Now how are you going rile people up with warm fuzzy names like "copyright infringement groups"?. That's like calling terrorists the "opposing side". Doesn't really bring up any emotion, does it? It doesn't matter if we're right or wrong. The idea here is to get people on your side ready and willing to fight for your beleifs. You make it feel like it's their beliefs also. Cover up all that silly reason and logic with unbridaled emotion and FUD, and they're all yours. Prison construction is at an all time high. We got a lot of rooms to fill. There's big profits in them thar cells. I think that the U.S. is in competition with China to see who can imprison more people. They're tired of being number two.
Right, but the people getting on these airline flights aren't test pilots who understand and have accepted the risk.
I only brought that up because of the reference made to the stats on the Jersey Turnpike. Shuttle stats belong in a fairly unique group that would more likely compare to the failure rate of the X-1 or X-15 for instance, or as others compared it to Mercury or Apollo.
Despite what they say, do any of you actually expect any privacy with these services? Don't play around with what they "should" do. Let's look at reality here. These people have never, nor will they ever protect your privacy in any way, shape, or form. Let's quit fooling ourselves. This is the way it's always been. If you believe anybody's privacy statements, then I have some beautiful land in Florida for sale. I also has some action in a famous bridge in New York if you want a piece of that. Find a way of enforcing them, and maybe they can become believable. For now, when you're using a chat program or almost anything on the net, you're broadcasting it all over. The privacy thing is an illusion.
Apollo 18, 19, and 20 were Skylab missions, no? Apollo 21 was Apollo-Soyuz in '75?
98.3% is a pretty good success rate IMHO.
In experimental vehicles perhaps. In everyday life out side of a Las Vegas casino, it's unacceptable. Do that math. Imagine if we lost almost 2% of our airline flights.
So who are you blaming? Howard? or the people that voted for him? Watch your leaders closely, yes? Watch their followers even more closely. If the people are so easily lead around by the nose, then you can hardly blame the folks they voted for now, can you?
Boycott the MPAA! Yeah, just let me catch the last Matrix movie... Boycott the MPAA! But, but, but, The Lord of the Rings triligy is coming out... Boycott the MPAA! C'mon, man. Cut me some slack. I'll promise to join ya after this one last Statr Wars flick. Really, I mean it... Yep, we got 'em right where we want 'em. MPAA is damn near broke, and they're begging for forgiveness. Aren't we the ones accusing our parents, our gov't of always telling us, "Do what we say, not what we do."? Just curious. That's all... I don't want to rock the boat or anything.
When politics is about getting votes, not good politics, something is terribly wrong.
Yeah, it means the voter isn't paying attention. It means the voter is easily distracted by bullshit. As long as you claim to live under a democracy(democratic replublic if you prefer), the only person you can blame for anything is the voter. It doesn't matter what tricks the politician may try to pull. If the voter falls for it, there's nothing to be said. The voter screwed up. While we were watching the "Bill and Monica Show", we got DMCA. We almost got clipper chip. Don't fall for the diversions and everything will work out just fine. Bush is using 9/11 to cover up his screw ups and to help us forget what happened in 2000. He manipulated the 2004 election with the same diversion.
Keep the faith. The wireless mesh that you yourself speak of in other threads will get us out of this mess. I read some of your posts and checked out your site. It helps me realize that we still have chance. Unless the gov't requires a license to operate a computer, we'll beat this. Of course bypassing the control by the ISP's could make that a real threat. Let's just hope that your neighbors don't keep voting for people that might do this kind of thing.
Does source code = full developement envirement? Or does it involve other things like possibly...tech support, or maybe a pretty GUI interface for probramming the thing? What are you saying here? Ok, so they don't release it(which they don't have to until they release the product, as pointed out by others). Can they then stop me from extracting and using or improving it myself? Or do I need a court order to reverse engineer it? So someone does it anonymously. Game over, man. We'll see how well GPL holds up when somebody actually resists.
