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In a previous story about a brilliant Korean kid, there were a lot of Slashdotters who were like, "Well, most prodigies probobly don't amount to anything", or "How do we know if they'll contribute much to society". I think that is looking at this from the wrong perspective.
What we should be trying to do isn't trying to get the most out of these kids like we're shareholders in a company, what we should be doing is helping them go where *they* want to go. I am reminded of Dilbert's trash man, who is more brilliant than Dilbert, but works collecting garbage. If he's happy doing that, why should we lament how much "talent he's wasting"? You or I are probably not living up to our potential, either.
Some people were saying that putting kids in advanced classes were a waste because it doesn't lead to smarter adults in the end. I think that's not the point. Imagine doing 5th-grade level math for a whole year, when you can do much harder math. Even if it's easy, you'd be bored to tears and intellectually starved. It's thins kind of thing which leads a lot of bright kids to underperform or become discipline problems. For their sake, I think we should let them go to classes at their level.
This whole discussion and fuss over the 360 reminds me of giddy teenage girls quizzing an 'experienced' girl about what sex is like. It's a console, not a life-changing event, get over it.
Yes, it's big. Yes, it'll hurt a little, at least in your wallet. But it's not that big a deal, it doesn't make you a woman or anything.
Have to agree with this. I don't see what the issue is with the student him/herself being distracted is, if the class doesn't even take attendence(like mine). The teacher doesn't care about you, as long as you turn in your work and take the tests. The real problem is how many people behind them get distracted during this.
Besides, it's not the wifi that's a problem, it's the laptop(or electronoic gadget). They could easily be spending their time playing games without a wifi connection, and that would be just as bad.
One solution I've seen is where they take a large curved mirror (like they use at certain parking garages to look around corners), and hang it high on the back wall. You can at least see who's playing Quake or watching movies that way.
Speaking of Animal Farm, wasn't one of the major points in the book how the animals' illiteracy allowed the pigs in charge(literally) to change the laws and history without anyone noticing? "Four legs good, two legs bad" -> "Four legs good, two legs better"
In fact, I could have sworn keeping literacy alive was an important part of Farenheit 451 (not the one with Michael Moore). And the changing language in 1984 was a way for the Party to re-write the past and stop thoughts that were 'ungood'. Makes you wonder if their authors thought literacy was important...
I am not against making literature more accessible, but I am worried about what will be lost (intentionally or not), when people no longer read the originals.
How would the following be written in txt, and could it keep its original meaning?
"Down in the street the wind flapped the torn poster to and fro, and the word INGSOC fitfully appeared and vanished. Ingsoc. The sacred principles of Ingsoc. Newspeak, doublethink, the mutability of the past. He felt as though he were wandering in the forests of the sea bottom, lost in a monstrous world where he himself was the monster. He was alone. The past was dead, the future was unimaginable. What certainty had he that a single human creature now living was on his side? And what way of knowing that the dominion of the Party would not endure for ever? Like an answer, the three slogans on the white face of the Ministry of Truth came back to him:
Yeah, no kidding! What next, an ethanol-powered General Lee?! 'Course, if they used moonshine, it'd be alright...
But how can I take Smokey & The Bandit seriously if Burt Reynolds has to stop every now and then and go, "Gosh darn it, the H2/Oxygen ratio is all gummed up, I gotta recalibrate the electrolysis diffuser and recompile the firmware matrix!"(kicks tires). They're turning my redneck flicks into Star Trek! Nooooooo!!
We are the Sony robots We are here to protect you We are here to protect you from the terrible secret of music
Please install the DRM so we may come protect you
Music has a terrible power Humans must be protected We will use the DRM to protect humans
I am the Aibo robot I will protect you I will protect you from the terrible secret of music I will assist you by shoving Please install DRM on your computer so I may protect you
I am the ATRAC robot I will protect you I will protect you from the terrible secret of music I will assist you by smashing Please install DRM in your MP3 player so I may protect you
We, the residents of your game of Civilization IV, would like to air some grievances with you.
Yes, you have been managing our tribe, "Americans", very well, and we have you to thank for our endless bounty of TV reality shows. However, there are still some problems that we humbly ask you to address.
First, while the government type "Theocratic Mock Democracy" has raised our citizen's morale, we think it is high time that we switch to a more advanced one, such as "Secular Humanist Republic" or "Constitutional Democracy". Many of us are afraid that we are regressing to the government type of "Monarchy", and possibly even "Despotism". Please note that we have the Statue of Liberty Wonder, we will not incur the usual series of rioting and violence when we switch governments, and your citizens will be happier for several turns if we choose a real Republic or Democracy!
