To put this all in perspective, the world power consumption is something like 15 TW. The total amount of solar power incident on the earth is about 130,000 TW.
So, you're saying everything's fine, we still have at least a couple of decades to go before hitting the solar power limit?;)
There is no danger of draining the sun, or stopping the winds obviously. However, such a mass-scale wind-power project to power the world might be enough to non-negligibly affect weather systems that are related to winds. It might seem trivial, but tipping the earth's balance in some ways might have unexpected (and unpleasant) results. Why not just go with solar power? No need to harness the winds, no need for thousands of propellers over our heads. Just roofs with photovoltaic elements...
Given away by strange, crop circle-like formations seen from the air, a huge prehistoric ceremonial complex discovered in southern England has taken archaeologists by surprise.
Amusingly, somebody had already added the Stonehenge discovery as an example on the Wikipedia Crop CIRCLE page. I undid that edit, so you owe me (since I saved you from the embarrassment of linking to sources that contradict your own point of course!);)
Best title theme ever. Alternating between a dithyrambic classical score and the funkiest 70's dance beat. I was too young to appreciate it when I was watching the show in my early teens, I am not to old to appreciate the rest...;)
I have answered again and again. A CPU is not part of the OS, while the browser is. As simple as that. I consider the browser as part of the OS, as windshield wipers are part of the car, merely a required enhancement. And you didn't tell me. If MS should not be bundling IE, how about the other OS's? Can they bundle their own browsers? Because that would seem to me that would mean giving them an edge and I assume the law would just prevent abuse of monopoly, not give competitive advantages to small players.
Last attempt. Let me try a car analogy since everything else has failed. And it doesn't even have to be a far-fetched analogy. So, if you are right and I am simply not getting it, please phrase it in terms of a car analogy. Anyway, say that originally cars did not have windshield wipers (true). Then some University develops them and various shops start building them and adding them to cars (most for free - but I think that is irrelevant). Then, all automakers start installing their own windshield wipers by default. However, one automaker (Microsoft Motors) has most of the market. Are they the only ones not allowed to pre-install their windshield wipers, even though you can't seriously expect a modern car not to come with wipers? Note that in this example the CPU is not represented by the engine of the car (since the whole car is the OS), there isn't a good analogy but it would be something like roads, gasoline etc, i.e. something not all cars come with (like a CPU does not come with any OS and is not expected to). A further question so that I can understand fully. Why are we allowing windows to come with firewall, image viewer, wordpad, email client etc? Aren't they destroying the markets of all these (Firewalls, email clients etc existed as a market before MS added them).
Wow, you are serious with that CPU example? I will dare answer, although I doubt I will get through... First of all, you are completely disregarding what an OS means. Let's take the Wikipedia definition: "an interface between hardware and user". An OS is definitely not hardware, so I would say bundling CPU's would be an obvious attempt at abusing your market position in OS's. However, a browser is indeed an interface between hardware (the network) and the user. You could compare it to a telnet program, an ftp program or more loosely to firewall software, file managers, image viewers etc. A question is where is the line drawn between OS and applications (I trust we have now moved past your silly CPU example). I would say that the OS should enable the very basic functionality that a modern user would expect. I would say that viewing an image, writing a text file, accessing the internet are examples of very basic functionality. "Accessing the internet" right now means a browser. Would it be ok if MS only bundled an FTP client? They would still be "destroying" the "FTP client market", however right now a browser is the most basic internet application and that is what should be included in an OS. I don't expect to have to find a CD to install a browser, IE is fine for downloading a decent browser. Ok, you can say then that it is a security risk and that browsing porn on an unpatched IE could get you into trouble, but I would counter that people who get hit that way, are also vulnerable to the countless other attack vectors available to malware writers for Windows systems. In the end, removing IE from Windows adds an inconvenience to Windows, and I think that is the main reason that this is considered "good news" here. Yeah, I have my nice SUSE desktop and I don't care whether Windows users can surf out of the box or not, however I that is no reason for finding this good.
You really need a display to get a browser too, should it be bundled with the OS? You really need a CPU to use an OS, should it be bundled with the OS? If Microsoft were to come out with their own brand of CPU tomorrow and required all PC makers to buy a bundle of Windows with their CPU, instead of just Windows would you support that? After all, a OS won't work without a CPU. And PC makers can always throw away the MS brand CPU and buy one from Intel or AMD right? And if you wanted to run Windows on a PC you were building you could just throw away the CPU too right? And just because MS pays to create that CPU and deliver it does not mean the price of Windows was raised to include it, does it? After all, it comes "free" with the OS.
