At the end of the day your still only wearing one jacket. If you were introducing yourself to strangers for a presentation would you start with, "Hello! My name is John Smith, my address is $Address, my dogs name is..., etc.
Or would you say "Hello my name is John Smith!"?
In the end you have to let the users decide what path they want to take, Linux is your introduction it is the users that create your presentation.
But if you own a license to the song, then what is wrong with obtaining a 1:1 quality of the song?
For example if I purchase a CD I do not own the physical media in a way I can say it is my property but the artist gives me permission to listen to the works within and the physical medium is merely just a symbolic representation of that agreement.
If I own a cassette tape of an artist should I be able to listen to the same tracks of DVD-Audio quality? Why not? As everyone here knows that even in the day of the cassette tape the original recording (which you have a license to) was done at a much higher fidelity they just didn't have the ability to mass distribute it(cost effectively of course)
So wouldn't this be like buying a hard copy of a book that was made on a poorly maintained press with smears within its pages, would it be wrong to download a copy in digital form? Is the artist or copyright holder missing out on something?
This makes me wonder... does the BSA have to help any software vendor? For example if I was to write a business program and release it (regardless of license) will the BSA automatically enforce my license? Do they do such detailed searches? How much am I entitled to part of the recouped money?
You must be joking, right? Every ISP or other IT like Dept, the first rule of thumb is to follow the handbook, if removing all startup apps doesn't work then they will tell you its your fault and tell you to drag out your recovery disks. My Dell Dimension when I first got it had a Radon 9700TX that had a defective pipeline, there was a light scatter of off colored pixels across the screen, you know what they told me to do? Reinstall the OS... not even a week after it arrived!! Your IT department likely is responsible for the hardware AND software of each machine you look after. The millions of copies of Vista will not be installed in your department they will be installed on machines bought within the last year with XP for people who want to be on the Bleeding Edge of tech. So what happens when they upgrade a system with about 6mths of surfing on it? It will likely choke and who will help you? Not many people, because the only reason it was accepted to begin with is because you had a clean install now that there are variables with your XP install that could be messing with the system do you really think a $15/hr support rep with out even an A+ is going to troubleshoot? Not likely
The interesting part is Linux owns the Linux TM. If MS does try to do something not kosher then can Linus stop MS from marketing the word Linux? Possibly he would have a say in the marketing aspect so they could not market the entire box as "Linux" but they must outline it is merely an implementation of Linux? I think this could be an interesting card to play if it gets held back until the name gets allot of buzz first then slip in other (cheaper?) implementations of the kernel. I don't think this puts backs to the wall at all, maybe MS sees it like that.
Fundamentally science uses its own rules, logic, facts and deduction. Science is the only arm of the government that stands on its own merits rather than having to be forced upon us. For example science tells us the sun is very hot:) Regardless of who interprets it the fact remains the same. OTOH the financial arm of the government will say we have no money but if we were to have a separate group of accountants to view the same figures they would likely come up with a different conclusion. The latter is echoed throughout all governments. The only reason the government is so interested in science to begin with is that each scientific fact works for everyone in the same way and cannot be skewed, so it arises at the attitude "we are better to discover the fact then risk someone else find it first".
Back to the topic. Scientists are trusted to arrive at scientific conclusions, how can we trust the combustion engine but if they say the world is getting hotter in a bad way we should not? We should definitely challenge them by asking questions and seeking answers, but to discredit them for no reason is a very scary path to go down if you ask me.
Advertise a telephone# for MMS or an email address. Once they establish the market (mass end user transfers) supply and demand will balance very quickly, it will be as easy as the first sentence.
I agree, this is great for Microsoft in many ways. First the people who pay for the 'virgin' copies have a great amount of flexibility on their deployment. Second the noobs that get it pirated have to look over their shoulders, so to speak as they would likely have a copy with the latest malware-du-jour.
Of course the one thing that can fix this is a signed copy (PGP) of each original ISO. This could certify that it is original as long as the algorithm has few collisions that will be of use to an attacker.
I really don't think this will affect the IT industry since any IT dept. worth their qwerty has a fresh copy in a shiny MS box and the only ones to blame are themselves.
