Ironically, you're simply indicating how geeky you really are. A normal person, if talking with the creator of Linux, would be interested in computer stories, just like they would want to talk to Warren Buffet about some enticing financial stories.
If the kid were to drop a piano on someones head, would Warner Brothers be to blame?
Punish the guilty. If you were this kid's parent, and this hit you out of the blue, how would you feel? "I'm at fault because I'm not as in touch with my kid as I should have been?" Join the club.
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The "install CD" allows you to boot up in a terminal environment. It contains the packages required to stage your computer and the install guide, among other things.
You can use another CD, like Knoppix, to boot in so you can get some help from the gentoo forums etc, but you do require the installation CD.
So you people feel more satisfaction at completing a game than actually playing it?
I like long games. Sure, I have plenty of games I've purchased and never finished (like everyone else), but I don't look for short games. A good short game is just like a good long game, only . . . shorter.
My wife is an insomniac. She tries to get to sleep, but just sits in bed, her mind going over things during the day. She has to put the TV on to go to sleep.
Here's what I've found helps: I read her to sleep. I've completely read out loud the first 3 books of the Wheel of Time to her. Most of this isn't at bed though, I also read to her on road trips. When I read to her in bed, she might last a couple of pages or she might last a couple of chapters.
If you don't have anyone that's willing to read to you, I might suggest trying audio books. Since I have a very long commute (3 hrs a day, at least) I'm an Audible addict. Unabridged is the only way to go, too. I play it from my Palm Zire 72.
Anyway, it's worth a shot. There are worse ways to get to sleep than listening to a good story unfold behind your tired eyes.
Building from source isn't really that big of a deal most of the time. Most applications build very quickly on my machine. I've had some long builds, but most applications install in a few minutes.
Now, if you're going to rebuild X or KDE, that's a task you should set to happen prior to going to bed at night.
One of the nice things about Gentoo is that you do have most libs already on your computer. So if you want to build something that doesn't have an ebuild from source, it's relatively painless most of the time (unlike many other distributions where you can easily get into dependancy hell trying to pull that off).
My wife and I have valid windows licenses. These licenses started when I purchased a Windows 95 computer. Then I upgraded to 98, then to XP. My wife along the way picked up a similar upgrade path. I wonder if I count as one user, or as 3 (95, 98, XP).
Also, consider that I don't even USE Windows anymore, even though I've purchased multiple licenses for the software.
Riddle me this: How can something infinite be expanding or contracting? Those two concepts require a finite object, since they are descriptions of the size or boundries/borders of the object.
"Unit shipments"? How can you possibly compare marketshare by comparing units of Apple sold vs units of Linux distros sold. I doubt but maybe 10% of the readers here running linux have purchased their operating systems.
A more valid comparison (of desktop usage at least) would be OS citations from web browsers. I don't know if Netcraft or someone would have that info, though...
I got interested in Linux a while back. I had purchased(!) Red Hat 6 or so but it just sat on a shelf as a curiosity. I started dual booting a couple years later, my first actual install being MDK 9. I ended up settling on JAMD linux because it installed so cleanly and had a very nice package selection without being overburdened with packages. And it sat there taking up space in it's partition and never being used past the install and curiosity time shortly thereafter.
For no reason I can really discern now, I decided to scrap Windows XP and go with Linux. It could be the great stuff I heard about Cedega, as I'm an avid fan of Battlefield 1942. Anyway, I did resolve to install and use Linux on my main computer, my gaming rig (Athlon XP @2083mhz, 1.25G RAM, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, nForce motherboard).
So I installed Gentoo. I'd done installs (with mixed success due to the old geForce ti200 I had had in my box at the time flaking out when trying to startx) of Gentoo in the past, and I decided I liked Portage and the support and documentation at the Gentoo forums and main website.
I will admit it. I'm a geek at heart. My first computer was a C64, followed by an early Apple model and then an Apple IIGS. Then I had a 286 that was perhaps 12 or 25 mhz. At that time I learned DOS by sitting in a chair in my room one day and reading the DOS 3.3 manual. Reviewing the commands and trying to understand what they might be used for - really ending up priming myself to know where I could look for more information.
