Posted this higher up so I might get some feedback..
While reading TFA, I had a thought.
If you get subpoenaed just submit to the judge that yes you did download but you own a license for every song you downloaded so you didn't break the law.
Then find out what songs they list in their brief against you and go buy it in legit form, like singles, cd, etc...
That way when you have to prove that you have the license for the copyright you will have it and save yourself about $735 per song (since the minimum is a $750 fine per song copyright violation).
Seems a lot beter than giving the bloodsucking RIAA lawyers your money plus tying up their time in court making it futile to continue on suing people en-mass because of the cost of litigation (if everyone who was subpoenaed did this).
If you get subpoenaed just submit to the judge that yes you did download but you own a license for every song you downloaded so you didn't break the law.
Then find out what songs they list in their brief against you and go buy it in legit form, like singles, cd, etc...
That way when you have to prove that you have the license for the copyright you will have it and save yourself about $735 per song (since the minimum is a $750 fine per song copyright violation).
Seems a lot beter than giving the bloodsucking RIAA lawyers your money plus tying up their time in court making it futile to continue on suing people en-mass because of the cost of litigation (if everyone who was subpoenaed did this).
"Fry's doesn't check outgoing receipts because they don't trust their customers, but because they don't trust their employees. They're looking for the kind of scam that can be worked with the cooperation of the cashier. Kinda gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling about ever working there, huh?"
Well I had a friend who was a door Nazi at Fry's and he told me that they actually get bonuses if they find mistakes on receipts, in the order of 10% of the mistaken price (in either direction, for or against the company).
SO maybe it's not all about catching dishonest employees OR this is just another way to ensure that door Nazis will rat out any of the bad apples at cashier...
"Agreed. I'm surprised that their "forced illegal door search" policy hasn't resulted in a shooting, or at least a firearm being drawn."
Fry's electronics has the same policy, in both cases I just hold up my hand and say "no thank you" as I walk out the door when they try to look in my bags.
If they want to stop me they can, but then i can sue for false imprisonment.
I refuse to be treated like a criminal for shopping at someone's store (even though they do just by trying to stop me at the door).
" Only later, when they get to the point that they start to make money for those few that do do they begin to do it only for the money. "
A great example of this would be the band Metallica, when they first started out, they encoured their fans to bootlegs their concerts and distribute their music, millions of dollars later you see Lars testifying before congress about how music sharing is "immoral".
Well if this was possible to track yes, but they don't see when usage goes up or down in a day, all they read (at least in the US) is how much usage in a period, like a month.
I'm pretty sure they don't have daily usage tracking or they wouldn't be sending someone out to check my meter every month;)
"The current market will just dry up overnight when 7-11 comes to market with crappy dope for twice the current street price. That'll work well."
If it's legal you could grow it, if it was legal it would be twice as good and half the price of street drugs... a blackmarket typical inflates prices, not decreases them...
I wonder if they actually do this currently in the US, I have 4 computers in my house, typically on all the time with 4 CRTs, if this doesn't generate enough wattage to flag me I dunno what would;)
"This does not prove my statement "wrong", as you so boldly state"
My point is that if no one bought the games at 50+ dollars, 6 months later they would most definitely drop the price in order to generate sales, it has nothing to do with a "target number" it has to do with what the market will pay, so yes you are wrong for stating:
"If more people waited 6-12 months to purchase a game, the length of time before the publishers dropped the price would just increase."
"First of all, it's not artificially inflated. Why do you believe the price is artifically inflated?"
Because because they are set by the manufactuer of the games. If you have a good game you can sell millions of copies at 20 each, just because we pay more doesn't mean they are worth it. It's called greed (what a capitialistic society is based on right?).
"What about 3 million sold at $50 and 2 million sold at $20-30; which makes more profit? Your example is idiotic"
So you're saying there are more people who can afford 50 bucks rather than 20? Yah i'm the idiot..
Everyone who can pay 50 can pay 20-30 so you can obviously just add those to the total number of units sold at a lower price... there is a finite number of people who can afford 50-60 dollars per game and obviously more who can afford a cheaper price point.
