(If, however, it is only used to catch someone who overstays their meter by a few minutes then it is not so useful.)
I believe this would be more the case. In Belgium parking-ticket revenue is per city in the millions. Even sometimes where it's unclear where you have to pay or not: cities invest alot in placing meters and have people check it (they are now run by private organisations instead of police.)
Seeing that parking for a day in a city like Brussels would cost you 15 euro (or 20usd) this is a nice cashcow and it gets milked.
Imagine you work in Brussels, you pay your gas and your 15 euro / day. If you go by train you pay in the town you park your car between 5-10 euro a day to park, about 100 euro a month for a train-subscription.
No wonder people play the "cat and mouse game" with metermaids; if parking without ticket results in a fine of 20 euros up to 50 euros, and the frequency of checks are randomized alot of people take the bet and cities cry because they projected some extra millions in revenue.
and then I got at angry at the human who arbitrarily turned the other robot off [...] SkyNet is born.
Alot of people who have angry emotions are put in a box.
The advantage of machines feeling is that they are all locked in a metal box and don't really have an awareness or ability to process certain sensory input: You can unplug the webcam and they cannot reprogram themselves to learn or experience a video-stream, it's like us upgrading our DNA in order to experience something we haven't got a concept for. Let alone the idea of program to "feel the need to create an algorithm to extend itself" with the possibility to take itself out; just imagine the debugging process...
The disadvantage is that other people are looking and believing what the box shows on a screen, and take orders from it as they're conditioned to. (and assume the box doesn't think itself.)
So, only in the case they are sential, they're unpluggable, have an unlimited batterysupply (not humans) have unpluggable sensors and can reprogram themselves (and extrapolate the advantage of a certain reprogramming) I think we're screwed.
Tantalus's punishment for his act, now a proverbial term for temptation without satisfaction (the source of the English word "tantalise" - US "tantalize"),[13]) was to stand in a pool of water beneath a fruit tree with low branches. Whenever he reached for the fruit, the branches raised his intended meal from his grasp. Whenever he bent down to get a drink, the water receded before he could get any. Over his head towers a threatening stone, like that of Sisyphus.[14]
There is no such thing as an absolute liberty that allows you to do anything you wish without consequences.
I believe that's liberty in itself: you have the choice to take the consequences. You're educated about the consequences of your actions, and the influence you exert. Some actions have consequences, you have the liberty to make that decision or take such a particular action any time.
It's the same principle as certain people complaining endlessly, yet do not see the causality or their own responsability in the result. For example, you have overweight people who pitty themselves and complain about their physique while they take no effort in changing. Otoh, you have people who feel pride or really do not care/prioritize certain pleasures and happily take the result of that with it.
As I have contemplated what makes some people with above average intelligence different and how they can either tone it down or otherwise adjust comfortably into society
I'm sorry, but you come off as very elitist; "I don't fit into society, but I'm way above average and everybody else is too stupid (to understand me). That's reasoning in order to maintain a certain position you clearly dislike, but giving purpose to it by telling yourself you're "above average".
"Intellingence" is a very wide subject and is sensitive to interpretation: A bushman wouldn't be able to "do the intelligent things you consider intelligent", but you wouldn't survive long in his world. It's relative, but you victimize yourself and place yourself on top of other in a egocentrical "I must be better".
Perhaps I am simply too contemplative, but that is something I simply cannot turn off except when I am sleeping. (and even then... is it really off?)
Oh, woo me, the intelligent creature who suffers and is "always on". All those other stupid fucks sleep well and go about their meaningless lifes...
By the age of 10, my contemplative nature led me to conclude there can be no God in the form it is currently being pushed on us
I'm sorry, but that doesn't take "above average intelligence". And by all means, by the age of 10 you do not have a "need for a god" in a western midclass world where you're shielded from life, certain life events later who will make you cry you wished there was something or someone who is godlike. At 10, you lack certain insight and experience. I'm not telling you I believe in a god, but at that age you lack experience.
(well, exposure to PBS and the clear existence of "childhood myths" such as santa claus and the easter bunny also helped in the process to be sure.)