So now that I've installed Gentoo with no easy reversion plan should I grow discouraged, I've really enjoyed setting up my system and dealing with the problems I've been encountering. I've only been using it for less than a month now, and I'm still learning, but I like it. And it's not just the OS that I like, or the desktop manager (I was using XFCE4, but I settled on KDE - my rig is phat enough by far and I end up using some of the programs anyway. And the interface far surpasses XFCE, though it is an adequite light DE) - it is the fun I'm having with something new, something with it's own problems and benefits and abilities.
In many ways, linux is easier to use than Windows. Installing applications with Portage (or any package manager with the correct dependancy handling) is very easy, though not without snags. But, thanks to the great Gentoo forums, I've usually been able to find someone who's dealt with the problem I'm having before and am able to wrestle out a fix.
I think one of the reasons I chose to install linux is because I think it *is* the future for the PC desktop. Once you get around the growing pains, the bottom line is that it's free (as in beer, non-programmers don't really care about free speech), pretty stable, and relatively easy to use. It comes with everything you could ever need on a computer "built-in" to many distributions. And when it gains momentum, and gets to that place where there are distributions that non-geeks can install and maintain on any relatively new computer (I'm quite impressed by Xandros 2.0, that really did work out of the box with no issues at all on my athlon/nforce/integrated GF4 system), I think we'll start to see a slow exodus at first and then gain large market share as more applications are able to run native on Linux.
I've also been playing this game since the demo. About half of the community has moved to Battlefield Vietnam (as you can see at Gamespy's stat site), but many of these players also play BF1942.
The gameplay is very fun, and I remember laughing so much in the beginning when I saw those bodies flying up in the air when hit with a shell from a Chi-ha on Wake Island. The conquest gameplay type is engaging, and there are many community mods, chief among them being a modern desert warfare mod "Desert Combat".
So our judicial system is moving from Solaris to Linux for their servers. This would have been a story of note had they put Linux on the desktop, but as it stands it hardly seems newsworthy. I mean, the multinational company I work for uses Linux on many of it's servers as well.
Adoption of Linux as a server is one thing; adoption of Linux on the desktop for 30K is quite another...
I set up MDK10 w/ cvswinex for my daughter's computer. She was able to run Pajama Sam, but not a couple of her other games. So it's pretty much a crap shoot when seeing if a game is going to work with winex or not. However, that's not to say that we haven't seen significant improvements with Winex 4.
Btw, if you want to get cvswinex up and running, follow the instructions at linuX-gamers.net
I think that approach is wasteful. You're buying top of the line products, only to have their "worth" cut down by at least 40% within 6 months. I buy my components at the most attractive pricepoint. I tend to spend around 100 bucks for each component, and integrate anything that's good enough (sound, LAN). I spend a lot on the video card, so I'm going at least 150 - 230 there. In the end, I guess I end up spending 1000-1200 bucks.
Keep in mind that when we upgrade, we can usually keep our monitors and keyboards and speakers and the like when we upgrade. And unless I'm doing an architecture change requiring a new processor and motherboard (and possibly RAM), I'm going to upgrade all of these components piecemeal. When the time comes to jump on a new video card, I do so. When I want more RAM, I get that. When I need more processing power, I juice that up. The only time I'd spring for a whole new machine is if I needed one, and the only reason I'd need one is if all or most of my components were shot and/or hopelessly outdated.
But it was not recognised as such. Let's face it. We all feel that way, in reality. It's understandable. And while you may have meant it in jest, the truth is many of us feel like that in truth. I know I do. Sometimes I NEED to find a hole to climb in and be left alone for a while, releasing some of the pent up frusteration I've been building at work and possibily during the week at home.
At the same time, it is sarcastic as well. We all know that we should dedicate ourselves selflessly to our familys, and can easily be guilted into neglecting our own needs and methods for maintaining a pleasurable disposition most of the time. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. It can also cause him to lash out at his family.
I agree with this moderation. I see a woman trying to state that women in general don't act differently than man in this regard; clearly, this is not the case. While men and women are ontologically equal, they are NOT the same.
And while there may be exceptions to stereotypes, we have stereotypes for a REASON.
