Grass is green, sky is blue, Pope is Catholic, etc...
When people create these things... isn't the intent to make them hard to detect/kill?
What this article has highlighted, though, is that a thorough study on how those rootkits got installed in the first place (especially with regard to the level of user interaction required) combined with some basic education provided to end-users within the OS could go a long way. It's the whole ounce of prevention worth a pound of cure thing. Obviously the cure is not yet up to snuff... and potentially never will be.
Quit being a cry baby and run 'apt-get upgrade' already. It would have taken you less time than to come in here complain.
... and regenerate all the keys, yes? It isn't quite as simple as you suggest...
"All OpenSSH and X.509 keys generated on such systems must be considered untrustworthy, regardless of the system on which they are used, even after the update has been applied."
This article poses a question I've always wondered about. Do most criminal investigations of the computer-related nature have experts that are well-versed in multiple operating systems? Seeing as to how this is government, I would guess the answer is "no," and that is partly why we have this... uhh... "benefit" from Microsoft to aid our investigators.
Makes me curious as to what would happen if, for some reason, my computer were seized and the police booted up to an Ubuntu welcome screen... heh...
In all seriousness, though... I'm struggling to see how this is truly beneficial. Aren't most pages already hopelessly clogged with mounds of JavaScript? Is it that difficult to expect a user to have a Java interpreter already installed when they visit the page such that having your Java "emulated" in JavsScript is the better solution?
Just seems like a solution needing a problem to me.
... let's note how they've grown in screen size, too! I mean, back in the day, it used to be good enough to have a monitor that could display 640x480. Now, if you're using a 14" CRT, you're totally out of luck when viewing the intarwebs!
Ahem... honestly, I agree that "narrowband users have been left behind," but so have those with smaller monitors, older operating systems, and the like. Sometimes upgrading the hardware/software is just a necessity at some point. If you can't, chances are there's a library nearby that has some newer hardware that might work.
Would it be better if we went back to having a high content/low content index page so the user could pick which one they wanted? Maybe... but I don't think it's necessary, and it usually involves a lot more work.
I've been running Hardy right up from Alpha 2 until the RC. It's a quality release. Only issue I've had so far is that the sound on my laptop (Vostro 1700, uses Intel HDA) is almost impossible to hear unless the sound is up all the way. I've read a few things to try and get it fixed, but that's not too high priority right now.
The installation is clean, it did a fantastic job auto-detecting my 3D hardware and setting up Compiz on both laptop and desktop (Intel X3100 and GeForce FX5500 respectively), and it's easy enough for grandma to use.
Speaking as a geek married with four kids, I say any time spent enjoying each other's company is good. You also make the assumption that they have the desire and means to get out and explore the world... I know we didn't early in our marriage.
Not saying that exploring the world is bad, but I think if they really enjoy gaming together, it's better than a lot of other alternatives.:)
Or get a Wii. Tons of simple flash games through the browser. Fun and simple.
Yeah, but I don't think there are many multiplayer games for the Wii via Flash. If there are, please point them out, as I'd like to try them for myself!
So where do you recommend that members of the general public buy a cartridge copier so that they can dump their authentic Super NES Game Paks into ROM files for the PC?
I don't have a suggestion for that... I play Tetris Attack by putting the cartridge in my SNES and turning it on, and I'll keep doing that until it hits Virtual Console so I can play it on my Wii.
I think the argument you are going to get here is that it is futile to argue/debate something which cannot be proven in a scientific context.
As an example... I believe that 2 + 2 = 4. That can be rather easily proven by taking two cookies, adding two more cookies, and seeing that the result is four cookies. Why should we have arguments/debate over whether or not 2 + 2 = 5? You might believe it to be true, but it can't be proven and, to my knowledge, no proof for it exists. Teaching a different belief here does nothing.
Now going back to your point, let's compare Evolution and Creationism. There exists some degree of scientific proof of the existence of Evolution. Maybe not entirely convincing evidence going back to origins of man, but at least in a smaller context, such as the past 50 years. Compare that to evidence of Creationism, or the basis that everything was created by God. The majority of that evidence is anecdotal; it's one's interpretation of the world around you. The evidence isn't largely based on the scientific method, and I can't clearly describe why I thought plant X or animal Y was a part of God's creation aside from "that makes sense to me." While that is perfectly acceptable for some, it isn't for others. In my opinion, schools, as a whole, are to be places where the former (scientific evidence) is to be taught.