TV isn't life, get out, live a bit.
But where does it all come from and why aren't other people like this?
They're not around because they don't like hanging out by an isolated guy who feels superiour in his self-explaining of his isolation.
And like many homosexual people, I wouldn't care to change it even if I could
Don't mix intelligence, a sense of superiority with your sexual preferences and religion. You're not discussing on topic, you're just being an egocentric shortminded selfentitling dumbfuck.
I'm sure you feel you have all figured out already as well:)
Say this thing is widely integrated and alot of people use it, because (as shown in the clip) going up stairs is such an incomfortable task that might make you sweat and give up going upstairs. While you sit down, feeling like a failure because you were defeated by a stairway.
I do realize, this is thought for less mobile people or perhaps revalidation, but with a "cool"-factor like the segway, just imagine people not using their bodies anymore, no muscle-development turning into these meek puny defensless creatures sans-devices.
I'll keep on walking myself as long I can, thanksverymuch.
I'm sure many other bilingual people that speak both languages frequently can probably say something similar.
I have a good understanding of 4 languages and speak 3 fluently (English, Dutch, French, German)
I can attest to this in a certain extend: My thoughts are often also in concepts, but the "context" of a language differs greatly and the way people express themselves in the different languages have different nuances. Often it depends on the context I'm thinking to which language I switch if I'm actually thinking in language. It feels like a post-process filter, where I sometimes conclude mid-sentence I don't have a translation for a specific word yet I'm in the process of actively verbalizing the concept or idea.
The concepts that the languages describe are not just langual but also cultural and within your demography you're "on par" with the cultural nuances to be able to communicate.
The languages I've been in contact with are a bit simular and related, but as an example the Spanish they speak in Cuba is a different one with different expressions as the Spanish in Spain, where the life-conditions are vastly different.
So for me, it seems a grand challenge to come to a "babelfish", which translates universal concepts and where brainwaves are identical to recreate the same (or simular, or derived, or local) concept or idea.
To me it seems these "thought reading machines" are just able to capture a brainwave pattern, associate a concept or word with it individually. Otherwise it would raise for me personally ALOT of additional questions and requires a readjustment of how I imagine the brain to operate and come into form through aging and learning.
It was just a feedback-loop where after pushing some buttons you receive a (audio)visual/sensory reward or result for pushing the buttons in a certain sequence.
As a programmer, you are paid to generate a certain audiovisual result for someone who has learned to ask other people to learn to push the buttons in the right sequence to come to the sensory result (s)he desires.
Brain-computer interface really taking up via to emos?
For me this raises the question; if an emo watches emoRate. Should emoRate show the emo video material matching the emo's emotional state and thus amplifying and affirming emo's emotions entering a self-referencing emo-loop...
Or should one design an algorithm detecting emotional changes of users watching emoRate, and serve emo content countering emo's current emotional state in the opposite direction?
Say, distilling your facebook data:
"subject x in agerange y who lists keyswords a,b,c as interest matches category 'Emo'."
"category 'Emo' responds well to imagery of young kittens yet negative being presented by imagery of maternal figures"
and keeps using it for the same or other purpose for which it was designed.
Consider this: if you want to hide something, hide it in plain view.
But I can imagine this is also a great inside joke, imagine this:
Young eager cadet: "Sergei, what is this?"
"Our top of the line distraction and nuclear defence device!"
"How does it work?"
"We keep on broadcasting this pendula going over this magnetic field"
"Why?"
"Oh, you see... The CIA is listening since 1982 and can imagine it's a nuclear reaction device or anything they can come up with. We use it joke around since the signal can be picked up everywhere in Russia."
"How?"
"Do you see this microphone?"
"Yes..."
"Say, I met this girl Naimina and I want to share story and her number and zipcode with my comrades..."
reaches for microphone: "UVB-76, UVB-76 -- 93 882 naimina 74 14 35 74 -- 9 3 8 8 2 nikolai, anna, ivan, michail, ivan, nikolai, anna, 7, 4, 1, 4, 3, 5, 7, 4"
Just diversifying their portfolio or are there other objectives at work?
