Define obscene and then define lascivious. If the genitals or pubic area of any person is in the photograph, either will get you arrested.
Being the Supreme Court can't define what these two words mean do you really think an honest discourse with the arresting officer, who's up for promotion, will have any effect?
First, the arresting officer isn't the determining factor defining the above. With todays zero tolerance and his desire to make detective if he/she sees them, you're going down. Second, neither is the DA, who's also up for promotion. All he cares about is a conviction. If there's ANY chance those bathroom pictures fall within the communities MAYBE could be porn, you're going to trial.
I've seen some of the pictures people have been convicted by. The kid was just leaning against a tree. It looked like a vacation picture from a nudist camp in Europe. He was looking at 15 years on that one photograph alone.
So, if you don't have a home to mortgage or the means to make $75k in bail plus the $50k retainer for an attorney, you're going to rot in jail while the DA makes up his mind to prosecute. If he does, and he probably will, you're in for a long and expensive fight. If he doesn't, in my state, you're soon going to be forced to register as a sex offender from the arrest alone even without a conviction.
What gets me the most are people who ignore the realities around them. I say again to whomever had the pictures. Burn them. Protect yourself and your family.
"I know what you mean, I've seen pictures of myself taking a bath as a baby. BTW, I still have those pictures; does that make me guilty of possessing child porn ?"
Assuming you live in the USA, yes it does. It doesn't matter who the subject of the photograph is, only the age. In fact a 15yr girl took pictures of herself and sent them out in emails. She was subsequently arrested and charged with production, possession and distribution of CP.
I strongly suggest you remove those photos from your possession and burn them. If you decide to hide them in your attic or unused dresser drawer then never, ever agree or submit to a search without a warrant. If some routine event causes the police to stumble across them be prepared for a long expensive fight with jail time. Very unpleasant jail time I might add http://www.spr.org/.
People who accidentally downloaded CP from newsgroups who then attached the.jpg to an email complaint to the FBI soon found out that's the same as possession and distribution as in any other form. The law does not distinguish who is in the picture, why you possess it or why you distributed it. Just that you did.
Warranted or not, right or wrong, you are a felon. Protect yourself.
Netflix is doing a marketing research thing in my area. I've agreed to meet with them in person for 30 minutes next week in exchange for 4 months free service. Now along with their throttling I'll have something else to hit them with.
Any suggestions of other stuff you'd want them to know or have your complaints heard through me? I'd be glad to bring it forward.
My home was broken into three times, three days in a row. It was neighborhood kids.
I wasn't getting anywhere with the police. First the cop would take a report then a detective would come out and look around. I could tell by their tone that they weren't going to do anything about it. Not, that is, until the third time. Do you know what changed their mind?
While the detectives were there trying to make it look like they were doing something I faked a call to work and pretended to leave a message that I wasn't coming in the next day. Then I faked a call to a friend asking if I could borrow his "weapon" and that I needed it that night. I turned to the cops and said, they've come in three times, three days in a row, and they're coming back. It's my right and I'm going to protect my property.
On their way out they were visibly upset. They were convinced there was going to be a blood bath the next day. I got a call 4 hours later that they caught and arrested the boys responsible. 4 hours. And that was after they were already booked and in custody. The arrests had to have been at least and hour or two earlier.
The detective kept telling me I could go to work after all, blah, blah. It really was the thought of me hiding in ambush that got these police to do their job. It took all but 2-3 hours for them to find and arrest these boys. It took me lying and convincing them I was going to shoot the next person who walked through my door to get them to do it.
This is one of those bluffs that probably only works once in a lifetime but it worked.
I don't know why they keep hounding me. I robbed that bank five years ago and they're still drumming up old business trying to search me out. All they're doing is hurting my family and other innocent people. The money is already spent, it's not like they're going to get any of it back. Why don't they just leave well enough alone. It's like they're on a Which Hunt. Besides, I learned my lesson. The next time I won't empty the whole safe; I'll leave some for the next guy. Truly, they should just forget the whole thing and let me get on with my life.
This reminds me of an old TV show SLIDERS episode where the on that particular world lawyers out numbered the population like 20 to 1.
When one of the actors went to order a burger he was asked to provide a release from his doctor. If he wanted cheese or an order of fries he have to also provide a cholesterol screening, etc.
