OK buddy... I'm probably not the best person to comment on this (I use GNOME, but mostly use gnome-terminals with vi inside them (don't tell me to use WM or that screen thing, I like the GNOME system setup utilities and stuff)), but how is not having lots of clicky things to change your config anything like Windows?
I mean, it's like saying, ``When using mount(8) I constantly run into walls when I try to do something in a way mount doesn't want me to do it because someone decided doing it his way was "better".'' I mean, if you decide you'd rather choose the mount point first then the device to be mounted (mount/mnt/ipod/dev/sda3) instead of the normal way, how can you change that?
You know, there's a good reason that we distribute source code...
That's kind of what I meant by isolation. Yeah we got armed forces (although our airforce is particularly lame) and they aren't all that flash but we don't really need them precisely for the reasons you said. We fought in WWI and WWII and Korea and Vietnam and all of those things as well as anybody else; we've even got a few army engineers in Iraq I believe. But one thing we have going for us is isolation; when thinking of evil western infidels to destroy, first we think of Microsoft and then we think of U.S.
Somebody mentioned earlier how the London bombings came from U.K. citizens. Here in NZ at least, society is extremely tolerant of other cultures and relgions. Recently in the newspaper here there was an article on a Scottish school textbook about how NZ has got the best race relations in the world. I don't know if this is true or not but when I was a child growing up here, I was surrounded by a veritable UN of Chinese and Indians and Iranians and Afghans... when I moved to Australia, I was actually quite shocked to see how people see `others'. Here people don't feel the need to be angry about how society treats them because they're Muslim or whatever... you should've seen the NZ community response to the Mohammed cartoons. So yeah... here people do feel secure; perhaps that is complacency. I don't know.
Excellent. After living in Australia for 6 years I've moved back to NZ. Whilst we do occasionally do ridiculous things wrt environmental issues, our general method of governance is much much `pre-9-11' (as people say ^_^). Maybe that's because we're an outdated backwater; but whatever the reason, at least we avoid lunacy like this. In case anybody doesn't know by now, we have also effectively banned any US ship from entering out waters (although how we do that is not something I agree with; we are `nuclear free' which, although prevents any US ship from visiting, also means we are nuclear free).
NZ is sort of like Amiga OS (or perhaps I should say *BSD? ^_~)... secure and free mostly by obfuscation and isolation =^_^=.
Are you kidding? 20$ for a book? Bollocks. Every single one of my books, from music to computer science to psychology was at least 120$NZ... that's about 80$USA I think. That's a huge amount of money. That's all I earn in a week as a waiter. I just decided, no, fuck it, I can't afford that (and I've never been the type to bother with much study anyhow, I got through highschool using google the night before the exam and have got through uni so far doing the same thing) so I just downloaded the books over aMule (at least the ones I could, which was most of them). There's benifits too to having pdf's of your textbooks as you don't have to lug the bastards around with you everywhere, just keep them on your laptop, and you get nice features like searching or zooming.
Left + Right mouse button emulates middle button. I even use it on my shite laptop excuse for a mouse touchpad thing. People don't know about it? How is that the fault of the developers? I don't know about you but I think that there has to be more FAQs and tutorials and what-have-you for using GNOME or KDE than anything there is for Windows. Maybe that's just because Windows doesn't need help to use because it's simpler but I don't know... there's no excuse for ignorance if you have an internet connection.
I have roughly 2500 songs on my 30gb iPod Video. I would have more but I've hit the 30gb limit. Now, when I had less than 30gb of music it was great; I just dumped the entire contents of my music collection on my iPod and left it as that. Now, I have to fiddle around and delete music then replace it with new music and such... if I'm on my 1 1/2 hour commute to university and I suddenly think `wow I want to hear that John Coltrane album, I haven't heard that in ages!' and I don't have it it's a bit disappointing. As for finding specific songs on an iPod, have you ever used one? The UI is fantastic... I can find any song in seconds... that's one of the reasons why I got an iPod as opposed to something else as the UI is just so good for large music collections.
One final thing; wasn't one of the major reasons we all got digital music players because of the convenience? How you didn't have to swap CDs out of your player to hear a different album, and try and search which particular CD has the song you want? Huge amounts of storage increases convenience, and is one of the main reasons people use digital music players or computers to play music as opposed to a stereo with a CD player.
