Slackware has always been one of the best distros to learn the ins and outs of how linux functions in general. Say what you must about slackware users trying to be hardcore but being so-called "hardcore" is all about effiency. Why should one use KDE when he has all the tools he needs in Enlightenment or Fluxbox?
Nothing's stopping a user from running KDE or Gnome. If slackware was about being hardcore without gui, then you wouldn't see tools like xwmconfig to make it easy for anybody to switch from window managers/DE or cd's with full packages n source of kde, gnome, xfce flux and more or sites like Linuxpackages.net for easy upgrades of packages.
and I'm talking about this part: If John Wayne had been a Linux user, he would have used Gentoo. Gentoo users are pioneers, people who like to live close to the metal, and don't mind hurting themselves on sharp objects.
I'll bet my last dollar that a lot of gentoo users, if they used slackware, would hurt themself more than on gentoo. Some people use emerge without knowing wtf its doing and if you give them a real distro, they're gonna be lost and go back to gentoo or a distro with an easy package manager. I have nothing against package managers.
Slackware is the pure thing. You actually learn out of it. Of course when you're done learning and you are sick of it, then ok you can go to gentoo or something like debian sarge but nowadays, it's not true that every gentoo user knows how gentoo and/or portage works.
Some of that 250K should go in development directly given to the mozilla foundation. They made firefox and they could always use more help financially. Who doesn't?
Some of that other 250K should go in advertisement such as being a sponsor in rally events or something? We see HP/Compaq logos on McLaren in F1 so why not the Firefox logo?:D
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That is a very wrong cliche.
If you ask me, by the way you put it, I can say that every country is helping terrorism. There are far too much things happening in the world that we do not see with our own eyes.
Today as we speak, the almighty dollar can manipulate people in ways you can't imagine. I mean, look at SCO, look at M$, look at RIAA, look at Nintendo, look at Oil companies like exxon, LOOK AT THE U.S IN THE 80'S WHEN THEY HELPED SADDAM FOR THE IRAN/IRAQ WAR and much more examples. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that mega corporation OR goverements are after money and that they will get it no matter what.
If Switzerland makes its cash from the banks by having the billions from whomever, then they are happy. That agree with you, they could careless but I doubt another country would care more. In fact put USA in the case of Switzerland and I would bet my bloody two shoes that the U.S would be damn happy to hold the cash of the terrorists like Saddam.
I agree with the parent post. Not only that we shouldn't sacrifice our profits for hardware but we shouldn't try and save a few bucks for cheaper hardware which may die on us.
Ballmer can ask for whatever he wants but the last thing he wants is a $100 pc with no-name hardware that will end up going in flames cause the PSU rails were going berserk.
Lower your damn O/S price and then we might try and build a pc for $200 which will have a longer lifespan.
Power Supply is the heart of the pc. Never go for the cheapest no matter what the situation is. A no-name PSU can die on you anytime if the rails are too fluxuating. My friend had to suffer seeing his unreal tournament cd blow up TWICE in his cd-rom due to the PSU that provided too much wattage to the cd-rom which exploded (with a pak sound!).
The ram has to be something that has to work from beginning to end. How many times have I heard stories of new ram being bought and failing under workload? Why go thru the hassle of testing many dimms and returning them non-stop when a few bucks more can get you cheap priced qualityram like ValueRam.
Motherboard, well it's the backbone. It has to support everything that works under heavy load and that demands wattage from the "suppose-to-be" quality power supply. Just get one that has a company that offers support and that works by providing new bios versions or whatever drivers.
The rest is up to you but if I was him, I'd find and suggest ways to lower the price of the software to have that very same software run on higher-quality hardware.
the only moon with an atmosphere thicker than our terrestrial one.
Does a thicker atmosphere necessarely mean a good thing? By good I mean in terms of maybe the life (if any) on the moon/planet or what ressources we may find or conditions of the air?
It's no surprise, there is a lot of pirating but every customer is treated like one and that's the main problem.
The problem is they still have no solution on how to stop them and you know what? Until now, it's been years of software dev and pirating thru the net and nobody has found a perfect solution. This means, in theory, you can't stop crackers. This doesn't mean companies should give up but it certainly doesn't mean they should treat loyal fans like one.
We went from knobs that were attatched to our televisions to buttons that evolved by having remotes and such.
So today I look at this and I see, the knob but for computers of today and I ask myself, is this proof that old but simple technology is still useful today even though we evolved and changed the standard from knobs to buttons/touchpads/screens
Until now, open source software has proven to be able to scare M$. Why can't open source hardware scare competitors of it's field? Obviously it's not the same but hopefully, if they all planned it well, and by the article it shows that they got a nice idea, I'm sure a project such as this would get sufficent support to progress.
I'm taking in account that you are excluding their portable audio products such as the HI-MD's. I won't start a whole thing on Atrac3 so I think I'l stop this here.
