When you download, you are not importing. You are reproducing.
Just trying to understand your argument...
How do I "reproduce" something without having a copy of it to begin with? In other words, how can someone be accused of making a copy of a protected work when they never possessed the original work to make a copy from?
Isn't it more logical to say Allofmp3 made a copy of the work and sold it to the downloader? The downloader was not the producer of the copy.
In all fairness to the GP post, the reality is we're already paying for a service plan and multi-mega pixel camera phones are right around the corner... plus I ALWAYS have my cell phone on me, so this functionality already exists but it is "no additional cost" not "free".
Note that PDF is also right out with this proposal.
Actually, if you RTFA PDF is allowed in the proposal.
The real issue is MS Office doesn't write in an open format. This rule isn't banning MS Office, just any product that doesn't write in an open format. Microsoft could compete for the desktops of Mass Gov employees if they did. I'm guessing they would still lose that competition.
Won't this issue have a way of working itself out? Here is an analogy for you. XFree86 vs. X.org. The larger community didn't like what the original organization was doing with the project. So they forked, developed something superior, and rendered XFree86 obsolete. Why can't the international community do that with root servers? Sure it would cause havoc for a bit, but that's what makes the internet a interesting moving target.
That's like saying since the automobile as we know it today (both the technology and its accessibility to the average person) came into existence as a result of American effort, then the US government should be able to retain control over Ford's production lines? (I know, it's kind of a flawed metaphor, since Hitler is largely to thank for creating the concept of the "volkswagen", literally "the people's car".)
Only if the US gov't developed the Ford Model-T... But that was private enterprise, not gov't funded programs like DARPA. I believe Ford should "retain control over Ford's production lines."
I don't really see the Patriot Act as even really limiting when talking about that kind of basic freedom. I mean, so the FBI can now figure out what you checked out from the library
If checking out a book puts me on the short list to Gitmo because something happens in my city at the same time then that is a loss of liberty... If everyone is too scared to seek out information, how are they "free" to still seek it out?
Hate to give a big fat "we told you so". [sarcasm]Who would have thought a company would change rules to squeeze more money out of their paying customers?[/sarcasm]
Just wait until Apple decides to change a4p rules and these same customers try and activate a "new machine."
...under American law, the downloader does indeed infringe copyright and may be pursued in the civil courts by the copyright holder...
Can you give a single example of when this was the case? Even the RIAA is suing "distributors" not downloaders. How does copyright apply to simply aquiring a copyrighted work? The downloader is not making unauthorized copies of anyones work.
To give another example, if a store was burning CDs and selling them without the copyright holders' permission, you're arguement is the copyright holder is able to go after the customers along with the store.
I don't think this has ever held up in court, but prove me wrong.
Interesting... I was just making a joke without background knowledge on Venezuela. I just found in the GP post if you replaced "Venezuela" with "U.S" the same things could be said.
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There are persons who live in absolute misery (they cannot even afford food)...
There are poor who can afford food, but cannot have much luxury...
There are poor who have somewhat better paying jobs...
There are many others who were previously middle class, but now are now poor...
Linux is essentially developed by geeks for geeks, and, as a generality, geeks have little time/patience with the "clueless newbie unwashed" who need their hands held.
I'm getting sick of this same old nit on the linux community. Someone else is going to respond with "But I set it up for my grandmother, blah, blah, blah..."
How much "time/patience" do MS Windows gurus have for the clueless computer users. I'd say that the linux community actually has some very helpful people.
... centrino wireless networking drivers?... NTFS drivers (read only ok)... Mono/ASP.NET?... an X config that supports 1920x1200 displays
According to the new features page it supports centrino and mono. NTFS (read only) was supported in 9.1. I'm not sure about the large display size. Did you have issues with that display setting in other versions/flavors?
Does anyone know the differences between the boxed retail version and th
e ftp install version?
I am sure that chinese citizens would rather have censored news than no news.
Wouldn't censored news actually be worse then no news? I feel a likening to 1984 but can't place it. Control of the information citizens recieve is very powerful. The Chinese people would know Google.com is blocked from the firewall if they got a 404. They might not realize that they are being censored if they get back modified search results.
I'm not quite sure what makes this a Troll. I was simply commenting on the overly simplistic wording that Valenti uses to basically act like fair use does not exist... Does the public believe him?
Well at least 1/2 the moderators (at this time) found it insightful instead of trolling...
" But movie and music executives warned that the proposal would strip their industries of important tools to limit piracy. The head of the Motion Picture Association of America, Jack Valenti, showed lawmakers a copy of the DVD mystery "Runaway Jury" he said was purchased on the black market in downtown Washington and produced using 321's disputed software. Valenti said the bill "legalizes hacking."