If a woman appears not to care about what you're talking about, you understand that she's not interested in what you're speaking about.
If a man appears to not care about what a woman is talking about, she thinks that you don't care about HER.
Sure, people like to talk about what they're interested in. But women like to talk just to talk, it's like they're blowing off steam just spouting off at the mouth about something. But men want to hide themselves in a game, in a contest, where they can spend some time puzzling or fighting or WINNING at something. And while we like to proclaim our victories our perhaps even speak of our defeats, we're not going to talk about how 1337Fr34k did in CS. But she's going to talk about how much she's pissed at her mother or your mother or the milkman.
If you're pissed, you immerse yourself in something like a game or a sport or a story on TV. If she's pissed, she wants to let someone know about it.
Computer Room #1? You've outdone me here =) We only have one "Computer Room", with 3 computer desks. My wife's machine, my machine, my daughter's machine, the laptop, and a box-in-progress.
It's interesting though, that we now dedicate whole rooms to our computers. I spend most of my time at home in there, frankly, playing BF1942 or BF:V or (currently) KOTOR. My wife plays EQ until long after I've gone to sleep, and my daughter plays Pajama Sam. I never watch TV anymore; games are so much more enjoyable and engaging.
I should really think about moving the computers into the living room...
MMORPGs are really character building games. I have a long history of playing the genre; I started playing MUDs in 1993, played Everquest on the day it was released to the public. I beta tested Dark Age of Camelot and had a small impact on the balance and dynamic of the game.
In the end, these games do produce a hold on people. It starts as a game, progresses to a hobby, grows to a habit, and eventually becomes an addiction. You're held in game by the dependancy dynamics it creates through grouping. As a member of a group in a dangerous place, you can't just leave at any time - you'd be letting the group down and perhaps (due to your absense) causing them all to die. You may commit to assisting someone on a quest, and find yourself 4 hours later trying to retrieve their corpse from a dangerous place.
There is also the social factor. You can just sit and banter with people - and as we all know, the internet opens both the good and the bad in people. To a certain extent we are anonymous, and uninhibited. And as you grow to make friends in these games, you'll log in just to "hang out" with them, maybe getting together to go hunting or exploring the virtual world together.
The games are rich, and addicting. And you can't pause them, and you can't always drop them. Which is why I had to =p
I play BF1942 now (as *MoG*=Meg=Doulos Theos), primarily. But(!) I am looking forward very much to Guild Wars.
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Ironically, you're simply indicating how geeky you really are. A normal person, if talking with the creator of Linux, would be interested in computer stories, just like they would want to talk to Warren Buffet about some enticing financial stories.
The parents of the kid? How about the kid?
"Save the whales? What about 'save the tuna'?"
If the kid were to drop a piano on someones head, would Warner Brothers be to blame?
Punish the guilty. If you were this kid's parent, and this hit you out of the blue, how would you feel? "I'm at fault because I'm not as in touch with my kid as I should have been?" Join the club.
The "install CD" allows you to boot up in a terminal environment. It contains the packages required to stage your computer and the install guide, among other things.
You can use another CD, like Knoppix, to boot in so you can get some help from the gentoo forums etc, but you do require the installation CD.
So you people feel more satisfaction at completing a game than actually playing it?
I like long games. Sure, I have plenty of games I've purchased and never finished (like everyone else), but I don't look for short games. A good short game is just like a good long game, only . . . shorter.
Here's what I've found helps: I read her to sleep. I've completely read out loud the first 3 books of the Wheel of Time to her. Most of this isn't at bed though, I also read to her on road trips. When I read to her in bed, she might last a couple of pages or she might last a couple of chapters.
If you don't have anyone that's willing to read to you, I might suggest trying audio books. Since I have a very long commute (3 hrs a day, at least) I'm an Audible addict. Unabridged is the only way to go, too. I play it from my Palm Zire 72.
Anyway, it's worth a shot. There are worse ways to get to sleep than listening to a good story unfold behind your tired eyes.
Building from source isn't really that big of a deal most of the time. Most applications build very quickly on my machine. I've had some long builds, but most applications install in a few minutes.
Now, if you're going to rebuild X or KDE, that's a task you should set to happen prior to going to bed at night.
