Also, have you ever seen an architect do the actual physical work to construct the building? I can imagine somebody designing the building for free. But who's gonna put the bricks upon eachother? As long as we all work with money, buy our shoppings with money and can't do anything without money this world will never be really free.
Hm, did this sound too much like a Star Trek episode?:)
Tough read indeed. Why, it took me longer to read (and understand) the Silmarillion, than it was with LotR (even though LotR is about 700(?) pages bigger). The problem is that you get introduced to 3 new characters on every page. Plus references to their history and family tree, etc etc. But really worth reading if you liked LotR and The Hobbit.
Message-ID: 1991Aug25.205708.9541@klaava.helsinki.fi From: torvalds@klaava.helsinki.fi (Linus Benedict Torvalds) To: Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: What would you like to see most in minix? Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Hello everybody out there using minix-I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386 (486) AT clones. This has been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them:-)
all marketing people are evil. Perhaps we should enact the death penalty for marketing droids?
I know i should ignore this comment. Everything in me says to ignore it... But since i have a gf who's in marketing i can't help but reply. And since i don't give a flying f*ck about my karma, here's my comment:
You had a very valid comment. Very well thought, and provided the information you acquired on the internet to back you up. But then you preceed your final sentence by "Not intended to be a flamebait", as if everything you say afterwards should be taken as 'optional reading'. I mean, death penalty for marketing droids? So my gf should die because you hate marketing. And she *has* to die, because according to you, she's evil. And all evil should die.
Imagine if the source for IE was publicly available, and people were actively contributing to it. Wouldn't it make a far more stable application? Wouldn't bugs be found (and fixed) faster? Wouldn't it be better if you didn't get so many worms/virii because yet another Outlook Express bug was exploited?
Yes, the Gecko engine is far better. But why? Maybe *because* it's open source? If the IE package (including OE) was open source, wouldn't it be a better product as well?
You're right. I mean, it's nice an all that they're starting more open source projects. But it would be even nicer if they said: "Okay, we've thought about this and we're going to make one Microsoft application Open Source. You can say which one." My idea would be the Internet Explorer package. Motivation? Why, just look at all the virii/worms/etc that make non-IE users' life more difficult. They already ship it with all versions of Windows, so they don't have to fear that IE will become an option. In fact, if IE would get the support from the Open Source community, it would probably make a good competitor for Mozilla (to name just one).
I can understand your frustration. It must be difficult to hear so many bad stories about fellow countrymen. I have to admit that i am guilty on this discrimination as well. When i was on irc and somebody from a.ro domain would join, we immediately assumed this person was up to no good. When he/she would even think about being annoying he/she was banned without a second thought.
What i'm curious about, is why this is so common. Alot of people associate.ro with havoc. Are there maybe alot of hacker movies being displayed in your country? Or popular forums, or just a hype that will (hopefully) pass? I'd like to know.
Or if you have a proxy, and you want everybody who connects to it to benefit from it you can use bannerfilter. It works with squid. Alot of rules are automaticly created and you can set your own rules as well ofcourse. Works as a filter for banners as well as popups (it replaces the popup with a self-closing javascript page). I'm using it for quite some time now and haven't been able to detect any flaws.
Although i agree with you on the point "if you dont like it, dont use it", i have to disagree on these things (and excuse me if it seems sarcastic, this is not my intention
*Ability to talk to people at any time. If my friend isn't at the bar, I can't talk to him. The chance he's near his computer is much higher
Let's see if i get this right: you have a friend who is either at the bar or at his computer? And he doesn't have a (mobile) phone?
*Ability to hold multiple conversations. I can hold 4 or 5 simultaneous text conversations, only 1 oral one
I agree with you here. Up to a point. You see, the reason why you can hold so many different conversations at the same time online is because no matter how fast you type, it still is slower than speech. If i talk to you really slowly, and pause after each sentence and wait patiently until you respond, i can hold 4-5 'speech' conversations at the same time as well.
*Ability to talk asynchronousl. I can post something, he can read it later. A bar doesn't do that
*cough* "Hey, bartender! Can you give my friend this message?".
On the last 2 things i agree with you, and i could also add things like:
* it's a great tool for shy people
* remain anonymous
* you don't have to shower!! (okay, this was lame:P)
English isn't my first language, so i was looking at the topic for some time and this is what i thought it means:
- Spam is United State Roots - Spam his United State Roots - Spam has United State Roots
While only the last one makes sense, i still don't understand it. Doesn't 'roots' imply the first spam ever sent originated in the US? Didn't we already knew this for about 25 years? Wasn't DEC the first to send spam (to ARPANET)?
Maybe i understand things completely wrong here. Please feel free to correct me.
Be sure though to include *all* relevant log files too. I've sent a couple of mails in the past to ISPs and i think i got a response from about 50% of the ISPs contacted, from which only one responded once by saying they contacted the individual and took appropriate actions... whatever that may mean.
You'd be better off configuring your security better though.
Lots of people talking about 'how-to', but nobody really answering your question. Typical slashdot...
I have to admit, i did the same; providing a solution without looking at the question.. *shame*
Also, when the server dies, _everybody_ dies.