As for the stores, we've had Sony Stores (La Maison Sony here in Montreal) since years and the good thing I find about it is the fast service when you need it and they send anything that needs reperation in Toronto the next business day.
I will however mention something that might make you shrug. Not because it's the "Sony Store" that the employees know about their products.
When the HI-MD's first made their appearance in the internet, I decided to go to a sony store to get more possible information and I assumed they'd know a thing or two. Surprisingly, the employee goes "Yes, the HI-MD's will play mp3's although the format to use is atrac3plus because blablabla". Not only would Sony never make a product remotely similar to that (so much pride in atrac) but what he did was totally wrong. He didn't know about portable media of Sony exclusively using atrac3 so he decided to make shit up.
That is not the problem with Linux and Xandros haven't even pinpointed the problem.
There are various problems on why Linux is "hard" for new users. The simple one that I can say is "UI". Everybody sees computer, that computer better have an interface like explorer or they are doomed! Let me go into detail with some points.
- no unified DE. The silly "competition" of kde and gnome isn't helping too much. Having distributions lately taking preferences of a DE over another makes a user think that distro "A" sucks because distro "B" does not use what "A" use. In the end, they don't understand that it's all linux no matter what you choose.
- No universal "format" This I'm afraid will take a long friggin time. Having rpm's for some, deb's for others, tgz for slack does not solve the main problem. Companies/organizations taking preference of a format/package over another. Look at ATI who take in favor of RPM-Based distros to provide their drivers (I am aware that they suck. This was simply an example). It's great to see that some provide.deb's and specific rpm's but it's not enough.
A bit out of context but just to tell people that, yes Xandros may seem easy for some people but it's still Linux. You will have to face a challenge sooner or later. Linux isn't windoze where you don't need to understand what a certain action does in the background or how we can improve it. It's still an enthusiast "Operating System" (or Kernel. call it whatever you want) if you ask me which requires nonstop tweaking and you won't manage to do all of that from exclusively clicking your mice.
Until we find a perfect "format" (??), different people will always take a preference over another.
- package managers We need a way to track down what we install, modify or remove. In other words, something like apt but more global. This again I'm refering to the last point I made. Maybe if we had a universal format, maybe then we'd see various package managers available to almost all distributions to make the user's life easier. YES COMPILING "MIGHT" BE FUN FOR SOME But in a world like today, does every user care bout gaining those extra secondes on optimization which they aren't even aware of? Why should they care. They want to know how to install/upgrade/uninstall programs. This is why I show people new to linux the Debian distribution. They don't regret it.
If I made mistakes of I need correction, please go ahead:p. I'm sure there are other reasons why it's hard to meet the needs of a migrating end-user and it would be interesting to know other people's point of views for me and you and YOU.
Not only was that a cool joke but I doubt theres somebody in this world who have an infinit quantity of liquid nitrogen to every few hours (or whatever time it takes) to put some more on the cpu and whichever chip he decided to also cool using LN2.
Then again, doing that everytime would create more muscle in the arms than clicking that mice.
I don't think we should worry. I think MS understood that OSS is more than just for enthusiasts and that there is potential. I'm pretty sure they are testing this with WiX to see how far it goes and how popular it gets and if it's a success on a long shot, that they will create other projects for the same reason.
Sure its MS and they're evil in some way but remember, they aren't SCO:o
How about we educate users on good internet habits I totally agree.
Sure goverements can make these laws but will anybody make sure of them.
Which other group of people can help to stop/reduce spyware? YOU as an individual, as an employee or whatever your function is.
All the friggin companies should tell their employees about these. Some people get spyware and some don't. The ones that don't are doing their job of being aware and it's not a hard job: install the tools (adware, spybot, etc.) & firefox/mozilla. There you go you're set (email is always a gamble though). Now let's see more companies try and take these similar steps and these "laws" will be somewhat useless.
The second I saw devil-worshipper, I thought of the owner of despair.com
May I redirect your attention to their faq and check out the "What's the deal section" where we see questions similar to the ones Claw919 talked about for type 1. However, that FAQ is a mixture of humour and useful information such as poster sizes.
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Official Moto? Really? who made it official?
Slackware has always been one of the best distros to learn the ins and outs of how linux functions in general. Say what you must about slackware users trying to be hardcore but being so-called "hardcore" is all about effiency. Why should one use KDE when he has all the tools he needs in Enlightenment or Fluxbox?
Nothing's stopping a user from running KDE or Gnome. If slackware was about being hardcore without gui, then you wouldn't see tools like xwmconfig to make it easy for anybody to switch from window managers/DE or cd's with full packages n source of kde, gnome, xfce flux and more or sites like Linuxpackages.net for easy upgrades of packages.
and I'm talking about this part:
If John Wayne had been a Linux user, he would have used Gentoo. Gentoo users are pioneers, people who like to live close to the metal, and don't mind hurting themselves on sharp objects.