For the pirates out there they should be used to it by now, every time a new piece of 'essential' software is released it's usually always a hoax or something cause the early adopters have more determination then brains, I could host a file of 40Kb and call it 'Ub3r Vista 2010 early release!!!.iso" and people would still download it.
How about if I have your number programmed into my phone and you don't have mine? Can I harvest cell#'s and 'war drive'?
Even better do they realize we can triangulate someone closer then their resolution if I have 3 of these phones locating the same #? If all mappings are relative to 'Jack' (person on contact list) then if there are 3 other locator's that are given mappings relative to Jack then each mapping on the 3 phones will have different information to Jack's location.
With this information combined can we get a closer look at where Jack is?
I see your point but I would like to ask, if I as a programmer want to make a program that requires use of your resources that you paid for(CPU,HDD,Sound,Video) why should I pay them for the access?
Keep in mind Windows(TM) is the most deployed software in the world, using a method similar to a spam filter would allow each developer to be given a personal key free of charge. Possibly a small programmatic test (AV type scan) for initial compatibility with OS and basic security principals would be done. Then if users find issues with the software they can "report as spam" type of feed back that would give each software (as well programmer) a rating of desirability. This would range by perception of the functionality but would give specific areas of focus that could be looked at by the developer of the project as well as researchers. This method is not the most secure as verification of the software could be possibly forged, the user could be informed of the possible issues with the product and taken to a site that would outline the issues, and allow the user to 'digg' the ones they associate with.
I would assume 'user space' in Vista will be forgiving with resources but depending on how MS stratagizes the certificate, such as issuing media that associates non-certified software with malware, et al, this may not be acceptable to the small professional developer.
Thats a good idea, you just have to remember Linux is designed to side to the physical computer. This means if I plug in a homedir of my root account at home would Linux allow me to have root access to my files on the usb drive or the ones on the physical disk? It does depend on what you want to do, because of the last point using this for root-kitting may not be efficient but using it as a live cd would work
If Google wants to use their position to police the Internet, why stop with Spyware
The police have the authority to take actions on your actions. I.e your action: take a lady's purse, police action: cuff you and take you to the station.
With Google: your action, search for info, find sites that are flagged 'unsafe' you click on it anyway, Google's action: nothing (maybe offer ads for spyware removal;))
it's like saying I am a risk because I have arms. Potentially I could strangle someone with them.
Well if like a computer program your arms were only capable of doing what they were pre-programed to do then all your arms would do is strangle people, wouldn't they?
Crapware doesn't help you because its not programed to do that.
This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. How can the end user really count on a SMS to be authentic? The only way for this to work is.... if the phone companies filter out all SMS that could be construded as DHS spoofs and who is gonna have to pay for this ? YOU. Will it be cheap? Nope... why should it be?
I know this is a rant but the more they want to tell you how terrified you should be today what ever the medium they use becomes governament policed. So one by one they take over forms of communication as your best intrest.
Now the question is what happens when someone comments on homland security using these mediums? The governament has to question if your comments have anything to do with them and if so could someone on the other end *possibly* construe you comment as theirs. This is where evreything starts to go down hill IMO. Good luck anyway
Mr. Hawkings, chaos is a representative of an emerging pattern. This involves both us and the planet changing to synchronize to form a pattern that we will continue. Corruption and its followers are an example of old ideas and old men that grasp onto their old ideals. We are at a very exciting time in life where we are shedding old ingrained thoughts from the inside out. The people themselves are realizing something is not right eventhough they have no outside confirmation of this belief it still continues. This gives us the preception of chaos. We as a race will go through a war with ourselves until the pattern is recognized.
I do believe the pattern that does emerge will be so great each person as well as life as we know it will be able to truly understand it in a way that our life time could never fathom. I guess we are just a part of an ecosystem but leaving this planet will not solve the problem becuase it was not this planet that created it.
In fact... even if we could detect such situations in real time, I would be loath to presume that it was in fact wrong. What if those 2 switches are load sharing? What if Switch A, initiated Call #1, and then experienced a problem causing calls to be routed to Switch B? I would need to think of every possible situation to insure I didn't accidentally break functionality that ought to work.
