors.

But, you can visit Southfork Ranch, as seen on Dallas. It's in lovely dirt field filled Parker, TX. Just exit I-75 at Parker Rd. in Plano and head east. It's about 20 minutes off the highway. In the middle of nothing. Enjoy.

I'd like to know where Texas of all states picked up this stupid ass connotation of cowboys. You're just as rarely and as likely to see someone matching this description in NM, NV, UT or CO than TX.

But if you truly want me to break tradition, I'll be the one waiting outside of DFW airport for you in a soccer jersey and a cricket bat. :)

Re:A look at Texas for the (obviously) non-Texan

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey! I live in Grapevine! It ain't that bad. Poverty line starts at 30K here! h0h0h0, poor people begone!

Re:A look at Texas for the (obviously) non-Texan

[Anonymous Coward]

"But if you truly want me to break tradition, I'll be the one waiting outside of DFW airport for you in a soccer jersey and a cricket bat. :)"

Funny, I assume that to be a dig at the English - in a friendy way of course. However we don't have soccer jersey's, we have football shirts :-)

I'd also assume you want the cricket bat for some form of hooliganism. Cricket bat's are rubbish for hitting people with - too heavy to be manuverable. Football holigans haven't got the patience to play criket anyway, it takes days and so is pretty difficult to get yourself really worked up about. Not that holiganism really was based on football anyway, that was just an excuse for a fight.

Anyhow a football hooligan would be better off with a beer bottle (brilliant brawling weapons them), a baseball bat (yup, you really can do some real damage with one of them - weighted superbly and you can spin it and use the handle too). Unfortunatley not too patriotic.

However a top class football holigan would arrive with a short length of cycle chain or similar. You can flail about with one of them if in danger of being swarmed, or if you're upclose and personal wrap 'em around your fist and you can really pack a punch.

Hmm, I must remember - violence is only alright when simulated in the media or games... Fun to entertain the notion tho ;-)

P.S. I've never been involved in hooliganism. A couple of pitched battles when the kids from our highschool fought the kids from the next one, but that was childish fun. Although there was a bicycle chain involved once - ouch! I seem to remember that was the last one, not because the relaveant autorities could stop it happening but because noone really wanted to run the risk of being 'chained' in the face. There always has to be someone to take things to far and ruin the fun for everyone!

Re:A look at Texas for the (obviously) non-Texan

[Zhe Mappel]

Imagine... A giant, garish discount mall, DFW airport, multitudes of ugly car dealerships and chain restaurants, a VERY dirty Cinemark theater, oh, and Gamestop.com's shipping warehouse...

Imagine? It won't be hard. You've just described virtually every medium-sized city in the United States.

If you do any traveling by car, you see how much cookie-cutter design is obliterating local flavor. Each place looks like the last place, which looks like the next place. One glance at photos of the U.S. from even forty years ago shows this was not always the case; we're being assimilated.

$150,000 is the minimum requirements!

[JohnFromCanada]

If you win the competition and the $150,000.00 you could then buy a computer for yourself that will be able to run Doom 3, and you would still have just enough money left over to order yourself the game.

Re:$150,000 is the minimum requirements!

[British]

Think of all the sticks of deoderant you could buy!

Seriously, Right Guard or Mennen should be doing sponsorships at these lan parties, given the relative levels of personal hygene at LAN parties and the like.

Re:$150,000 is the minimum requirements!

[Anonymous Coward]

The unpolished alpha played slow, but acceptable on my athlon 1.4 with a speedy FX 5200 card.

Re:$150,000 is the minimum requirements!

[damiam]

That joke was funny, in 2001. Nowadays a $500 computer could run Doom 3 just fine.

still doing DM?

[timts]

well, I'd rather play team based CS or ONS on UT2004. DM gets me so bored.

Re:still doing DM?

[Da VinMan]

It's a brain chemistry thing.

Re:still doing DM?

