If there were some sort of open 3D hardware consortium....ATI and NVidia could be members, and they could work together and make technilogical progress faster than just fighting each other. We would still need those same engineers working for those same companies to contribute to the project, except everyone benefits rather than just a few. It's a win win situation.
I agree that there needs to be a better driver model in the kernel...you shouldn't have to reconfigure and recompile your kernel to add the nvidia driver to it...but, I'd still rather the source be both open and available...then again I use Gentoo.
" Please mod this troll down. I am French and I find it offensive. I don't laugh at you Americans because of Vietnam and North Korea so shut up about the World War II because American civilians have NEVER experienced such hell as we had here. Thank you."
I am an American, and I agree with you. If the dumbasses in my own country don't watch it, the whole world's gonna be gunning for us. Just because the French actually used their brains and realized we were only going to Iraq for oil, everyone here freaked out and started throwing out their wine and naming french fries "freedom fries" even though their not even really from France orginally!
That's the whole point! Whether or not "Joe Consumer" realizes it, this does affect them...maybe not directly, but eventually it will. People need to be informed that all this apathy is going to catch up with them before it's too late...and I'm not just talking about EA here.
This is a good point. Many Linux enthusiasts get a little over zealous and asshole like towards the newbs. But the other guy has a point too, in that the whole reason to use Linux (or BSD) is because it is a free (as in freedom), open source operating system. Unfortunately neither ATI nor NVidia do the best jobs of opening up their code...but at least nVidia has better drivers for Linux. Windows doesn't have good driver support because of Microsoft, they have good drivers because the vendors actually support them. Alternative Open Hardware is coming though;)
How far is EA going to go to piss people off? The just can't get enough bad press can they? However, the real problem is "how long are people going to act like consumers instead of activists?" Now going to one extreme or the other is always bad, you have to find a balance...but I am tired of seeing people act like mindless cattle. If EA treats it workers, customers, and compitition poorly, people need to boycott. We may not own any stocks in the company, but we can control a little bit of their cash flow. If people would take a stand and make it unprofitable to act like this then they wouldn't.
Do you really want to only have the choice of Sony, EA, Microsoft, or Nintendo for your games? Competition drives innovation, and the less companies there are the less competition there is. Please people, I beg you to take a stand for once against these monolithic corporations! </rant>
I see both sides of the issue I guess. As a developer...it is important for the game world to have it's own economy independant of the real world. It is essential for virtual economies to exitst.
But, on the other hand I think that if someone wants to provide a service, they should be able to get paid for it. However, as I don't find fault with people working hard and making real money off of that work... I have a problem with the cheaters who buy all kinds of stuff without having to work for it. If you don't want to really play the game, then don't play it... I say ban the buyers not the sellers.
I too feel this may be an underlying goal of today's US gov't. I know these kind of ideas sound like crazy talk to most people...but if you take a long look at the way our country is headed, and the way the govt's been acting towards education and the like it's not very hard to come up with such conclusions. If the kids aren't aware of the first amendment and such, how will they ever notice it erased from their history books?
Was Orwell just off by about 25 years or so?
That's not really a very good assumption being that somebody bought gamecube.com before Nintendo announced it. Probably just some dumbass hoping to get lucky...
You talk as if there are that many games coming out for PC these days even in Windows either! lol.... All you get on PC is FPS,Strategy, and MMORPGs... everybody has fled to the consoles. Maybe if Linux and indy games started to take off more you might see something else besides those four games you mentioned on Linux and Windows both. The video game market may be making great sales figures but the entire industry is in a big slump as far as quality goes.
If you are really a game programmer, then you should know better than designing a game to work with only one platform! Any programmer worth a damn knows to develop multi-platform if they want to make any money. Go ahead and make your game in DirectX, good luck getting that to work on a PS2 or Gamecube, let alone Linux and Mac. OpenGL/AL and SDL make much more sense because you don't have to recode the thing everytime you release it on a different platform.
I been getting these foreign telemarketers the past 2 weeks as well! The first 10 times the lady sounded maybe African? But the last one was definitely Indian....every single one of them was for a "College Student" Visa... They call at all hours too! I get them on Saturdays....in fact, I was woke up at 8am this morning by one! >:(
Hasn't this posibility been posted on Slashdot before...many times? Sure the two firefox guys getting hired by Google is a good sign, but still....is this really anything we didn't already know?
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If there were some sort of open 3D hardware consortium....ATI and NVidia could be members, and they could work together and make technilogical progress faster than just fighting each other. We would still need those same engineers working for those same companies to contribute to the project, except everyone benefits rather than just a few. It's a win win situation.
I do and I'm at "work" too... Slashdot and Gmail are definately my biggest on the job vices.