"I'd appreciate it if you were to respond with factual arguments instead of your ramblings based on no data or evidence, even anecdotal."
Yah i should have followed your example of a post chocked full of "facts"... my bad.
"If more people waited 6-12 months to purchase a game, the length of time before the publishers dropped the price would just increase. You should be encouraging fewer people to wait 6-12 months. The more people who buy the game on the first day it is released, the faster the publisher will drop the price. "
Wrong, doom3 dropped their price in less than 6 months, halflife 2 is still going for 60+, they both sold about the same in the first few weeks/months.
"Waiting will merely lead to the company waiting longer because their research shows the game needs to sell X number of copies before they will lower the price."
No waiting will ensure that they go broke if noone buys the game at their artificially inflated 50+ dollar price...
Do the math, 1 million games sold at 50 bucks, or 5 million sold at 20-30 dollars, which generates more profit?
When you make the games affordable so anyone can buy them you will reduce piracy and generate bigger interest in the game.. anyone remember this little title called Serious Sam? How about it's sequel...
---------------- I consider myself a liberal, does that count?
"Please stop trolling and pretending, as we follow the laws of the land [lds.org], regardless."
What if there was a law that was contrary to the teachings of the Bible or your prophets? Which would you follow, the Bible/prophets or the laws of the land you resided in?
"The religion was founded on asking questions, and missionaries from the Church encourage thoughtful contemplation of the meaning of life in respect to the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ. "
I have to call BS on this, I was baptized by mormons but do not believe a lot of their "scriptures", but because I was baptized by them, every new group of missionaries who come by say hi to me and ask why I haven't been to church lately.
So I explain the whole situation and ask them some questions about their religion and they say they will study and get back to me with answers, promptly the Bishops forbid them to talk to me and I never hear from them again.
This happens about every 2 months with new missionaries.
Well it's good and all that the FCC went after a mom and pops telco, i'd be happier seeing a 150,000 fine for one of the big players you have listed if they block the same traffic (as I think i saw an article saying one or more of them had?)
"One think you have to say for Apple, a 1.25 GHz bus is nothing to balk at compared to Intel/AMD..."
That's weird, I just saw an article on Doom3 performance on a g5 compared to AMD or Intel based PCs, guess who won? Even with their "smaller" bus speeds?
Yah you know who (even if you don't want to admit it) on the scale of 20% or so faster.
Unless you are talking about game _Servers_, thats all about cpu cycles with the more cpus/cycles the better (ram helps a bit too;)) so with SMP and quake3 you can really see a benefit allowing you to run higher player limit games.
Since most of today's games have dedicated server counterparts, I would like to see the SMP effort on server releases first, then if they get around to it, on the gamers side also;)
They say they are losing 2.4 billion a year to piracy, thats about 200,000,000 CDs that aren't getting sold due to piracy? there are only 294 million americans in the US, if you narrow that down to the "market" demographics that means people are buying 10+CDs a year and stealing 4? That can't be right?
Now they say that the prices for online music is too cheap? WHAAA?!?
One CD = average 10-14 songs One song download = 99cents or more = $10-14 dollars for a full CD's worth of music...
So RIGHT NOW, you are paying the same exact price as if you bought 14 songs on a CD in a store(but online you can actually get 14 songs that you like instead of 3 good songs and 11 filler...) so why are online downloads not expensive enough?
Does the recording industry have no shame when it comes to pure greed?
the TSA has already admitted this policy exists but will not disclose the policy/law.
If an airline doesn't abide by the policy then that's on their heads... doesn't mean the law doesn't exist, it does...they admitted it, just won't say what it is
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Posted this higher up so I might get some feedback..
While reading TFA, I had a thought.
If you get subpoenaed just submit to the judge that yes you did download but you own a license for every song you downloaded so you didn't break the law.
Then find out what songs they list in their brief against you and go buy it in legit form, like singles, cd, etc...
That way when you have to prove that you have the license for the copyright you will have it and save yourself about $735 per song (since the minimum is a $750 fine per song copyright violation).
Seems a lot beter than giving the bloodsucking RIAA lawyers your money plus tying up their time in court making it futile to continue on suing people en-mass because of the cost of litigation (if everyone who was subpoenaed did this).