I'll bet my last dollar that a lot of gentoo users, if they used slackware, would hurt themself more than on gentoo. Some people use emerge without knowing wtf its doing and if you give them a real distro, they're gonna be lost and go back to gentoo or a distro with an easy package manager. I have nothing against package managers.
Slackware is the pure thing. You actually learn out of it. Of course when you're done learning and you are sick of it, then ok you can go to gentoo or something like debian sarge but nowadays, it's not true that every gentoo user knows how gentoo and/or portage works.
Some of that 250K should go in development directly given to the mozilla foundation. They made firefox and they could always use more help financially. Who doesn't?
:D
Some of that other 250K should go in advertisement such as being a sponsor in rally events or something? We see HP/Compaq logos on McLaren in F1 so why not the Firefox logo?
That is a very wrong cliche.
If you ask me, by the way you put it, I can say that every country is helping terrorism. There are far too much things happening in the world that we do not see with our own eyes.
Today as we speak, the almighty dollar can manipulate people in ways you can't imagine. I mean, look at SCO, look at M$, look at RIAA, look at Nintendo, look at Oil companies like exxon, LOOK AT THE U.S IN THE 80'S WHEN THEY HELPED SADDAM FOR THE IRAN/IRAQ WAR and much more examples. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that mega corporation OR goverements are after money and that they will get it no matter what.
If Switzerland makes its cash from the banks by having the billions from whomever, then they are happy. That agree with you, they could careless but I doubt another country would care more. In fact put USA in the case of Switzerland and I would bet my bloody two shoes that the U.S would be damn happy to hold the cash of the terrorists like Saddam.
I agree with the parent post. Not only that we shouldn't sacrifice our profits for hardware but we shouldn't try and save a few bucks for cheaper hardware which may die on us.
Ballmer can ask for whatever he wants but the last thing he wants is a $100 pc with no-name hardware that will end up going in flames cause the PSU rails were going berserk.
Lower your damn O/S price and then we might try and build a pc for $200 which will have a longer lifespan.
Power Supply is the heart of the pc. Never go for the cheapest no matter what the situation is. A no-name PSU can die on you anytime if the rails are too fluxuating. My friend had to suffer seeing his unreal tournament cd blow up TWICE in his cd-rom due to the PSU that provided too much wattage to the cd-rom which exploded (with a pak sound!).
The ram has to be something that has to work from beginning to end. How many times have I heard stories of new ram being bought and failing under workload? Why go thru the hassle of testing many dimms and returning them non-stop when a few bucks more can get you cheap priced qualityram like ValueRam.
Motherboard, well it's the backbone. It has to support everything that works under heavy load and that demands wattage from the "suppose-to-be" quality power supply. Just get one that has a company that offers support and that works by providing new bios versions or whatever drivers.
The rest is up to you but if I was him, I'd find and suggest ways to lower the price of the software to have that very same software run on higher-quality hardware.
the only moon with an atmosphere thicker than our terrestrial one.
Does a thicker atmosphere necessarely mean a good thing? By good I mean in terms of maybe the life (if any) on the moon/planet or what ressources we may find or conditions of the air?
It's no surprise, there is a lot of pirating but every customer is treated like one and that's the main problem.
The problem is they still have no solution on how to stop them and you know what? Until now, it's been years of software dev and pirating thru the net and nobody has found a perfect solution. This means, in theory, you can't stop crackers. This doesn't mean companies should give up but it certainly doesn't mean they should treat loyal fans like one.
I'l leave the problem-solving to you guys.
We went from knobs that were attatched to our televisions to buttons that evolved by having remotes and such.
So today I look at this and I see, the knob but for computers of today and I ask myself, is this proof that old but simple technology is still useful today even though we evolved and changed the standard from knobs to buttons/touchpads/screens
No. You mean like shooting Flying Lawn Mowers in a flying barrel.
"New Inventions Featured at the BIS"
They should send this thing at the BIS.
Finally a mean dream killing machine but in the same way that makes every 16 year old get some cash in their pockets.
CowboyNeal fucks in it
Until now, open source software has proven to be able to scare M$. Why can't open source hardware scare competitors of it's field? Obviously it's not the same but hopefully, if they all planned it well, and by the article it shows that they got a nice idea, I'm sure a project such as this would get sufficent support to progress.
"Sony's already nice line up of electronics?"
I'm taking in account that you are excluding their portable audio products such as the HI-MD's. I won't start a whole thing on Atrac3 so I think I'l stop this here.
As for the stores, we've had Sony Stores (La Maison Sony here in Montreal) since years and the good thing I find about it is the fast service when you need it and they send anything that needs reperation in Toronto the next business day.
I will however mention something that might make you shrug. Not because it's the "Sony Store" that the employees know about their products.