[timts]

it's more of a finger chemistry thing instead of brain chemistry, IMHO.
btw, I dont mean to make this one flamebait, just after so many years of playing FPS, tired of the simple DM mode, including team DM and those last man standing stuff.
vehicle/turret manipulation and team work (flag, ball game, onslaught) create a lot more gameplay than simplying DM
but I have to admit some time it's still 1 vs 1 in many of those new game types. it's still very different to die so that others can get to one powernode to gain the ground, than simply increase frag by 1

Hah!

[Obiwan Kenobi]

Online registration for QuakeCon 2004 has begun at www.quakecon.org, and the event is free to all attendees.

No, no. Online registration began back on April 14th, 2004. It was full in about a day.

However, there is a waiting list. When you get there there will be two huge lines snaking around the walls. The smaller line is for those who've pre-registered, while the other snakes around entire second floor of the place, each player hoping for a spot in the grand ballroom.

For those who haven't registered and wish to attend, be sure to get there EARLY. And I mean 5AM or earlier if you wish to get in.

Good thing I got registered 30 minutes after it began...

Re:Hah!

[tbradshaw]

We have never turned away anyone from the BYOC at any QuakeCon.

Travis "Ash" Bradshaw
Director of Staffing
QuakeCon 2004

Re:Hah!

[Schnapple]

I think you're mixing up the BYOC LAN Party aspect of Quake and the rest of it. True, there's a limited number of BYOC spots and it's possible to never get in, but anyone can come to the rest of the convention - all you have to do is register.

YMCA

[sinnfeiner1916]

you mean the YMCA?

Re:But what if...

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybe you'll have time to learn that vBulletin tags are unsupported on Slashdot...

Re:Extra packing

[operagost]

I think you meant to say, "Austin is the left-wing radical turd floating in the refreshing conservative pool that is Texas."

$SLASHDOT_STORY

[Anonymous Coward]

Posted by CmdrTaco on Tuesday July 06, @12:03PM
from the good-bad-I'm-the-guy-with-the-gun dept.

Advertising Committe writes "The battleground is set - it's confirmed that the 9th annual QuakeCon 2004 video game festival and tournament at the Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center in Grapevine, Texas on August 12-15 will host the first DOOM 3 deathmatch championship ever. Be there to game, hang out with 5,000 of your closest friends, and compete for $150,000 in cash and prizes in the NVIDIA QuakeCon 2004 Championship Tournaments. Online registration for QuakeCon 2004 has begun at www.quakecon.org, and the event is free to all attendees."

About 1600 on list

[charnov]

looks like there is about 1600 people on the waiting list.

oh yay

[Marsala]

Let's hold a huge convention featuring cash prize tournaments based on a piece of software that is testing new video card technology, has taken years to design and build, is probably going to be so massive that we'll need to ship it on DVDs, and won't even have been on the shelves for two weeks.

And just to make sure all of our eggs in one basket, let's drop support for any of the team-based competition games set in WWII even if they do seem to be kind of popular right now.

Awesome.

Hats off to iD's Doom3 QA team... ya'll must really have your stuff together to make them feel comfortable enough to do something like this.

:)

Re:oh yay

[PFactor]

iD Software doesn't follow - it leads. For proof of this statement, consult this handy list:

first popular 3d-ish fps shooter: Wolfenstein
first popular shareware fps: Doom
first fully 3d popular game: Quake
first programmer to fund a rocket launch: John Carmack.

Re:oh yay

[AzraelKans]

Let's hold a huge convention featuring cash prize tournaments based on a piece of software that is testing new video card technology, has taken years to design and build, is probably going to be so massive that we'll need to ship it on DVDs, and won't even have been on the shelves for two weeks. So..? I know gamers that beat games like doom3 in 2 days. (48 hours straight) 2 weeks of online training should be more than enough for these guys. And just to make sure all of our eggs in one basket, let's drop support for any of the team-based competition games set in WWII even if they do seem to be kind of popular right now. Just make a list of any complaints you may have about doom 3 gameplay, put it in a basquet and set it on fire. Modding for doom 3 is easy as hell in less than a week. I predict we are going to have at least 10 considerable gameplay mods (hundreds of small ones) within a month or two we are going to have complete makeover gameplay mods. (by then someone is going to start playing a co-op alpha.) Expect complete game overhauls to start hitting in 6 months. I wouldnt worry about gameplay. Besides who said the only gameplay mode is going to be deathmatch? I expect team deathmatch and CTF (and just about all the modes available in quake 3 original) to be available from start as well. However I dont think they are going to go over the 4 player limit.

