If its "bog standard British English" and Ill take your word it is , when did its usage in England/Britan become widespread ? pre 1930 ? or after that, is it a more modern adaptaiton of a brand name like Kleenex is here ? Or chapstick, both post 1935 named adaptations based on popular brand names here in the states
I have often heard of people here call diapers "pampers" actually a significan number, even though they may not be talking of theat brand
Honestly Curious....
I remember the first time I was in England, London...I was 15 and out on the town from Flemming Hotel with my brother our transit pass in hand , we decided to call it a night and head back and watch some "TV" we bought 2 6 packs of something someone told us to try , beer and lemonade, whats that called ?...And we had a heck of a time finding pretzels and chips (the deep fried american variety) Bread Twists Potato Crisps I think the bags said....
I often think I would like to retire to the Anscestreal Home, but the weather play havok with my joints, ah well maybe by the time Im old enough to retire global warming will have made England a Tropical Paradise and dried up some of the rain ( last 3 times I was there was in EARLY spring, my knees hurt just thinking about it.
Hmm never heard that one.....and my Grandparents (From England) certainly NEVER called a Diaper a Nappy....must be coloquiel english....or maybe my family was just too proper to say Nappy....
Yeah or TOASTED NUTS , depending on where you actually use your laptop....
Chestnuts roasing on an open fire.....
But seriously I Hold my laptop on my legs (away from my nuts) but now Ive got an 802 preN Even that make me nervous I swear I feel em tingling only when the card is active, my wife says it because Ive got balls of steel and its the RF Interferance, maybe true but how long before the get roasted my em radiation....
Spy satelites are most usefull chasing guys around whos kids toys get swapped at the store for some digital movie of a top level spook killing a senator, happens all the time
and they of course can see right through wall and stuff.
I suggest you look at the link the other fellow posted about this exact smae thing happeneing
What you didnt take into account is something VERY Important, HWT Usually leak at the bottom , why ? because of the caustic buildup of minerals, sulfur, calcium , etc, that weakens the BOTTOM of the tank, in an overrun situation there can easily be a buildup of pressure that exceeds the flow of both the T&P and the Drain Valve (Even plastic will hold up to around 500-100 PSI (even thought typically rated at 250) Brass, hell Ive seen 1000 psi several times, (makes you want to duck just being near it but it happens) and yes I am talking about the household 3/4 or 1 inch variety.
"A much more likely scenario is for the water tank to leak, causing a short circuit which will either trip the breaker or start a fire" They are common as well (in the sense of HWT failures, Adding all these items together make a HWT, THE SINGLE MOST DANGEROUS Item in a house, HWT Are typically drafted and not power vented, (some newere ones are) But also take into account the age of the average HWT is 20 years old, thats alot of weak bottoms and frozen t&p valves. I never said it was common, I said it happens, it was meant to be a simple illustration of exactly the amount of force that can be unleased by steam , STEAM the thing everyone thinks is so Quaint and Harmless...my ass....
Well, when I was an apprentice in the Union , Some 14 years back, there was a great film of it we all watched
Ive seen boilers blow inder the same conditons a blocked or plugged T&P, no expansion tank and BOOM, off the go, in the case of a HWT , the bottoms are the first to weaken due to corrosive sediments, hence the bottoms will blow out sending it upward like a friggin rocke (In the films, they plugged the T&P and fixed the thermostat so it would do exactly this), if he dosent agree, maybe he ought to find a new profession, as it was usually after following those fellows I would see a T&P blocked with a plug, or no spray pipe attached.
Not here in Akron , Local 219 is BOTH , thank you very much..... The nice thing is I can go anywhere on either card if I want:)
Significantly , hydraulic pressure for one.
Fuel dosnet burn unless exposed to air, fuel fire are usually just that, although gasoline does have a habbit of exploding, only the gas vapor that is mixed with air will, the rest does what ? burns...