While reading TFA, I had a thought.
If you get subpoenaed just submit to the judge that yes you did download but you own a license for every song you downloaded so you didn't break the law.
Then find out what songs they list in their brief against you and go buy it in legit form, like singles, cd, etc...
That way when you have to prove that you have the license for the copyright you will have it and save yourself about $735 per song (since the minimum is a $750 fine per song copyright violation).
Seems a lot beter than giving the bloodsucking RIAA lawyers your money plus tying up their time in court making it futile to continue on suing people en-mass because of the cost of litigation (if everyone who was subpoenaed did this).
I gues 85% of americans would be considered "Addicted" to TV since they spend upwards of 30-40 hours a week watching TV?
"Fry's doesn't check outgoing receipts because they don't trust their customers, but because they don't trust their employees. They're looking for the kind of scam that can be worked with the cooperation of the cashier. Kinda gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling about ever working there, huh?"
Well I had a friend who was a door Nazi at Fry's and he told me that they actually get bonuses if they find mistakes on receipts, in the order of 10% of the mistaken price (in either direction, for or against the company).
SO maybe it's not all about catching dishonest employees OR this is just another way to ensure that door Nazis will rat out any of the bad apples at cashier...
"Agreed. I'm surprised that their "forced illegal door search" policy hasn't resulted in a shooting, or at least a firearm being drawn."
Fry's electronics has the same policy, in both cases I just hold up my hand and say "no thank you" as I walk out the door when they try to look in my bags.
If they want to stop me they can, but then i can sue for false imprisonment.
I refuse to be treated like a criminal for shopping at someone's store (even though they do just by trying to stop me at the door).
" Only later, when they get to the point that they start to make money for those few that do do they begin to do it only for the money. "
A great example of this would be the band Metallica, when they first started out, they encoured their fans to bootlegs their concerts and distribute their music, millions of dollars later you see Lars testifying before congress about how music sharing is "immoral".
" Most soldiers who play Dungeons and Dragons simply do not admit to it while they are in teh army, he says. "
In other news, Israeli reporters like to play teh Counter-strike!! Pwned!!!
Seems like every day there is a new slashdot article entitled "Is (fill in the blank) Google's new Frontier?".
Is Google really going for "everything" under the sun or is Slashdot just fascinated with this company?
Well if this was possible to track yes, but they don't see when usage goes up or down in a day, all they read (at least in the US) is how much usage in a period, like a month.
;)
I'm pretty sure they don't have daily usage tracking or they wouldn't be sending someone out to check my meter every month
"The current market will just dry up overnight when 7-11 comes to market with crappy dope for twice the current street price. That'll work well."
If it's legal you could grow it, if it was legal it would be twice as good and half the price of street drugs... a blackmarket typical inflates prices, not decreases them...
I wonder if they actually do this currently in the US, I have 4 computers in my house, typically on all the time with 4 CRTs, if this doesn't generate enough wattage to flag me I dunno what would ;)
"that drugs are good for curing mental problems."
But only those that are patentable and deemed "Legal".
"This does not prove my statement "wrong", as you so boldly state"
My point is that if no one bought the games at 50+ dollars, 6 months later they would most definitely drop the price in order to generate sales, it has nothing to do with a "target number" it has to do with what the market will pay, so yes you are wrong for stating:
"If more people waited 6-12 months to purchase a game, the length of time before the publishers dropped the price would just increase."
"First of all, it's not artificially inflated. Why do you believe the price is artifically inflated?"
Because because they are set by the manufactuer of the games. If you have a good game you can sell millions of copies at 20 each, just because we pay more doesn't mean they are worth it. It's called greed (what a capitialistic society is based on right?).
"What about 3 million sold at $50 and 2 million sold at $20-30; which makes more profit? Your example is idiotic"
So you're saying there are more people who can afford 50 bucks rather than 20? Yah i'm the idiot..
Everyone who can pay 50 can pay 20-30 so you can obviously just add those to the total number of units sold at a lower price... there is a finite number of people who can afford 50-60 dollars per game and obviously more who can afford a cheaper price point.