(I'm a Christian for FWIW. I just think that everything needs to have its place. If you desire a school where debate against Evolution is welcome, there are plenty of private schools that fit that mold.)
Anyone have a link, or know off-hand, the major differences between this and the latest Ubuntu release? I realize there's the APT/RPM difference, but aside from that, what is notable?
I was of the understanding that plants (at least those that photosynthesize) only need water, carbon dioxide, and sunlight. Oxygen, I think, is a product of photosynthesis, not an input.
Not that there is an abundance of H2O and CO2 on the moon, though... at least... I'm not aware of there being one.
Without reading TFA... how do they know it was (just) 10,000 SSNs? Did they just approximate the number of entries already in the offenders list and just use that? Couldn't there potentially be more?
I currently own a Dell Vostro 1700. It has a 17" widescreen @ 1440x900, and it does not have the glossy screen. I purchased it a little over a month ago. Perhaps you could try one of those?
As a father of an autistic child, I can totally understand an emotional and illogical response to the suggestion of a Thimerosal/autism link. Believe me, at first it had me somewhat enraged as well. In light of some other drugs that have come under fire in past years for either under-delivering on promises or outright harming people that take them, it only makes sense that some people are going to look at a statement like that and say "Oh, look, something *else* the FDA missed!"
The problem is most people nowadays seem to either 1) lack the capacity to think for themselves (either mentally or as a result of time constraints, etc.) 2) lack the desire to think for themselves. After all, why bother doing that when someone else has already done it for me?
I also think that both sides are sitting too much in the area of absolutes. It seems that most scientists insist that *every* vaccine is safe for *every* child, and the inverse is true for those who think Thimerosal causes autism. Obviously, just the mere presence of Thimerosal doesn't cause autism, because if it did we'd all be autistic. But at the same time, I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that the large number of vaccines that are administered at once nowadays, along with other possible factors, are at the source.
Autism can be very difficult to work with as a parent, and I hope they find out the cause/cure soon. But flying off the handle, on either side, isn't going to get it done.
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Grass is green, sky is blue, Pope is Catholic, etc...
When people create these things... isn't the intent to make them hard to detect/kill?
What this article has highlighted, though, is that a thorough study on how those rootkits got installed in the first place (especially with regard to the level of user interaction required) combined with some basic education provided to end-users within the OS could go a long way. It's the whole ounce of prevention worth a pound of cure thing. Obviously the cure is not yet up to snuff... and potentially never will be.
... and regenerate all the keys, yes? It isn't quite as simple as you suggest...
"All OpenSSH and X.509 keys generated on such systems must be considered untrustworthy, regardless of the system on which they are used, even after the update has been applied."
... this had to be discovered four days *after* I finished setting up my new Ubuntu 8.04 server... *grumble*
You mean they don't all wear those funny towel hats on their heads? :)
This article poses a question I've always wondered about. Do most criminal investigations of the computer-related nature have experts that are well-versed in multiple operating systems? Seeing as to how this is government, I would guess the answer is "no," and that is partly why we have this... uhh... "benefit" from Microsoft to aid our investigators.
Makes me curious as to what would happen if, for some reason, my computer were seized and the police booted up to an Ubuntu welcome screen... heh...
I doubt I have ever seen the random /. quote ever be more appropriate:
"If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error."
Yeah, that about sums it up.
Does it run Linux? ;)
In all seriousness, though... I'm struggling to see how this is truly beneficial. Aren't most pages already hopelessly clogged with mounds of JavaScript? Is it that difficult to expect a user to have a Java interpreter already installed when they visit the page such that having your Java "emulated" in JavsScript is the better solution?
Just seems like a solution needing a problem to me.
... let's note how they've grown in screen size, too! I mean, back in the day, it used to be good enough to have a monitor that could display 640x480. Now, if you're using a 14" CRT, you're totally out of luck when viewing the intarwebs!
Ahem... honestly, I agree that "narrowband users have been left behind," but so have those with smaller monitors, older operating systems, and the like. Sometimes upgrading the hardware/software is just a necessity at some point. If you can't, chances are there's a library nearby that has some newer hardware that might work.
Would it be better if we went back to having a high content/low content index page so the user could pick which one they wanted? Maybe... but I don't think it's necessary, and it usually involves a lot more work.
I've been running Hardy right up from Alpha 2 until the RC. It's a quality release. Only issue I've had so far is that the sound on my laptop (Vostro 1700, uses Intel HDA) is almost impossible to hear unless the sound is up all the way. I've read a few things to try and get it fixed, but that's not too high priority right now.