I wonder how the USA would fare if we curtailed things that actually killed us. 300,000 people die each year from heart problems. I think we'd save more lives if we were to declare on cholesterol. For that matter, twice as many people die each year crossing the street than in 9/11. If 3,000 people being murdered is a travesty (it is), why isn't it even worse when 10 times that many have been murdered from the resulting war?
Yes, bad anti-social people are a problem to be dealt with. That's why we have a judicial system and jails. I see no reason to eliminate or even curtail civil liberties to solve problems when statically I have a greater chance of being struck by lightning.
These low statistics are not a result of my fine government doing such a great job with new patriot type laws. The very nature of terrorism just doesn't allow for the wide spread death and destruction that drunk drivers cause. Terrorism is localized and limited in scope but designed for maximum mental effect. Our un-modified Constitution and former freedom respecting laws would have been ample to deal with these sociopaths.
At least with me they haven't even come close to winning. By they I include both the terrorists and the governments who exasperate fear.
I have much greater risks to my life to consider. Like whether or not on my way home from work a drunk driver will swerve into my lane. After all, it happens to 50,000 good citizens every each and every year.
I truly am unafraid. I am a fragile bag of mostly water. Life has risks. They need to be managed with a clear head.
I don't know the specific law or if it really exists but I have heard that police quotas for things like tickets are illegal.
I worked with a guy who was an ex-cop. I asked him about it one day. I think he confirmed that quotas were illegal. He then went on to say when he was hired his Sergeant told him,
"You make 27K a year... Just to let you know, that comes to about two tickets a day. All I'm here to say is to let you know that I'm not going to loose money on you."
It sounded like it was one of those "do the math" conversations.
Where I'm at, USA, Bellsouth, Comcast, the gas and electric companies all asked for SSN as an identifier to get service. I've never tried not giving it to see if I could still get service. Maybe next time I'll ask if that's an option.
"Please post the link(s) to any stories proving the family/police theft story....huge stretch, made with a flimsy offhand reference."
It's not that people make flimsy, offhanded remarks. The problem is you're either too lazy or too stupid to keep up with current events or do your own homework. Stop asking for "proof" when with a little effort you can learn these things yourself. Thank charge of your own education and quit asking to be spoon fed. I'll make a guess who you voted for, LoL.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snit ch/readings/hidden.htmlhttp://www.reconsider.org/tidbits/2000-05-31%20Sur e%20sounds%20like%20stealing%20to%20me_.htm
For example, a traffic stop in the Texas Panhandle last week resulted in seizure of more than $32,000 in cash, reported the Amarillo Globe News: Troopers pulled over a Pontiac sedan for speeding about 5:30 p.m. Friday, reports show. The driver consented to a search, and a drug dog found more than $32,800 in the trunk of the car. A drug dog alerting to cash suggests that drugs may have been in contact with the money at some time, according to DPS. The cash was for
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/50450_assets13 .shtml
I live in the USA and IANAL but in a similar situation I had one tell me "Call their bluff". Her advice was that they can say anything they want. Backing it up is something completely different.
I did the same thing. It went to collections and I disputed it. Within the 30-day period it came off and never showed up again. It burns a bridge. It may have come off collections but they'll keep records. I'll never be able to call and get service from them again unless or until it's paid. That is unless when they ask for a SSN I give them a made up number. I suppose if I were to do that I'd want to keep the last four numbers the same.
These same arguments were made when ATMs first came out.
"Am I going to get a discount for not going into the bank and using a teller?"
Now bank tellers are pretty much non-existent and to add injury to insult not only is there no discount you have to pay a surcharge to get money from the ATM. Self-checkout lanes will grow to become the norm; soon assisted checkout will no longer exist.
Car insurance companies have already implemented in some states giving discounts to customers if they install black boxes that monitor their driving. Today it's optional. Soon you won't be able to get insurance without one. After they establish that they'll move to the next logical course of action. They wont cover your accident if you were X% over the speed limit.
This is defined either as progress or that we're are Frogs in ever increasing water temperature.
Once, drug related property seizure laws affected only the drug lords. On I75 that runs from Florida up to Canada, cars are stopped and if you have what the officer thinks is too much cash he takes it. Doesn't matter if you're with your family and have tickets to Disney Land, that 3,000 in cash becomes property of the police and to get it back have to prove it's not drug money.
This is defined either as progress or that we're Sheep.
From ATMs, to self-checkout, drug related property seizure to you name it... This is the direction we're headed. A lot of you won't use self-checkout. But you will. In your lifetime it will become that there will be no other option available.
