"..doesn't it mean it has some evolutionary advantages?"
Not necessarily, evolutionarily wise, a trait will not be propagated "just" because it is advantageous (although that does help), better to look at it as it will only be extinguished if it is disadvantageous (puts the member with those traits behind others in the group competitively).
But in our current society, where we prop up traits that would (in a more aggressive society (e.g. animal kingdom) be naturally extinguished (like autism, retardation, siamese twins, etc) it's hard to say what if any trait is beneficial or harmful. But this is what we choose to do (making no note here if it is morally right or wrong sto do so).
the appendix comes to mind of something which on the surface has no identifiable reason for being, but has not been "flushed" form the gene pool because it doesn't "harm" the gene pool (or more acurrately we "fix" the people it does harm).
()()()()()() sorry had to get those out of my system:)
"because the Germans weren't merely racist but wanted to build a 'master race' "
Well can you really say it was the Germans and not better put, one of the Nazi regime's (or certain members of the regime) end goal's?
many Germans might have bought into the ideal that Germans were of a "better" hereditary linage but can you say "Germany" was trying to build a "master race", i would say not, Hitler sure....
As an analogy, I don't think invading a sovereign country is "spreading freedom", but some political leaders do if you buy what they say...
I have let my kids play pretty much any game i own as soon as they wanted to play them, if they have had questions about any of it I have always been there to help them understand or learn.
I feel raising kids is mostly about helping them learn how to deal with what live entails, not shielding them from it (for the most part, running naked in a the streets has been a no no in my house but ymmv).
it has turned out that they gravitate to games that they enjoy because of what they offer.. my middle daughter likes games where you take care of things and watch them develop (like sims, neo pets, yu gi oh card games) my youngest son likes rpgs and FPSes that pose a strategical challenge and my oldest daughter is kinda meh to the whole gaming scene (she prefers music and is in her own band now).
My house has always been big on family interaction and mainly gaming, we own several consoles, have 4 PCs lanned up and i own pretty much any PC game released in the last 8 years or so (with the exception of mmorpgs) so it seems to me to be a good example but i could be wrong.
OH COME ON!!! he built a "windshield" for the dog, washed off the poop when needed and obviously was catering to the dog's love of the outdoors (ie fresh air).
i'm sure all cat lovers can agree this is perfectly acceptable.
"Likewise, I don't believe the bosses of scientology believe it any more than Hubbard did. "
It wouldn't matter what they actually believe, all you would have to do is make the subject widely known to the general public so that the "high counsel" or whatever would have to address it, to not address it would cause the members who DO currently believe to doubt the commitment of the "high counsel" to the doctrines of L Ron Hubbard.
Much in the way that members of the catholic faith left in droves when the molestation scandal became widely known and the leaders still did nothing, only after they were perceived to have taken action did the bleeding end somewhat.
hmm, yah, i try to avoid trailers as nowadays they tend to show you so much what's the point of watching the movie, i know the plot, characters, best parts and the ending, so i was mainly interested because of the first two, maybe i'll pass and rent saw4 instead( can';t get enough of jigsaw). Thanks for the heads up.
if you could get a computation to figure out the mass and molecular composition of an object, disassembly of the mass>turn into energy>transmit energy>translate into mass>re-assemble.
Theoretically it should be doable although highly intensive energy wise (not worth it). BUT i would think at that point it would just be easier (and possible) to create the object from stored mass by just using a molecular blueprint that could be transmitted. (replicators?)
"But you never answered the question of "unavoidable media". The media is avoidable, and easily so. Media is only unavoidable to those who "must have" it."
Yes i did, buses, billboards, public radios playing in any stores, newspapers, shopping carts, mall posters, etc, etc, etc.
Unless you mean to say if i never leave my house, open my eyes, buy food or clothing, then yes you are right it is totally avoidable, what a great point/sarcasm
As I love the show let me quote from Futurama:
"Didn't you have ads in the twentieth century?" -Leela "Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio...and in magazines...and movies, and at ballgames, and on buses, and milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written in the sky. But not in dreams, no sirree." -Fry
"But you never answered the question of "unavoidable media". The media is avoidable, and easily so. Media is only unavoidable to those who "must have" it."
Yes i did, buses, billboards, public radios playing in any stores, newspapers, shopping carts, mall posters, etc, etc, etc.
Unless you mean to say if i never leave my house, open my eyes, buy food or clothing, then yes you are right it is totally unavoidable, what a great point/sarcasm
As I love the show let me quote from Futurama:
"Didn't you have ads in the twentieth century?" -Leela "Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio...and in magazines...and movies, and at ballgames, and on buses, and milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written in the sky. But not in dreams, no sirree." -Fry
"Easy. Just ask yourself, "Is this movie based on a video game?" If the answer is yes, avoid it."