Hang on, hang on... cut & paste? I know ctrl-v doesn't always work, but I haven't found one app in which good old middle mouse button doesn't work. Maybe I've just been lucky and not tried to use it when it doesn't work, but hell middle-mouse even works from firefox to vi. And at least for me, I prefer middle-mouse button anyway... ctrl-v also requires ctrl-c in addition to selecting the text. And as far as it being preferable due to it being a keyboard shortcut, well cut & paste is largely a GUI thing anyway (vi has it's own built-in cut & paste thing of course) so you're likely to be using the mouse and you got to use it to select text anyway.
Please correct me if middle-mouse is not universal.
They've already got Beagle. I've got it in my 5.10 release. Just install the Deskbar (`sudo apt-get install deskbar-applet') and add it to your Gnome panel and you can search Beagle (which is installed automatically with Deskbar) from there. It's very useful; however, because the 5.10 kernel is a bit old (2.6.12), it doesn't support inotify, so Beagle has to do the indexing of everything instead of just updating the things which have changed as soon as the changes occur, so the index isn't always fresh and Beagle uses more resources than it could if 5.10 had a newer kernel (which 6.06 does).
On the Ubuntu naming page, they said that after Breezy Badger they would try to make them alphabetical. They also mentioned they might skip a few and eventually (will it ever get that far? 13 years? I guess it sounds feasible) they will have to wrap back around. But yeah, they're trying to keep them sort of alphabetical.
GPL!!! Oh I loved GPL... best game ever! I was a GPL fanboi before I had even heard the term. This is the kind of game we need more of; a realistic simulation but something still playable as a game. Something in a similar vein would be the Forgotten Hope mod for Battlefield 1942 (and soon BF2).
But yeah. GPL. Man I'd forgotten about that... I wasted years of highschool playing that game, but it was so good I don't care.
Btw: you can't pause if you're in `Realistic' damage mode ^_^...
It doesn't have to scale anything. When you display content on a 15" monitor, does your graphics card have to scale it down as opposed to a 19" monitor? No. It's still the same resolution; the only difference is that 1024x768 is being squashed up into 15" instead of 19". So yes, if you plug in three different monitors, the content ought to display exactly the same, just smaller on the smaller monitors.
Operation Flashpoint let you move the gun independently from your viewpoint - to a degree. Once it reached the edge of your viewpoint, your body would rotate... so it sort of became like you were dragging your body around with the gun.
I didn't say that at all. There are plenty of amazing guitarists whose musicality takes my breath away; Jim Hall and Kenny Burrell are two. However, my point was, the amount of committment needed to become proficient in classical instruments does a good job of weeding out all the guys who just want to stand on stage and play parallel 5th powerchords so they can feel tough; rather than the type of people who have love music and have talent enough that they persevere with an instrument. It's just a filter that cuts out all the weeds.
Same with my DSL-G604T. I didn't buy it thought - haven't been all that keen on D-Link since I had a USB DSL modem that they refused to provide drivers for for anything other than Windows XP. I just got supplied this for free by my ISP and it does the job I ask it well enough. As a student I can't justify 250$ for moral reasons on a new wireless DSL router.
Yes it does work, I have it on mine. The low screen refresh problem and sound issues they were having have been fixed.
However, Podzilla 2 (think the desktop environment) is not letting me launch a terminal, or other applications, so I can't run a terminal or Doom or anything which kind of sucks. For the time being I'm 99% of the time booting into normal Apple OS.
Now, normally as a self-respecting computer geek, I would advocate putting a computer into any situation you could possibly jam it into. However, in this case, avoid it. You are playing a violin; this is a classical, traditional instrument, best learned from experienced, qualified and capable tutors. You are not playing with some kind of synthesiser, or an electric guitar. Introducing computers into the equation is only going to complicate things and distract you from the long hard work of becoming technically proficient on your instrument. You should develop tuning for yourself, not rely on a computer to tell you whether you are sharp or flat. Ear training is of massive importance on a real instrument like a violin; and looking on a computer screen to tell you the answer instead of learning to work out yourself how many cents you are off-pitch is not going to help you. Buy a pitch pipe; or if you have a piano, use that to play a pitch, then match it exactly on your own instrument. Take lessons if you can afford them. Nobody is more technically messed up and deficient than the self-taught string player. Hell even Charlie Parker and Miles got lessons when they had the money.