These adolescents are intercepted between steps 2 and 3. Charges are not "formal" until the arraignment. The D.A. can charge anybody with anything for any reason. Including for evidence that would be thrown out later on in the process.
What the Judges are doing, in conjunction with the D.A and police, are charging adolescents but during the arraignment postponing making the charges official pending the defendant doing x, y or z as I explained.
In many ways this is an ASBO.
Granted, if the defendant follows the courts restrictions, that can be anything the judge dreams up, the charges are dropped. The restriction period is generally less. The USA version is 3 months usually no more than 6 - 12 whereas an ASBO can be years.
There are differences and I'd much rather have the USA version of an ASBO than the UK version. But, we do have ASBOs in our own flavor.
We have the same thing here in the USA but it goes by different names. The most obvious is a Restraining Order.
Not identical but very similar to an ASBO, Judges impose the same restrictions as ASBOs all the time in Juvenile Courts with what they call delayed charges. It's akin to blackmail. The way they work here is if the DA figures he has evidence to charge someone with a crime, he can delay making those charges if X, Y or Z conditions are met.
I've seen a Juvenile Court Judge delay a theft charge so long as the Juvenile didn't associate with several of his friends, didn't go to a certain home, was home by 10pm, etc. The charges would be delayed and dropped if the Juvenile obeyed the conditions. If not, the charges would be made and the Juvenile would have to answer for them.
The difference is in order to get to the point of having ASBO type of conditions placed upon you, there needs to be enough evidence of a crime that would allow a DA to hold the charges over your head. Some say that's a big difference, and others call it a fine line.
That's our protection, I suppose, that the State has to jump through a few more hoops to get the equivalent of an ASBO here in the USA but they do happen. And, at least in Juvenile Court they happen all the time.
This kind of Police abuse has been going on ever sense I've been alive. There's one difference today. The Internet, Forums, Blogs...
20 years ago this man would have sat in jail. He would have had his hearing, the charges probably dismissed and no one would have ever known about it.
The Police would have gone on with business as usual satisfied they'd screwed up his life and would wait for the next opportunity to do him harm.
Today, their phones are ringing, 100,000's of thousands of people are contemplating their actions, the lights are being turned on and the cockroaches are scattering.
If there's anything that's going to save our country is the balance and power we as citizens can employ. I suspect our forefathers would like the Internet very much.
I emailed that city counsel over that a$$hole who abused those web software designers. I emailed and called when I saw those videos from Florida where the police refused to give out a complaint form. I'm calling the numbers posted here on this forum and will let them know what I think about this guy being arrested.
Many are saying, "Why do we do something". Well... the fact you're reading this story *is* doing something about it. Now, pick up the phone and call. Write a letter of support. Let that police department know that the lights are on and we can see them.
My first reaction was anger when I read TFA. Then I considered what it meant in a way I could relate to my life.
What if my bank agreed to waive my mortgage in exchange for me keeping the grounds? Their motivation was to make money off my work in exchange. Perhaps to showcase the house to prospective clients.
After accepting their offer, what if I decided I'd work in the garden nude. Or, post signs in the yard complaining about the bank. If they came back and said that this was not part of the deal and either to stop or I'd have to start paying my mortgage again I think they'd have a point.
If this were to extend to the general population of the student body not receiving a free education in exchange then that's when I will think they've gone too far.
Only congress can pass new laws (in theory). And drug laws need strict definitions. As in, this particular molecular structure know as "XYZ" is illegal. Change the molecular structure and the new substance is not illegal. Every time a new designer drug was developed, congress would have to go through the process of creating a new law making that new substance illegal.
Nixon changed all that. He gave the Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services (which includes the Food and Drug Administration) power to create new law in what some call a side step around the Constitution.
Congress defined 5 categories of drugs. They also control the legality of each category. However, the categorization of a substance falls to the Justice Department and FDA. Now, a new designer drug comes out and the FDA is charged with categorizing it. They make it a Schedule 1. Wa-La, a new chemical becomes illegal. Some see this as a side step around the Consultation because it gives, in effect, the FDA law making powers reserved in the Constitution for Congress.
So the Schedules are less about science than politics. That's why a commercial drug from a powerful drug company with lots of lobby money gets fentanyl on schedule 2 even though it's more powerful than heroin on schedule 1. As if heroin has absolutely no medical value (profit) but fentanyl does?
Obligatory slashdot quote: They must be new here (to the USA).