Ofcourse, if you don't use a backup server. Heartbeat etc., and nobody will feel a thing when a server suddenly goes down.
And if you use commodity hardware for the thin client, it can be harder to lock things down on the client end. General rule of thumb is NO drives of any kind with the client configured to boot across the network.
Many people have suggested the SunRay, and it's hard to argue with that - it's one of the first thin clients that's really usable (IMHO).
We use WYSE WBTs here. Totally diskless with just the bare minimum software to connect to the servers. Easy to administer and deploy. And if you're a little worried about the costs of Windows licenses (for the WBTs), you can buy them without software installed and load a custom (linux) image on them.
Thinstation is a 'distro' that i'm currently using at work (a hospital). It can be used to connect to Citrix, RDP, VNC, Unix, Telnet/SSH, or (with the help of fluxbox/icewm) as a lightweight standalone linux workstation (with an optional FireFox package). The people on the mailinglist are VERY helpful as well, so you don't need to worry about support when you've a problem.
I can really recommend it as a thinclient solution.
The same way that a virus spreads through email. First nobody heard of it. Then nobody would believe it. Then Microsoft had to make a patch for Outlook. Do you really think phones nowadays with virtually unlimited possibilities are safe? Maybe for now, yes.
Well... another post in this thread speaks about his daughter who has only one hand. Still think this device is useless? It's (one of) the best reasons i've read so far to develop this device.
As for your opinion about being to late to educate... I thought "It's never too late to learn" was a commonly accepted sentence;)
Maybe you need to expand your horizon a little, and try to look at what others might need, not only yourself.
If there is a point, it could be 'bringing the hardware to the public'. A cry for help: "Help us give something (hardware+software) to the people who need it".
Maybe they just lack the knowledge or time or resources to develop the software and want to make the product available to those who _can_ develop it. Face it, what place better than Slashdot to cry out for (open source) help?
You're right. I don't HAVE to. But sometimes i WANT to. If you look at this with a mind like yours, it really doesn't matter anymore: your rights (online), because if you don't like it you should stay home...
Sorry i can't find better words to express my opinion, but i really disagree with this statement.
Slashdot Mirror
Also, have you ever seen an architect do the actual physical work to construct the building? I can imagine somebody designing the building for free. But who's gonna put the bricks upon eachother? As long as we all work with money, buy our shoppings with money and can't do anything without money this world will never be really free.
:)
Hm, did this sound too much like a Star Trek episode?
What would happen if other things in the world were free?
i'd be drunk 24/7
Tough read indeed. Why, it took me longer to read (and understand) the Silmarillion, than it was with LotR (even though LotR is about 700(?) pages bigger). The problem is that you get introduced to 3 new characters on every page. Plus references to their history and family tree, etc etc. But really worth reading if you liked LotR and The Hobbit.
Message-ID: 1991Aug25.205708.9541@klaava.helsinki.fi
:-)
From: torvalds@klaava.helsinki.fi (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
To: Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Hello everybody out there using minix-I'm doing a (free)
operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional
like gnu) for 386 (486) AT clones. This has been brewing since
april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it
somewhat
Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them
Linus
all marketing people are evil. Perhaps we should enact the death penalty for marketing droids?
I know i should ignore this comment. Everything in me says to ignore it... But since i have a gf who's in marketing i can't help but reply. And since i don't give a flying f*ck about my karma, here's my comment:
You had a very valid comment. Very well thought, and provided the information you acquired on the internet to back you up. But then you preceed your final sentence by "Not intended to be a flamebait", as if everything you say afterwards should be taken as 'optional reading'. I mean, death penalty for marketing droids? So my gf should die because you hate marketing. And she *has* to die, because according to you, she's evil. And all evil should die.
Imagine if the source for IE was publicly available, and people were actively contributing to it. Wouldn't it make a far more stable application? Wouldn't bugs be found (and fixed) faster? Wouldn't it be better if you didn't get so many worms/virii because yet another Outlook Express bug was exploited?
Yes, the Gecko engine is far better. But why? Maybe *because* it's open source? If the IE package (including OE) was open source, wouldn't it be a better product as well?
You're right. I mean, it's nice an all that they're starting more open source projects. But it would be even nicer if they said: "Okay, we've thought about this and we're going to make one Microsoft application Open Source. You can say which one." My idea would be the Internet Explorer package. Motivation? Why, just look at all the virii/worms/etc that make non-IE users' life more difficult. They already ship it with all versions of Windows, so they don't have to fear that IE will become an option. In fact, if IE would get the support from the Open Source community, it would probably make a good competitor for Mozilla (to name just one).
Sorry, i forgot to post The url that has all the info. Click on 'See offer deals'.
you have to pay for this :P 19.99 euro/year for this 2GB baby. And 'this' being Hotmail Plus.
I can understand your frustration. It must be difficult to hear so many bad stories about fellow countrymen. I have to admit that i am guilty on this discrimination as well. When i was on irc and somebody from a .ro domain would join, we immediately assumed this person was up to no good. When he/she would even think about being annoying he/she was banned without a second thought.