I agree that there needs to be a better driver model in the kernel...you shouldn't have to reconfigure and recompile your kernel to add the nvidia driver to it...but, I'd still rather the source be both open and available...then again I use Gentoo.
Open does not equal free. Open means they play fair with everyone else...
" Please mod this troll down. I am French and I find it offensive. I don't laugh at you Americans because of Vietnam and North Korea so shut up about the World War II because American civilians have NEVER experienced such hell as we had here. Thank you."
I am an American, and I agree with you. If the dumbasses in my own country don't watch it, the whole world's gonna be gunning for us. Just because the French actually used their brains and realized we were only going to Iraq for oil, everyone here freaked out and started throwing out their wine and naming french fries "freedom fries" even though their not even really from France orginally!
That's the whole point! Whether or not "Joe Consumer" realizes it, this does affect them...maybe not directly, but eventually it will. People need to be informed that all this apathy is going to catch up with them before it's too late...and I'm not just talking about EA here.
We need open hardware
This is a good point. Many Linux enthusiasts get a little over zealous and asshole like towards the newbs. But the other guy has a point too, in that the whole reason to use Linux (or BSD) is because it is a free (as in freedom), open source operating system. Unfortunately neither ATI nor NVidia do the best jobs of opening up their code...but at least nVidia has better drivers for Linux. Windows doesn't have good driver support because of Microsoft, they have good drivers because the vendors actually support them. Alternative Open Hardware is coming though ;)
How far is EA going to go to piss people off? The just can't get enough bad press can they? However, the real problem is "how long are people going to act like consumers instead of activists?" Now going to one extreme or the other is always bad, you have to find a balance...but I am tired of seeing people act like mindless cattle. If EA treats it workers, customers, and compitition poorly, people need to boycott. We may not own any stocks in the company, but we can control a little bit of their cash flow. If people would take a stand and make it unprofitable to act like this then they wouldn't. Do you really want to only have the choice of Sony, EA, Microsoft, or Nintendo for your games? Competition drives innovation, and the less companies there are the less competition there is. Please people, I beg you to take a stand for once against these monolithic corporations!
</rant>
I see both sides of the issue I guess. As a developer...it is important for the game world to have it's own economy independant of the real world. It is essential for virtual economies to exitst.
But, on the other hand I think that if someone wants to provide a service, they should be able to get paid for it. However, as I don't find fault with people working hard and making real money off of that work... I have a problem with the cheaters who buy all kinds of stuff without having to work for it. If you don't want to really play the game, then don't play it... I say ban the buyers not the sellers.
I too feel this may be an underlying goal of today's US gov't. I know these kind of ideas sound like crazy talk to most people...but if you take a long look at the way our country is headed, and the way the govt's been acting towards education and the like it's not very hard to come up with such conclusions. If the kids aren't aware of the first amendment and such, how will they ever notice it erased from their history books? Was Orwell just off by about 25 years or so?
LOL! That's very true.... I get that all the time.
That's not really a very good assumption being that somebody bought gamecube.com before Nintendo announced it. Probably just some dumbass hoping to get lucky...
You talk as if there are that many games coming out for PC these days even in Windows either! lol.... All you get on PC is FPS,Strategy, and MMORPGs... everybody has fled to the consoles. Maybe if Linux and indy games started to take off more you might see something else besides those four games you mentioned on Linux and Windows both. The video game market may be making great sales figures but the entire industry is in a big slump as far as quality goes.
If you are really a game programmer, then you should know better than designing a game to work with only one platform! Any programmer worth a damn knows to develop multi-platform if they want to make any money. Go ahead and make your game in DirectX, good luck getting that to work on a PS2 or Gamecube, let alone Linux and Mac. OpenGL/AL and SDL make much more sense because you don't have to recode the thing everytime you release it on a different platform.
SDL is also another good tool that works for both ;)
Holy Shit! I just got another one not even 5 minutes after I posted that...
I been getting these foreign telemarketers the past 2 weeks as well! The first 10 times the lady sounded maybe African? But the last one was definitely Indian....every single one of them was for a "College Student" Visa... They call at all hours too! I get them on Saturdays....in fact, I was woke up at 8am this morning by one! >:(
If you are refering to "Enter the Matrix" it's a completely different game made by a different developer.
Unfortunately you give up all your rights, such as right to protest, when you click OK on that End User Licence Agreement :(
I would imagine that the guy who's moved Computer...whatever would like you to come read his new place now, not homelan.
very good point
You'd be better off with an open-source program like Peercast ;)
If anything it will just probably be a "Google Linux" distro...
Hasn't this posibility been posted on Slashdot before...many times? Sure the two firefox guys getting hired by Google is a good sign, but still....is this really anything we didn't already know?
*http://www.google.com/firefox