By the time this is picked up by the media, PB will be back online. I *love* it.
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I'm with the minority with this one.
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Maybe I need to do some soul searching but I think what the buyer did was outstanding. Yet, at least at my moderation setting, comments are running 5 to 1 against the buyer.
Maybe it's because my home has been broken into 5 times by neighborhood kids. Or, that a box of checks was stolen and someone wrote $2000+ against my checking account. Or, that I've had my CC number stolen and everything from kitchen appliances and plane tickets were charged to my account. Maybe it's just because I'm sick and tired of the scum inhabiting this planet. But I think what the buyer did is great and we need more of it.
The light has been shown on this Amir guy for what he is. Public humiliation is a sensible, non-violent form of deterrent and socially acceptable. The police publish the names of "Johns" arrested for solicitation for all to see. Even the Bible supports public humiliation as a deterrent. The Bible says on judgment day all will be known and nothing hidden and exposed for all to see. Our (USA) and (English) early judicial systems used public square stocks and humiliation as a formal sentence.
The buyer has done his due diligence. All the documentation is there. The seller took 2 months to ship and only after repeated requests. The seller also agreed to refund the money once called on the fact the laptop was junk but then reneged. The seller was given multiple opportunities to correct the problem. He just wasn't interested because he knew he was scamming the guy.
I saw one post "If the guy kills himself, what a loss". A loss of what? The world would loose a scamming criminal who doesn't think twice about stealing other people's money? That's a loss I can bear.
Maybe, just maybe, this Amir guy will learn a valuable lesson from his fellow brothers that so far his religion has failed to teach him. Maybe Amir will pull his life together, get some morals and become a valuable member of our society. Maybe, just maybe he's been given a second chance to come clean and make it right.
My Mother use to get away with this all the time when I was a kid. I'd come home from school and with a "look" she'd say, I know what happened today at school." After 5 minutes defending myself I'd usually find myself grounded. It took years before I figured it out.
I doubt this same strategy will work with IBM. SCO says, here's a list of files. You know what you did wrong. Go to the developers, discuss it amongst yourselves and come back with your defense.
Blind? I read TFA. Quote:
A partisan divide pitting Republicans against Democrats on the question of Internet regulation appears to be deepening.
A Republican-controlled House Energy and Commerce subcommittee on Wednesday defeated a proposal that would have levied extensive regulations on broadband providers and forcibly prevented them from offering higher-speed video services to partners or affiliates.
More proof people see what they want to see in spite of the facts.
The sole purpose of the bombings and firebombs in WWII were designed to cause mass destruction upon the civilian population of Tokyo Japan by your definition makes the US a terrorist government. You're probably right.
I obviously do not think like a terrorist. I know I'm going to die in a suicide bombing next week and with the small amount of money I have left I do what? Pay down my credit card debt?
This can be looked at by turning the tables against AOL.
When SBC wanted to charge Google for "using their bandwidth for free", I always thought Google's response could have been, "If your ISP is throttling the connection you're paying for, here's a list of ISPs that give you what you're paying for."
I wonder if this can be turned around on AOL by saying if you sign-up for their service, they won't let our emails through. If this is not okay with you, here's a list of service providers that provide you with full service.
The only way this will become acceptable is if the consumer agrees with it and there are service providers to choose from that do not do this.
I recently web ordered a security camera and ignored the additional accessories page. The website had a 100' video cable for $18 and a power supply for $10. In a pinch to install the camera I go to Radio Shack.
Radio Shack had a 6' cable for $16. I would have needed 16 of them and 15 connectors to equal the 100' at a cost of $331.00. Not that I would have gone that route but still...
And then there was the power supply. Radio Shack wanted almost $20. We ended up with a different solution that "only" cost me $50 rather than the $28 it would have cost from the original supplier of the camera. And at that I only got 50' not the 100'.
I'll absorb some premium for the convenience and personalized service but not almost a 100% increase for half the product. I only concluded the sale because I needed it fast.
I left the store feeling ripped off. And that's a very difficult feeling to market or promote out of your customers. A once loyal fan of RS I'm not even sure I'll go there the next time I'm in a pinch.
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Yes it does, so stop minimizing the threat.
Define obscene and then define lascivious. If the genitals or pubic area of any person is in the photograph, either will get you arrested.
Being the Supreme Court can't define what these two words mean do you really think an honest discourse with the arresting officer, who's up for promotion, will have any effect?