Also a Gas Tank isnt that tough and it will rupture easily, that actually a good thin if a spark inside it ignites it readily blows apart and burns, OTOH a couple of hundred psi and trapped then released at once in a thick vessel causes one heck of a dangerous explosion.
Uhhh, you have no idea what you are talking about then, the amount of ice that was a result of that steam in winter months in urban areas, London, etc, was a serious hazard.
Think of living in a steam bath, summer too, the water vapor created its own thermal blanket layer, and in some areas was responsible for a reduction in wildlife (See moths and other insect), uhhhh its called thermal polution and YES its a problem zippy.
The steam pollution also acts as a medium for bacterial and fungal propgation.
Are you REALLY That shor sighted that you dont see that ? Or are you so short sighted as to ignore past events ?
Steam and Electric are obviously nothing new, the first Car to break 100 mph was I belive electric.
Steam , like electric has several DISADVANTAGES as well, The was a time, when steam engines didnt reclain their steam that steam polution caused great enviromental issues with their condensate.
In addition high pressuer steam is DANGEROUS, and any vehicle designed would need to take that into account, think of the danger to the occupants of a vehicle whose boiler explodes.
For a take on this take a Hot Water heater, it is actually (gas or electric) the MOST Dangerous item in you hous a blocked T&P (Temperature and Pressure relief valve) with a tank in ovverun condition can catapult a Hot water tank through a 3 story house to a height of 100 ft, yup thats right, just like those little red plastic water rockets you had as a kid.
I was a union plumber and pipefitter, my specialty was in steam, I can tell you while the average goober might see great potential they seldom see the very real dangers of steam, steam to most seem innocent enough, just look at some of the deaths associate with steam engines recently, This even happened about 10 miles from my home an hourt after I left. Here and Here , and the fellow who owned and operated this was FAMILIAR with these risks, from burns to boiler failures, its not something to screw with unless you know what youre doing, and even then it will leave you suspicious
Hey there were experiments using organics as microprocessors back in the late 70's early 80's (As I am sure there still are) MOLD on creamed coffee was one they actually tried. I dont remeber the magazine as I read many but it was from 1978-1983 in Byte, Popular Mechanics, Pop-Sci- Pop-Ele- or Radio Electronics, maybe someone else remembers
I was trying to figure out how to phrase the exact portion of political types who would be reactionary in nature, radical cam to mind first but in afterthought your position is agreed
No, and it wasnt the "Terrorist" I was worried about, the people who wish to do something harmful are very resourceful and will find a way, period.
I have read the works of Che and others as I have a solid interest in military history, Where there is a will there is a way, and to be quite honest I am suprised we have not seen a terrorist detonation of a nuke, dirty bomb, or biological (they must be either a little dumber than I give them credit for, or b, even have their own limits, which I doubt)
What I am talking about are all the morons in DC that think passing new laws to stifle freedom is doing a public service.
Most of those morons (i.e Politicians) would have never in their own feeble minds drawn a link between a project like this and "Terrorism", not until some other moron did it for them.
I am not talking about stifling freedom of speach either (as a lower post says), I am saying some things are better left unsaid, and asking if this could be used a a terrorist tool was one of them, let them try to draw their own links, dont give them (the politicians) extra fuel for the "If you complain about us taking freedom away to protect against terrorists you are being unamerican" bandwagon fire
Christ almighty, I am the original poster and although I went into monor depth of my probelms, does NOONE else know how a gall bladder works ?
NO Bile comes from the gall bladder, NONE ZIP ZILCH, It all comes from the LIVER ITSELF
Background: My son had a liver transplant at 9months old, the cause billiary atresia, he also had deuodonal atresia but that was resolved surgically the day after he was born, My son had a Kasai procedure done where they yank the gall bladder and loop the intestine around the liver to bypass the bile ducts (they are gone from the billiary atresia)
This was done at one month old so he could get to a year to 18 months without a transplant but it didnt work (it only does in about 30% of cases) The final cause of his liver failure was PBC or Primary Billiary Cirhossis, caused by a bile back up in the liver (but REMEBER that was removed at one month old on him)We tried synthetic polar bear bile for some 8 months which he would take orally it helps to thin out the the bile his liver produced in an attempt to flcuh that from his liver, it worked somewhat , bu in the end neither that nor phenobarbitol (also used for its effect on bile production) helped.
