Actually, I liked the original Halo more. Dual Wielding didn't come in handy most of the time, because you couldn't throw sticky grenades, the most useful weapon in the game (well, at least in multiplayer;). Also, the levels and storyline didn't pack as much of a punch. Remember the night level where you first met the fludd? Remember how you were like "What the hell are those little freaks?!?!" Halo 2 didn't have that moody feel. All it's levels were more focused on tactical combat, and the storyline was just rambling and kind of confusing. The sword is probably the greatest thing about Halo 2, but I'm not sure it quite makes up for nerfing the pistol. Of course, I like Diablo more than Diablo 2, so don't listen to me.;)
I agree. I love a good, funny, smart adventure game, and it is interesting to revisit the classics, but at the same time there is no excuse for bad game design. Not that I'm saying it was a bad game, but it could have been done better.
How about the prebuilt engines available for use? How about the increasing number of programmers looking for jobs? How about the rising number of gamers? How about the outrageous prices charged by MMOs? Everyone needs fair compensation, but there comes a point where getting the game developed and to you costs $20 a unit, and the game costs $60. Where does the extra revenue go? I have a sneaking suspicion I know....;)
Everyone here knows that, I think. I think what is being disputed is whether the actual price of making the games is going up. If they sell the games at current prices, are they going to go out of business?
Didn't Steam have a friggin' miserable HL2 launch? I still like the boxed copy. I can install it on any PC, I can resell the sucka, I can buy them cheap, and I get cool stuff like the manual and the box to, well, look at on the way home.
My problem is when you have top quality RPGs and other games for fractions of the cost of new games (THPS2 used on PS1 is $1.50 at ebgames. You can get FFT for like, $11.00, so I don't see why people would pay $40 for FFTA. I recently purchased a DVD case copy of Max Payne with slightly scuffed up packaging for $5.00) why would I spend $60 on an inferrior new game? Why spend money on a new RPG which COULD be okay, or even good, when you can play Diablo 2, which some crazy people say is better than Diablo, Baldur's Gate, or the Best Game Ever, IMHO, Fallout, for a small fraction of the cost? I don't see why anyone would buy DOOM 3 if they haven't played Quake 2, Half-Life, or any of the other truly great shooters out there. $20 is the most I will pay for any game. If it's higher than that, I will watch garage sales, bargain bins, and eBay. I pretty much shop directly out of the bargain bins (I'm a cheap bastard;)). If I see a game cheap, I buy it. If it's too expensive, forget it. If you want cheaper games, speak with your wallets. Don't buy the $60 games. Buy the $30 games. Buy lots of $30 games. The companies will think "If we sell this game at $30, we sell four times the copies than if we sold it at $60." That's the ONLY way you can lower the prices.
Nonono. Different kind of nightmares. Your problems are with the players being stupid and fighting. The MMO problems are about getting organized and balanced and in the same spot.
I just played it, and I must say, it was pretty stinking bad. Like, you have to find a candle and matches really quickly, or it gets dark, and you can't do anything (as far as I can tell), and if you go in one room, you trip on a rug and light the house on fire... Every time. It is interesting if you are into old adventure games, but otherwise it is really pretty bad. Also, the graphics are hilarious. There's a wall going through a refrigerator in the kitchen.
Well, you'd have to be able to change the names of items, or you would get stupid 1337 names. But I doubt anyone here can deny that "Meagermanx hits FirienFirien (Not to pick on oyu:P) with Twinkle(Drizzt Do'Urden's scimitar) for 3 Damage" would be cool.
Of course, you would still get dumb names, but maybe you could report stupid names to a mod or something
WHAT!?!? Naming items is one of the things I want to see in more games! It would give equipment more uniqueness and importance. Who wouldn't want an axe named Bleeder like in the R.A. Salvatore novel Sojourn?