First, the arresting officer isn't the determining factor defining the above. With todays zero tolerance and his desire to make detective if he/she sees them, you're going down. Second, neither is the DA, who's also up for promotion. All he cares about is a conviction. If there's ANY chance those bathroom pictures fall within the communities MAYBE could be porn, you're going to trial.
I've seen some of the pictures people have been convicted by. The kid was just leaning against a tree. It looked like a vacation picture from a nudist camp in Europe. He was looking at 15 years on that one photograph alone.
So, if you don't have a home to mortgage or the means to make $75k in bail plus the $50k retainer for an attorney, you're going to rot in jail while the DA makes up his mind to prosecute. If he does, and he probably will, you're in for a long and expensive fight. If he doesn't, in my state, you're soon going to be forced to register as a sex offender from the arrest alone even without a conviction.
What gets me the most are people who ignore the realities around them. I say again to whomever had the pictures. Burn them. Protect yourself and your family.
"I know what you mean, I've seen pictures of myself taking a bath as a baby. BTW, I still have those pictures; does that make me guilty of possessing child porn ?"
Assuming you live in the USA, yes it does. It doesn't matter who the subject of the photograph is, only the age. In fact a 15yr girl took pictures of herself and sent them out in emails. She was subsequently arrested and charged with production, possession and distribution of CP.
I strongly suggest you remove those photos from your possession and burn them. If you decide to hide them in your attic or unused dresser drawer then never, ever agree or submit to a search without a warrant. If some routine event causes the police to stumble across them be prepared for a long expensive fight with jail time. Very unpleasant jail time I might add http://www.spr.org/.
People who accidentally downloaded CP from newsgroups who then attached the
Warranted or not, right or wrong, you are a felon. Protect yourself.
Netflix is doing a marketing research thing in my area. I've agreed to meet with them in person for 30 minutes next week in exchange for 4 months free service. Now along with their throttling I'll have something else to hit them with.
Any suggestions of other stuff you'd want them to know or have your complaints heard through me? I'd be glad to bring it forward.
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My home was broken into three times, three days in a row. It was neighborhood kids.
I wasn't getting anywhere with the police. First the cop would take a report then a detective would come out and look around. I could tell by their tone that they weren't going to do anything about it. Not, that is, until the third time. Do you know what changed their mind?
While the detectives were there trying to make it look like they were doing something I faked a call to work and pretended to leave a message that I wasn't coming in the next day. Then I faked a call to a friend asking if I could borrow his "weapon" and that I needed it that night. I turned to the cops and said, they've come in three times, three days in a row, and they're coming back. It's my right and I'm going to protect my property.
On their way out they were visibly upset. They were convinced there was going to be a blood bath the next day. I got a call 4 hours later that they caught and arrested the boys responsible. 4 hours. And that was after they were already booked and in custody. The arrests had to have been at least and hour or two earlier.
The detective kept telling me I could go to work after all, blah, blah. It really was the thought of me hiding in ambush that got these police to do their job. It took all but 2-3 hours for them to find and arrest these boys. It took me lying and convincing them I was going to shoot the next person who walked through my door to get them to do it.
This is one of those bluffs that probably only works once in a lifetime but it worked.
This is how I read his tone:
I don't know why they keep hounding me. I robbed that bank five years ago and they're still drumming up old business trying to search me out. All they're doing is hurting my family and other innocent people. The money is already spent, it's not like they're going to get any of it back. Why don't they just leave well enough alone. It's like they're on a Which Hunt. Besides, I learned my lesson. The next time I won't empty the whole safe; I'll leave some for the next guy. Truly, they should just forget the whole thing and let me get on with my life.
This reminds me of an old TV show SLIDERS episode where the on that particular world lawyers out numbered the population like 20 to 1.
When one of the actors went to order a burger he was asked to provide a release from his doctor. If he wanted cheese or an order of fries he have to also provide a cholesterol screening, etc.
I wonder how the USA would fare if we curtailed things that actually killed us. 300,000 people die each year from heart problems. I think we'd save more lives if we were to declare on cholesterol. For that matter, twice as many people die each year crossing the street than in 9/11. If 3,000 people being murdered is a travesty (it is), why isn't it even worse when 10 times that many have been murdered from the resulting war?
Yes, bad anti-social people are a problem to be dealt with. That's why we have a judicial system and jails. I see no reason to eliminate or even curtail civil liberties to solve problems when statically I have a greater chance of being struck by lightning.