They want to optimize their support-offices... Someone realized 90% of their calls was among these lines:"MY COMPUTER RUNS SLOW SINCE I GOT A PENTIUM!" with the sole fix to uninstall McAfee and afterwards reinstalling the OS if the McAfee uninstal takes the guts of your PC with it.
Google came to be because there was an opportunity in the market, and a very large one at that.
Oh really?
Do you remember the internet around that time?
We had AskJeeves, Astalavista, HotBot, Yahoo, Ilse and a pile of other searchengines. Google was one of the pile.
Later google released gmail. We had millions of online email providers, hotmail was really hot that time with MSN-chat integration and your profile page (taking a throw at MySpace)
Google did bring innovation in searchresults and found a way to neatly advertize. But most of its funtionality was very much already existing. They played the same game as alot of others at that time, but just slightly better.
Yahoo, in every thing they've done has had the upper hand, and let it slip away. They grab a market, and fail to innovate beyond that. They get greedy with big checks from advertisers and can't see beyond that.
Every large cooperation at a certain point starts to work profit driven and do get greedy in a sense. I doubt someone sat at Yahoo thinking "ok, this is slipping away", no they thought they were doing the thing generating the most profit.
Alot of older softwarehouses have a product, they (suits) milk it for years to come and just "innovate" as necessary, not beyond that.
Connected to the overly-expensive cellular internet
If you drive an Audi A8 you have some extra pocketmoney to spare.
Added to that, I can imagine these cars being leased by coorporate/direction types who can bring it in as a company expense.
I pay 8euro for 500Mb/month for my 3G connection which gets me by for what I do until I hit a Wifi-hotspot.
For a "businesspack" with unlimited calling/texting and 500Mb on 3G (+0,0165euro/MB if you go over it) you put out 70euro, which you can write off taxes. (mind you, a nice businessdinner cost you ALOT more as 70 euro)
Maybe this will give them an idea of how it feels to have your privacy invaded.
While I share your concerns and it's a hot debate the latest years consider this...
The greater part of people go online these days and enter personal data, as a matter of fact, plenty of then do no other thing online as entering data on servers owned by others.
These services these people enter data and content (gmail, google, facebook, slashdot, fora, flickr, twitter,...) without needing to host or create a platform themselves in a 1990s online-experience.
In return they have their data analyzed and shown "discrete ads". Seems a fair tradeoff in business terms and value-return.
OTOH, google owes you nothing; you can always close your account and seek alternatives.
Based on the way Apple has talked about flash, I guess people's iPhones are just going to explode.
It's why Papermann, the Apple Hardware designer, has resigned after "the last ultimate hardware design".
The plot to cleanse the world of consumerism, why do you think they had those Russian spies all over the USA? No doubt Papermann was a nice infiltrant and will now enjoying his view on the beach in Russia (which is, a bit more tropical climated as usual as a way to compensate Papermann.)
Brilliant to take out the Apple drones first, the class-A model of consumerism, Communism will be victorious AGAIN!
What I want to know is, what will the trend-followers jump on to next
Well, that thing is having a small niche of people enjoying it right now privately. The moment it become "popular" and "trendy", it will kill its originating core-base.
By the time it's general public, its soul will be dead.
I guess you should ask 14-15yo's right now what's hot and cool to know as we've pushed through our generation and hypothecated on it, we grew older and made (or found ways to justify) our jobs with it for what we thought was cool and innovating and all in their niche has preached it as the next best thing because we believed it was and taught it was while all envisioned a world where it could be.
It's why we're here without a renewing populus, reliving our own tech-nostalgia. Ever wondered why "hardcore nerds" are *STILL* talking about starwars? It's yought-nostalgia and with slashdot and all we unite, justify it and keep the "image alive", but we'll die out and the legacy we're leaving behind us with the interest to understand and maintain the "pragmatic thinking in coding" or preaching in the industry we've pushed forth and discussed about in a self-serving sense of importance and creation of an industry we all feel good with because we can "thinking with computers and get paid for it".