You do bring up some good points and I do agree as someone with telecom experience with a major provider that the system does not inheritly check for abuse of the system, but then you may have not been working with the system instead of 'on it'. I can guarentee many queries are run and analysed daily based on fraud, quality of service (dropped calls) and others. A cell phone broadcasts it's signal which ever tower recieves the signal becomes a candidate to shoulder the load. It does show up on reports that a cell was registered in one area and a call was placed on the 'same' phone in another. This is not done in 'real time' but over a course of the day as the reports come in. If your call is registered by two or more sites they track your phone to anticipate which tower will be the next to handle the call(so the call is not dropped). The system can still handle the call if two non-overlapping sites register your cell but it will be logged! Do not expect a call from a mysterious voice saying they are investigating your line much of this is done without your knowledge. Many times your account will be watched closely as to find the nature of person who cloned your phone (ie, drug deals, other types of fraud, illegal immegrants).
The system is not bullet proof but as many on this forum would associate, it is like running queries on a web log, all of your IP data is there and by developing filters you can narrow down certain data and make reasonable assumptions. These people are in groups of over 100 and make anualy over 60k(CDN) a year to carry out these tasks. While not bullet-proof it is definately a tight grip on the situation your evrey day flea market clone normally gets kicked off the network within 24 hrs, others are detected and followed if worse comes to worse you are notified by mail and asked to bring the notice to a phone dealer for replacement (that is rare though).
Whats to stop someone from just plain lying? "This is my *brothers* account hes 19, I'm really 14...."
It is very simple, there is no verification of anything on the net. This is like searching around for some metric to judge evreyone else, it not only won't work it can't work. We will hear things like, "she said she had an athletic build... I was mislead" and "he didn't say he was pastey white and lived in his mom's basement".
The truth of the matter is you cannot verrify someone over the internet using the same methods we use in person, it really is a diffrent thing. Both parties/people are comfortable in their anonimity and feel free to bs all the things they know they could'nt in person. It's like trying to repetedly fit the square peg into a round hole, we just have to find a method of explaination or understanding that will make people realize this.
The only point I was trying to make is GP said there would be a gradual failure as each bit reaches its lifetime expection(ie, 1Mil cycles etc). This is fine for end user data storage since most data written has more significance and is written and erased less frequently(possibly tens of times a day). Since the goal of the controlling logic would aim for highest effency of data transfer the drive has the capability of reading and erasing possibly a thousand or more times per hour. With data stacking techniques to keep currently "popular" data resident new data would be consistenly filling all the availible bits. In short it works out to be the same as mounting your/tmp directory onto your flash drive.
Flash drives are awesome as floppy disks because they are quick to read and write but will fail quickly if used the way a harddrive could fill and empty it on such a tight read and write cycle.
Sony is starting to smell like desperation. Like wow first they try to win evreyone on the 'specs', "we have a cell processor!", "PS3 is sooo complex we don't even know what it is!". Nintendo comes out with a controller size of a Nano, wireless, with a simple location detection device.... evrey one wants a Wii.
Now is crunch time their competitor is going to release the product to millions of young and old and the only thing they have is their 'member' in thier hands so....
"We will attempt to make an OS run on it!", my god this is going to be brutal. If Sony matches their PS2 shipment of 100 million (keep in mind many are replacement units) then the incentive to hack these machines that will no doubt be connected via broadband 24/7 to exploit all the DRM'd goodness that you've spend real $'s on will be too much to bear. Sony will be hacked black and blue. Then what, ask MS to custom an OS for the system? HA doubt it. Linux? maybe. Still hackable with ignorant end users and Sony steering the ship? Ummmmmm...
Bottom line is they are fishing, they will tell you what ever they can right now to get them a bigger mind share. The scary thing is if they keep talking like this they will paint themselves into a corner trying to pull a bloody hack of a system together just to have no developers waiting for them.
If they talk too much then they will just hang themselves when it turns to vapour on release.
At least knowing Sony I bet it would be a smoking inferno if it did die, complete with scandals and finger pointing...
That would work if the data written was always smaller than the cache, most notebooks for example have a hibernation file identical to the size of availible RAM. With 256MB cache each write would likely completely fill your memory, thus all or most sectors would die simultaneously.
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At the end of the day your still only wearing one jacket. If you were introducing yourself to strangers for a presentation would you start with, "Hello! My name is John Smith, my address is $Address, my dogs name is ..., etc.
Or would you say "Hello my name is John Smith!"?