Re:oh yay

[MindStalker]

And just to make sure all of our eggs in one basket, let's drop support for any of the team-based competition games set in WWII even if they do seem to be kind of popular right now.

Umm this is "QuakeCon" the BYOC section can have any game the tournaments generally only have select ID games, last year they did include RTCW, but this year its just Quake3 and Doom3. Thats their call really, you arn't paying to go. And honestly I really would think it would be selling out to invclude some popular WWII game for attendance.

Re:oh yay

[88NoSoup4U88]

The multiplayer component (or at least the maps) were made by Splashdamage, the same developers as the free RTCW game, Enemy Territory.

So it isn't totally 'id only' games they will be playing ; Hell, the multiplayer bliss that ET delivered, will be overshadowed by this MP experience ; Im betting my socks ;)

Re:oh yay

[antic]

first programmer to try a real-life rocket jump? John Carmack? you wimp!

Re:oh yay

[Anonymous Coward]

Hah, so you're fired up a little bit that a sci-fi game set in the future doesn't have support for WW2 squad-based multiplayer?

Re:oh yay

[ildon]

Hey look, it's a bitter RTCW player! ;)

Seriously though, I too am disappointed they won't be having a RTCW or ET tourney.

Re:oh yay

[ildon]

Sup NoSoup!

airwick please

[eekygeeky]

egad- can you imagine how that hotel is going to smell? and has Mountain Dew been piped in or are they using communal vats? carl

Re:Extra packing

[Anonymous Coward]

A pool consisting of the acidic hatrid that is conservatism, yes.

Re:The venue

[the_raptor]

If I had mod points I would mod you (-1: Grow the Fuck up).

HA HA!

[Anonymous Coward]

Forgot to give props to GNAA...

I think they forgot one small thing...

[supmylO]

"hang out with 5,000 of your closest friends?" I've never heard of these 'friend' things... This is Slashdot right?

Re:I think they forgot one small thing...

[dzym]

I don't believe the QuakeCon page. If they're my friends then what are their slashdot ids?

Re:I think they forgot one small thing...

[wikthemighty]

I don't know about you, but my Slashdot user page has a friends tab...

nice prize...

[mobiux]

would make a nice down payment on nvidia's new sli video setup

Re:Wha?

[SphericalCrusher]

You know how idSoftware is. They like to surprise the world. Maybe they just meant that it won't have online multiplayer but has the ability to LAN? That's what the other Dooms have anyhow.

relatively speaking, of course...

[Anonymous Coward]

"friends" is Human for "people"

Hrm...

[strAtEdgE]

If fast paced, high adrenaline 1on1 gaming within id developed games can make a comeback... then I'll have to try to make one too.

Re:Hrm...

[scoser]

fast paced, high adrenaline, 1on1

Wow! That sounds a lot like that "sex" thing I've been hearing about. Unfortunately, most gamers keep saying that the release date for "sex" keeps getting pushed back.

Re:Wha?

[Anonymous Coward]

Uhm that's because it used an unroutable protocol back in the 80's and early 90's. You still think they use IPX in those games? I seriously doubt it.

NVidia-sponsored...

[nulltransfer]

NVIDIA Corporation, the worldwide leader in graphics processing, is putting up a combined purse of $150,000 in cash and prizes for the three QuakeCon tournaments.

This is going to be a great way for NVidia to show off their latest video card playing Doom3. But what would be better is if they have some footage of Doom3 being played on a Linux machine with an NVidia card.

(I recall Doom3 is going to be released natively for Linux, although without official support?)

Maybe it would help push ATI to develop better Linux drivers!

Re:NVidia-sponsored...

[TheAdventurer]

I don't see why they should be pushed to do anything. NVidia is a company, and thus is interested in making money. There's no money in Linux gaming technology because doing things for free (er..Open Source Development) is not a good business model.