I can live without my gall bladder if my son and wife can, if the pain gets too bad Ill have it yanked,
But I repeat no bile is produced by the gall bladder, it simply HOLDS it after the liver has produced it (bile is also one of the ways the liver flushes toxins
Seriously, I am on Cipro , second time for a bout of prostatitis myself, I waqs experiencing night sweats, heart pains and most disturbingly severe liver pain, after a ton of tests everything was Ok except I was still fevered and had the liver pain, all kinds of unexplainable and very serious seeming symptoms,
It turned out that My GALL Bladder is pretty much DOA , The coincidental timing with my prostatits was just bad luck.
I also have Reiter's Syndrome which can cause ALL Kinds of seemingly unrelated symptoms (INCLUDING HEART) AND IT generally goes hand in hand with prostatits in younger (under 40) men,
Mine was caused from a very serious bout as in nearly dead, case of Campylobacter.
Now I have just regined myself to taking lots of NSAIDS, for the arthritis part (but as many broken bones as I ve had its hard to tell if its from those or this) and dealin with a bout of the big P every other year or so. he heart issues are serious but treatable.
Agreed the Energia is the best design out there at current, I keep hearing people talk about re-building the Saturn V program , WHY ? Yes it was good, but the Energia is much better for the same given role (and a heck of a lot shorter too:)
After reading a very good book on all kinds of Physics experiments from the late 50's I decided to build a linear accelerator, I lived on a farm at the time and all the needed materials were at hand (as well as a fully equipped machine shop) it was roughly 40ft long and ran along side the chiken coop my grandad thought I was nuts, my dad thought it was great, I had fun with it for about a week until popping fuses annoyed my grandad to the point he said scrap it.
Who remebers when they were going to try the exact same thing with Solaris 7 ? I was so pumped I seriously considered a migration plan from our then RH 5.2 systems to Solaris.
One comment from USENET I will NEVER forget was from a fellow who upon hearing of Sun opening the source to solaris said "Now I can open it up look at the code and figure out why the hell its soo damm slow, alas I can die a happy man" I busted out laughing because that was my initial reaction too.
BUT The stability and security experience were great with 2.5.1 I couldnt have ever asked for more. I think I will always have a soft spot for solaris after a 2 year admin stint with 2.5.1
Some one else watched too much Law and Order for this to be today's posting.
But to the question posed F*** NO !
All it takes is one little perf in the membrane and that batch is contaminated, whats wrong with desalination of sea water for bringing water to the masses ? Yeah it requires energy , but solar is GREAT for it, this requires energy too, is it cost effective ?
After reading the article I feel like I should preface it by saying, I am MajorDicks rising anger, when people write about themselves in the 3rd person for obvioulsy misleading resons it drivers me batty.
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Hmm, I am seriously curious
...I was 15 and out on the town from Flemming Hotel with my brother our transit pass in hand , we decided to call it a night and head back and watch some "TV" we bought 2 6 packs of something someone told us to try , beer and lemonade, whats that called ? ...And we had a heck of a time finding pretzels and chips (the deep fried american variety) Bread Twists Potato Crisps I think the bags said....
If its "bog standard British English" and Ill take your word it is , when did its usage in England/Britan become widespread ? pre 1930 ? or after that, is it a more modern adaptaiton of a brand name like Kleenex is here ? Or chapstick, both post 1935 named adaptations based on popular brand names here in the states
I have often heard of people here call diapers "pampers" actually a significan number, even though they may not be talking of theat brand
Honestly Curious....
