Bingo. Same thing happend to AMD some years back remember? It was covered here. Some Atholons or whatever were being sold at clock rates that AMD did not produce. Turns out someone took the marginal parts and re-badged them at a lower speed and sold them.
I'm just one person, but together with the GP poster I do not use Nike products. I've received them as gifts perodically, and then I may or may not use them depending on who gave it to me. If I can't return it I usually give it to the local shelter. Same with Sony. I used to be a huge Sony fanboi My entire studio used to be Sony. Al the BetaCam stuff still is (obviously), and anything that has not yet died is still in use. New gear is not Sony, however, and hasn't been for almost 5 years now. I've been mildly supprised with Lucky Goldstar's performance and have switched my monitors to them with the last upgrade. -nB
I had someone ask "what's that" to which I replied "nethack". They instant assumed I was some evil hacker and informed the gate personel. Sucky day for me.
I had to explain that it was a game "see it's in my games folder" and that it was also available as a GUI "see here it is with pictures". Wasen't till I showed them my badge and business cards from the multinational that I work for that they started beliving me.
After that I only played in GUI mode while in public. (ASCII at work though, 'cause anyone who know's I'm not working also won't rat me out:-) -nB
The encryption would happen on a smart card chip, every transaction gets a new key. There would have to be a unique identifier header, but without the rest of the data you'd not be able to use that header number effectively. -nB
You know I've often wondered if you could have an out going message that informed the seller that your time to listen to their pitch was worth $1.10 per second. Could you enforce that once they said whatever, here's my pitch &&|| if it was a recording that started? -nB
*psst* They didn't want you to point out that bit.
Kinda like the C&D I got from Farmers, they quoted a whole lot of crap from Title 15, but when you look there are two halves and they were quoting from the commercial half. The other half says: comparitive/critical/commentary/educational/etc. uses are exempt.
Ok, lets go with: In my case it was free and all I had to do was deal with a dongle, as opposed to buying a comparable package for $5K. In either case my data would be in a binary format and not accessable without the program, and in either case I likely could find someone who would convert or export my data should I lose my dongle.
By the way, your counter argument was a bit of a straw-man wasn't it. I have no expectation of my software quitting in 6 months and my data being held ransom. -nB
While I agree with you in princaple, in practice options are not always available (In my case the SW was free so why not use it). Our office did the soft ice trick because of "borrowers". I'm not sure where we stood in case of an SBA audit, but anyone who had an iced install had a dongle locked in their desk.
Yes but that assumes I pay to upgrade 9 seperate design packages... I do not have that kind of money:-) (I "inhereted" these when my company upgraded, and no there are no licence issues, because we let our coverage lapse so we had to buy full releases for our upgrade). -nB
Yeah, but I don't see how this would work here. They can not have the smartcard chip do the decryption because you need to remove the disk from the USB port to place it in the PC, hence you are really transferring data from the USB dongle to the PC, that data is likely a proprietary binary with an embedded decryption key and algorithim. It all boils down to the thing being a DVD and a thumb drive. step one: execute app from thumb drive, step two: insert DVD. Since the decryption is still happening on the users PC and not a smartcard or other hardened device, I predict a DOA copy protection format. -nB
Hence the continued popularity of soft ice. Install soft ice, insstall program, trap dongle call with soft ice, done.
Note that if you do a re-install you will need the dongle again, but at least for day to day operations no more 3-7 dongles packed onto the parallel port conflicting with each other. -nB
Which is all fine and dandy, wxcept cloning does not alter the DNA. So Fricken There.
What you are bitching about is GMO foods, and I agree there may be cause for concern with the BT toxin grafted into corn (for an example). In the case of cloned foods no alteration has been made to the genome, thus the label "CLONE".
By the way, do you like wine? Most wine grapes are clones. Do you like African Violates? They are propagated by cloning. How 'bout irisis? Clones? Yep!