Just more Valenti FUD. If you want to limit "piracy" why not write better tools instead of making it a crime to alter your own hardware. I also didn't realize that hacking was illegal... Is the American public really dumb enough to believe the only purpose of DVD copies is to profit?
This is great. A couple developers here at work are trying to get Linux for their workstations. Hooking into Exchange was always a set back. IT did not want to pay for the connector, since it already paid for Outlook.
This is just one less hurdle to overcome. I aplaud Novel's decision.
Rail Trains - all but dead
True, but not because of government regulation. In fact, it was lack of government foresight that allowed the auto and tire industries to shut down rail-based public transit.
This is not exactly true either. Detroit was smart enough to get the government to pay for all the roads... The train companies had to maintain their own infrastructure. They didn't stand a chance.
The same could happen to telecos if government gets involved.
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How do I "reproduce" something without having a copy of it to begin with? In other words, how can someone be accused of making a copy of a protected work when they never possessed the original work to make a copy from?
Isn't it more logical to say Allofmp3 made a copy of the work and sold it to the downloader? The downloader was not the producer of the copy.
In all fairness to the GP post, the reality is we're already paying for a service plan and multi-mega pixel camera phones are right around the corner... plus I ALWAYS have my cell phone on me, so this functionality already exists but it is "no additional cost" not "free".
Actually, if you RTFA PDF is allowed in the proposal.
The real issue is MS Office doesn't write in an open format. This rule isn't banning MS Office, just any product that doesn't write in an open format. Microsoft could compete for the desktops of Mass Gov employees if they did. I'm guessing they would still lose that competition.
Won't this issue have a way of working itself out? Here is an analogy for you. XFree86 vs. X.org. The larger community didn't like what the original organization was doing with the project. So they forked, developed something superior, and rendered XFree86 obsolete. Why can't the international community do that with root servers? Sure it would cause havoc for a bit, but that's what makes the internet a interesting moving target.
Just wait until Apple decides to change a4p rules and these same customers try and activate a "new machine."
To give another example, if a store was burning CDs and selling them without the copyright holders' permission, you're arguement is the copyright holder is able to go after the customers along with the store.
I don't think this has ever held up in court, but prove me wrong.
Interesting... I was just making a joke without background knowledge on Venezuela. I just found in the GP post if you replaced "Venezuela" with "U.S" the same things could be said.
Welcome to George W. Bush's new economy.
I'm getting sick of this same old nit on the linux community. Someone else is going to respond with "But I set it up for my grandmother, blah, blah, blah..."
How much "time/patience" do MS Windows gurus have for the clueless computer users. I'd say that the linux community actually has some very helpful people.
So to speak...
According to the new features page it supports centrino and mono. NTFS (read only) was supported in 9.1. I'm not sure about the large display size. Did you have issues with that display setting in other versions/flavors?
Does anyone know the differences between the boxed retail version and th e ftp install version?
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin
Remember, fear of hostile forces is nothing new. If we "win" this "War on Terror" at the sacrifice our liberty, what have we preserved?
Wouldn't censored news actually be worse then no news? I feel a likening to 1984 but can't place it. Control of the information citizens recieve is very powerful. The Chinese people would know Google.com is blocked from the firewall if they got a 404. They might not realize that they are being censored if they get back modified search results.
I am so glad you picked Fat Tire. It's too bad they don't sell it here in Boston. Skiing in Colorado, that's all we drink.
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I'm not quite sure what makes this a Troll. I was simply commenting on the overly simplistic wording that Valenti uses to basically act like fair use does not exist... Does the public believe him?
Well at least 1/2 the moderators (at this time) found it insightful instead of trolling...
Just more Valenti FUD. If you want to limit "piracy" why not write better tools instead of making it a crime to alter your own hardware. I also didn't realize that hacking was illegal... Is the American public really dumb enough to believe the only purpose of DVD copies is to profit?
OpenGroupWare.org is a great open source project tackling this effort.
This is great. A couple developers here at work are trying to get Linux for their workstations. Hooking into Exchange was always a set back. IT did not want to pay for the connector, since it already paid for Outlook.
This is just one less hurdle to overcome. I aplaud Novel's decision.
There is a downside to a new release every year... less and less ROI for current users. I guess we'll have to wait and see the new feature set.
I am glad that isn't quite a jurisdiction yet.
This is not exactly true either. Detroit was smart enough to get the government to pay for all the roads... The train companies had to maintain their own infrastructure. They didn't stand a chance. The same could happen to telecos if government gets involved.