I remember the first time I was in England, London
I often think I would like to retire to the Anscestreal Home, but the weather play havok with my joints, ah well maybe by the time Im old enough to retire global warming will have made England a Tropical Paradise and dried up some of the rain ( last 3 times I was there was in EARLY spring, my knees hurt just thinking about it.
Hmm never heard that one.....and my Grandparents (From England) certainly NEVER called a Diaper a Nappy....must be coloquiel english....or maybe my family was just too proper to say Nappy....
Uh im from accross the pond.....what is a nappie ?
Seriously......
Yeah or TOASTED NUTS , depending on where you actually use your laptop....
Chestnuts roasing on an open fire.....
But seriously I Hold my laptop on my legs (away from my nuts) but now Ive got an 802 preN Even that make me nervous I swear I feel em tingling only when the card is active, my wife says it because Ive got balls of steel and its the RF Interferance, maybe true but how long before the get roasted my em radiation....
I mean like didnt yall see Enemy of the State ?
Spy satelites are most usefull chasing guys around whos kids toys get swapped at the store for some digital movie of a top level spook killing a senator, happens all the time
and they of course can see right through wall and stuff.
Hehe me too, that gonna be one vapor cloud thats welcome to see, as in no more French, one can only dream..
Other than Wine or Women (Even then most of the Wine and Women are borderline foul)
I mean, hey maybe they'll throw in Citeron or Puegot, or how abour Renault....bwaaahhhh,
Sorry something about french and engineering in the same concept just eludes me.
I suggest you look at the link the other fellow posted about this exact smae thing happeneing
What you didnt take into account is something VERY Important, HWT Usually leak at the bottom , why ? because of the caustic buildup of minerals, sulfur, calcium , etc, that weakens the BOTTOM of the tank, in an overrun situation there can easily be a buildup of pressure that exceeds the flow of both the T&P and the Drain Valve (Even plastic will hold up to around 500-100 PSI (even thought typically rated at 250) Brass, hell Ive seen 1000 psi several times, (makes you want to duck just being near it but it happens) and yes I am talking about the household 3/4 or 1 inch variety.
"A much more likely scenario is for the water tank to leak, causing a short circuit which will either trip the breaker or start a fire" They are common as well (in the sense of HWT failures, Adding all these items together make a HWT, THE SINGLE MOST DANGEROUS Item in a house, HWT Are typically drafted and not power vented, (some newere ones are) But also take into account the age of the average HWT is 20 years old, thats alot of weak bottoms and frozen t&p valves. I never said it was common, I said it happens, it was meant to be a simple illustration of exactly the amount of force that can be unleased by steam , STEAM the thing everyone thinks is so Quaint and Harmless...my ass....
Well, when I was an apprentice in the Union , Some 14 years back, there was a great film of it we all watched
:)
Ive seen boilers blow inder the same conditons a blocked or plugged T&P, no expansion tank and BOOM, off the go, in the case of a HWT , the bottoms are the first to weaken due to corrosive sediments, hence the bottoms will blow out sending it upward like a friggin rocke (In the films, they plugged the T&P and fixed the thermostat so it would do exactly this), if he dosent agree, maybe he ought to find a new profession, as it was usually after following those fellows I would see a T&P blocked with a plug, or no spray pipe attached.
Not here in Akron , Local 219 is BOTH , thank you very much..... The nice thing is I can go anywhere on either card if I want
Significantly , hydraulic pressure for one. Fuel dosnet burn unless exposed to air, fuel fire are usually just that, although gasoline does have a habbit of exploding, only the gas vapor that is mixed with air will, the rest does what ? burns...
Also a Gas Tank isnt that tough and it will rupture easily, that actually a good thin if a spark inside it ignites it readily blows apart and burns, OTOH a couple of hundred psi and trapped then released at once in a thick vessel causes one heck of a dangerous explosion.