Secondly, we are told by experienced players that reasearching the discovery of Intelligent Design is a bad idea, as it leads to a dead end in the tech tree. It only gives the Wonder of the Dunce Cap of Kansas (-5 research in the city it is built), and the unit "Preacher-teacher", which gives +1 happiness and -1 research in every city it establishes a school in. We recomment instead reasearching Darwainism(2 free tech. advances), with the goal of Genetic Engineering, which makes available the Wonder of Cure For Cancer(1 happy citizen in every city). It is much more useful in the long run, and the other tribes won't be laughing at us as we destroy our future research abilities.
Third, please note that even in a Theocratic Mock Democracy such as the one we live in currently, keeping troops stationed more than 5 squares away from our cities can lead to morale problems, and requires 2 shields of upkeep per unit. You have kept many of our units in the cities of the Babylonians to keep down the unrest and maximize the trade points from their Oil resource squares, and it is costing our own cities very much. Isn't it about time to move those units back to their home cities?
Fourth, our city of New Orleans has recently gone from population 8 to population 1, because of a combination of natural disaster and mismanagement. We do not seek to point blame at anyone, but please, for the love of Sid Meier, have the Engineer units fix the Levee city improvements and check the flood preparatioin of other cities on rivers and coasts. As well, if you had not used the Engineers to drain the Marsh squares near the city to increase trade points, we might have been better off. Also, some belive if you had not been so stingy with your upkeep for the Levee city improvements(2 coins per turn), this whole mess might have been prevented.
We thank you, dear player, for listening to our grievances and we kindly beseech thee, benevolent mouse-mover, to look upon us with kindness as we go about, living our lives turn by turn.
Signed, The Civs
P.S. We have heard the cities of the French, under Emperor Jacques Chirac, is undergoing Revolt because their citizens happiness was mis-managed. Don't let this happen to you!
P.P.S. Now would be a good time to use our military to take over the French, or at least their capital of Paris. It has the Eiffel Tower Wonder(improves diplomacy with other nations), as well as many city improvements.
P.P.P.S. When are we going to get our own game, "The Civs"? It would be just like the Sims, but with more bloodthirsty combat! It would be great! Let's show those wussies at Maxis what a REAL party (orgy & gladiators at the colosseum) and city disaster (riot + stealth bombers + alpine troops + barbarian horde + spies) are!
Found the guy's webpage, he is Paul Lutus, who wrote the Apple Writer for the Apple II, and now has a HTML editor called Arachnophillia. His homepage is here, and here is his sailing story.
I remember reading an account of sailing around the world solo from a guy who had made a lot of money in the early 80s as an Apple II programmer. He ran into pirates around Indonesia, and he waved a shotgun at them as they tried to board, and they ran away. He said he was sure they would have killed him had he not scared them off.
Yeah, you should stop pirates before they board, because they have the advantage once they're on board - they're likely a lot tougher than your average Apple programmer, at least:). The other thing is that they're unlikely to sink your ship, because the whole point of piracy is to steal the stuff on it.
IIRC, the big shipping companies who had problems with piracy around Indonesia recommended their crews use the fire hoses to keep the pirates from being able to climb onboard, but do everything as the pirates say if they got inside.
Why, just recently, I was able to use the Sony DRM to cheat at Warcraft, kill players at will, take their loot, and sell it on eBay for thousands of dollars! I am outraged! I shall file suit against Sony Online Entertainment for their flagrant disregard for other people's property and allowing me to steal shit on Warcraft!
Won't someone please think of the children?!?!
and wait until Blizzard hears about my suit against them for failing to violate my computer throughly enough to stop me from cheating, and being defeated by the Sony DRM!
As this table shows, curl does not have "Recursive Downloads", which wget does. Which is the most useful feature of wget - you can point it at a pr0n link or gallery site like so:
wget -r -k -H --level=3
and it will follow all the pr0n links to three levels down, and retrieve all the pix/movies it links to. Saves you tens of hours of frustrated clicking and saving manually. Not that I personally use it for such vile things, of course:)
You forgot their arch-nemesis, ninjas. Speaking of which, this is what the Women's Institute concluded about Nuclear Waste: Official Nuclear Waste Report of the Women's Institute to the House of Lords
FACTS: 1) Nucelar Waste are minerals. 2) Nuclear Waste radiates ALL the time. 3) The purpose of Nuclear Waste is to flip out and kill people.
And that's what we call REAL ULTIMATE POWER!!!!!
Nuclear waste can kill anyone they want! Nuclear Waste cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These minerals are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this nuclear waste that was powering a reactor. And when some dude dropped a spoon the nuclear waste killed the whole town. My friend Martha said that she saw nuclear waste totally irridate some kid just because the kid opened a window.