Oh, come on, of all the arguments you could use you resort to cheap sophism? I can't seriously respond to this, perhaps I could revert to humor... but...
They don't have a monopoly on desktop OS's or on Web browsers, so it does not undermine the market. MS does have an effective monopoly on desktop OS's so anything they bundle with it does undermine the free market.
Hmm, no sense of humor either? Perhaps I shouldn't have tried to respond...
I mean I really don't understand you... Why is this a good thing? How would a version of Windows that lacks a Firefox Downloader benefit anyone? The fact that you need a browser in order to get a browser (no, a bundled wget would certainly not do for Windows users), for me means that the browser should be part of the operating system. As long as that basic browser is able to download something like Firefox, I really don't care about how crappy it is. You might say that - hey - the OEM's should bundle other browsers. However isn't the fact that you REALLY need to bundle a browser an indication that it should be part of the OS? Perhaps we should have Apple remove Safari next. The DO have a monopoly on pretentious/cool-wannabe devices, don't they?;)
And you are talking about the second generation. The Actius RD3D was released a year earlier. So, this Acer is not the first 3D laptop in the sense that it exists in 3 dimensions, it is not the first 3D laptop in the sense of having a 3D capable display, maybe there is another usage of the term 3D?
Please watch your sources. That site is obviously planted by lord Xenu to undermine the efforts of the great Church of Scientology.You shouldn't be quoting the guy who trapped all these dead souls on earth and enslaved the human race under the evil John Travolta... oh wait, I think I mixed up the Hubbard plots...
I guess mods today are sub-high school level in physics. Ok, the amusing worries about helium concentrations and hydrogen exhaustion were already addressed. I just wanted to point that at least one of your "safe" power sources, hydroelectric power, is quite destructive for the environment in more than one ways (disrupts local ecosystems, sometimes leads to CH4 & CO2 emmissions...). Wind power is not as bad (well, it mostly poses a danger for birds who pass by), however it is not such a great power source if you look at how much each turbine produces...
They are the zillionth company to find out that not only in Soviet Russia SAP ERP adapts YOU... and they are pissed about it. Don't tell me they actually expected software that would adapt to their own business model and integrate seamlessly with their operations?
Wow. I couldn't disagree more. I usually swear by openSuSE, but I could see from the first moment that ASUS had done an amazing job with the EEE. Granted, I had to activate the "advanced" mode to get full KDE and add the Debian repositories since I needed the machine for development on the go, plus the single user thing was a bit annoying, but it I was certainly not the target audience. I lent it to a friend of mine for her vacation - an average windows user - and she did not ask a single question during the 2-3 weeks she used it, she just said she loved the experience (mostly email, browsing, photos from the camera, IM, video-chat...). And as I said, for a developer it still only took a little tinkering to get the full "linux experience" I am used to. And I don't know how you get the "it breaks with updates". I have installed hundreds of DEBIAN packages and updates and I still have not seen a problem. Not only that, but it is faster and handles wifi, USB devices & flash cards better (and simpler) than almost any desktop installation I've come across. Last week I also bought an MSI Wind with linux. Now THAT was a bad experience. I said I am an openSuSE user myself and the Wind with SuSE Enterprise 10 should be a familiar experience, but, boy, it is a complete disaster. Anyway, that's another story, it just made me appreciate the EEE even more.
Ehm, judging from my recent search history containing gems like "sheevaplug site:walmart.com", I would say you were not the only one. Sometimes even RTF title is hard for a slashdotter...
Whoa there! South Park DOES NOT compare to Family Guy! South Park has jokes that are inherent to a story! Deep situational and emotional jokes based on what is relevant and has a point, not just one random interchangeable joke after another!
WTH are you talking about? S3 is the manufacturer of ViRGE. There is only S3 ViRGE, and it is the "regular" ViRGE. Since you seem at an automobile analogy comprehension level, I will make it even easier: "Regular" Prius is also "Toyota Prius".
Something more annoying has to be invented first, e.g. the camera doing a rotation around the characters per second or worse, then everyone will switch to that.
Yep, going after the ex was the right way. However, if she just wanted the page down fast, she could simply send a nice DMCA take-down notice claiming copyright to all material related to whatever her name is. It works beautifully for corporate lying bastards, why not her?
Yeah, but if Daniel Shipstone solves our energy worries in the near future, the guy will just have a fancy roof.
To put this all in perspective, the world power consumption is something like 15 TW. The total amount of solar power incident on the earth is about 130,000 TW.