Not that I'm a huge gamer, but I will *not* buy this product. Really that simple. [rant] I don't think my IP address should be logged for anything other than identifying cheaters. I don't think the game should run extra processes that will dog my machine. I don't think that the Joe Sixpack will notice, but fortunately most gamers are not Joe:-) I hope that the publisher gets what they've got coming. [/rant]
Actually that's an even better point than mine. Taken to the extreme: The BlackBox is then trucked to the datacenter where it is plugged into the logal grid infrastructure (multiple power and backbones) but otherwise remains unchanged. The datacenter is then really just a (hopefully shaded)big expensive secure parking lot. I could see this being someone's business model. Modular datacenter. How deep can you stack these? Two rows of three or would the one in the middle bottom location then cook? -nB
Latency. If you're main datacenter is in The Planet down in Tx and you want a presence in the EU without the cost of a datacenter you can drop one of these off at the local telco peering point and wham! instant local presence. Later when traffic dictates you could consider upgrading to a full datacenter.
On a completely tangental note: Beowulf cluster anyone? -nB
I dunno. I'm just a tech and when my daughter was born I noted that she was born on Friday the 13th on a full moon, so I wondered: "gee I wonder how often that the 13th is a Friday and a full moon?" Answer? 11 For whatever reason I thought that was pretty cool, so her 11th and 22nd birthdays are going to be huge, her 33rd likely se will want to ignore:-) -nb
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Bingo.
Same thing happend to AMD some years back remember? It was covered here. Some Atholons or whatever were being sold at clock rates that AMD did not produce. Turns out someone took the marginal parts and re-badged them at a lower speed and sold them.
-nB
I wear exclusively Ecco shoes (including dress shoes), except at work where my employer specifies (and pays for) the shoes.
-nB
I'm just one person, but together with the GP poster I do not use Nike products. I've received them as gifts perodically, and then I may or may not use them depending on who gave it to me. If I can't return it I usually give it to the local shelter. Same with Sony. I used to be a huge Sony fanboi My entire studio used to be Sony. Al the BetaCam stuff still is (obviously), and anything that has not yet died is still in use. New gear is not Sony, however, and hasn't been for almost 5 years now.
I've been mildly supprised with Lucky Goldstar's performance and have switched my monitors to them with the last upgrade.
-nB
Well I have doing things with stuff on tubes.
So there!
-nB
I had someone ask "what's that" to which I replied "nethack". They instant assumed I was some evil hacker and informed the gate personel. Sucky day for me.
:-)
I had to explain that it was a game "see it's in my games folder" and that it was also available as a GUI "see here it is with pictures". Wasen't till I showed them my badge and business cards from the multinational that I work for that they started beliving me.
After that I only played in GUI mode while in public. (ASCII at work though, 'cause anyone who know's I'm not working also won't rat me out
-nB
You're not getting it.
The encryption would happen on a smart card chip, every transaction gets a new key. There would have to be a unique identifier header, but without the rest of the data you'd not be able to use that header number effectively.
-nB
You know I've often wondered if you could have an out going message that informed the seller that your time to listen to their pitch was worth $1.10 per second. Could you enforce that once they said whatever, here's my pitch &&|| if it was a recording that started?
-nB
I was going to say, I bet the pirates in the scouts will be the first ones earning a merit badge (in an ironic twist).
-nB
Sad thing is you're modded funny when it really should be insightful (actually I wish we had a +1 inciteful available as well).
-nB
*psst*
p age=E1_First_Takedown.html Basically the same concept, just a different reason.
They didn't want you to point out that bit.
Kinda like the C&D I got from Farmers, they quoted a whole lot of crap from Title 15, but when you look there are two halves and they were quoting from the commercial half. The other half says: comparitive/critical/commentary/educational/etc. uses are exempt.
The entire C&D with annotated commentary is available here:
http://farmersreallysucks.com/cgi-bin/QAD_CMS.pl?
-nB
Ok, lets go with:
In my case it was free and all I had to do was deal with a dongle, as opposed to buying a comparable package for $5K. In either case my data would be in a binary format and not accessable without the program, and in either case I likely could find someone who would convert or export my data should I lose my dongle.