Re:NVidia-sponsored...

[tjwhaynes]

I don't see why they should be pushed to do anything. NVidia is a company, and thus is interested in making money. There's no money in Linux gaming technology because doing things for free (er..Open Source Development) is not a good business model.

But NVIDIA has plenty of incentive to provide good drivers for Linux machines - a significant chunk of the movie industry uses Linux workstations with NVIDIA cards for heavy duty 3d work. That is a market rich with capital potential. ATi hasn't managed to stabilize its Linux drivers to the same level and is lagging behind in Linux installations as a result. Having Doom3 demonstrated on linux desktops with NVIDIA cards might actually be a good demonstration of the latest technology.

Cheers,
Toby Haynes

Re:NVidia-sponsored...

[elrusoloco]

Wait, you're saying that a market that exists because of FREE software is rich with capital potential? Can you back up that "significant chunk" statement? What percentage of the workstations in the "movie industry" (a very vague entity) are running Linux? My limited knowlege would lead me to believe Macs are the dominant player in that market.

Re:Extra packing

[ruiner5000]

Yeah, don't move here, but do come to the Texas Gaming Festival here July 23rd-25th for a CPL and Quakecon warmpup. Then you can go to Dallas for TXGF where they will have Doom 3 deathmatch August 7th-8th just before Quakecon.

Whoa.. just like...

[asdfasdfasdfasdf]

Man, this is just like the movie the wizard. Remember? Fred Savage's autistic younger brother was like the first person ever to play Super Mario Bros. 3? And he had to play it to win the competition. Nice.

What a great marketing ploy, I couldn't wait to get that game after that uh, cool, movie.

I'm shameless, I know. I'll even admit that I had a crush on that girl at the time. Which isn't as creepy as it sounds, I was like 13 or so.

Re:Whoa.. just like...

[mad mad ninja]

I wonder if there will be a giant screen, and one of the players will use a nintendo powerglove modded to work on PC. That would be totaly sweet, and when I say totaly sweet, I mean really weird.

Re:Whoa.. just like...

[rush22]

Yeah I remember how ridiculous it was that he found the warp whistle. Yeah right he found it on his first try.

Re:Whoa.. just like...

[Anonymous Coward]

I remembered that movie too, so dont worry you are not that messed up, however I had no crush for that girl, so you are sick.

In addition you are posting in slashdot, so you are hopeless

Re:Whoa.. just like...

[telstar]

"I'm shameless, I know. I'll even admit that I had a crush on that girl at the time."

• If you're going to have a crush on a girl acting with Fred Savage you've gotta go with
• Winnie Cooper

Re:Whoa.. just like...

[Cyno01]

No, it'll be more like the Last Starfighter. The winner gets sent to phobos courtesy of Armadillo Aerospace with only a pistol at first...

Re:Wha?

[dewke]

I guess I should have put tags in my post. I know when it happened chronologically, I was just commenting that having huge DM games aren't necessarily fun, yet the industry is stuck on more people.

no wolfenstein??

[SethJohnson]

Damn. Looks like they got rid of the RTCW tournament they've held the past two years. That was my favorite spectator event at QuakeCon. Looks like they're thin on sponsors this year. Nvidia is the only one I saw listed in addition to iD, of course. Hopefully, Nvidia will still come through with the free beer at the Mister Sinus Theater screening party like they did last year. That ruled.

Contest to rename the venue?

[IronChefMorimoto]

Which 133t h4x0r will be the first to rename the QuakeCon venue to the "GHEYLORD Convention Center" and win the free copy of D00|\/| 3?

IronChefMorimoto

Security?

[blanks]

What type of security do you think they will have here? I am sure they do not want this leaked, but with 5000 people to watch over, someone getting a copy seems possiable... How hard would it be to do one of the following,

Steal a hard disk with quake 3 installed (one of the player pc's)

Find a install cd someplace (breaking into rooms, garbage)

hooking up a usb/firewire device to the system and copy it over.

copy from pc to internet.