So, you're saying everything's fine, we still have at least a couple of decades to go before hitting the solar power limit? ;)
There is no danger of draining the sun, or stopping the winds obviously. However, such a mass-scale wind-power project to power the world might be enough to non-negligibly affect weather systems that are related to winds. It might seem trivial, but tipping the earth's balance in some ways might have unexpected (and unpleasant) results.
Why not just go with solar power? No need to harness the winds, no need for thousands of propellers over our heads. Just roofs with photovoltaic elements...
Given away by strange, crop circle-like formations seen from the air, a huge prehistoric ceremonial complex discovered in southern England has taken archaeologists by surprise.
Umm.. Crop marks, not crop circles.
Amusingly, somebody had already added the Stonehenge discovery as an example on the Wikipedia Crop CIRCLE page. I undid that edit, so you owe me (since I saved you from the embarrassment of linking to sources that contradict your own point of course!) ;)
That was supposed to be "I am now too old..."... Guys, is that semantic spell checker plugin for firefox almost ready?
Best title theme ever. Alternating between a dithyrambic classical score and the funkiest 70's dance beat. I was too young to appreciate it when I was watching the show in my early teens, I am not to old to appreciate the rest... ;)
I have answered again and again. A CPU is not part of the OS, while the browser is. As simple as that. I consider the browser as part of the OS, as windshield wipers are part of the car, merely a required enhancement.
And you didn't tell me. If MS should not be bundling IE, how about the other OS's? Can they bundle their own browsers? Because that would seem to me that would mean giving them an edge and I assume the law would just prevent abuse of monopoly, not give competitive advantages to small players.
Last attempt. Let me try a car analogy since everything else has failed. And it doesn't even have to be a far-fetched analogy.
So, if you are right and I am simply not getting it, please phrase it in terms of a car analogy.
Anyway, say that originally cars did not have windshield wipers (true). Then some University develops them and various shops start building them and adding them to cars (most for free - but I think that is irrelevant). Then, all automakers start installing their own windshield wipers by default. However, one automaker (Microsoft Motors) has most of the market. Are they the only ones not allowed to pre-install their windshield wipers, even though you can't seriously expect a modern car not to come with wipers?
Note that in this example the CPU is not represented by the engine of the car (since the whole car is the OS), there isn't a good analogy but it would be something like roads, gasoline etc, i.e. something not all cars come with (like a CPU does not come with any OS and is not expected to).
A further question so that I can understand fully. Why are we allowing windows to come with firewall, image viewer, wordpad, email client etc? Aren't they destroying the markets of all these (Firewalls, email clients etc existed as a market before MS added them).
Wow, you are serious with that CPU example? I will dare answer, although I doubt I will get through...
First of all, you are completely disregarding what an OS means. Let's take the Wikipedia definition: "an interface between hardware and user". An OS is definitely not hardware, so I would say bundling CPU's would be an obvious attempt at abusing your market position in OS's. However, a browser is indeed an interface between hardware (the network) and the user. You could compare it to a telnet program, an ftp program or more loosely to firewall software, file managers, image viewers etc. A question is where is the line drawn between OS and applications (I trust we have now moved past your silly CPU example). I would say that the OS should enable the very basic functionality that a modern user would expect. I would say that viewing an image, writing a text file, accessing the internet are examples of very basic functionality. "Accessing the internet" right now means a browser. Would it be ok if MS only bundled an FTP client? They would still be "destroying" the "FTP client market", however right now a browser is the most basic internet application and that is what should be included in an OS. I don't expect to have to find a CD to install a browser, IE is fine for downloading a decent browser. Ok, you can say then that it is a security risk and that browsing porn on an unpatched IE could get you into trouble, but I would counter that people who get hit that way, are also vulnerable to the countless other attack vectors available to malware writers for Windows systems.
In the end, removing IE from Windows adds an inconvenience to Windows, and I think that is the main reason that this is considered "good news" here. Yeah, I have my nice SUSE desktop and I don't care whether Windows users can surf out of the box or not, however I that is no reason for finding this good.
You really need a display to get a browser too, should it be bundled with the OS? You really need a CPU to use an OS, should it be bundled with the OS? If Microsoft were to come out with their own brand of CPU tomorrow and required all PC makers to buy a bundle of Windows with their CPU, instead of just Windows would you support that? After all, a OS won't work without a CPU. And PC makers can always throw away the MS brand CPU and buy one from Intel or AMD right? And if you wanted to run Windows on a PC you were building you could just throw away the CPU too right? And just because MS pays to create that CPU and deliver it does not mean the price of Windows was raised to include it, does it? After all, it comes "free" with the OS.