So, while making the extrapolation and combing the enthousiastic talks of my cousins, the future will be about vampires and law-enforcement with cool forensics skills.
Slashdot Mirror
Exactly, guiding the drones those who pushed the button for button destruction (and potentially the operator).
I believe this would be more the case. In Belgium parking-ticket revenue is per city in the millions. Even sometimes where it's unclear where you have to pay or not: cities invest alot in placing meters and have people check it (they are now run by private organisations instead of police.)
Seeing that parking for a day in a city like Brussels would cost you 15 euro (or 20usd) this is a nice cashcow and it gets milked.
Imagine you work in Brussels, you pay your gas and your 15 euro / day. If you go by train you pay in the town you park your car between 5-10 euro a day to park, about 100 euro a month for a train-subscription.
No wonder people play the "cat and mouse game" with metermaids; if parking without ticket results in a fine of 20 euros up to 50 euros, and the frequency of checks are randomized alot of people take the bet and cities cry because they projected some extra millions in revenue.
Alot of people who have angry emotions are put in a box.
The advantage of machines feeling is that they are all locked in a metal box and don't really have an awareness or ability to process certain sensory input: You can unplug the webcam and they cannot reprogram themselves to learn or experience a video-stream, it's like us upgrading our DNA in order to experience something we haven't got a concept for. Let alone the idea of program to "feel the need to create an algorithm to extend itself" with the possibility to take itself out; just imagine the debugging process...
The disadvantage is that other people are looking and believing what the box shows on a screen, and take orders from it as they're conditioned to. (and assume the box doesn't think itself.)
So, only in the case they are sential, they're unpluggable, have an unlimited batterysupply (not humans) have unpluggable sensors and can reprogram themselves (and extrapolate the advantage of a certain reprogramming) I think we're screwed.
wiki:Tantalus
Tantalus's punishment for his act, now a proverbial term for temptation without satisfaction (the source of the English word "tantalise" - US "tantalize"),[13]) was to stand in a pool of water beneath a fruit tree with low branches. Whenever he reached for the fruit, the branches raised his intended meal from his grasp. Whenever he bent down to get a drink, the water receded before he could get any. Over his head towers a threatening stone, like that of Sisyphus.[14]
I believe that's liberty in itself: you have the choice to take the consequences. You're educated about the consequences of your actions, and the influence you exert. Some actions have consequences, you have the liberty to make that decision or take such a particular action any time.
It's the same principle as certain people complaining endlessly, yet do not see the causality or their own responsability in the result. For example, you have overweight people who pitty themselves and complain about their physique while they take no effort in changing. Otoh, you have people who feel pride or really do not care/prioritize certain pleasures and happily take the result of that with it.
Oh, yes. It was. Otherwise I wasn't as elaborate or I wouldn't have exactly cared as much about it :)
I'm sorry, but you come off as very elitist; "I don't fit into society, but I'm way above average and everybody else is too stupid (to understand me). That's reasoning in order to maintain a certain position you clearly dislike, but giving purpose to it by telling yourself you're "above average".
"Intellingence" is a very wide subject and is sensitive to interpretation: A bushman wouldn't be able to "do the intelligent things you consider intelligent", but you wouldn't survive long in his world. It's relative, but you victimize yourself and place yourself on top of other in a egocentrical "I must be better".
Oh, woo me, the intelligent creature who suffers and is "always on". All those other stupid fucks sleep well and go about their meaningless lifes...
I'm sorry, but that doesn't take "above average intelligence". And by all means, by the age of 10 you do not have a "need for a god" in a western midclass world where you're shielded from life, certain life events later who will make you cry you wished there was something or someone who is godlike. At 10, you lack certain insight and experience. I'm not telling you I believe in a god, but at that age you lack experience.
TV isn't life, get out, live a bit.
They're not around because they don't like hanging out by an isolated guy who feels superiour in his self-explaining of his isolation.