1. Yourself (ie: Why do I continue to vote for morons??)
2. Your neighbor (ie: Why are you voting for these morons?)
I just can't understand this thing we have against putting actual qualified people into office. Do they appear too arrogant? Do they have bad breath? Are they are bald, old, and wrinkly? What's the deal? If you want your gov't to do things like good science or good LAW, you simply have to vote for people that believe in those things. Voting for the guy with the biggest campaign budget will get you what you have now. If this is what you want, then carry on. If you want change, you know the routine. Am I getting through yet??
That would be a cool experiment. Take a mac or a pc and run a bunch of emulators on top of one another until you emulate every(major) OS out there until you come full circle to emulating the original system on top of all the others. For instance, mac to linux to windows to linux back to mac. Could it work?
I'm not sure Harvard wants people crawling their sites just find open back doors(if it was even a back door. Sounds more like a side door to me.). I'm also not sure that the info was in a restricted area, and they just left the door open. If this was accidental, then yes the site operaters should be hanged. If it was intentional to see who peeks into places they shouldn't go, then bye bye, better luck in Phoenix. I would like to know if that was the case. I'm aware that Harvard will try to protect its reputation above all else, so unless an insider speaks up, we'll probably never know. I honestly don't mind these little tricks to find out who is honest or not, especially when they catch them early before any harm is done and nobody has to go to jail. If that is what it was. Either way, I don't think I would want these guys in my company no matter(almost) what reason they had. If I leave a restricted access door open by accident or whatever, I want to be able to trust everybody to stay out. I don't want to have to lock up every pen and paper clip in the safe. I don't want to have to put up security cameras to watch over everybody. I would like some assurance that my desk or room will be just as I left it the previous day. Being able to trust the people we deal with makes the day much more pleasent.
If this were the University of Phoenix we'd all be laughing...
Actually, I'm laughing more now because it was Harvard. I think the whole affair is rather funny no matter how it turns out. I find these guys to be a little like the dumb users that download "WebSearchBars" or use Kazaa beacuse a friend says that they're cool, and then wonder why their machine malfunctions.
Just do it. It's got to be cheaper than the fisticuffs.
But it wouldn't be profitable for the arms merchents that prod them on and do their best to aggravate the situation. Goes for the Middle East, also. There's no profit for the weapons industry in peace. To lose that business could wipe out America's/Europe's biggest export market. The trade defecit would jump 10 times what it is now. And their lobbyists make the entertainment and pharmaceutical lobby look like high school punks. Peace is just bad for business.
I bet more crooked business majors have come out of the Harvard Business School.
This is a good way to start cleaning up their act. Don't you think? If this area was unauthorized and they knew it, obviously they deserve what they got. I think it was a pretty good test. Maybe next time they'll get a real CS major to do it for them...to check for traps and whatnot. The whole thing sounds like a set up, and these guys got nailed good. Good for Harvard. These guys aren't going to jail for this, so I think it's a good thing. Adequate punishment for being stupid. What did they probably learn from this? Don't get caught! Sigh...
Honeypot? Hope so. Maybe it was the final phase of admission. Very good way to check on the moral well bieng of your applicants. It might save us all trouble if we can keep these types out of the boardroom. Start by keeping them out of the classroom. We don't want them to contaminate the rest of the class. Please don't vote for any of them if they happen to run for political office. They sound like perfect candidates.
One thing to add about writing to your reps is that it means nothing if they are convinced that you're going to re-elect them anyway. If you want your letters to have any teeth, back it up with your vote. It's very tiresom to hear people complaining about the people they constantly re-elect back into office until they(the politician) are dead, sometimes afterwords.(OK, bad example. I would've voted for the dead guy also.)
I'm not a fan of DRM by any stretch, but I think DRM is the missing ingredient to see the *AA embrace new media.
A change in copyright law in the publics favor for a change will bring them around. It's time to tell them, "Adapt or die." I'm not interested in making the ??AA confortable. Another, more open minded organization can take over. We shouldn't allow these people to write our laws. We, the public, have been very generous in granting them any monopoly at all, and the greedy bastards just keep wanting more. It's time to take our power back.