I've enjoyed video game movies tho, like the resident evil series, i liked the first two (waiting to see the last one) and the Doom movie was fun, of course they will always deviate some from the actual game series but compared to the horrific butchering of Ewe that recent game movies have been subject to, the Doom and resident evil movies were timeless works of art.
I'd actually like to take him up on his offer to fight in a ring, and then smash his head in with a lead pipe, i'd call it creative license.
"I'm sure I misquoted it. Guess that means I'm incompetent;)"
Oh i wasn't saying that, i think you quoted it correctly as i see this come up all the time on/. with the same syntax, just bugs me is all:) (besides we both know you were being malicous:P)
Now how will i know which movie based on a game to avoid?
I mean it's good in the sense that he won't be butchering the story lines we love so much with horrible scripts and inane dialog, and game-movies will get better box office returns which will only help to make better funding available for more game-movies, and possibly make games seem more like art than time wasters (which most definitely are)to the average public, but.. um, on the downside... hmm, i guess there is no downside to Ewe not making game movies.
Maybe he can start making romantic comedies so my wife will avoid those too? I can only hope.
") Play the game on the server - don't let the client cheat. (Quake-style multiplayer - you press shoot, it checks for ammo)
2) Don't make the game so pathetic that it can be played by a bot."
No to mention the exponential increase in server power needed, how do you do this with regards to wall hacks or aimbots? you still need to provide the client with information relating to where the player is located, if the client has that info then it can manipulate the client's responses.
The only real solution to in game cheating is in game admins, just like referees in sports.
You can automate it to some (small degree) but ultimately i don't see anyway to completely control everything server side without massive bandwidth and computing power we don't currently have.
"Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence."
Never?? NEVER?!
So if there is a chance something was done because of incompetence, you have the perfect scapegoat?
That saying is stupid.. I could see something along the lines of "what is attributed to malice is actually incompetence", but to follow this saying as it reads is just stupid... or purposely evil.
"Excellent post. It reminds me of the fact that the 9/11 hijackers all had legitimate IDs. Someone else had legitimate ID. Now who was that...? Oh, yes, Timothy McVeigh."
Yes but you are missing the point, those were just IDs, these are REAL IDs, much safer.. i thought you would have noticed by the name?
"Capitalism would expect companies to try to sell their products. It also expects the consumers to make appropriate decisions (to say "no"). "
everyone knows that the best advertising you can get is word of mouth, if you have a product that is the best, in a system with no advertising, that product will "beat" any other competitor.
what advertising seeks to do is sell a product that is neither not needed or not "best of breed" or is defective in some way.
I have no problem with capitalism per se, just with advertising, Esp with modern advertising which is not about informing the public about a product but about shaping the publics view of a product or company and their desire to consume such products.
"Too many people are overwhelmed by peer pressure and cannot make good decisions. See also "herd mentality"."
If you mean that so many people are convinced by advertising that their lives are incomplete in some way, and this is re-enforced by everyone around them believing the same thing, then i would agree.
"How is media unavoidable? I'm fairly certain that you can turn off your TV, radio and sit in a dark room. "
I can't walk down the street with out being assaulted by bus ads, billboards, radios blaring. I can't shop in a grocery store without seeing adds on carts, in the aisles, on the back of my receipt. I can't look in my mailbox or pay a bill without seeing at least 5 ads staring back at me. I can't read a newspaper or magazine without ads literally falling from the pages.
I change the channel on TV or radio (when it is in my control) when an ad comes on, block them from all websites i visit, and do my best to avoid it but it IS un-avoidable.
Do you actually live in the US?
"That is the equivalent to claiming that it isn't your fault you raped a girl, she was wearing a short skirt and was asking for it."
no it is the equivalent to claiming that it isn't your fault for a hard on when you are continually being given a lap dance.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss that, i mean ultimately we have the choice of what to buy and how to spend our money, but when you are deluged day in and day out, in every from of un-avoidable media, that what you have is not good enough, all you need is more, and ways to get this stuff without having to save for it, then maybe capitialism IS to blame in some part at the very least.
Corporations have more too much control in our lives and government to not blame them for "some" of the inherent mess that comes from a nation of "consumers" and not "constituents" .
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"..doesn't it mean it has some evolutionary advantages?"
:)
Not necessarily, evolutionarily wise, a trait will not be propagated "just" because it is advantageous (although that does help), better to look at it as it will only be extinguished if it is disadvantageous (puts the member with those traits behind others in the group competitively).
But in our current society, where we prop up traits that would (in a more aggressive society (e.g. animal kingdom) be naturally extinguished (like autism, retardation, siamese twins, etc) it's hard to say what if any trait is beneficial or harmful. But this is what we choose to do (making no note here if it is morally right or wrong sto do so).
the appendix comes to mind of something which on the surface has no identifiable reason for being, but has not been "flushed" form the gene pool because it doesn't "harm" the gene pool (or more acurrately we "fix" the people it does harm).