Don't mix intelligence, a sense of superiority with your sexual preferences and religion. You're not discussing on topic, you're just being an egocentric shortminded selfentitling dumbfuck.
I'm sure you feel you have all figured out already as well :)
Say this thing is widely integrated and alot of people use it, because (as shown in the clip) going up stairs is such an incomfortable task that might make you sweat and give up going upstairs. While you sit down, feeling like a failure because you were defeated by a stairway.
I do realize, this is thought for less mobile people or perhaps revalidation, but with a "cool"-factor like the segway, just imagine people not using their bodies anymore, no muscle-development turning into these meek puny defensless creatures sans-devices.
I'll keep on walking myself as long I can, thanksverymuch.
Are you a professional programmer?
Predicting randomness would've save me alot of time in my projects ;)
We soon need to certify in quantum-mechanical logic to write software?
Any good resources?
It means more "Security by marketing".
I have a good understanding of 4 languages and speak 3 fluently (English, Dutch, French, German)
I can attest to this in a certain extend: My thoughts are often also in concepts, but the "context" of a language differs greatly and the way people express themselves in the different languages have different nuances. Often it depends on the context I'm thinking to which language I switch if I'm actually thinking in language. It feels like a post-process filter, where I sometimes conclude mid-sentence I don't have a translation for a specific word yet I'm in the process of actively verbalizing the concept or idea.
The concepts that the languages describe are not just langual but also cultural and within your demography you're "on par" with the cultural nuances to be able to communicate.
The languages I've been in contact with are a bit simular and related, but as an example the Spanish they speak in Cuba is a different one with different expressions as the Spanish in Spain, where the life-conditions are vastly different.
So for me, it seems a grand challenge to come to a "babelfish", which translates universal concepts and where brainwaves are identical to recreate the same (or simular, or derived, or local) concept or idea.
To me it seems these "thought reading machines" are just able to capture a brainwave pattern, associate a concept or word with it individually. Otherwise it would raise for me personally ALOT of additional questions and requires a readjustment of how I imagine the brain to operate and come into form through aging and learning.
It was just a feedback-loop where after pushing some buttons you receive a (audio)visual/sensory reward or result for pushing the buttons in a certain sequence.
As a programmer, you are paid to generate a certain audiovisual result for someone who has learned to ask other people to learn to push the buttons in the right sequence to come to the sensory result (s)he desires.
Did Putin add you as friend on facebook ?
For me this raises the question; if an emo watches emoRate. Should emoRate show the emo video material matching the emo's emotional state and thus amplifying and affirming emo's emotions entering a self-referencing emo-loop...
Or should one design an algorithm detecting emotional changes of users watching emoRate, and serve emo content countering emo's current emotional state in the opposite direction?
Say, distilling your facebook data:
"subject x in agerange y who lists keyswords a,b,c as interest matches category 'Emo'."
"category 'Emo' responds well to imagery of young kittens yet negative being presented by imagery of maternal figures"
Consider this: if you want to hide something, hide it in plain view.
But I can imagine this is also a great inside joke, imagine this:
Young eager cadet: "Sergei, what is this?"
"Our top of the line distraction and nuclear defence device!"
"How does it work?"
"We keep on broadcasting this pendula going over this magnetic field"
"Why?"
"Oh, you see... The CIA is listening since 1982 and can imagine it's a nuclear reaction device or anything they can come up with. We use it joke around since the signal can be picked up everywhere in Russia."
"How?"
"Do you see this microphone?"
"Yes..."
"Say, I met this girl Naimina and I want to share story and her number and zipcode with my comrades..."
reaches for microphone: "UVB-76, UVB-76 -- 93 882 naimina 74 14 35 74 -- 9 3 8 8 2 nikolai, anna, ivan, michail, ivan, nikolai, anna, 7, 4, 1, 4, 3, 5, 7, 4"
They want to optimize their support-offices...
Someone realized 90% of their calls was among these lines:"MY COMPUTER RUNS SLOW SINCE I GOT A PENTIUM!"
with the sole fix to uninstall McAfee and afterwards reinstalling the OS if the McAfee uninstal takes the guts of your PC with it.