The installation is clean, it did a fantastic job auto-detecting my 3D hardware and setting up Compiz on both laptop and desktop (Intel X3100 and GeForce FX5500 respectively), and it's easy enough for grandma to use.
Kudos to the Ubuntu team.
Speaking as a geek married with four kids, I say any time spent enjoying each other's company is good. You also make the assumption that they have the desire and means to get out and explore the world... I know we didn't early in our marriage.
Not saying that exploring the world is bad, but I think if they really enjoy gaming together, it's better than a lot of other alternatives. :)
Yeah, but I don't think there are many multiplayer games for the Wii via Flash. If there are, please point them out, as I'd like to try them for myself!
I don't have a suggestion for that... I play Tetris Attack by putting the cartridge in my SNES and turning it on, and I'll keep doing that until it hits Virtual Console so I can play it on my Wii.
Get some old-school console emulators and play some of the great classics.
I'm sure that what constitutes a "classic" will vary here on /., but I prefer some of the older Super NES games... Tetris Attack is awesome.
You didn't hear that from me, though...
I think the argument you are going to get here is that it is futile to argue/debate something which cannot be proven in a scientific context.
As an example... I believe that 2 + 2 = 4. That can be rather easily proven by taking two cookies, adding two more cookies, and seeing that the result is four cookies. Why should we have arguments/debate over whether or not 2 + 2 = 5? You might believe it to be true, but it can't be proven and, to my knowledge, no proof for it exists. Teaching a different belief here does nothing.
Now going back to your point, let's compare Evolution and Creationism. There exists some degree of scientific proof of the existence of Evolution. Maybe not entirely convincing evidence going back to origins of man, but at least in a smaller context, such as the past 50 years. Compare that to evidence of Creationism, or the basis that everything was created by God. The majority of that evidence is anecdotal; it's one's interpretation of the world around you. The evidence isn't largely based on the scientific method, and I can't clearly describe why I thought plant X or animal Y was a part of God's creation aside from "that makes sense to me." While that is perfectly acceptable for some, it isn't for others. In my opinion, schools, as a whole, are to be places where the former (scientific evidence) is to be taught.
(I'm a Christian for FWIW. I just think that everything needs to have its place. If you desire a school where debate against Evolution is welcome, there are plenty of private schools that fit that mold.)
... he should have just stuck to "Win Ben Stein's Money?"
Thanks much, that was a very helpful link!
Anyone have a link, or know off-hand, the major differences between this and the latest Ubuntu release? I realize there's the APT/RPM difference, but aside from that, what is notable?
As usual, mod parent down. Link is a fake. Must be fun to spend all day trolling /. like this...
I was of the understanding that plants (at least those that photosynthesize) only need water, carbon dioxide, and sunlight. Oxygen, I think, is a product of photosynthesis, not an input.
Not that there is an abundance of H2O and CO2 on the moon, though... at least... I'm not aware of there being one.
I am by no means an expert here, but couldn't that mean that one million times more light was escaping before?
Without reading TFA... how do they know it was (just) 10,000 SSNs? Did they just approximate the number of entries already in the offenders list and just use that? Couldn't there potentially be more?
I currently own a Dell Vostro 1700. It has a 17" widescreen @ 1440x900, and it does not have the glossy screen. I purchased it a little over a month ago. Perhaps you could try one of those?
As a father of an autistic child, I can totally understand an emotional and illogical response to the suggestion of a Thimerosal/autism link. Believe me, at first it had me somewhat enraged as well. In light of some other drugs that have come under fire in past years for either under-delivering on promises or outright harming people that take them, it only makes sense that some people are going to look at a statement like that and say "Oh, look, something *else* the FDA missed!"
The problem is most people nowadays seem to either 1) lack the capacity to think for themselves (either mentally or as a result of time constraints, etc.) 2) lack the desire to think for themselves. After all, why bother doing that when someone else has already done it for me?
I also think that both sides are sitting too much in the area of absolutes. It seems that most scientists insist that *every* vaccine is safe for *every* child, and the inverse is true for those who think Thimerosal causes autism. Obviously, just the mere presence of Thimerosal doesn't cause autism, because if it did we'd all be autistic. But at the same time, I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that the large number of vaccines that are administered at once nowadays, along with other possible factors, are at the source.
Autism can be very difficult to work with as a parent, and I hope they find out the cause/cure soon. But flying off the handle, on either side, isn't going to get it done.
To be fair, I didn't say *I* was the Sage consultant. :)
I honestly was totally unaware of this. Thanks for the head's up.
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