Uhhh, you have no idea what you are talking about then, the amount of ice that was a result of that steam in winter months in urban areas, London, etc, was a serious hazard.
Think of living in a steam bath, summer too, the water vapor created its own thermal blanket layer, and in some areas was responsible for a reduction in wildlife (See moths and other insect), uhhhh its called thermal polution and YES its a problem zippy.
The steam pollution also acts as a medium for bacterial and fungal propgation.
Are you REALLY That shor sighted that you dont see that ? Or are you so short sighted as to ignore past events ?
Steam and Electric are obviously nothing new, the first Car to break 100 mph was I belive electric.
Steam , like electric has several DISADVANTAGES as well, The was a time, when steam engines didnt reclain their steam that steam polution caused great enviromental issues with their condensate.
In addition high pressuer steam is DANGEROUS, and any vehicle designed would need to take that into account, think of the danger to the occupants of a vehicle whose boiler explodes.
For a take on this take a Hot Water heater, it is actually (gas or electric) the MOST Dangerous item in you hous a blocked T&P (Temperature and Pressure relief valve) with a tank in ovverun condition can catapult a Hot water tank through a 3 story house to a height of 100 ft, yup thats right, just like those little red plastic water rockets you had as a kid.
I was a union plumber and pipefitter, my specialty was in steam, I can tell you while the average goober might see great potential they seldom see the very real dangers of steam, steam to most seem innocent enough, just look at some of the deaths associate with steam engines recently, This even happened about 10 miles from my home an hourt after I left. Here and Here , and the fellow who owned and operated this was FAMILIAR with these risks, from burns to boiler failures, its not something to screw with unless you know what youre doing, and even then it will leave you suspicious
Hey there were experiments using organics as microprocessors back in the late 70's early 80's (As I am sure there still are) MOLD on creamed coffee was one they actually tried. I dont remeber the magazine as I read many but it was from 1978-1983 in Byte, Popular Mechanics, Pop-Sci- Pop-Ele- or Radio Electronics, maybe someone else remembers
Point taken,
I was trying to figure out how to phrase the exact portion of political types who would be reactionary in nature, radical cam to mind first but in afterthought your position is agreed
No, and it wasnt the "Terrorist" I was worried about, the people who wish to do something harmful are very resourceful and will find a way, period.
I have read the works of Che and others as I have a solid interest in military history, Where there is a will there is a way, and to be quite honest I am suprised we have not seen a terrorist detonation of a nuke, dirty bomb, or biological (they must be either a little dumber than I give them credit for, or b, even have their own limits, which I doubt)
What I am talking about are all the morons in DC that think passing new laws to stifle freedom is doing a public service.
Most of those morons (i.e Politicians) would have never in their own feeble minds drawn a link between a project like this and "Terrorism", not until some other moron did it for them.
I am not talking about stifling freedom of speach either (as a lower post says), I am saying some things are better left unsaid, and asking if this could be used a a terrorist tool was one of them, let them try to draw their own links, dont give them (the politicians) extra fuel for the "If you complain about us taking freedom away to protect against terrorists you are being unamerican" bandwagon fire
How long will it be before people see it as a possible terrorist tool ?
I dono but I sure as hell would have never thought iti until YOU brought it up.
Somtimes things are best left unsaid , especially in a world of paranoid radicals that will look for ANY reason to take your freedoms away,
To that end you hve just been very helpfull in giving them ammuntion, you should congratulate yourself.
Not just a little wind a LOT of wind with "storms" being clocked in excess of 200mph (Actually I think much higher)
Ill be honest I always wondered how the planned to keep the rovers upright if one of these storms ran accross the area
Or are the regional to mars , as in equitorial, polar what ?
Christ almighty, I am the original poster and although I went into monor depth of my probelms, does NOONE else know how a gall bladder works ?