Well, it would have to be more complex than that. For example, Max Payne could fit in the FPS code, but would have to be modified (A LOT) for the bullet time. And, seriously, who is going to want to pay $2.00 to try out a new class? It would be a great way to start playing a game, but I don't see it catching on...
Actually that didn't happen in that movie. The old secretary lady just stated that a burglar fell through her skylight while trying to break in, fell on a knife, and the lawyer got her 4 million dollars. And then Jim Carrey says he would of got him 7.
Actually, right now there are probably Cruise lawyers going "Hey, wait a second! This nerd web page is verbally assaulting us! Quick, someone get these usernames down! Fire up the lawyers!!"
strangely, all the problems you just described are absent from tabletop board games and rampant in MMORPGs, and yet you treat D&D as if it is crap. Just sayin'.
How 'bout someone just posts their websites and the email addresses of all their CEOs or whatever, so they can feel the pain of a good Slashdotting, and the agony of four thousand "f111r57 posss7!!! LoooLL~~~!1!" That would teach 'em...
My library has all the crappy games. We have racing games, flight sims, business sims, and The Sims, but nothing violent, and everything's for the PC. They set up a PS2 during Spring Break, though, with NFS and some NBA game, and have a gaming computer set up in the YA room. One of the other libraries (which is closer to me) used to have people playing Starcraft on one of its PCs all the time. Literaly. A bunch of the bad, angry dropout kids started to hang around, just to play Starcraft. And, of course, we get the usual amount of Runescapers.
Man, I am SO tired of being stereotyped. Just because I, and all of my "friends," are overwieght (Or sickly underweight), socially retarded, covered in acne, snort when we laugh, and incorporate HTML tags into our common speech, doesnt mean ALL gamers do! Man, I'm calling the ACLU...
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Actually, I liked the original Halo more. Dual Wielding didn't come in handy most of the time, because you couldn't throw sticky grenades, the most useful weapon in the game (well, at least in multiplayer ;). ;)
Also, the levels and storyline didn't pack as much of a punch. Remember the night level where you first met the fludd? Remember how you were like "What the hell are those little freaks?!?!" Halo 2 didn't have that moody feel. All it's levels were more focused on tactical combat, and the storyline was just rambling and kind of confusing.
The sword is probably the greatest thing about Halo 2, but I'm not sure it quite makes up for nerfing the pistol.
Of course, I like Diablo more than Diablo 2, so don't listen to me.
I agree. I love a good, funny, smart adventure game, and it is interesting to revisit the classics, but at the same time there is no excuse for bad game design. Not that I'm saying it was a bad game, but it could have been done better.
I agree. Combating piracy with increased prices is like combating muggers with money: It only increases the number of offenders.
How about the prebuilt engines available for use? How about the increasing number of programmers looking for jobs? How about the rising number of gamers? How about the outrageous prices charged by MMOs? Everyone needs fair compensation, but there comes a point where getting the game developed and to you costs $20 a unit, and the game costs $60. Where does the extra revenue go? I have a sneaking suspicion I know.... ;)
Everyone here knows that, I think. I think what is being disputed is whether the actual price of making the games is going up. If they sell the games at current prices, are they going to go out of business?
Didn't Steam have a friggin' miserable HL2 launch? I still like the boxed copy. I can install it on any PC, I can resell the sucka, I can buy them cheap, and I get cool stuff like the manual and the box to, well, look at on the way home.
My problem is when you have top quality RPGs and other games for fractions of the cost of new games (THPS2 used on PS1 is $1.50 at ebgames. You can get FFT for like, $11.00, so I don't see why people would pay $40 for FFTA. I recently purchased a DVD case copy of Max Payne with slightly scuffed up packaging for $5.00) why would I spend $60 on an inferrior new game? Why spend money on a new RPG which COULD be okay, or even good, when you can play Diablo 2, which some crazy people say is better than Diablo, Baldur's Gate, or the Best Game Ever, IMHO, Fallout, for a small fraction of the cost? I don't see why anyone would buy DOOM 3 if they haven't played Quake 2, Half-Life, or any of the other truly great shooters out there. $20 is the most I will pay for any game. If it's higher than that, I will watch garage sales, bargain bins, and eBay. I pretty much shop directly out of the bargain bins (I'm a cheap bastard ;)). If I see a game cheap, I buy it. If it's too expensive, forget it. If you want cheaper games, speak with your wallets. Don't buy the $60 games. Buy the $30 games. Buy lots of $30 games. The companies will think "If we sell this game at $30, we sell four times the copies than if we sold it at $60." That's the ONLY way you can lower the prices.