In the end you have to let the users decide what path they want to take, Linux is your introduction it is the users that create your presentation.
But if you own a license to the song, then what is wrong with obtaining a 1:1 quality of the song?
For example if I purchase a CD I do not own the physical media in a way I can say it is my property but the artist gives me permission to listen to the works within and the physical medium is merely just a symbolic representation of that agreement.
If I own a cassette tape of an artist should I be able to listen to the same tracks of DVD-Audio quality? Why not? As everyone here knows that even in the day of the cassette tape the original recording (which you have a license to) was done at a much higher fidelity they just didn't have the ability to mass distribute it(cost effectively of course)
So wouldn't this be like buying a hard copy of a book that was made on a poorly maintained press with smears within its pages, would it be wrong to download a copy in digital form? Is the artist or copyright holder missing out on something?
Whats stopping you from making a light bulb?
This makes me wonder ... does the BSA have to help any software vendor? For example if I was to write a business program and release it (regardless of license) will the BSA automatically enforce my license? Do they do such detailed searches? How much am I entitled to part of the recouped money?
You must be joking, right? Every ISP or other IT like Dept, the first rule of thumb is to follow the handbook, if removing all startup apps doesn't work then they will tell you its your fault and tell you to drag out your recovery disks. My Dell Dimension when I first got it had a Radon 9700TX that had a defective pipeline, there was a light scatter of off colored pixels across the screen, you know what they told me to do? Reinstall the OS ... not even a week after it arrived!! Your IT department likely is responsible for the hardware AND software of each machine you look after. The millions of copies of Vista will not be installed in your department they will be installed on machines bought within the last year with XP for people who want to be on the Bleeding Edge of tech. So what happens when they upgrade a system with about 6mths of surfing on it? It will likely choke and who will help you? Not many people, because the only reason it was accepted to begin with is because you had a clean install now that there are variables with your XP install that could be messing with the system do you really think a $15/hr support rep with out even an A+ is going to troubleshoot? Not likely
The interesting part is Linux owns the Linux TM. If MS does try to do something not kosher then can Linus stop MS from marketing the word Linux? Possibly he would have a say in the marketing aspect so they could not market the entire box as "Linux" but they must outline it is merely an implementation of Linux? I think this could be an interesting card to play if it gets held back until the name gets allot of buzz first then slip in other (cheaper?) implementations of the kernel. I don't think this puts backs to the wall at all, maybe MS sees it like that.
Sorry man, you never bought it ...
:)
You licensed it
Fundamentally science uses its own rules, logic, facts and deduction. Science is the only arm of the government that stands on its own merits rather than having to be forced upon us. For example science tells us the sun is very hot :) Regardless of who interprets it the fact remains the same. OTOH the financial arm of the government will say we have no money but if we were to have a separate group of accountants to view the same figures they would likely come up with a different conclusion. The latter is echoed throughout all governments. The only reason the government is so interested in science to begin with is that each scientific fact works for everyone in the same way and cannot be skewed, so it arises at the attitude "we are better to discover the fact then risk someone else find it first".
Back to the topic. Scientists are trusted to arrive at scientific conclusions, how can we trust the combustion engine but if they say the world is getting hotter in a bad way we should not? We should definitely challenge them by asking questions and seeking answers, but to discredit them for no reason is a very scary path to go down if you ask me.
Advertise a telephone# for MMS or an email address. Once they establish the market (mass end user transfers) supply and demand will balance very quickly, it will be as easy as the first sentence.
I agree, this is great for Microsoft in many ways. First the people who pay for the 'virgin' copies have a great amount of flexibility on their deployment. Second the noobs that get it pirated have to look over their shoulders, so to speak as they would likely have a copy with the latest malware-du-jour.
Of course the one thing that can fix this is a signed copy (PGP) of each original ISO. This could certify that it is original as long as the algorithm has few collisions that will be of use to an attacker.
I really don't think this will affect the IT industry since any IT dept. worth their qwerty has a fresh copy in a shiny MS box and the only ones to blame are themselves.
For the pirates out there they should be used to it by now, every time a new piece of 'essential' software is released it's usually always a hoax or something cause the early adopters have more determination then brains, I could host a file of 40Kb and call it 'Ub3r Vista 2010 early release!!!.iso" and people would still download it.