No, but real independant artists are. P2P enables the artist by bypass distributing middle men. That whole part of the business will go under(good riddance to 'em). The artists will do fine. Obviously the industry will do whatever it can to keep all this to themselves. They don't care whether we're using it for legal or illegal purposes. They simply don't want competition. And P2P is competition of the worse kind to them. So they will vilify it...put all the spin on it to get the public to go along.
They're not boneheaded, they just have a different set of priorities, and you're never going to be able to effectively work against them by dismissing them and their actions in this way.
You're absolutley right, but when laws are made from FUD, and no longer protect the interests of the public, in the end we must simply dismiss them, and make the law unenforcable in any way that WE can. These issues will not be debated for a long time during any election campaign. The fact that the electorate will believe the FUD is making matters worse. This is just another arms race. Besides, most of the P2P is going on unnoticed, because those people aren't blabbing it all around.
You, sir, are really full of it. I haven't seen one single post that says artists shouldn't get paid. Mine and many others' complaint is with the methods. All of you people keep throwing up that strawmwn like it should be believable or something. Well, it's NOT! It's bogus. The methods of paying artists without copyright has been mentioned many times before. Quit looking for special treatment. And yes, this IS good. It helps to let the entertainment industry know that they can't bully the whole world. We have the weapons industry for that. If only American/European policians would throw their bribe money back at them and stand up to them also.
If Slashdot stops getting any hits, the company will simply turn it off. No skin off their backs. We're probably fortunate that they've kept it up this long. So Slashdot dies, and another one pops up(get it?). It does appear that the maintainers are losing interest. This is how the Howard Beal show died. The investers are the thing. Viewers and subscribers? Bah!
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Now how are you going rile people up with warm fuzzy names like "copyright infringement groups"?. That's like calling terrorists the "opposing side". Doesn't really bring up any emotion, does it? It doesn't matter if we're right or wrong. The idea here is to get people on your side ready and willing to fight for your beleifs. You make it feel like it's their beliefs also. Cover up all that silly reason and logic with unbridaled emotion and FUD, and they're all yours. Prison construction is at an all time high. We got a lot of rooms to fill. There's big profits in them thar cells. I think that the U.S. is in competition with China to see who can imprison more people. They're tired of being number two.
Right, but the people getting on these airline flights aren't test pilots who understand and have accepted the risk.
I only brought that up because of the reference made to the stats on the Jersey Turnpike. Shuttle stats belong in a fairly unique group that would more likely compare to the failure rate of the X-1 or X-15 for instance, or as others compared it to Mercury or Apollo.
Despite what they say, do any of you actually expect any privacy with these services? Don't play around with what they "should" do. Let's look at reality here. These people have never, nor will they ever protect your privacy in any way, shape, or form. Let's quit fooling ourselves. This is the way it's always been. If you believe anybody's privacy statements, then I have some beautiful land in Florida for sale. I also has some action in a famous bridge in New York if you want a piece of that. Find a way of enforcing them, and maybe they can become believable. For now, when you're using a chat program or almost anything on the net, you're broadcasting it all over. The privacy thing is an illusion.
Apollo 18, 19, and 20 were Skylab missions, no? Apollo 21 was Apollo-Soyuz in '75?
98.3% is a pretty good success rate IMHO.
In experimental vehicles perhaps. In everyday life out side of a Las Vegas casino, it's unacceptable. Do that math. Imagine if we lost almost 2% of our airline flights.
So who are you blaming? Howard? or the people that voted for him? Watch your leaders closely, yes? Watch their followers even more closely. If the people are so easily lead around by the nose, then you can hardly blame the folks they voted for now, can you?
Boycott the MPAA!
Yeah, just let me catch the last Matrix movie...
Boycott the MPAA!
But, but, but, The Lord of the Rings triligy is coming out...
Boycott the MPAA!
C'mon, man. Cut me some slack. I'll promise to join ya after this one last Statr Wars flick. Really, I mean it...