Software and music (by music I mean classical/jazz/traditional music; that which has history and infrastructure in the form of universities etc) do not mix IMHO. I am a BMus Composition major (along with my compsci major; so don't accuse me of not liking computers ^_~) and a lot of first year students come along and want to use Finale or Sibelius to compose. Finale/Sibelius are NOT composition tools; they are (very poor, btw: use Lilypond, it's open source and better output than anything else I've seen) music notation tools, so you don't have to give the performers your own messy inaccurate handwritten notation. The first thing first years get told is that to compose, use a pen and paper. Don't rely on MIDI playback to tell you what you just wrote; it won't tell you shit. If you want to be a composition major you should be good enough to tell what something written on a piece of paper sounds like for yourself, without hearing it. Much of the same goes for learning an instrument. Use of a computer will only distract you from the task at hand. The only use that I would recommend of computers is using for (as I mentioned before) notation. But this has little to do with music, and much more to do with publishing.
In short, put down your laptop and look up a professional strings tutor, one with a BMus in performance if you can.
And it is precisely what you said which makes guitarists to be considered so poorly by classical/jazz musicians. Violin, like most other instruments common in conventional musical circles, are a lot more difficult to simply pick up and teach yourself. Whilst a guitar has frets (so it's impossible to be out of tune) and such things as tabs (not proper musical notation at all - no suggestion of rhythm (most often), and they don't tell you what note to play but (get this!) where to put your fingers! ^_^), so it's relatively easy even if you have no talent/committment to produce something which sounds vaguely musical, a violin, or violoncello, or double bass, or trumpet/french horn whatever requires years of committment and effort before you can make something which sounds nice enough to stop you from cringeing if you heard yourself.
Now I'm not saying this as an elitist (as in, guitarists aren't worthy musicians), but this length of time and effort required for classical instruments serves a useful purpose: it weeds out those with no talent or willingness to put in effort. When just anybody can pick up a guitar and make something reasonably listenable, it means there is a whole lot of really shit, musically uninteresting crap produced. Whereas in the classical/jazz world, the mere fact that you have to commit to maybe 10 years of practice before you can play in public and not be laughed at means that you, on average, get a far better quality of music.
Note that occasionally (Scott LaFaro, jazz double bass) you get a freak who can pick up an instrument in no time at all and play something wonderful; however, that's because they have massive talent in the first place and therefore often make good music too.
Hi. I have an iPod video and run Ubuntu primarily; but until recently I was using a Windows PC to update my iPod/add songs. I use gtkpod now for the song synching, but is there any way to update my iPod from my linux laptop? Does wine work? Or can I somehow extract the firmware image from the updater and load it using dd or something? Thank-you (and sorry for being a little OT).
Huh? You are completely not the target market. This is for people who want to have the GMail experience that many of us already enjoy, but want to have their own exisiting domain names used for their company or something. This could be expected to replace perhaps my university's email system, which is fairly clunky standard webmail system... 10mb storage, no search, no folders, limited contact system, etc etc. Instead, they could keep their username@auckland.ac.nz and use the far superior GMail interface instead; not only would the user interface be much much better, but they wouldn't have to host 10mb for every account, as they now have 3gb hosted by somebody else for every user. Branding? Who needs branding? Probably not my unversity for example; all they need is that small logo to make sure the user knows they're using their university email instead of their own account. Sure, GMail for your domain doesn't fit your specifications, but Microsoft Word probably doesn't fit most Photoshopper's specs either (exaggeration I know).
Bollocks. You have no idea the amount of feedback musicians are receiving and compensating for. It just happens so quickly (and once you get used to it, pretty much automatically). When I play a note on my horn, I'm compensating for intonation, tone quality, articulation, dynamic strength, vibrato perhaps - and that's only playing a single note - not even bringing things like rhythm into it. And don't tell me you just figure these things out (``tangents'' you call them) once and then just play the same way. You play a middle G once, then you play it after playing for a minute, it's going to be a different pitch because your horn's warmed up, it's going to sound different because your embouchure has adapted - and you'll have to compensate for it. Feedback in any technical task is by no means pipelined; any stage I Psych course will tell you that.
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OK buddy... I'm probably not the best person to comment on this (I use GNOME, but mostly use gnome-terminals with vi inside them (don't tell me to use WM or that screen thing, I like the GNOME system setup utilities and stuff)), but how is not having lots of clicky things to change your config anything like Windows?
/mnt/ipod /dev/sda3) instead of the normal way, how can you change that?