NO Bile comes from the gall bladder, NONE ZIP ZILCH, It all comes from the LIVER ITSELF
Background: My son had a liver transplant at 9months old, the cause billiary atresia, he also had deuodonal atresia but that was resolved surgically the day after he was born, My son had a Kasai procedure done where they yank the gall bladder and loop the intestine around the liver to bypass the bile ducts (they are gone from the billiary atresia)
This was done at one month old so he could get to a year to 18 months without a transplant but it didnt work (it only does in about 30% of cases) The final cause of his liver failure was PBC or Primary Billiary Cirhossis, caused by a bile back up in the liver (but REMEBER that was removed at one month old on him)We tried synthetic polar bear bile for some 8 months which he would take orally it helps to thin out the the bile his liver produced in an attempt to flcuh that from his liver, it worked somewhat , bu in the end neither that nor phenobarbitol (also used for its effect on bile production) helped.
I can live without my gall bladder if my son and wife can, if the pain gets too bad Ill have it yanked,
But I repeat no bile is produced by the gall bladder, it simply HOLDS it after the liver has produced it (bile is also one of the ways the liver flushes toxins
Seriously, I am on Cipro , second time for a bout of prostatitis myself, I waqs experiencing night sweats, heart pains and most disturbingly severe liver pain, after a ton of tests everything was Ok except I was still fevered and had the liver pain, all kinds of unexplainable and very serious seeming symptoms,
It turned out that My GALL Bladder is pretty much DOA , The coincidental timing with my prostatits was just bad luck.
I also have Reiter's Syndrome which can cause ALL Kinds of seemingly unrelated symptoms (INCLUDING HEART) AND IT generally goes hand in hand with prostatits in younger (under 40) men,
Mine was caused from a very serious bout as in nearly dead, case of Campylobacter.
Now I have just regined myself to taking lots of NSAIDS, for the arthritis part (but as many broken bones as I ve had its hard to tell if its from those or this) and dealin with a bout of the big P every other year or so. he heart issues are serious but treatable.
Agreed the Energia is the best design out there at current, I keep hearing people talk about re-building the Saturn V program , WHY ? Yes it was good, but the Energia is much better for the same given role (and a heck of a lot shorter too:)
After reading a very good book on all kinds of Physics experiments from the late 50's I decided to build a linear accelerator, I lived on a farm at the time and all the needed materials were at hand (as well as a fully equipped machine shop) it was roughly 40ft long and ran along side the chiken coop my grandad thought I was nuts, my dad thought it was great, I had fun with it for about a week until popping fuses annoyed my grandad to the point he said scrap it.
A cyclotron seemed like the easy route.
The days when we would reflect on OS's about what was great tight and lean, 4.1.4, even 2.5.1 (by todays standards) are gone to pass I am sad to say.
I keep looking for a Enterprise server scale OS that DOENT have everything and a few dozen kitchen sinks thrown in.....
Who remebers when they were going to try the exact same thing with Solaris 7 ? I was so pumped I seriously considered a migration plan from our then RH 5.2 systems to Solaris.
One comment from USENET I will NEVER forget was from a fellow who upon hearing of Sun opening the source to solaris said "Now I can open it up look at the code and figure out why the hell its soo damm slow, alas I can die a happy man" I busted out laughing because that was my initial reaction too.
BUT The stability and security experience were great with 2.5.1 I couldnt have ever asked for more. I think I will always have a soft spot for solaris after a 2 year admin stint with 2.5.1
Some one else watched too much Law and Order for this to be today's posting.
But to the question posed F*** NO !
All it takes is one little perf in the membrane and that batch is contaminated, whats wrong with desalination of sea water for bringing water to the masses ? Yeah it requires energy , but solar is GREAT for it, this requires energy too, is it cost effective ?
After reading the article I feel like I should preface it by saying, I am MajorDicks rising anger, when people write about themselves in the 3rd person for obvioulsy misleading resons it drivers me batty.