One of the nice things about Gentoo is that you do have most libs already on your computer. So if you want to build something that doesn't have an ebuild from source, it's relatively painless most of the time (unlike many other distributions where you can easily get into dependancy hell trying to pull that off).
My wife and I have valid windows licenses. These licenses started when I purchased a Windows 95 computer. Then I upgraded to 98, then to XP. My wife along the way picked up a similar upgrade path. I wonder if I count as one user, or as 3 (95, 98, XP).
Also, consider that I don't even USE Windows anymore, even though I've purchased multiple licenses for the software.
Riddle me this: How can something infinite be expanding or contracting? Those two concepts require a finite object, since they are descriptions of the size or boundries/borders of the object.
"Unit shipments"? How can you possibly compare marketshare by comparing units of Apple sold vs units of Linux distros sold. I doubt but maybe 10% of the readers here running linux have purchased their operating systems.
A more valid comparison (of desktop usage at least) would be OS citations from web browsers. I don't know if Netcraft or someone would have that info, though...
For no reason I can really discern now, I decided to scrap Windows XP and go with Linux. It could be the great stuff I heard about Cedega, as I'm an avid fan of Battlefield 1942. Anyway, I did resolve to install and use Linux on my main computer, my gaming rig (Athlon XP @2083mhz, 1.25G RAM, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, nForce motherboard).
So I installed Gentoo. I'd done installs (with mixed success due to the old geForce ti200 I had had in my box at the time flaking out when trying to startx) of Gentoo in the past, and I decided I liked Portage and the support and documentation at the Gentoo forums and main website.
I will admit it. I'm a geek at heart. My first computer was a C64, followed by an early Apple model and then an Apple IIGS. Then I had a 286 that was perhaps 12 or 25 mhz. At that time I learned DOS by sitting in a chair in my room one day and reading the DOS 3.3 manual. Reviewing the commands and trying to understand what they might be used for - really ending up priming myself to know where I could look for more information. So now that I've installed Gentoo with no easy reversion plan should I grow discouraged, I've really enjoyed setting up my system and dealing with the problems I've been encountering. I've only been using it for less than a month now, and I'm still learning, but I like it. And it's not just the OS that I like, or the desktop manager (I was using XFCE4, but I settled on KDE - my rig is phat enough by far and I end up using some of the programs anyway. And the interface far surpasses XFCE, though it is an adequite light DE) - it is the fun I'm having with something new, something with it's own problems and benefits and abilities.
In many ways, linux is easier to use than Windows. Installing applications with Portage (or any package manager with the correct dependancy handling) is very easy, though not without snags. But, thanks to the great Gentoo forums, I've usually been able to find someone who's dealt with the problem I'm having before and am able to wrestle out a fix.
I think one of the reasons I chose to install linux is because I think it *is* the future for the PC desktop. Once you get around the growing pains, the bottom line is that it's free (as in beer, non-programmers don't really care about free speech), pretty stable, and relatively easy to use. It comes with everything you could ever need on a computer "built-in" to many distributions. And when it gains momentum, and gets to that place where there are distributions that non-geeks can install and maintain on any relatively new computer (I'm quite impressed by Xandros 2.0, that really did work out of the box with no issues at all on my athlon/nforce/integrated GF4 system), I think we'll start to see a slow exodus at first and then gain large market share as more applications are able to run native on Linux.
I've also been playing this game since the demo. About half of the community has moved to Battlefield Vietnam (as you can see at Gamespy's stat site), but many of these players also play BF1942. The gameplay is very fun, and I remember laughing so much in the beginning when I saw those bodies flying up in the air when hit with a shell from a Chi-ha on Wake Island. The conquest gameplay type is engaging, and there are many community mods, chief among them being a modern desert warfare mod "Desert Combat".
So our judicial system is moving from Solaris to Linux for their servers. This would have been a story of note had they put Linux on the desktop, but as it stands it hardly seems newsworthy. I mean, the multinational company I work for uses Linux on many of it's servers as well.
Adoption of Linux as a server is one thing; adoption of Linux on the desktop for 30K is quite another...
Btw, if you want to get cvswinex up and running, follow the instructions at linuX-gamers.net
When the state is your God, legality is morality.