I would enjoy being there just to test to see how well they would be handling these security issues, but I dont think I need to go to jail just yet.

Re:Security?

[AzraelKans]

What type of security do you think they will have here? I am sure they do not want this leaked Er... Doom 3, will already be in stores by then, (august 3rd is the release date) otherwise this competition wouldnt be possible.

Re:Security?

[88NoSoup4U88]

"Steal a hard disk with quake 3 installed (one of the player pc's)"

You are really going for the goodies uh :P

Re:Security?

[stoicmt]

At the CPL events, which are very similar to QuakeCon, they usually have a few unreleased games on 10-20 demo machines there, most recently UT2k3/4 at the last few events. When leaks of the early versions of UT2k3 surfaced, Intel and NVidia (who ran the exhibition booths) started standing people around their show comps, watching the players like hawks. The leaks became a bit less widespread. Given that Doom 3 is what id has been solely working on for, oh, the last 6 years or so, I think that their security will be tight as a drum.

Of course, it'd be much harder for them to keep tabs on their own volunteer staff, considering that during event setup, they have easy access to all the tourney machines, all the exhibition machines, and certainly easier access to the distribution media for the game...

Re:Let me be the first to announce...

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey dude, you better go drink another gallon of water so you can get ready to piss on all those other campfires that are going to be going on in the near future.

Oh, and you forgot to bash Linux!

Re:Wha?

[Anonymous Coward]

iirc multiplayer was in it all along, but xbox version being the only one with coop(id, if you hear this: we don't want another 'fuck you' from a games company making the xbox version only one with coop)

As has been spelt out far more times than should ever have been necessary:

This is not a case of id taking the coop out of the PC version to screw PC users over.

This is a case of the separate company responsible for the XBox port adding coop to their port which is not present in any version written by id themselves.

If I gave you $100, and then my wife gave someone else $200, would you accuse me of stealing $100 from you? No? Then don't complain about XBox owners getting an extra multiplayer option. Their version's going to have crappy controls and emasculated graphics anyway.

Smells fishy

[James Turpin]

If this is the first time anybody has played a Quake 3 deathmatch, then how did they debug the deathmatch mode? Are they just sending an untested executable to the tournament?

And if somebody has tested it, are they barred from the tournament? I would hate to play deathmatch tournament against the programmers and the in-house game testers when I haven't ever played the game myself. That would not be a fair game. Knowledge of weapons properties, familiarity with the map, and general game play familiarity are all important factors.

I have seen map familiarity become an overwhelming factor in capture-the-flag battles between opposing clans. When the second set of counter-strike maps were released, [USC] (or was it [UCLA]?) practiced on them before inviting [CIT] to play on their server. [CIT] got wasted for a couple hours before they adapted. Then [CIT] creamed them as usual. (Yes, these 'clans' are universities.)

Re:Smells fishy

[ebob9]

If this is the first time anyone has played Quake 3 Deathmatch, then I've somehow hit a timewarp..

In which case I need to go buy some Tickets.

Re:Smells fishy

[James Turpin]

Woops, I meant Doom 3. Gotta watch those typos.

Factual error:

[Anonymous Coward]

That one's at Comdex.

Re:The venue

[the_raptor]

How in the hell was my previous comment a troll? I was responding to a troll. Get a clue whoever did that moderation.

Re:Wha?

[Anonymous Coward]

I think you're selling short the monumental effort that it takes to get any game to actually ship. Nope, they're never perfect and no there's always features that would improve the game. There is many reasons for that but rather than blasting those poor hardworking developers for these shortfallings (so long as they don't detract seriously from the enjoyment to be had - Driv3r???) you could perhaps encourace them, offer constuctive criticism and then maybe they'll do a sequel with all the bells and whistles you want.

Trust me, games companies don't ever say 'fuck you' to their customers. Nearly all of us in the games industry know well that we could work less hours for more money with less stress in almost any other IT sector. The reason we don't is because we love games and gaming and want to push the enjoyment still further.

I assume you're refering to a specific game or games where XBox was the only skew with coop multiplayer, I've no idea which game(s) tho.