Yep, we got 'em right where we want 'em. MPAA is damn near broke, and they're begging for forgiveness. Aren't we the ones accusing our parents, our gov't of always telling us, "Do what we say, not what we do."? Just curious. That's all... I don't want to rock the boat or anything.
When politics is about getting votes, not good politics, something is terribly wrong.
Yeah, it means the voter isn't paying attention. It means the voter is easily distracted by bullshit. As long as you claim to live under a democracy(democratic replublic if you prefer), the only person you can blame for anything is the voter. It doesn't matter what tricks the politician may try to pull. If the voter falls for it, there's nothing to be said. The voter screwed up. While we were watching the "Bill and Monica Show", we got DMCA. We almost got clipper chip. Don't fall for the diversions and everything will work out just fine. Bush is using 9/11 to cover up his screw ups and to help us forget what happened in 2000. He manipulated the 2004 election with the same diversion.
I think we're hosed.
Keep the faith. The wireless mesh that you yourself speak of in other threads will get us out of this mess. I read some of your posts and checked out your site. It helps me realize that we still have chance. Unless the gov't requires a license to operate a computer, we'll beat this. Of course bypassing the control by the ISP's could make that a real threat. Let's just hope that your neighbors don't keep voting for people that might do this kind of thing.
Does source code = full developement envirement? Or does it involve other things like possibly...tech support, or maybe a pretty GUI interface for probramming the thing? What are you saying here? Ok, so they don't release it(which they don't have to until they release the product, as pointed out by others). Can they then stop me from extracting and using or improving it myself? Or do I need a court order to reverse engineer it? So someone does it anonymously. Game over, man. We'll see how well GPL holds up when somebody actually resists.
If you want someone to blame, talk to...
Sigh! If you want someone to BLAME, talk to:
1. Yourself (ie: Why do I continue to vote for morons??)
2. Your neighbor (ie: Why are you voting for these morons?)
I just can't understand this thing we have against putting actual qualified people into office. Do they appear too arrogant? Do they have bad breath? Are they are bald, old, and wrinkly? What's the deal? If you want your gov't to do things like good science or good LAW, you simply have to vote for people that believe in those things. Voting for the guy with the biggest campaign budget will get you what you have now. If this is what you want, then carry on. If you want change, you know the routine. Am I getting through yet??
Either way it still beats the hell out of Intel.
That would be a cool experiment. Take a mac or a pc and run a bunch of emulators on top of one another until you emulate every(major) OS out there until you come full circle to emulating the original system on top of all the others. For instance, mac to linux to windows to linux back to mac. Could it work?
I'm not sure Harvard wants people crawling their sites just find open back doors(if it was even a back door. Sounds more like a side door to me.). I'm also not sure that the info was in a restricted area, and they just left the door open. If this was accidental, then yes the site operaters should be hanged. If it was intentional to see who peeks into places they shouldn't go, then bye bye, better luck in Phoenix. I would like to know if that was the case. I'm aware that Harvard will try to protect its reputation above all else, so unless an insider speaks up, we'll probably never know. I honestly don't mind these little tricks to find out who is honest or not, especially when they catch them early before any harm is done and nobody has to go to jail. If that is what it was. Either way, I don't think I would want these guys in my company no matter(almost) what reason they had. If I leave a restricted access door open by accident or whatever, I want to be able to trust everybody to stay out. I don't want to have to lock up every pen and paper clip in the safe. I don't want to have to put up security cameras to watch over everybody. I would like some assurance that my desk or room will be just as I left it the previous day. Being able to trust the people we deal with makes the day much more pleasent.
If this were the University of Phoenix we'd all be laughing...
Actually, I'm laughing more now because it was Harvard. I think the whole affair is rather funny no matter how it turns out. I find these guys to be a little like the dumb users that download "WebSearchBars" or use Kazaa beacuse a friend says that they're cool, and then wonder why their machine malfunctions.
Just do it. It's got to be cheaper than the fisticuffs.