()()()()()() sorry had to get those out of my system
"because the Germans weren't merely racist but wanted to build a 'master race' "
Well can you really say it was the Germans and not better put, one of the Nazi regime's (or certain members of the regime) end goal's?
many Germans might have bought into the ideal that Germans were of a "better" hereditary linage but can you say "Germany" was trying to build a "master race", i would say not, Hitler sure....
As an analogy, I don't think invading a sovereign country is "spreading freedom", but some political leaders do if you buy what they say...
says "you'll never change" I guess now i have a genetic excuse.
I have let my kids play pretty much any game i own as soon as they wanted to play them, if they have had questions about any of it I have always been there to help them understand or learn.
I feel raising kids is mostly about helping them learn how to deal with what live entails, not shielding them from it (for the most part, running naked in a the streets has been a no no in my house but ymmv).
it has turned out that they gravitate to games that they enjoy because of what they offer.. my middle daughter likes games where you take care of things and watch them develop (like sims, neo pets, yu gi oh card games) my youngest son likes rpgs and FPSes that pose a strategical challenge and my oldest daughter is kinda meh to the whole gaming scene (she prefers music and is in her own band now).
My house has always been big on family interaction and mainly gaming, we own several consoles, have 4 PCs lanned up and i own pretty much any PC game released in the last 8 years or so (with the exception of mmorpgs) so it seems to me to be a good example but i could be wrong.
"Here's at least one fault I can find."
OH COME ON!!! he built a "windshield" for the dog, washed off the poop when needed and obviously was catering to the dog's love of the outdoors (ie fresh air).
i'm sure all cat lovers can agree this is perfectly acceptable.
"Likewise, I don't believe the bosses of scientology believe it any more than Hubbard did. "
It wouldn't matter what they actually believe, all you would have to do is make the subject widely known to the general public so that the "high counsel" or whatever would have to address it, to not address it would cause the members who DO currently believe to doubt the commitment of the "high counsel" to the doctrines of L Ron Hubbard.
Much in the way that members of the catholic faith left in droves when the molestation scandal became widely known and the leaders still did nothing, only after they were perceived to have taken action did the bleeding end somewhat.
"Is there a bigger discount if I include a 2nd child?"
Boy or girl?
hmm, yah, i try to avoid trailers as nowadays they tend to show you so much what's the point of watching the movie, i know the plot, characters, best parts and the ending, so i was mainly interested because of the first two, maybe i'll pass and rent saw4 instead( can';t get enough of jigsaw). Thanks for the heads up.
if you could get a computation to figure out the mass and molecular composition of an object, disassembly of the mass>turn into energy>transmit energy>translate into mass>re-assemble.
Theoretically it should be doable although highly intensive energy wise (not worth it). BUT i would think at that point it would just be easier (and possible) to create the object from stored mass by just using a molecular blueprint that could be transmitted. (replicators?)
Stupid preview, my reply should be:
/sarcasm
"But you never answered the question of "unavoidable media". The media is avoidable, and easily so. Media is only unavoidable to those who "must have" it."
Yes i did, buses, billboards, public radios playing in any stores, newspapers, shopping carts, mall posters, etc, etc, etc.
Unless you mean to say if i never leave my house, open my eyes, buy food or clothing, then yes you are right it is totally avoidable, what a great point
As I love the show let me quote from Futurama:
"Didn't you have ads in the twentieth century?" -Leela
"Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio...and in
magazines...and movies, and at ballgames, and on buses, and
milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written in the sky. But not in
dreams, no sirree." -Fry
"But you never answered the question of "unavoidable media". The media is avoidable, and easily so. Media is only unavoidable to those who "must have" it."
/sarcasm
Yes i did, buses, billboards, public radios playing in any stores, newspapers, shopping carts, mall posters, etc, etc, etc.
Unless you mean to say if i never leave my house, open my eyes, buy food or clothing, then yes you are right it is totally unavoidable, what a great point
As I love the show let me quote from Futurama:
"Didn't you have ads in the twentieth century?" -Leela
"Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio...and in
magazines...and movies, and at ballgames, and on buses, and
milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written in the sky. But not in
dreams, no sirree." -Fry
"Easy. Just ask yourself, "Is this movie based on a video game?" If the answer is yes, avoid it."
I've enjoyed video game movies tho, like the resident evil series, i liked the first two (waiting to see the last one) and the Doom movie was fun, of course they will always deviate some from the actual game series but compared to the horrific butchering of Ewe that recent game movies have been subject to, the Doom and resident evil movies were timeless works of art.