My guess would be that in these instances though the developers intended to bring the same functionality across all platforms but for technical reasons were unable. Those techincal reasons could of course simply be meeting deadlines and not having time to fix all the bugs.

Re:Wha?

[gl4ss]

so fucking what? the end product is the same: xbox version gets coop but the pc version doesn't.

should I as a consumer care about the politics or realities behind why that happens? ID has it's hands on the pc version, it's not like it would be impossible for them to add it right away.

Re:Wha?

[gl4ss]

I was referring to Halo.

the thing that made it's xbox version actually fun was the coop.. so when it finally shipped for pc it majorly sucked that it wasn't included, made all the waiting kinda worthless.

hmm..

[waspleg]

you're socializing... probably with most of the people who will show up

what does irony taste like?

and now for a little OT question, why can't these tournaments be run remotely so those of us without time or money to travel there can play, how about home vs away (lan/public) matches? i know that people don't trust anyone in the day of OGC but still there needs to be a middle ground

Re:Wha?

[Anonymous Coward]

Right, it's not impossible, and some modder will probably hack in co-op within the first couple weeks.

Re:Wha?

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, they were going to use a P2P battle.net like system with 4 players. They dropped it because it didn't work or something and are back to the tried and true server/client method. Out of the box is still 4 players, but the game ships with all the mod tools, so you can fix that right away if you want.

I'd hate to use a battle.net system for multiplayer in a FPS. I just want to hop in and have some fun and not have to wait for everyone to get ready and agree on game rules while a couple morons spam "GO GO GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

Re:Wha?

[AzraelKans]

So? the xbox version doesnt have modding abilities, meaning you will be able to play doom3 and then all mods made for it for free, while xbox is going to be stuck with the same game.

Besides, co-op will be added later in a mod. like you didnt knew.

Look where it's being held

[alephnull42]

at the Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center in Grapevine

BWAAAAHAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Ahem, sorry about that.

seta cg_bobup "0";

[Ayanami Rei]

seta cg_bobroll "0"
seta cg_bobpitch "0"
map ubercoolsecretdm

Stealing...

[Anonymous Coward]

Steal a hard disk with quake 3 installed (one of the player pc's)

I would think ID Software gave out Quake3 CD's to be used as drink coasters at that Gaylord hotel. Isn't that like stealing a balloon on "Free Balloon Day!" ?

If ID Software has a mod to use the Quake3 engine with the Doom3 maps and with transparent network compatibility with the Doom3 engine then I think I would win the competition's "fast" prize (John Carmack's old broken ferari), win the additional US $150,000.00 prize, and win all the collector's editions boxes of Doom3. !Never underestimate a geek with responsive gameplay and 1337 framerate over the recent slow and beautiful turd of game what is embodied as Doom3.

Idiot.

[Anonymous Coward]

Never speak continue speaking of any shadow of the name Fred Savage. That names haunts me to this day and I have forced myself to endure countless hours of Goatse.cx medication to remove all the Wonder Years daymares from my body. I have almost attained Nirvana, but when some idiot tries to speak of some woman whore linked to Fred Savage, like Winnie from Wonder Years, I want to take a screwdriver and shove it up your goddam nose and turn it clockwise hoping your sinus cavit will turn with it.

Even if you did or didn't have a crush on her; let it be known whenever you speak about any of Fred Savage's whores, god kills a goatse troll. For the love of goatse.cx, please don't speak of Fred Savage or his whores. And if you ever see Fred Savage on the street, do us tortured children a favor and pop the tires on his goddam man-whore-mobile because anyone who hires Fred Savage is obviously hired him to get some of Fred Savage's asshole.

Re:Extra packing

[Chuck Bucket]

It's funny cause it's true. I just saw Leslie downtown two weeks ago actually when I was on 6th meeting a pal at Lovejoys.

CBwef

Fuck you.

[Anonymous Coward]

Fuck you and the goddam powerglove you shove up your ass.

shivvers...

[Anonymous Coward]

Your father...is...George Broussard... puh.puh.pwaaahaahhhaaahahahah!