Nonono. Different kind of nightmares. Your problems are with the players being stupid and fighting. The MMO problems are about getting organized and balanced and in the same spot.
I just played it, and I must say, it was pretty stinking bad. Like, you have to find a candle and matches really quickly, or it gets dark, and you can't do anything (as far as I can tell), and if you go in one room, you trip on a rug and light the house on fire... Every time. It is interesting if you are into old adventure games, but otherwise it is really pretty bad. Also, the graphics are hilarious. There's a wall going through a refrigerator in the kitchen.
They... Did remake Hugo 1. Dunno 'bout 2-3 tho'...
Well, you'd have to be able to change the names of items, or you would get stupid 1337 names. But I doubt anyone here can deny that "Meagermanx hits FirienFirien (Not to pick on oyu :P) with Twinkle(Drizzt Do'Urden's scimitar) for 3 Damage" would be cool.
Of course, you would still get dumb names, but maybe you could report stupid names to a mod or something
Anyone reminded of that Far Side cartoon where a black hole suddenly appears in some guys living rooms?
WHAT!?!? Naming items is one of the things I want to see in more games! It would give equipment more uniqueness and importance. Who wouldn't want an axe named Bleeder like in the R.A. Salvatore novel Sojourn?
Well, it would have to be more complex than that. For example, Max Payne could fit in the FPS code, but would have to be modified (A LOT) for the bullet time. And, seriously, who is going to want to pay $2.00 to try out a new class? It would be a great way to start playing a game, but I don't see it catching on...
Actually that didn't happen in that movie. The old secretary lady just stated that a burglar fell through her skylight while trying to break in, fell on a knife, and the lawyer got her 4 million dollars. And then Jim Carrey says he would of got him 7.
Actually, right now there are probably Cruise lawyers going "Hey, wait a second! This nerd web page is verbally assaulting us! Quick, someone get these usernames down! Fire up the lawyers!!"
strangely, all the problems you just described are absent from tabletop board games and rampant in MMORPGs, and yet you treat D&D as if it is crap.
Just sayin'.
How 'bout someone just posts their websites and the email addresses of all their CEOs or whatever, so they can feel the pain of a good Slashdotting, and the agony of four thousand "f111r57 posss7!!! LoooLL~~~!1!"
That would teach 'em...
You're joking, right?
My library has all the crappy games. We have racing games, flight sims, business sims, and The Sims, but nothing violent, and everything's for the PC. They set up a PS2 during Spring Break, though, with NFS and some NBA game, and have a gaming computer set up in the YA room. One of the other libraries (which is closer to me) used to have people playing Starcraft on one of its PCs all the time. Literaly. A bunch of the bad, angry dropout kids started to hang around, just to play Starcraft. And, of course, we get the usual amount of Runescapers.
Hah! You think you're confused now? wait till they finish their Starcraft 1.12bSP2 patch.
I noticed them on i-mockery.com and became puzzled.
But are these vegetarian friendly? As a vegetarian, this could be the greatest thing since... A pretty damn great thing!
Man, I am SO tired of being stereotyped. Just because I, and all of my "friends," are overwieght (Or sickly underweight), socially retarded, covered in acne, snort when we laugh, and incorporate HTML tags into our common speech, doesnt mean ALL gamers do! Man, I'm calling the ACLU...
You forgot the 66 "Call your opponent a fag" cards.