I mean, it's like saying, ``When using mount(8) I constantly run into walls when I try to do something in a way mount doesn't want me to do it because someone decided doing it his way was "better".'' I mean, if you decide you'd rather choose the mount point first then the device to be mounted (mount
You know, there's a good reason that we distribute source code...
-Tommi =^_^=
UPnP was invented poorly...
That's kind of what I meant by isolation. Yeah we got armed forces (although our airforce is particularly lame) and they aren't all that flash but we don't really need them precisely for the reasons you said. We fought in WWI and WWII and Korea and Vietnam and all of those things as well as anybody else; we've even got a few army engineers in Iraq I believe. But one thing we have going for us is isolation; when thinking of evil western infidels to destroy, first we think of Microsoft and then we think of U.S.
Somebody mentioned earlier how the London bombings came from U.K. citizens. Here in NZ at least, society is extremely tolerant of other cultures and relgions. Recently in the newspaper here there was an article on a Scottish school textbook about how NZ has got the best race relations in the world. I don't know if this is true or not but when I was a child growing up here, I was surrounded by a veritable UN of Chinese and Indians and Iranians and Afghans... when I moved to Australia, I was actually quite shocked to see how people see `others'. Here people don't feel the need to be angry about how society treats them because they're Muslim or whatever... you should've seen the NZ community response to the Mohammed cartoons. So yeah... here people do feel secure; perhaps that is complacency. I don't know.
Excellent. After living in Australia for 6 years I've moved back to NZ. Whilst we do occasionally do ridiculous things wrt environmental issues, our general method of governance is much much `pre-9-11' (as people say ^_^). Maybe that's because we're an outdated backwater; but whatever the reason, at least we avoid lunacy like this. In case anybody doesn't know by now, we have also effectively banned any US ship from entering out waters (although how we do that is not something I agree with; we are `nuclear free' which, although prevents any US ship from visiting, also means we are nuclear free).
NZ is sort of like Amiga OS (or perhaps I should say *BSD? ^_~)... secure and free mostly by obfuscation and isolation =^_^=.
Are you kidding? 20$ for a book? Bollocks. Every single one of my books, from music to computer science to psychology was at least 120$NZ... that's about 80$USA I think. That's a huge amount of money. That's all I earn in a week as a waiter. I just decided, no, fuck it, I can't afford that (and I've never been the type to bother with much study anyhow, I got through highschool using google the night before the exam and have got through uni so far doing the same thing) so I just downloaded the books over aMule (at least the ones I could, which was most of them). There's benifits too to having pdf's of your textbooks as you don't have to lug the bastards around with you everywhere, just keep them on your laptop, and you get nice features like searching or zooming.
Left + Right mouse button emulates middle button. I even use it on my shite laptop excuse for a mouse touchpad thing. People don't know about it? How is that the fault of the developers? I don't know about you but I think that there has to be more FAQs and tutorials and what-have-you for using GNOME or KDE than anything there is for Windows. Maybe that's just because Windows doesn't need help to use because it's simpler but I don't know... there's no excuse for ignorance if you have an internet connection.
I have roughly 2500 songs on my 30gb iPod Video. I would have more but I've hit the 30gb limit. Now, when I had less than 30gb of music it was great; I just dumped the entire contents of my music collection on my iPod and left it as that. Now, I have to fiddle around and delete music then replace it with new music and such... if I'm on my 1 1/2 hour commute to university and I suddenly think `wow I want to hear that John Coltrane album, I haven't heard that in ages!' and I don't have it it's a bit disappointing. As for finding specific songs on an iPod, have you ever used one? The UI is fantastic... I can find any song in seconds... that's one of the reasons why I got an iPod as opposed to something else as the UI is just so good for large music collections.
One final thing; wasn't one of the major reasons we all got digital music players because of the convenience? How you didn't have to swap CDs out of your player to hear a different album, and try and search which particular CD has the song you want? Huge amounts of storage increases convenience, and is one of the main reasons people use digital music players or computers to play music as opposed to a stereo with a CD player.
Hang on, hang on... cut & paste? I know ctrl-v doesn't always work, but I haven't found one app in which good old middle mouse button doesn't work. Maybe I've just been lucky and not tried to use it when it doesn't work, but hell middle-mouse even works from firefox to vi. And at least for me, I prefer middle-mouse button anyway... ctrl-v also requires ctrl-c in addition to selecting the text. And as far as it being preferable due to it being a keyboard shortcut, well cut & paste is largely a GUI thing anyway (vi has it's own built-in cut & paste thing of course) so you're likely to be using the mouse and you got to use it to select text anyway.