I always thought George had to have been an white nigger. Goddam he's such a fat stupid 'tard. Must be a shame he's related to you, but at-least the missing link is found that 3DRealms is the cause everyone received thos African beggars with inheritance problems.

On a second note, isn't George Brousard related to Theo The Ratd?

That's nothing...

[Anonymous Coward]

John's other ploys are even more clever. Like there is this one ploy, where John gets the yearly Environmentalist Award at ArtistCon where he buys hundreds of cases of Jag and writes them off as landfill waste reclamation because obviously he prevented them from being thrown into the landfills.

I hear ArtistCon 2004 is being held in San Quentin.

Doom3 released August 3rd -

[Anonymous Coward]

I try to keep up to date on whats going on at dooom3planet.com. Several Large distributors have made statements like "Release date confirmed" concerncing the rumored date of August 3rd. Wal-mart, Best But, EB, Gamespot, all claim dates of about August 3-5th.
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There is also a clock, coutning down the days to doom3 on the main page of doom3planet.com, the mods over there are always very cautius about release date rumors, So for them to post display somthing like gives it more merit than any other rumor i have seen.
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I couldnt imagine playing a tournamet for a game that no one has ever played. When ID says things like , level playing field, no one has mastered it. They mean that no one will have 100+ hours of gameplay under them, But it will take competitors atleast a week or so to get familiar with wepons, weapon change times, SOME knowledge of the maps. Or it will be a bunch of people running around learning what the buttons do and features are. It will be a tournament of "Who can learn a game the fastest". IMO D3 will be released in early August and people will have a couple weeks to play around with the game before QC.

*sniff*sniff...I smell a f-f-f-faggot's asshole!

[Anonymous Coward]

Hot Hemrhoids, Batman!

The faggtot, cbreaker, wants to libel that Gay == Homosexual! So let's bring out the RedNeck Rebels Nigger Fag song...

All you faggots listen now...
I'm gonna show you how...
To hide your chocolate-cherry when the niggers are on the prowl...

The niggers can be white...
'baggy clothes all fallen down...
because they believe in skin-equity --
primal equal-access to fudge-town.

Nowhere in said verse did it refer to Homosexuals as being Gay; neither Gay's being homosexual. You see, faggot, cbreaker, the word "Gay" is apparrently an appointed name of a self-styled person that incorporated the definitive "gay" or "happy" into their name. But delving into literature, a gay lord is not a Gaylord and neither is Gaylord a lord.

Just go get your ass back on the rags in San Francysquie; cbreaker.

HolyShit, Fatman! I found a way into QuakeCon!

[Anonymous Coward]

And if you did, and if you had a recruitment hotline [gaylordhotels.com] ...

I need to get hired by Gaylord! It's got a possible US $150,000.00 bonus, but I think they'll fire me after I collect the bonus... Oh how I would love to pickup trash at QuaceCon...just don't make me clean the female bathrooms...'cause I know that's where all the transvestite geeks will be lingering... oh God no!!!

Re:Wha?

[88NoSoup4U88]

Never read that Co-op would be excluded from the PC version : any evidence to confirm that statement ?

Bawls

[obsid1an]

Apparently you have never been to Quakecon. We don't drink that wussy mountain dew. It's all about the Bawls.

Fuck you too!

[Anonymous Coward]

I hate you and that goddam Winnie Cooper.

Have you seen that broad's hairy arms and that Jay Leno chin, or those loooooooosers she hangs her tits with?

She'd make a better greased-up yoda doll than a cultural icon ERmm oh wait that's redundant.

Re:NVidia-sponsored... Linux in Hollywood

[tjwhaynes]

You want quotes?

Although Linux has yet to achieve wide popularity in the computer game world ("Will Linux Be Computer Games' Dark Horse OS?" Computer, Dec. 2001, pp. 161-162), it is making rapid progress toward becoming the dominant operating system in the other major entertainment arena: motion pictures. Name a motion picture from the past year or two that featured stunning animation or dazzling special effects, and chances are the film's producers used Linux-based computers to splash those graphics on the big screen.