Oh, come on, of all the arguments you could use you resort to cheap sophism? I can't seriously respond to this, perhaps I could revert to humor... but...
They don't have a monopoly on desktop OS's or on Web browsers, so it does not undermine the market. MS does have an effective monopoly on desktop OS's so anything they bundle with it does undermine the free market.
Hmm, no sense of humor either? Perhaps I shouldn't have tried to respond...
I mean I really don't understand you... Why is this a good thing? How would a version of Windows that lacks a Firefox Downloader benefit anyone? The fact that you need a browser in order to get a browser (no, a bundled wget would certainly not do for Windows users), for me means that the browser should be part of the operating system. As long as that basic browser is able to download something like Firefox, I really don't care about how crappy it is. You might say that - hey - the OEM's should bundle other browsers. However isn't the fact that you REALLY need to bundle a browser an indication that it should be part of the OS? ;)
Perhaps we should have Apple remove Safari next. The DO have a monopoly on pretentious/cool-wannabe devices, don't they?
I am sure entropy doesn't have to be eternal, there must be a way to reverse it... Hmm, let's ask Multivac...
Perhaps he wanted to mask his IP? ;)
Pretty essential if he is running on HyperVM...
And you are talking about the second generation. The Actius RD3D was released a year earlier. So, this Acer is not the first 3D laptop in the sense that it exists in 3 dimensions, it is not the first 3D laptop in the sense of having a 3D capable display, maybe there is another usage of the term 3D?
Please watch your sources. That site is obviously planted by lord Xenu to undermine the efforts of the great Church of Scientology.You shouldn't be quoting the guy who trapped all these dead souls on earth and enslaved the human race under the evil John Travolta... oh wait, I think I mixed up the Hubbard plots...
I guess mods today are sub-high school level in physics. Ok, the amusing worries about helium concentrations and hydrogen exhaustion were already addressed. I just wanted to point that at least one of your "safe" power sources, hydroelectric power, is quite destructive for the environment in more than one ways (disrupts local ecosystems, sometimes leads to CH4 & CO2 emmissions...). Wind power is not as bad (well, it mostly poses a danger for birds who pass by), however it is not such a great power source if you look at how much each turbine produces...
They are the zillionth company to find out that not only in Soviet Russia SAP ERP adapts YOU... and they are pissed about it. Don't tell me they actually expected software that would adapt to their own business model and integrate seamlessly with their operations?
What are they implying here? Linux is funny? Are they calling us comedians?
Wow. I couldn't disagree more. I usually swear by openSuSE, but I could see from the first moment that ASUS had done an amazing job with the EEE. Granted, I had to activate the "advanced" mode to get full KDE and add the Debian repositories since I needed the machine for development on the go, plus the single user thing was a bit annoying, but it I was certainly not the target audience. I lent it to a friend of mine for her vacation - an average windows user - and she did not ask a single question during the 2-3 weeks she used it, she just said she loved the experience (mostly email, browsing, photos from the camera, IM, video-chat...). And as I said, for a developer it still only took a little tinkering to get the full "linux experience" I am used to.
And I don't know how you get the "it breaks with updates". I have installed hundreds of DEBIAN packages and updates and I still have not seen a problem. Not only that, but it is faster and handles wifi, USB devices & flash cards better (and simpler) than almost any desktop installation I've come across.
Last week I also bought an MSI Wind with linux. Now THAT was a bad experience. I said I am an openSuSE user myself and the Wind with SuSE Enterprise 10 should be a familiar experience, but, boy, it is a complete disaster. Anyway, that's another story, it just made me appreciate the EEE even more.
Ehm, judging from my recent search history containing gems like "sheevaplug site:walmart.com", I would say you were not the only one. Sometimes even RTF title is hard for a slashdotter...
Whoa there! South Park DOES NOT compare to Family Guy! South Park has jokes that are inherent to a story! Deep situational and emotional jokes based on what is relevant and has a point, not just one random interchangeable joke after another!
WTH are you talking about? S3 is the manufacturer of ViRGE. There is only S3 ViRGE, and it is the "regular" ViRGE.
Since you seem at an automobile analogy comprehension level, I will make it even easier: "Regular" Prius is also "Toyota Prius".
Something more annoying has to be invented first, e.g. the camera doing a rotation around the characters per second or worse, then everyone will switch to that.
I'm not a radio expert but you'd probably see things like "wkxy 102.3 love radio" scrolling before your eyes...
Yep, going after the ex was the right way. However, if she just wanted the page down fast, she could simply send a nice DMCA take-down notice claiming copyright to all material related to whatever her name is. It works beautifully for corporate lying bastards, why not her?