When the HI-MD's first made their appearance in the internet, I decided to go to a sony store to get more possible information and I assumed they'd know a thing or two. Surprisingly, the employee goes "Yes, the HI-MD's will play mp3's although the format to use is atrac3plus because blablabla". Not only would Sony never make a product remotely similar to that (so much pride in atrac) but what he did was totally wrong. He didn't know about portable media of Sony exclusively using atrac3 so he decided to make shit up.
Anybody else got similar stories with liars?
That is not the problem with Linux and Xandros haven't even pinpointed the problem.
.deb's and specific rpm's but it's not enough.
:p. I'm sure there are other reasons why it's hard to meet the needs of a migrating end-user and it would be interesting to know other people's point of views for me and you and YOU.
There are various problems on why Linux is "hard" for new users. The simple one that I can say is "UI". Everybody sees computer, that computer better have an interface like explorer or they are doomed! Let me go into detail with some points.
- no unified DE.
The silly "competition" of kde and gnome isn't helping too much. Having distributions lately taking preferences of a DE over another makes a user think that distro "A" sucks because distro "B" does not use what "A" use. In the end, they don't understand that it's all linux no matter what you choose.
- No universal "format"
This I'm afraid will take a long friggin time. Having rpm's for some, deb's for others, tgz for slack does not solve the main problem. Companies/organizations taking preference of a format/package over another. Look at ATI who take in favor of RPM-Based distros to provide their drivers (I am aware that they suck. This was simply an example). It's great to see that some provide
A bit out of context but just to tell people that, yes Xandros may seem easy for some people but it's still Linux. You will have to face a challenge sooner or later. Linux isn't windoze where you don't need to understand what a certain action does in the background or how we can improve it. It's still an enthusiast "Operating System" (or Kernel. call it whatever you want) if you ask me which requires nonstop tweaking and you won't manage to do all of that from exclusively clicking your mice.
Until we find a perfect "format" (??), different people will always take a preference over another.
- package managers
We need a way to track down what we install, modify or remove. In other words, something like apt but more global. This again I'm refering to the last point I made. Maybe if we had a universal format, maybe then we'd see various package managers available to almost all distributions to make the user's life easier. YES COMPILING "MIGHT" BE FUN FOR SOME But in a world like today, does every user care bout gaining those extra secondes on optimization which they aren't even aware of? Why should they care. They want to know how to install/upgrade/uninstall programs. This is why I show people new to linux the Debian distribution. They don't regret it.
If I made mistakes of I need correction, please go ahead
Well mine will have a muffler instead of a firewire jack. When it transfers, you'll hear the following.
It's up to nobody. I grew up while being exposed at porno and I turned out titty.. erm.. okay I mean.
Not only was that a cool joke but I doubt theres somebody in this world who have an infinit quantity of liquid nitrogen to every few hours (or whatever time it takes) to put some more on the cpu and whichever chip he decided to also cool using LN2.
Then again, doing that everytime would create more muscle in the arms than clicking that mice.
Playing pong at 70% accuracy, I can't think to imagine if we hook this technology and make him play CS what the end result would be.
Either a nonstop madness of headshots or a teamkilling madness by grenading his teammates cause he's getting "bs" from the team.
.
sign me up!
Safer than at Jim's Bank from Family Guy where the guy makes tattoo's of Kermit the Frog
I don't think we should worry. I think MS understood that OSS is more than just for enthusiasts and that there is potential. I'm pretty sure they are testing this with WiX to see how far it goes and how popular it gets and if it's a success on a long shot, that they will create other projects for the same reason.
:o
Sure its MS and they're evil in some way but remember, they aren't SCO
How about we educate users on good internet habits
I totally agree.
Sure goverements can make these laws but will anybody make sure of them.
Which other group of people can help to stop/reduce spyware? YOU as an individual, as an employee or whatever your function is.
All the friggin companies should tell their employees about these. Some people get spyware and some don't. The ones that don't are doing their job of being aware and it's not a hard job: install the tools (adware, spybot, etc.) & firefox/mozilla. There you go you're set (email is always a gamble though). Now let's see more companies try and take these similar steps and these "laws" will be somewhat useless.
The second I saw devil-worshipper, I thought of the owner of despair.com
May I redirect your attention to their faq and check out the "What's the deal section" where we see questions similar to the ones Claw919 talked about for type 1. However, that FAQ is a mixture of humour and useful information such as poster sizes.
Jay Sherman: It Stinks! It Stinks! It Stinks!
Doctor: Sure Mr. Sherman. Everything stinks.
but aren't people done making money off of his franchise yet?
no. They take example from George Lucas.
It's over in about 50 seconds. Wow! It really is just like sex!
Unless your girlfriend is "one of those", then I doubt you'll wait two hours in line to do it. Am I right or am I right =)