But it wouldn't be profitable for the arms merchents that prod them on and do their best to aggravate the situation. Goes for the Middle East, also. There's no profit for the weapons industry in peace. To lose that business could wipe out America's/Europe's biggest export market. The trade defecit would jump 10 times what it is now. And their lobbyists make the entertainment and pharmaceutical lobby look like high school punks. Peace is just bad for business.
They would've just thumbed their noses at them...if they had one. As it was, all they could do was flip 'em the bird.
I'm not really sure, but maybe it's not for "seeing your own acceptance letter before it is mailed", but for breaking into the system.
I bet more crooked business majors have come out of the Harvard Business School.
This is a good way to start cleaning up their act. Don't you think? If this area was unauthorized and they knew it, obviously they deserve what they got. I think it was a pretty good test. Maybe next time they'll get a real CS major to do it for them...to check for traps and whatnot. The whole thing sounds like a set up, and these guys got nailed good. Good for Harvard. These guys aren't going to jail for this, so I think it's a good thing. Adequate punishment for being stupid. What did they probably learn from this? Don't get caught! Sigh...
Honeypot? Hope so. Maybe it was the final phase of admission. Very good way to check on the moral well bieng of your applicants. It might save us all trouble if we can keep these types out of the boardroom. Start by keeping them out of the classroom. We don't want them to contaminate the rest of the class. Please don't vote for any of them if they happen to run for political office. They sound like perfect candidates.
One thing to add about writing to your reps is that it means nothing if they are convinced that you're going to re-elect them anyway. If you want your letters to have any teeth, back it up with your vote. It's very tiresom to hear people complaining about the people they constantly re-elect back into office until they(the politician) are dead, sometimes afterwords.(OK, bad example. I would've voted for the dead guy also.)
Take laptop, rip off monitor, tear out keyboard, remove the battery, cut it in half, and fold. Any questions?
Turn it on?
I'm not a fan of DRM by any stretch, but I think DRM is the missing ingredient to see the *AA embrace new media.
A change in copyright law in the publics favor for a change will bring them around. It's time to tell them, "Adapt or die." I'm not interested in making the ??AA confortable. Another, more open minded organization can take over. We shouldn't allow these people to write our laws. We, the public, have been very generous in granting them any monopoly at all, and the greedy bastards just keep wanting more. It's time to take our power back.
We're not their concern...
No, but real independant artists are. P2P enables the artist by bypass distributing middle men. That whole part of the business will go under(good riddance to 'em). The artists will do fine. Obviously the industry will do whatever it can to keep all this to themselves. They don't care whether we're using it for legal or illegal purposes. They simply don't want competition. And P2P is competition of the worse kind to them. So they will vilify it...put all the spin on it to get the public to go along.
They're not boneheaded, they just have a different set of priorities, and you're never going to be able to effectively work against them by dismissing them and their actions in this way.
You're absolutley right, but when laws are made from FUD, and no longer protect the interests of the public, in the end we must simply dismiss them, and make the law unenforcable in any way that WE can. These issues will not be debated for a long time during any election campaign. The fact that the electorate will believe the FUD is making matters worse. This is just another arms race. Besides, most of the P2P is going on unnoticed, because those people aren't blabbing it all around.
You, sir, are really full of it. I haven't seen one single post that says artists shouldn't get paid. Mine and many others' complaint is with the methods. All of you people keep throwing up that strawmwn like it should be believable or something. Well, it's NOT! It's bogus. The methods of paying artists without copyright has been mentioned many times before. Quit looking for special treatment. And yes, this IS good. It helps to let the entertainment industry know that they can't bully the whole world. We have the weapons industry for that. If only American/European policians would throw their bribe money back at them and stand up to them also.
It's back to the future, is it?
If Slashdot stops getting any hits, the company will simply turn it off. No skin off their backs. We're probably fortunate that they've kept it up this long. So Slashdot dies, and another one pops up(get it?). It does appear that the maintainers are losing interest. This is how the Howard Beal show died. The investers are the thing. Viewers and subscribers? Bah!