These low statistics are not a result of my fine government doing such a great job with new patriot type laws. The very nature of terrorism just doesn't allow for the wide spread death and destruction that drunk drivers cause. Terrorism is localized and limited in scope but designed for maximum mental effect. Our un-modified Constitution and former freedom respecting laws would have been ample to deal with these sociopaths.
At least with me they haven't even come close to winning. By they I include both the terrorists and the governments who exasperate fear.
I have much greater risks to my life to consider. Like whether or not on my way home from work a drunk driver will swerve into my lane. After all, it happens to 50,000 good citizens every each and every year.
I truly am unafraid. I am a fragile bag of mostly water. Life has risks. They need to be managed with a clear head.
MHO
I don't know the specific law or if it really exists but I have heard that police quotas for things like tickets are illegal.
I worked with a guy who was an ex-cop. I asked him about it one day. I think he confirmed that quotas were illegal. He then went on to say when he was hired his Sergeant told him,
"You make 27K a year... Just to let you know, that comes to about two tickets a day. All I'm here to say is to let you know that I'm not going to loose money on you."
It sounded like it was one of those "do the math" conversations.
Wow! You're smart. Boy, you sure got me there, you win. Feel better?
Where I'm at, USA, Bellsouth, Comcast, the gas and electric companies all asked for SSN as an identifier to get service. I've never tried not giving it to see if I could still get service. Maybe next time I'll ask if that's an option.
"Please post the link(s) to any stories proving the family/police theft story. ...huge stretch, made with a flimsy offhand reference."
It's not that people make flimsy, offhanded remarks. The problem is you're either too lazy or too stupid to keep up with current events or do your own homework. Stop asking for "proof" when with a little effort you can learn these things yourself. Thank charge of your own education and quit asking to be spoon fed. I'll make a guess who you voted for, LoL.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snit ch/readings/hidden.html
http://www.reconsider.org/tidbits/2000-05-31%20Sur e%20sounds%20like%20stealing%20to%20me_.htm
For example, a traffic stop in the Texas Panhandle last week resulted in seizure of more than $32,000 in cash, reported the Amarillo Globe News: Troopers pulled over a Pontiac sedan for speeding about 5:30 p.m. Friday, reports show. The driver consented to a search, and a drug dog found more than $32,800 in the trunk of the car. A drug dog alerting to cash suggests that drugs may have been in contact with the money at some time, according to DPS. The cash was for
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/50450_assets13 .shtml
I live in the USA and IANAL but in a similar situation I had one tell me "Call their bluff". Her advice was that they can say anything they want. Backing it up is something completely different.
I did the same thing. It went to collections and I disputed it. Within the 30-day period it came off and never showed up again. It burns a bridge. It may have come off collections but they'll keep records. I'll never be able to call and get service from them again unless or until it's paid. That is unless when they ask for a SSN I give them a made up number. I suppose if I were to do that I'd want to keep the last four numbers the same.
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These same arguments were made when ATMs first came out.
"Am I going to get a discount for not going into the bank and using a teller?"
Now bank tellers are pretty much non-existent and to add injury to insult not only is there no discount you have to pay a surcharge to get money from the ATM. Self-checkout lanes will grow to become the norm; soon assisted checkout will no longer exist.
Car insurance companies have already implemented in some states giving discounts to customers if they install black boxes that monitor their driving. Today it's optional. Soon you won't be able to get insurance without one. After they establish that they'll move to the next logical course of action. They wont cover your accident if you were X% over the speed limit.
This is defined either as progress or that we're are Frogs in ever increasing water temperature.
Once, drug related property seizure laws affected only the drug lords. On I75 that runs from Florida up to Canada, cars are stopped and if you have what the officer thinks is too much cash he takes it. Doesn't matter if you're with your family and have tickets to Disney Land, that 3,000 in cash becomes property of the police and to get it back have to prove it's not drug money.
This is defined either as progress or that we're Sheep.
From ATMs, to self-checkout, drug related property seizure to you name it... This is the direction we're headed. A lot of you won't use self-checkout. But you will. In your lifetime it will become that there will be no other option available.
"In the case of delayed charges, the person has been convicted in criminal court..."
Not exactly. I'm not disagreeing with you that it's worse in the U.K. but they have not been convicted. The charges have been delayed.
1. Grand Jury (Optional)
2. D.A Presses Charges
3. Arraignment
4. Bail
5. Pre-trial
6. Discovery
7. Trail
8.