How about if I have your number programmed into my phone and you don't have mine? Can I harvest cell#'s and 'war drive'?
Even better do they realize we can triangulate someone closer then their resolution if I have 3 of these phones locating the same #? If all mappings are relative to 'Jack' (person on contact list) then if there are 3 other locator's that are given mappings relative to Jack then each mapping on the 3 phones will have different information to Jack's location.
With this information combined can we get a closer look at where Jack is?
I see your point but I would like to ask, if I as a programmer want to make a program that requires use of your resources that you paid for(CPU,HDD,Sound,Video) why should I pay them for the access?
Keep in mind Windows(TM) is the most deployed software in the world, using a method similar to a spam filter would allow each developer to be given a personal key free of charge. Possibly a small programmatic test (AV type scan) for initial compatibility with OS and basic security principals would be done. Then if users find issues with the software they can "report as spam" type of feed back that would give each software (as well programmer) a rating of desirability. This would range by perception of the functionality but would give specific areas of focus that could be looked at by the developer of the project as well as researchers. This method is not the most secure as verification of the software could be possibly forged, the user could be informed of the possible issues with the product and taken to a site that would outline the issues, and allow the user to 'digg' the ones they associate with.
I would assume 'user space' in Vista will be forgiving with resources but depending on how MS stratagizes the certificate, such as issuing media that associates non-certified software with malware, et al, this may not be acceptable to the small professional developer.
Thats a good idea, you just have to remember Linux is designed to side to the physical computer. This means if I plug in a homedir of my root account at home would Linux allow me to have root access to my files on the usb drive or the ones on the physical disk? It does depend on what you want to do, because of the last point using this for root-kitting may not be efficient but using it as a live cd would work
If Google wants to use their position to police the Internet, why stop with Spyware
;))
The police have the authority to take actions on your actions. I.e your action: take a lady's purse, police action: cuff you and take you to the station.
With Google: your action, search for info, find sites that are flagged 'unsafe' you click on it anyway, Google's action: nothing (maybe offer ads for spyware removal
it's like saying I am a risk because I have arms. Potentially I could strangle someone with them.
Well if like a computer program your arms were only capable of doing what they were pre-programed to do then all your arms would do is strangle people, wouldn't they?
Crapware doesn't help you because its not programed to do that.
Doesn't anyone find it funny that they are saying IBM deleted it's code?
Don't they have a copy?
This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. How can the end user really count on a SMS to be authentic? The only way for this to work is .... if the phone companies filter out all SMS that could be construded as DHS spoofs and who is gonna have to pay for this ? YOU. Will it be cheap? Nope ... why should it be?
I know this is a rant but the more they want to tell you how terrified you should be today what ever the medium they use becomes governament policed. So one by one they take over forms of communication as your best intrest.
Now the question is what happens when someone comments on homland security using these mediums? The governament has to question if your comments have anything to do with them and if so could someone on the other end *possibly* construe you comment as theirs. This is where evreything starts to go down hill IMO. Good luck anyway
Mr. Hawkings, chaos is a representative of an emerging pattern. This involves both us and the planet changing to synchronize to form a pattern that we will continue. Corruption and its followers are an example of old ideas and old men that grasp onto their old ideals. We are at a very exciting time in life where we are shedding old ingrained thoughts from the inside out. The people themselves are realizing something is not right eventhough they have no outside confirmation of this belief it still continues. This gives us the preception of chaos. We as a race will go through a war with ourselves until the pattern is recognized.
I do believe the pattern that does emerge will be so great each person as well as life as we know it will be able to truly understand it in a way that our life time could never fathom. I guess we are just a part of an ecosystem but leaving this planet will not solve the problem becuase it was not this planet that created it.
In fact... even if we could detect such situations in real time, I would be loath to presume that it was in fact wrong. What if those 2 switches are load sharing? What if Switch A, initiated Call #1, and then experienced a problem causing calls to be routed to Switch B? I would need to think of every possible situation to insure I didn't accidentally break functionality that ought to work.