Please correct me if middle-mouse is not universal.
They've already got Beagle. I've got it in my 5.10 release. Just install the Deskbar (`sudo apt-get install deskbar-applet') and add it to your Gnome panel and you can search Beagle (which is installed automatically with Deskbar) from there. It's very useful; however, because the 5.10 kernel is a bit old (2.6.12), it doesn't support inotify, so Beagle has to do the indexing of everything instead of just updating the things which have changed as soon as the changes occur, so the index isn't always fresh and Beagle uses more resources than it could if 5.10 had a newer kernel (which 6.06 does).
On the Ubuntu naming page, they said that after Breezy Badger they would try to make them alphabetical. They also mentioned they might skip a few and eventually (will it ever get that far? 13 years? I guess it sounds feasible) they will have to wrap back around. But yeah, they're trying to keep them sort of alphabetical.
GPL!!! Oh I loved GPL... best game ever! I was a GPL fanboi before I had even heard the term. This is the kind of game we need more of; a realistic simulation but something still playable as a game. Something in a similar vein would be the Forgotten Hope mod for Battlefield 1942 (and soon BF2).
But yeah. GPL. Man I'd forgotten about that... I wasted years of highschool playing that game, but it was so good I don't care.
Btw: you can't pause if you're in `Realistic' damage mode ^_^...
It doesn't have to scale anything. When you display content on a 15" monitor, does your graphics card have to scale it down as opposed to a 19" monitor? No. It's still the same resolution; the only difference is that 1024x768 is being squashed up into 15" instead of 19". So yes, if you plug in three different monitors, the content ought to display exactly the same, just smaller on the smaller monitors.
Operation Flashpoint let you move the gun independently from your viewpoint - to a degree. Once it reached the edge of your viewpoint, your body would rotate... so it sort of became like you were dragging your body around with the gun.
Excellent game though.
I didn't say that at all. There are plenty of amazing guitarists whose musicality takes my breath away; Jim Hall and Kenny Burrell are two. However, my point was, the amount of committment needed to become proficient in classical instruments does a good job of weeding out all the guys who just want to stand on stage and play parallel 5th powerchords so they can feel tough; rather than the type of people who have love music and have talent enough that they persevere with an instrument. It's just a filter that cuts out all the weeds.
WTF? Why not just have an external chip pumping syncs in? Not everything has to be done from the CPU you know...
Same with my DSL-G604T. I didn't buy it thought - haven't been all that keen on D-Link since I had a USB DSL modem that they refused to provide drivers for for anything other than Windows XP. I just got supplied this for free by my ISP and it does the job I ask it well enough. As a student I can't justify 250$ for moral reasons on a new wireless DSL router.
Yes it does work, I have it on mine. The low screen refresh problem and sound issues they were having have been fixed.
However, Podzilla 2 (think the desktop environment) is not letting me launch a terminal, or other applications, so I can't run a terminal or Doom or anything which kind of sucks. For the time being I'm 99% of the time booting into normal Apple OS.
Whilst I won't agree with much of your reply, I'll give you a point for dear Mr Marsalis ^_~.
Although `Joe Cool's Blues' was awesome from my personal Charlie Brown nostalgia hehehe...
Now, normally as a self-respecting computer geek, I would advocate putting a computer into any situation you could possibly jam it into. However, in this case, avoid it. You are playing a violin; this is a classical, traditional instrument, best learned from experienced, qualified and capable tutors. You are not playing with some kind of synthesiser, or an electric guitar. Introducing computers into the equation is only going to complicate things and distract you from the long hard work of becoming technically proficient on your instrument. You should develop tuning for yourself, not rely on a computer to tell you whether you are sharp or flat. Ear training is of massive importance on a real instrument like a violin; and looking on a computer screen to tell you the answer instead of learning to work out yourself how many cents you are off-pitch is not going to help you. Buy a pitch pipe; or if you have a piano, use that to play a pitch, then match it exactly on your own instrument. Take lessons if you can afford them. Nobody is more technically messed up and deficient than the self-taught string player. Hell even Charlie Parker and Miles got lessons when they had the money.