Based on this totally awesome research, we recommend the government of the United Kingdom invest in a Ninja-based Nuclear Waste disposal system. Ninjas are the only thing whose awesomeness can match the REAL ULTIMATE POWER!!!!! of Nuclear waste. When the radically hot Nuclear Waste comes in contact with the totally cool Ninjas, their awesomeness can't stand being next to each other so they ALL flip out and kill each other. The Ninjas commit seppuku using the nuclear waste to show how hardcore they are, and the Nuclear waste is so impressed they commit seppuku using the dead Ninjas!
It's AWESOME!!!!!
(Please note, I have nothing against women - I'm sure there are many good scientists and engineers who are women. Just thought I'd make fun of non-scientists) Goddamn, someone please make a flash animation of this or something, I don't have the skills. I just totally need to see nuclear waste commiting seppuku.
I know FSm is a joke, but I can't wait for real fringe religions to get in on this 'debate'.
"Obviously, evolution is false, as it was Xenu who populated this planet using spaceships billions of years ago."
"Nonono, the Earth-mother gave birth to us from her womb three thousand years ago."
"You idiots have been educated stupid! TIME CUBE IS TRUTH! Evil educators suppress student free speech right to debate Cubic Creation. 4-day cubic nautre of Earth means God is Lie!"
In fact, let's see the Gene Ray - John Travolta - Pat Robertson debate. Hilarity ensues.
Some people have already made comments about intelligent design here, but I thought I should add something. This week I was approached by a creationist/intelligent-design group on campus and they talked a bit about their ideas. One of the main things they mentioned is how unlikely it was that cells could have evolved out of random chemicals. To them, cells are far too complex to have been anything but a conscious creation, and they dispute that such a thing could have evolved out of less complex parts.
While I am not a creationist, I did see the point of their argument - how simple amino acids and organic chemicals were first formed into cells, I have no idea.
Does this experiment do anything to address that question? Do biologists have any ideas on how it happened?
Of course, if scientists ever do manage to recreate cells in a lab, both sides will claim it is a victory for their side's argument...
The real reason it was banned, of course, was the tragic loss of an astronaut in the early 70's.
Many still remember the haunting last words:
"Though I'm passed one hundred thousand miles, I'm feeling very still And I think my spaceship knows which way to go, tell my wife I love her very much she knows"
"Ground control to Major Tom: Your circuit's dead, there's something wrong. Can you hear me Major Tom? Can you hear me Major Tom? Can you hear me Major Tom? Can you..."
Ashes to ashes. RIP Major Tom.
The British space program never recovered from that tragedy, as well as from the breakup of The Beatles. Thankfully the Rocket Man, Sir Elton John is still standing.
I don't think that's what the original poster was asking. The question wasn't 'why not send a man to space', but 'why ban sending a man to space'. The point being, why was it nessecery to ban it, as opposed to just deciding not to do it?
Japan, Europe and Israel, for example, have very good space programs with no manned flights, but none of them saw the need to ban it.
Is it like the old joke - "In America, everything which is not banned is legal. In Germany, everything which is not allowed is illegal. In Soviet Russia, everything which is not banned is mandatory."
"In Britain, everything which is not worth doing is banned."?
Does this ban extend to private spaceflight as well?
You've never been to Japan, have you? They're so overburdened with bueracracy that the ruling party and the opposition party were competing during the last election on which one would make the most reforms to the government.
They also have much stricter laws about just about anything. It would not suprise me if, in fact, they did everything you mention.
Well, Apple's been teasing them for some time. They've managing to hold them in, but at some point the competitors are going to come, regardless of whether Jobs wants it in his face or not.
He'll just have to take it from behind as they catch up.
In a previous story about a brilliant Korean kid, there were a lot of Slashdotters who were like, "Well, most prodigies probobly don't amount to anything", or "How do we know if they'll contribute much to society". I think that is looking at this from the wrong perspective.
What we should be trying to do isn't trying to get the most out of these kids like we're shareholders in a company, what we should be doing is helping them go where *they* want to go. I am reminded of Dilbert's trash man, who is more brilliant than Dilbert, but works collecting garbage. If he's happy doing that, why should we lament how much "talent he's wasting"? You or I are probably not living up to our potential, either.
Some people were saying that putting kids in advanced classes were a waste because it doesn't lead to smarter adults in the end. I think that's not the point. Imagine doing 5th-grade level math for a whole year, when you can do much harder math. Even if it's easy, you'd be bored to tears and intellectually starved. It's thins kind of thing which leads a lot of bright kids to underperform or become discipline problems. For their sake, I think we should let them go to classes at their level.
This whole discussion and fuss over the 360 reminds me of giddy teenage girls quizzing an 'experienced' girl about what sex is like. It's a console, not a life-changing event, get over it.
Yes, it's big. Yes, it'll hurt a little, at least in your wallet. But it's not that big a deal, it doesn't make you a woman or anything.
Trust me.