.ro with havoc. Are there maybe alot of hacker movies being displayed in your country? Or popular forums, or just a hype that will (hopefully) pass? I'd like to know.
What i'm curious about, is why this is so common. Alot of people associate
Or if you have a proxy, and you want everybody who connects to it to benefit from it you can use bannerfilter. It works with squid. Alot of rules are automaticly created and you can set your own rules as well ofcourse. Works as a filter for banners as well as popups (it replaces the popup with a self-closing javascript page). I'm using it for quite some time now and haven't been able to detect any flaws.
It's called respect, and you don't need any glasses for that.
It's one example I use every time Greenpeace asks me to join.
s/example/excuse
Although i agree with you on the point "if you dont like it, dont use it", i have to disagree on these things (and excuse me if it seems sarcastic, this is not my intention
:P)
*Ability to talk to people at any time. If my friend isn't at the bar, I can't talk to him. The chance he's near his computer is much higher
Let's see if i get this right: you have a friend who is either at the bar or at his computer? And he doesn't have a (mobile) phone?
*Ability to hold multiple conversations. I can hold 4 or 5 simultaneous text conversations, only 1 oral one
I agree with you here. Up to a point. You see, the reason why you can hold so many different conversations at the same time online is because no matter how fast you type, it still is slower than speech. If i talk to you really slowly, and pause after each sentence and wait patiently until you respond, i can hold 4-5 'speech' conversations at the same time as well.
*Ability to talk asynchronousl. I can post something, he can read it later. A bar doesn't do that
*cough* "Hey, bartender! Can you give my friend this message?".
On the last 2 things i agree with you, and i could also add things like:
* it's a great tool for shy people
* remain anonymous
* you don't have to shower!! (okay, this was lame
Some interesting thoughts about what exactly is a moon can be found here
From what i understand from the article is that nobody is sure what exactly the definition of a moon is.
yes, because a proxy server will block spam. A proxy server on your side ... that you only use .. to connect to websites ... and not email ..
or maybe you meant something else?
English isn't my first language, so i was looking at the topic for some time and this is what i thought it means:
- Spam is United State Roots
- Spam his United State Roots
- Spam has United State Roots
While only the last one makes sense, i still don't understand it. Doesn't 'roots' imply the first spam ever sent originated in the US? Didn't we already knew this for about 25 years? Wasn't DEC the first to send spam (to ARPANET)?
Maybe i understand things completely wrong here. Please feel free to correct me.
Be sure though to include *all* relevant log files too. I've sent a couple of mails in the past to ISPs and i think i got a response from about 50% of the ISPs contacted, from which only one responded once by saying they contacted the individual and took appropriate actions ... whatever that may mean.
You'd be better off configuring your security better though.
Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like a woman
they're both designed to explode?
Lots of people talking about 'how-to', but nobody really answering your question. Typical slashdot...
.. *shame*
I have to admit, i did the same; providing a solution without looking at the question
Also, when the server dies, _everybody_ dies.
Ofcourse, if you don't use a backup server. Heartbeat etc., and nobody will feel a thing when a server suddenly goes down.
And if you use commodity hardware for the thin client, it can be harder to lock things down on the client end. General rule of thumb is NO drives of any kind with the client configured to boot across the network. Many people have suggested the SunRay, and it's hard to argue with that - it's one of the first thin clients that's really usable (IMHO).
We use WYSE WBTs here. Totally diskless with just the bare minimum software to connect to the servers. Easy to administer and deploy. And if you're a little worried about the costs of Windows licenses (for the WBTs), you can buy them without software installed and load a custom (linux) image on them.
Thinstation is a 'distro' that i'm currently using at work (a hospital). It can be used to connect to Citrix, RDP, VNC, Unix, Telnet/SSH, or (with the help of fluxbox/icewm) as a lightweight standalone linux workstation (with an optional FireFox package). The people on the mailinglist are VERY helpful as well, so you don't need to worry about support when you've a problem.
I can really recommend it as a thinclient solution.
The same way that a virus spreads through email. First nobody heard of it. Then nobody would believe it. Then Microsoft had to make a patch for Outlook. Do you really think phones nowadays with virtually unlimited possibilities are safe? Maybe for now, yes.
Well ... another post in this thread speaks about his daughter who has only one hand. Still think this device is useless? It's (one of) the best reasons i've read so far to develop this device.
... I thought "It's never too late to learn" was a commonly accepted sentence ;)
As for your opinion about being to late to educate
Maybe you need to expand your horizon a little, and try to look at what others might need, not only yourself.
If there is a point, it could be 'bringing the hardware to the public'. A cry for help: "Help us give something (hardware+software) to the people who need it".
Maybe they just lack the knowledge or time or resources to develop the software and want to make the product available to those who _can_ develop it. Face it, what place better than Slashdot to cry out for (open source) help?
You're right. I don't HAVE to. But sometimes i WANT to. If you look at this with a mind like yours, it really doesn't matter anymore: your rights (online), because if you don't like it you should stay home ...
Sorry i can't find better words to express my opinion, but i really disagree with this statement.