Software and music (by music I mean classical/jazz/traditional music; that which has history and infrastructure in the form of universities etc) do not mix IMHO. I am a BMus Composition major (along with my compsci major; so don't accuse me of not liking computers ^_~) and a lot of first year students come along and want to use Finale or Sibelius to compose. Finale/Sibelius are NOT composition tools; they are (very poor, btw: use Lilypond, it's open source and better output than anything else I've seen) music notation tools, so you don't have to give the performers your own messy inaccurate handwritten notation. The first thing first years get told is that to compose, use a pen and paper. Don't rely on MIDI playback to tell you what you just wrote; it won't tell you shit. If you want to be a composition major you should be good enough to tell what something written on a piece of paper sounds like for yourself, without hearing it. Much of the same goes for learning an instrument. Use of a computer will only distract you from the task at hand. The only use that I would recommend of computers is using for (as I mentioned before) notation. But this has little to do with music, and much more to do with publishing.
In short, put down your laptop and look up a professional strings tutor, one with a BMus in performance if you can.
And it is precisely what you said which makes guitarists to be considered so poorly by classical/jazz musicians. Violin, like most other instruments common in conventional musical circles, are a lot more difficult to simply pick up and teach yourself. Whilst a guitar has frets (so it's impossible to be out of tune) and such things as tabs (not proper musical notation at all - no suggestion of rhythm (most often), and they don't tell you what note to play but (get this!) where to put your fingers! ^_^), so it's relatively easy even if you have no talent/committment to produce something which sounds vaguely musical, a violin, or violoncello, or double bass, or trumpet/french horn whatever requires years of committment and effort before you can make something which sounds nice enough to stop you from cringeing if you heard yourself.
Now I'm not saying this as an elitist (as in, guitarists aren't worthy musicians), but this length of time and effort required for classical instruments serves a useful purpose: it weeds out those with no talent or willingness to put in effort. When just anybody can pick up a guitar and make something reasonably listenable, it means there is a whole lot of really shit, musically uninteresting crap produced. Whereas in the classical/jazz world, the mere fact that you have to commit to maybe 10 years of practice before you can play in public and not be laughed at means that you, on average, get a far better quality of music.
Note that occasionally (Scott LaFaro, jazz double bass) you get a freak who can pick up an instrument in no time at all and play something wonderful; however, that's because they have massive talent in the first place and therefore often make good music too.
There's my rant for the day.
Why is parent modded a troll? It's a perfectly fine comment. I may agree with what he said, but even if I didn't, I wouldn't mod this a troll. WTF?
Shit. If you want to hear high-quality music, try just avoiding Kenny G for a start ^_^
Hi. I have an iPod video and run Ubuntu primarily; but until recently I was using a Windows PC to update my iPod/add songs. I use gtkpod now for the song synching, but is there any way to update my iPod from my linux laptop? Does wine work? Or can I somehow extract the firmware image from the updater and load it using dd or something? Thank-you (and sorry for being a little OT).
Huh? You are completely not the target market. This is for people who want to have the GMail experience that many of us already enjoy, but want to have their own exisiting domain names used for their company or something. This could be expected to replace perhaps my university's email system, which is fairly clunky standard webmail system... 10mb storage, no search, no folders, limited contact system, etc etc. Instead, they could keep their username@auckland.ac.nz and use the far superior GMail interface instead; not only would the user interface be much much better, but they wouldn't have to host 10mb for every account, as they now have 3gb hosted by somebody else for every user. Branding? Who needs branding? Probably not my unversity for example; all they need is that small logo to make sure the user knows they're using their university email instead of their own account. Sure, GMail for your domain doesn't fit your specifications, but Microsoft Word probably doesn't fit most Photoshopper's specs either (exaggeration I know).
Bollocks. You have no idea the amount of feedback musicians are receiving and compensating for. It just happens so quickly (and once you get used to it, pretty much automatically). When I play a note on my horn, I'm compensating for intonation, tone quality, articulation, dynamic strength, vibrato perhaps - and that's only playing a single note - not even bringing things like rhythm into it. And don't tell me you just figure these things out (``tangents'' you call them) once and then just play the same way. You play a middle G once, then you play it after playing for a minute, it's going to be a different pitch because your horn's warmed up, it's going to sound different because your embouchure has adapted - and you'll have to compensate for it. Feedback in any technical task is by no means pipelined; any stage I Psych course will tell you that.