These adolescents are intercepted between steps 2 and 3. Charges are not "formal" until the arraignment. The D.A. can charge anybody with anything for any reason. Including for evidence that would be thrown out later on in the process.
What the Judges are doing, in conjunction with the D.A and police, are charging adolescents but during the arraignment postponing making the charges official pending the defendant doing x, y or z as I explained.
In many ways this is an ASBO.
Granted, if the defendant follows the courts restrictions, that can be anything the judge dreams up, the charges are dropped. The restriction period is generally less. The USA version is 3 months usually no more than 6 - 12 whereas an ASBO can be years.
There are differences and I'd much rather have the USA version of an ASBO than the UK version. But, we do have ASBOs in our own flavor.
We have the same thing here in the USA but it goes by different names. The most obvious is a Restraining Order.
Not identical but very similar to an ASBO, Judges impose the same restrictions as ASBOs all the time in Juvenile Courts with what they call delayed charges. It's akin to blackmail. The way they work here is if the DA figures he has evidence to charge someone with a crime, he can delay making those charges if X, Y or Z conditions are met.
I've seen a Juvenile Court Judge delay a theft charge so long as the Juvenile didn't associate with several of his friends, didn't go to a certain home, was home by 10pm, etc. The charges would be delayed and dropped if the Juvenile obeyed the conditions. If not, the charges would be made and the Juvenile would have to answer for them.
The difference is in order to get to the point of having ASBO type of conditions placed upon you, there needs to be enough evidence of a crime that would allow a DA to hold the charges over your head. Some say that's a big difference, and others call it a fine line.
That's our protection, I suppose, that the State has to jump through a few more hoops to get the equivalent of an ASBO here in the USA but they do happen. And, at least in Juvenile Court they happen all the time.
This kind of Police abuse has been going on ever sense I've been alive. There's one difference today. The Internet, Forums, Blogs...
20 years ago this man would have sat in jail. He would have had his hearing, the charges probably dismissed and no one would have ever known about it.
The Police would have gone on with business as usual satisfied they'd screwed up his life and would wait for the next opportunity to do him harm.
Today, their phones are ringing, 100,000's of thousands of people are contemplating their actions, the lights are being turned on and the cockroaches are scattering.
If there's anything that's going to save our country is the balance and power we as citizens can employ. I suspect our forefathers would like the Internet very much.
I emailed that city counsel over that a$$hole who abused those web software designers. I emailed and called when I saw those videos from Florida where the police refused to give out a complaint form. I'm calling the numbers posted here on this forum and will let them know what I think about this guy being arrested.
Many are saying, "Why do we do something". Well... the fact you're reading this story *is* doing something about it. Now, pick up the phone and call. Write a letter of support. Let that police department know that the lights are on and we can see them.
This is how changes are made.
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My first reaction was anger when I read TFA. Then I considered what it meant in a way I could relate to my life.
What if my bank agreed to waive my mortgage in exchange for me keeping the grounds? Their motivation was to make money off my work in exchange. Perhaps to showcase the house to prospective clients.
After accepting their offer, what if I decided I'd work in the garden nude. Or, post signs in the yard complaining about the bank. If they came back and said that this was not part of the deal and either to stop or I'd have to start paying my mortgage again I think they'd have a point.
If this were to extend to the general population of the student body not receiving a free education in exchange then that's when I will think they've gone too far.
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The confusion is that the schedules were designed for the "War n Drugs". Before 1970 and the controlled substance act, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substance
Only congress can pass new laws (in theory). And drug laws need strict definitions. As in, this particular molecular structure know as "XYZ" is illegal. Change the molecular structure and the new substance is not illegal. Every time a new designer drug was developed, congress would have to go through the process of creating a new law making that new substance illegal.
Nixon changed all that. He gave the Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services (which includes the Food and Drug Administration) power to create new law in what some call a side step around the Constitution.
Congress defined 5 categories of drugs. They also control the legality of each category. However, the categorization of a substance falls to the Justice Department and FDA. Now, a new designer drug comes out and the FDA is charged with categorizing it. They make it a Schedule 1. Wa-La, a new chemical becomes illegal. Some see this as a side step around the Consultation because it gives, in effect, the FDA law making powers reserved in the Constitution for Congress.
So the Schedules are less about science than politics. That's why a commercial drug from a powerful drug company with lots of lobby money gets fentanyl on schedule 2 even though it's more powerful than heroin on schedule 1. As if heroin has absolutely no medical value (profit) but fentanyl does?