I think that approach is wasteful. You're buying top of the line products, only to have their "worth" cut down by at least 40% within 6 months. I buy my components at the most attractive pricepoint. I tend to spend around 100 bucks for each component, and integrate anything that's good enough (sound, LAN). I spend a lot on the video card, so I'm going at least 150 - 230 there. In the end, I guess I end up spending 1000-1200 bucks.
Keep in mind that when we upgrade, we can usually keep our monitors and keyboards and speakers and the like when we upgrade. And unless I'm doing an architecture change requiring a new processor and motherboard (and possibly RAM), I'm going to upgrade all of these components piecemeal. When the time comes to jump on a new video card, I do so. When I want more RAM, I get that. When I need more processing power, I juice that up. The only time I'd spring for a whole new machine is if I needed one, and the only reason I'd need one is if all or most of my components were shot and/or hopelessly outdated.
But it was not recognised as such. Let's face it. We all feel that way, in reality. It's understandable. And while you may have meant it in jest, the truth is many of us feel like that in truth. I know I do. Sometimes I NEED to find a hole to climb in and be left alone for a while, releasing some of the pent up frusteration I've been building at work and possibily during the week at home.
At the same time, it is sarcastic as well. We all know that we should dedicate ourselves selflessly to our familys, and can easily be guilted into neglecting our own needs and methods for maintaining a pleasurable disposition most of the time. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. It can also cause him to lash out at his family.
I, for one, welcome our new female overlords.
I agree with this moderation. I see a woman trying to state that women in general don't act differently than man in this regard; clearly, this is not the case. While men and women are ontologically equal, they are NOT the same.
And while there may be exceptions to stereotypes, we have stereotypes for a REASON.
If a woman appears not to care about what you're talking about, you understand that she's not interested in what you're speaking about. If a man appears to not care about what a woman is talking about, she thinks that you don't care about HER.
Sure, people like to talk about what they're interested in. But women like to talk just to talk, it's like they're blowing off steam just spouting off at the mouth about something. But men want to hide themselves in a game, in a contest, where they can spend some time puzzling or fighting or WINNING at something. And while we like to proclaim our victories our perhaps even speak of our defeats, we're not going to talk about how 1337Fr34k did in CS. But she's going to talk about how much she's pissed at her mother or your mother or the milkman. If you're pissed, you immerse yourself in something like a game or a sport or a story on TV. If she's pissed, she wants to let someone know about it.
Computer Room #1? You've outdone me here =) We only have one "Computer Room", with 3 computer desks. My wife's machine, my machine, my daughter's machine, the laptop, and a box-in-progress. It's interesting though, that we now dedicate whole rooms to our computers. I spend most of my time at home in there, frankly, playing BF1942 or BF:V or (currently) KOTOR. My wife plays EQ until long after I've gone to sleep, and my daughter plays Pajama Sam. I never watch TV anymore; games are so much more enjoyable and engaging. I should really think about moving the computers into the living room...
... while she's not around.
MMORPGs are really character building games. I have a long history of playing the genre; I started playing MUDs in 1993, played Everquest on the day it was released to the public. I beta tested Dark Age of Camelot and had a small impact on the balance and dynamic of the game. In the end, these games do produce a hold on people. It starts as a game, progresses to a hobby, grows to a habit, and eventually becomes an addiction. You're held in game by the dependancy dynamics it creates through grouping. As a member of a group in a dangerous place, you can't just leave at any time - you'd be letting the group down and perhaps (due to your absense) causing them all to die. You may commit to assisting someone on a quest, and find yourself 4 hours later trying to retrieve their corpse from a dangerous place. There is also the social factor. You can just sit and banter with people - and as we all know, the internet opens both the good and the bad in people. To a certain extent we are anonymous, and uninhibited. And as you grow to make friends in these games, you'll log in just to "hang out" with them, maybe getting together to go hunting or exploring the virtual world together. The games are rich, and addicting. And you can't pause them, and you can't always drop them. Which is why I had to =p I play BF1942 now (as *MoG*=Meg=Doulos Theos), primarily. But(!) I am looking forward very much to Guild Wars.
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