I'd actually like to take him up on his offer to fight in a ring, and then smash his head in with a lead pipe, i'd call it creative license.
"I'm sure I misquoted it. Guess that means I'm incompetent ;)"
/. with the same syntax, just bugs me is all :) (besides we both know you were being malicous :P)
Oh i wasn't saying that, i think you quoted it correctly as i see this come up all the time on
Now how will i know which movie based on a game to avoid?
I mean it's good in the sense that he won't be butchering the story lines we love so much with horrible scripts and inane dialog, and game-movies will get better box office returns which will only help to make better funding available for more game-movies, and possibly make games seem more like art than time wasters (which most definitely are)to the average public, but.. um, on the downside... hmm, i guess there is no downside to Ewe not making game movies.
Maybe he can start making romantic comedies so my wife will avoid those too? I can only hope.
") Play the game on the server - don't let the client cheat. (Quake-style multiplayer - you press shoot, it checks for ammo)
2) Don't make the game so pathetic that it can be played by a bot."
No to mention the exponential increase in server power needed, how do you do this with regards to wall hacks or aimbots? you still need to provide the client with information relating to where the player is located, if the client has that info then it can manipulate the client's responses.
The only real solution to in game cheating is in game admins, just like referees in sports.
You can automate it to some (small degree) but ultimately i don't see anyway to completely control everything server side without massive bandwidth and computing power we don't currently have.
"Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence."
Never?? NEVER?!
So if there is a chance something was done because of incompetence, you have the perfect scapegoat?
That saying is stupid.. I could see something along the lines of "what is attributed to malice is actually incompetence", but to follow this saying as it reads is just stupid... or purposely evil.
"off means X-Box Live is less happy but that only decreases the number of people who can call me "fag" on a daily basis."
Imagine how far it would decrease if you stopped posting on slashdot... fag.
"Firefox with AdBlock+, EasyElement, EasyList, SpyBot S&D, SpywareBlaster, disable Flash and UPnP,"
but then you're not "supporting" the websites you visit?
"They obviously can't find a good sysadmin that can project future load on their servers and scale accordingly ;)"
or recogniZe a literate webmaster.
"Excellent post. It reminds me of the fact that the 9/11 hijackers all had legitimate IDs.
Someone else had legitimate ID. Now who was that...?
Oh, yes, Timothy McVeigh."
Yes but you are missing the point, those were just IDs, these are REAL IDs, much safer.. i thought you would have noticed by the name?
Does anyone else get a feeling like they are in a kafka-esque story when they hear the phrase "TSA lighter guidelines"?
"Capitalism would expect companies to try to sell their products. It also expects the consumers to make appropriate decisions (to say "no"). "
everyone knows that the best advertising you can get is word of mouth, if you have a product that is the best, in a system with no advertising, that product will "beat" any other competitor.
what advertising seeks to do is sell a product that is neither not needed or not "best of breed" or is defective in some way.
I have no problem with capitalism per se, just with advertising, Esp with modern advertising which is not about informing the public about a product but about shaping the publics view of a product or company and their desire to consume such products.
"Too many people are overwhelmed by peer pressure and cannot make good decisions. See also "herd mentality"."
If you mean that so many people are convinced by advertising that their lives are incomplete in some way, and this is re-enforced by everyone around them believing the same thing, then i would agree.
"It would be more productive (IMHO) to address society's overall lack of willpower and restraint than to restrict those who profit from it."
I agree, but it's hard to get through rehab when you live in a pharmacy.
"How is media unavoidable? I'm fairly certain that you can turn off your TV, radio and sit in a dark room. "
I can't walk down the street with out being assaulted by bus ads, billboards, radios blaring. I can't shop in a grocery store without seeing adds on carts, in the aisles, on the back of my receipt. I can't look in my mailbox or pay a bill without seeing at least 5 ads staring back at me. I can't read a newspaper or magazine without ads literally falling from the pages.
I change the channel on TV or radio (when it is in my control) when an ad comes on, block them from all websites i visit, and do my best to avoid it but it IS un-avoidable.
Do you actually live in the US?
"That is the equivalent to claiming that it isn't your fault you raped a girl, she was wearing a short skirt and was asking for it."
no it is the equivalent to claiming that it isn't your fault for a hard on when you are continually being given a lap dance.
"they just aren't caused by capitalism."
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss that, i mean ultimately we have the choice of what to buy and how to spend our money, but when you are deluged day in and day out, in every from of un-avoidable media, that what you have is not good enough, all you need is more, and ways to get this stuff without having to save for it, then maybe capitialism IS to blame in some part at the very least.
Corporations have more too much control in our lives and government to not blame them for "some" of the inherent mess that comes from a nation of "consumers" and not "constituents" .