They are going to fix McAfee.
You know too much...
Can I suggest you a nice locationbased facebook game? You can share your score with your friends and grandmother!! FOR FREE!
Oh really?
Do you remember the internet around that time?
We had AskJeeves, Astalavista, HotBot, Yahoo, Ilse and a pile of other searchengines. Google was one of the pile.
Later google released gmail. We had millions of online email providers, hotmail was really hot that time with MSN-chat integration and your profile page (taking a throw at MySpace)
Google did bring innovation in searchresults and found a way to neatly advertize. But most of its funtionality was very much already existing. They played the same game as alot of others at that time, but just slightly better.
Every large cooperation at a certain point starts to work profit driven and do get greedy in a sense. I doubt someone sat at Yahoo thinking "ok, this is slipping away", no they thought they were doing the thing generating the most profit.
Alot of older softwarehouses have a product, they (suits) milk it for years to come and just "innovate" as necessary, not beyond that.
This makes me want to create a task which prompts once a week/2weeks wherever the user is still alive.
Once you stop confirming, your account gets taking over by the random predefined mode.
Image the stress after coming back after a 3-week holiday...
If you drive an Audi A8 you have some extra pocketmoney to spare.
Added to that, I can imagine these cars being leased by coorporate/direction types who can bring it in as a company expense.
I pay 8euro for 500Mb/month for my 3G connection which gets me by for what I do until I hit a Wifi-hotspot.
For a "businesspack" with unlimited calling/texting and 500Mb on 3G (+0,0165euro/MB if you go over it) you put out 70euro, which you can write off taxes. (mind you, a nice businessdinner cost you ALOT more as 70 euro)
While I share your concerns and it's a hot debate the latest years consider this...
The greater part of people go online these days and enter personal data, as a matter of fact, plenty of then do no other thing online as entering data on servers owned by others.
These services these people enter data and content (gmail, google, facebook, slashdot, fora, flickr, twitter, ...) without needing to host or create a platform themselves in a 1990s online-experience.
In return they have their data analyzed and shown "discrete ads".
Seems a fair tradeoff in business terms and value-return.
OTOH, google owes you nothing; you can always close your account and seek alternatives.
3dfx is dead.
They've gone bankrupt since 2000
But I share your sentiments, once I got my Voodoo Banshee card and got some extra RAM in my Pentium I was king on earth.
It's why Papermann, the Apple Hardware designer, has resigned after "the last ultimate hardware design".
The plot to cleanse the world of consumerism, why do you think they had those Russian spies all over the USA? No doubt Papermann was a nice infiltrant and will now enjoying his view on the beach in Russia (which is, a bit more tropical climated as usual as a way to compensate Papermann.)
Brilliant to take out the Apple drones first, the class-A model of consumerism, Communism will be victorious AGAIN!
Fire up those Linux advocate-engines!
2011 *IS* the year of the Linux desktop, hooray!
Well, that thing is having a small niche of people enjoying it right now privately. The moment it become "popular" and "trendy", it will kill its originating core-base.
By the time it's general public, its soul will be dead.
I guess you should ask 14-15yo's right now what's hot and cool to know as we've pushed through our generation and hypothecated on it, we grew older and made (or found ways to justify) our jobs with it for what we thought was cool and innovating and all in their niche has preached it as the next best thing because we believed it was and taught it was while all envisioned a world where it could be.
It's why we're here without a renewing populus, reliving our own tech-nostalgia. Ever wondered why "hardcore nerds" are *STILL* talking about starwars? It's yought-nostalgia and with slashdot and all we unite, justify it and keep the "image alive", but we'll die out and the legacy we're leaving behind us with the interest to understand and maintain the "pragmatic thinking in coding" or preaching in the industry we've pushed forth and discussed about in a self-serving sense of importance and creation of an industry we all feel good with because we can "thinking with computers and get paid for it".
So, while making the extrapolation and combing the enthousiastic talks of my cousins, the future will be about vampires and law-enforcement with cool forensics skills.