"In short, the big news in Hollywood about Linux is it is no longer big news. Linux has won not only renderfarm servers, but the artist desktops of the top studios. It's hard to find a large studio that does not rely upon Linux as its primary animation and special effects OS, and many smaller film studios have adopted Linux, too...

"You hear a lot about Linux not being ready to work on desktops," said HP's Jeff Wood, director of product marketing for personal workstations. "Well, here we have the perfect example of how Linux is more than ready for the desktop -- hundreds of animators successfully used Linux to create a film right from their desktops."

You want to links? You've got links:

• Linux in Hollywood: A Star Is Born
• Computer and Graphics World
• Sinbad Hears Linux's Siren Song
• TechNewsWorld: Linux in Hollywood

You want apps? You got've apps:

1. NVidia Gelato (available FIRST for Linux - Windows XP coming soon)
2. Maya
3. Tremor
4. Shake
5. Houdini
6. Renderman
7. Cinepaint

You want companies? You've got companies:

1. Pixar (although Steve Jobs is moving them to Macs)
2. ILM
3. Weta Digital
4. Dreamworks

Linux is the pre-eminent renderfarm for Hollywood and is the dominant workstation for artists. But don't trust me - there are plenty of links out there on the web.

Cheers,
Toby Haynes

Re:NVidia-sponsored... Linux in Hollywood

[elrusoloco]

......../me shuts up and slinks away with tail between legs.

Your research is thorough and convincing - you have succeeded in changing my opinion on this matter. Thank you.

Re:It don't matter

[OldSchoolNapster]

Actually Stepford Wives is more Park Cities, about 40 minutes away, inside of Dallas around Southern Methodist University. It has the only (or first?) school system in nation that avoided desegregation by simply declining federal money. More to the point, the houses and the women are all picturesque. The rest of the area is more down to earth Texan. The high standard of living is mostly a product of the tech industry's good wages. hooray! Now ask yourself if a geek could stand a Stepford Wife, or if a Stepford Wife would stand a geek.

Re:NVidia-sponsored... Linux in Hollywood

[Anonymous Coward]

But isn't all of that on Windows too? What does Linux actually offer over and above Windows or Mac? (other than being Free, and being your fave).

Re:Wha?

[Zhe Mappel]

up to a whopping 4 players.

More can be less in DM, actually, unless the map is large enough to support huge numbers. Most maps aren't. So that means there isn't enough ammo or armor, spamming and camping predominate, and the whole thing becomes the frag equivalent of a circle jerk.

If Doom 3 uses shadows effectively, we could be seeing an evolution in DM.

Re:Let me be the first to announce...

[Domini]

That may be true, but for people who appreciate technically superior rendering, there is nothing near to Doom 3 yet. Prettier, yes, but not better.

Insofar gameplay, yes, Farcry is awesome. But I still like the 'feel' of Quake 3 above much newer games. Somehow Id's games have laways felt 'solid' When you are in the game it feels as if the walls are more solid (barring level design mistakes). In all the other games (Farcry included to a lesser degree) it feels as if I'm walking on a paper-thing polygon and walls (and other objects) are made of stretched plastic film.

I'll reserve judgement until I play the final release.

Re:Wha?

[Anonymous Coward]

32 at most, definitely not 64. At least I've never seen a server that would take 64.

Re:NVidia-sponsored... Linux in Hollywood

[Anonymous Coward]

It offers far better performance.

When you are dealing in a company that has hundreds and hundreds of computers being used to render 3D graphics and other special effects, you want the quickest possible solution. The clustering performance and flexability of GNU/Linux systems really is impressive. Windows has a ton of overhead just booting their operating system, whereas GNU/Linux PCs being used in clusters to render the graphics put every ounce of power straight into processing, and they don't lock up mid way. It's the same reason you can get 2 to 5 times the performance out of a Samba file server when compared to a Windows 2000 Server serving files over SMB.

Also take note that the Linux kernel supported new and inexpensive 64bit CPUs before they were even released to the market. I don't think they have released XP for 64bit yet.

- raven morris