By the way, your counter argument was a bit of a straw-man wasn't it. I have no expectation of my software quitting in 6 months and my data being held ransom.
-nB
While I agree with you in princaple, in practice options are not always available (In my case the SW was free so why not use it).
Our office did the soft ice trick because of "borrowers". I'm not sure where we stood in case of an SBA audit, but anyone who had an iced install had a dongle locked in their desk.
-nB
"Try that with heroin."
Fsck heroin, try that with plain ol smokes. It's been almost 4 years and I still want one now and then...
-nB
Yes but that assumes I pay to upgrade 9 seperate design packages... :-) (I "inhereted" these when my company upgraded, and no there are no licence issues, because we let our coverage lapse so we had to buy full releases for our upgrade).
I do not have that kind of money
-nB
Yeah, but I don't see how this would work here.
They can not have the smartcard chip do the decryption because you need to remove the disk from the USB port to place it in the PC, hence you are really transferring data from the USB dongle to the PC, that data is likely a proprietary binary with an embedded decryption key and algorithim. It all boils down to the thing being a DVD and a thumb drive. step one: execute app from thumb drive, step two: insert DVD.
Since the decryption is still happening on the users PC and not a smartcard or other hardened device, I predict a DOA copy protection format.
-nB
I don't think you could even use it on a dell, what with the recessed USB ports on the front and all and the depth of the case on the back...
-nB
Hence the continued popularity of soft ice.
Install soft ice, insstall program, trap dongle call with soft ice, done.
Note that if you do a re-install you will need the dongle again, but at least for day to day operations no more 3-7 dongles packed onto the parallel port conflicting with each other.
-nB
Really? :-)
I just fill my whois with trash and have a registrar who really doesn't care that much
-nB
Which is all fine and dandy, wxcept cloning does not alter the DNA.
So Fricken There.
What you are bitching about is GMO foods, and I agree there may be cause for concern with the BT toxin grafted into corn (for an example). In the case of cloned foods no alteration has been made to the genome, thus the label "CLONE".
By the way, do you like wine? Most wine grapes are clones.
Do you like African Violates? They are propagated by cloning.
How 'bout irisis? Clones? Yep!
Shall I continue?
-nB
I really don't see the problem here. (agreeing with you)
These anamals are not GMOs they are clones. Big differance.
-nB
Not that I'm a huge gamer, but I will *not* buy this product. :-)
Really that simple.
[rant]
I don't think my IP address should be logged for anything other than identifying cheaters.
I don't think the game should run extra processes that will dog my machine.
I don't think that the Joe Sixpack will notice, but fortunately most gamers are not Joe
I hope that the publisher gets what they've got coming.
[/rant]
-nB
Actually that's an even better point than mine.
Taken to the extreme:
The BlackBox is then trucked to the datacenter where it is plugged into the logal grid infrastructure (multiple power and backbones) but otherwise remains unchanged.
The datacenter is then really just a (hopefully shaded)big expensive secure parking lot.
I could see this being someone's business model. Modular datacenter. How deep can you stack these? Two rows of three or would the one in the middle bottom location then cook?
-nB
Latency.
If you're main datacenter is in The Planet down in Tx and you want a presence in the EU without the cost of a datacenter you can drop one of these off at the local telco peering point and wham! instant local presence. Later when traffic dictates you could consider upgrading to a full datacenter.
On a completely tangental note:
Beowulf cluster anyone?
-nB
Then you are a nit.
He has done nothing to compare with Genocide.
I dunno. I'm just a tech and when my daughter was born I noted that she was born on Friday the 13th on a full moon, so I wondered: :-)
"gee I wonder how often that the 13th is a Friday and a full moon?"
Answer? 11
For whatever reason I thought that was pretty cool, so her 11th and 22nd birthdays are going to be huge, her 33rd likely se will want to ignore
-nb