You do bring up some good points and I do agree as someone with telecom experience with a major provider that the system does not inheritly check for abuse of the system, but then you may have not been working with the system instead of 'on it'. I can guarentee many queries are run and analysed daily based on fraud, quality of service (dropped calls) and others. A cell phone broadcasts it's signal which ever tower recieves the signal becomes a candidate to shoulder the load. It does show up on reports that a cell was registered in one area and a call was placed on the 'same' phone in another. This is not done in 'real time' but over a course of the day as the reports come in. If your call is registered by two or more sites they track your phone to anticipate which tower will be the next to handle the call(so the call is not dropped). The system can still handle the call if two non-overlapping sites register your cell but it will be logged! Do not expect a call from a mysterious voice saying they are investigating your line much of this is done without your knowledge. Many times your account will be watched closely as to find the nature of person who cloned your phone (ie, drug deals, other types of fraud, illegal immegrants).
The system is not bullet proof but as many on this forum would associate, it is like running queries on a web log, all of your IP data is there and by developing filters you can narrow down certain data and make reasonable assumptions. These people are in groups of over 100 and make anualy over 60k(CDN) a year to carry out these tasks. While not bullet-proof it is definately a tight grip on the situation your evrey day flea market clone normally gets kicked off the network within 24 hrs, others are detected and followed if worse comes to worse you are notified by mail and asked to bring the notice to a phone dealer for replacement (that is rare though).
Good thing that you don't have any participation in the data harvesting eh ;)
Whats to stop someone from just plain lying? "This is my *brothers* account hes 19, I'm really 14...."
... I was mislead" and "he didn't say he was pastey white and lived in his mom's basement".
It is very simple, there is no verification of anything on the net. This is like searching around for some metric to judge evreyone else, it not only won't work it can't work. We will hear things like, "she said she had an athletic build
The truth of the matter is you cannot verrify someone over the internet using the same methods we use in person, it really is a diffrent thing. Both parties/people are comfortable in their anonimity and feel free to bs all the things they know they could'nt in person. It's like trying to repetedly fit the square peg into a round hole, we just have to find a method of explaination or understanding that will make people realize this.
The only point I was trying to make is GP said there would be a gradual failure as each bit reaches its lifetime expection(ie, 1Mil cycles etc). This is fine for end user data storage since most data written has more significance and is written and erased less frequently(possibly tens of times a day). Since the goal of the controlling logic would aim for highest effency of data transfer the drive has the capability of reading and erasing possibly a thousand or more times per hour. With data stacking techniques to keep currently "popular" data resident new data would be consistenly filling all the availible bits. In short it works out to be the same as mounting your /tmp directory onto your flash drive.
Flash drives are awesome as floppy disks because they are quick to read and write but will fail quickly if used the way a harddrive could fill and empty it on such a tight read and write cycle.
Hey how about a quad core (2xCPU + 2xGPU)? With internal memory managment and instant access to all cores the results would be amazing.
Sony is starting to smell like desperation. Like wow first they try to win evreyone on the 'specs', "we have a cell processor!", "PS3 is sooo complex we don't even know what it is!". Nintendo comes out with a controller size of a Nano, wireless, with a simple location detection device .... evrey one wants a Wii.
... the same thing! .... evrey one wants a Wii.
...
...
:)
Sony comes up with
Now is crunch time their competitor is going to release the product to millions of young and old and the only thing they have is their 'member' in thier hands so....
"We will attempt to make an OS run on it!", my god this is going to be brutal. If Sony matches their PS2 shipment of 100 million (keep in mind many are replacement units) then the incentive to hack these machines that will no doubt be connected via broadband 24/7 to exploit all the DRM'd goodness that you've spend real $'s on will be too much to bear. Sony will be hacked black and blue. Then what, ask MS to custom an OS for the system? HA doubt it. Linux? maybe. Still hackable with ignorant end users and Sony steering the ship? Ummmmmm
Bottom line is they are fishing, they will tell you what ever they can right now to get them a bigger mind share. The scary thing is if they keep talking like this they will paint themselves into a corner trying to pull a bloody hack of a system together just to have no developers waiting for them.
If they talk too much then they will just hang themselves when it turns to vapour on release.
At least knowing Sony I bet it would be a smoking inferno if it did die, complete with scandals and finger pointing
Hope I can get good seats
That would work if the data written was always smaller than the cache, most notebooks for example have a hibernation file identical to the size of availible RAM. With 256MB cache each write would likely completely fill your memory, thus all or most sectors would die simultaneously.