"I'd appreciate it if you were to respond with factual arguments instead of your ramblings based on no data or evidence, even anecdotal."
Yah i should have followed your example of a post chocked full of "facts"... my bad.
"If more people waited 6-12 months to purchase a game, the length of time before the publishers dropped the price would just increase. You should be encouraging fewer people to wait 6-12 months. The more people who buy the game on the first day it is released, the faster the publisher will drop the price. "
Wrong, doom3 dropped their price in less than 6 months, halflife 2 is still going for 60+, they both sold about the same in the first few weeks/months.
"Waiting will merely lead to the company waiting longer because their research shows the game needs to sell X number of copies before they will lower the price."
No waiting will ensure that they go broke if noone buys the game at their artificially inflated 50+ dollar price...
Do the math, 1 million games sold at 50 bucks, or 5 million sold at 20-30 dollars, which generates more profit?
When you make the games affordable so anyone can buy them you will reduce piracy and generate bigger interest in the game.. anyone remember this little title called Serious Sam? How about it's sequel...
----------------
I consider myself a liberal, does that count?
"Please stop trolling and pretending, as we follow the laws of the land [lds.org], regardless."
What if there was a law that was contrary to the teachings of the Bible or your prophets? Which would you follow, the Bible/prophets or the laws of the land you resided in?
Just curious...
"The religion was founded on asking questions, and missionaries from the Church encourage thoughtful contemplation of the meaning of life in respect to the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ. "
I have to call BS on this, I was baptized by mormons but do not believe a lot of their "scriptures", but because I was baptized by them, every new group of missionaries who come by say hi to me and ask why I haven't been to church lately.
So I explain the whole situation and ask them some questions about their religion and they say they will study and get back to me with answers, promptly the Bishops forbid them to talk to me and I never hear from them again.
This happens about every 2 months with new missionaries.
Well it's good and all that the FCC went after a mom and pops telco, i'd be happier seeing a 150,000 fine for one of the big players you have listed if they block the same traffic (as I think i saw an article saying one or more of them had?)
here ya go :)
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http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/03/02/doom3/i
I don't use any formatting so you might have to find the space and remove it when you cut and paste...
cheers
She was an old vietnamese lady, she was using a large cutting knife for peeling.
;)
just some clarification
"One think you have to say for Apple, a 1.25 GHz bus is nothing to balk at compared to Intel/AMD..."
:P)
That's weird, I just saw an article on Doom3 performance on a g5 compared to AMD or Intel based PCs, guess who won? Even with their "smaller" bus speeds?
Yah you know who (even if you don't want to admit it) on the scale of 20% or so faster.
(ps it was the PCs
Unless you are talking about game _Servers_, thats all about cpu cycles with the more cpus/cycles the better (ram helps a bit too ;)) so with SMP and quake3 you can really see a benefit allowing you to run higher player limit games.
;)
Since most of today's games have dedicated server counterparts, I would like to see the SMP effort on server releases first, then if they get around to it, on the gamers side also
it's three. SPARC has three register.
I find his songs to be entertaining, both witty and pleasant to listen to (good beat, nice mixing) and some of them I find to be quite catchy.
But everyone has different tastes.
Too bad i can't think of anything I want answered by him (everything to know about him is either on the website or on numerous fansites...)
They say they are losing 2.4 billion a year to piracy, thats about 200,000,000 CDs that aren't getting sold due to piracy? there are only 294 million americans in the US, if you narrow that down to the "market" demographics that means people are buying 10+CDs a year and stealing 4? That can't be right?
Now they say that the prices for online music is too cheap? WHAAA?!?
One CD = average 10-14 songs
One song download = 99cents or more = $10-14 dollars for a full CD's worth of music...
So RIGHT NOW, you are paying the same exact price as if you bought 14 songs on a CD in a store(but online you can actually get 14 songs that you like instead of 3 good songs and 11 filler...) so why are online downloads not expensive enough?
Does the recording industry have no shame when it comes to pure greed?
the TSA has already admitted this policy exists but will not disclose the policy/law.
.they admitted it, just won't say what it is
If an airline doesn't abide by the policy then that's on their heads... doesn't mean the law doesn't exist, it does..