Obligatory slashdot quote: They must be new here (to the USA).
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PDF Warning: MPAA Gleefully Issues Press Release Detailing the "Sinking of Pirate Bay"
http://www.mpaa.org/press_releases/2006_05_31.pdf
By the time this is picked up by the media, PB will be back online. I *love* it.
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Maybe I need to do some soul searching but I think what the buyer did was outstanding. Yet, at least at my moderation setting, comments are running 5 to 1 against the buyer.
Maybe it's because my home has been broken into 5 times by neighborhood kids. Or, that a box of checks was stolen and someone wrote $2000+ against my checking account. Or, that I've had my CC number stolen and everything from kitchen appliances and plane tickets were charged to my account. Maybe it's just because I'm sick and tired of the scum inhabiting this planet. But I think what the buyer did is great and we need more of it.
The light has been shown on this Amir guy for what he is. Public humiliation is a sensible, non-violent form of deterrent and socially acceptable. The police publish the names of "Johns" arrested for solicitation for all to see. Even the Bible supports public humiliation as a deterrent. The Bible says on judgment day all will be known and nothing hidden and exposed for all to see. Our (USA) and (English) early judicial systems used public square stocks and humiliation as a formal sentence.
The buyer has done his due diligence. All the documentation is there. The seller took 2 months to ship and only after repeated requests. The seller also agreed to refund the money once called on the fact the laptop was junk but then reneged. The seller was given multiple opportunities to correct the problem. He just wasn't interested because he knew he was scamming the guy.
I saw one post "If the guy kills himself, what a loss". A loss of what? The world would loose a scamming criminal who doesn't think twice about stealing other people's money? That's a loss I can bear.
Maybe, just maybe, this Amir guy will learn a valuable lesson from his fellow brothers that so far his religion has failed to teach him. Maybe Amir will pull his life together, get some morals and become a valuable member of our society. Maybe, just maybe he's been given a second chance to come clean and make it right.
JMHO
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My Mother use to get away with this all the time when I was a kid. I'd come home from school and with a "look" she'd say, I know what happened today at school." After 5 minutes defending myself I'd usually find myself grounded. It took years before I figured it out.
I doubt this same strategy will work with IBM. SCO says, here's a list of files. You know what you did wrong. Go to the developers, discuss it amongst yourselves and come back with your defense.
It isn't going to work. IBM is all growed up.
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Blind? I read TFA. Quote:
A partisan divide pitting Republicans against Democrats on the question of Internet regulation appears to be deepening.
A Republican-controlled House Energy and Commerce subcommittee on Wednesday defeated a proposal that would have levied extensive regulations on broadband providers and forcibly prevented them from offering higher-speed video services to partners or affiliates.
More proof people see what they want to see in spite of the facts.
The sole purpose of the bombings and firebombs in WWII were designed to cause mass destruction upon the civilian population of Tokyo Japan by your definition makes the US a terrorist government. You're probably right.
I obviously do not think like a terrorist. I know I'm going to die in a suicide bombing next week and with the small amount of money I have left I do what? Pay down my credit card debt?
This can be looked at by turning the tables against AOL.
When SBC wanted to charge Google for "using their bandwidth for free", I always thought Google's response could have been, "If your ISP is throttling the connection you're paying for, here's a list of ISPs that give you what you're paying for."
I wonder if this can be turned around on AOL by saying if you sign-up for their service, they won't let our emails through. If this is not okay with you, here's a list of service providers that provide you with full service.
The only way this will become acceptable is if the consumer agrees with it and there are service providers to choose from that do not do this.
I recently web ordered a security camera and ignored the additional accessories page. The website had a 100' video cable for $18 and a power supply for $10. In a pinch to install the camera I go to Radio Shack.
Radio Shack had a 6' cable for $16. I would have needed 16 of them and 15 connectors to equal the 100' at a cost of $331.00. Not that I would have gone that route but still...
And then there was the power supply. Radio Shack wanted almost $20. We ended up with a different solution that "only" cost me $50 rather than the $28 it would have cost from the original supplier of the camera. And at that I only got 50' not the 100'.
I'll absorb some premium for the convenience and personalized service but not almost a 100% increase for half the product. I only concluded the sale because I needed it fast.
I left the store feeling ripped off. And that's a very difficult feeling to market or promote out of your customers. A once loyal fan of RS I'm not even sure I'll go there the next time I'm in a pinch.