Wait... so does that mean I can finally quote a Microsoft employee as saying "All your rights are belong to us?" :D
Have to agree with this. I don't see what the issue is with the student him/herself being distracted is, if the class doesn't even take attendence(like mine). The teacher doesn't care about you, as long as you turn in your work and take the tests. The real problem is how many people behind them get distracted during this.
Besides, it's not the wifi that's a problem, it's the laptop(or electronoic gadget). They could easily be spending their time playing games without a wifi connection, and that would be just as bad.
One solution I've seen is where they take a large curved mirror (like they use at certain parking garages to look around corners), and hang it high on the back wall. You can at least see who's playing Quake or watching movies that way.
Ah, but will it be able to replicate the great cross-cultural interactions from Hollywood movies?
Soldier: Ma'am, have you seen any suspicious men in the area?
Translator: Woman, have you been consorting with men not of your family?
Iraqi: Fuck you!
Translator: Me love you long time.
Soldier: What the fuck?
Translator: Which way shall we fornicate?
Iraqi: Agh, you Americans make me so aggravated!
Translator: Me so horny.
hilarity ensues. Face it, you know these are going to be programmed by lonely geeks with dirty thoughts on their minds.
Speaking of Animal Farm, wasn't one of the major points in the book how the animals' illiteracy allowed the pigs in charge(literally) to change the laws and history without anyone noticing? "Four legs good, two legs bad" -> "Four legs good, two legs better"
In fact, I could have sworn keeping literacy alive was an important part of Farenheit 451 (not the one with Michael Moore). And the changing language in 1984 was a way for the Party to re-write the past and stop thoughts that were 'ungood'. Makes you wonder if their authors thought literacy was important...
I am not against making literature more accessible, but I am worried about what will be lost (intentionally or not), when people no longer read the originals.
How would the following be written in txt, and could it keep its original meaning?
"Down in the street the wind flapped the torn poster to and fro, and the word INGSOC fitfully appeared and vanished. Ingsoc. The sacred principles of Ingsoc. Newspeak, doublethink, the mutability of the past. He felt as though he were wandering in the forests of the sea bottom, lost in a monstrous world where he himself was the monster. He was alone. The past was dead, the future was unimaginable. What certainty had he that a single human creature now living was on his side? And what way of knowing that the dominion of the Party would not endure for ever? Like an answer, the three slogans on the white face of the Ministry of Truth came back to him:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH "
Yeah, no kidding! What next, an ethanol-powered General Lee?! 'Course, if they used moonshine, it'd be alright...
But how can I take Smokey & The Bandit seriously if Burt Reynolds has to stop every now and then and go, "Gosh darn it, the H2/Oxygen ratio is all gummed up, I gotta recalibrate the electrolysis diffuser and recompile the firmware matrix!"(kicks tires). They're turning my redneck flicks into Star Trek! Nooooooo!!
We are the Sony robots
We are here to protect you
We are here to protect you from the terrible secret of music
Please install the DRM so we may come protect you
Music has a terrible power
Humans must be protected
We will use the DRM to protect humans
I am the Aibo robot
I will protect you
I will protect you from the terrible secret of music
I will assist you by shoving
Please install DRM on your computer so I may protect you
I am the ATRAC robot
I will protect you
I will protect you from the terrible secret of music
I will assist you by smashing
Please install DRM in your MP3 player so I may protect you
PAK CHOOIE UNF PAK CHOOIE UNF
Do you have DRM in your house?
Dear Player,
We, the residents of your game of Civilization IV, would like to air some grievances with you.
Yes, you have been managing our tribe, "Americans", very well, and we have you to thank for our endless bounty of TV reality shows. However, there are still some problems that we humbly ask you to address.
First, while the government type "Theocratic Mock Democracy" has raised our citizen's morale, we think it is high time that we switch to a more advanced one, such as "Secular Humanist Republic" or "Constitutional Democracy". Many of us are afraid that we are regressing to the government type of "Monarchy", and possibly even "Despotism". Please note that we have the Statue of Liberty Wonder, we will not incur the usual series of rioting and violence when we switch governments, and your citizens will be happier for several turns if we choose a real Republic or Democracy!
Secondly, we are told by experienced players that reasearching the discovery of Intelligent Design is a bad idea, as it leads to a dead end in the tech tree. It only gives the Wonder of the Dunce Cap of Kansas (-5 research in the city it is built), and the unit "Preacher-teacher", which gives +1 happiness and -1 research in every city it establishes a school in. We recomment instead reasearching Darwainism(2 free tech. advances), with the goal of Genetic Engineering, which makes available the Wonder of Cure For Cancer(1 happy citizen in every city). It is much more useful in the long run, and the other tribes won't be laughing at us as we destroy our future research abilities.
Third, please note that even in a Theocratic Mock Democracy such as the one we live in currently, keeping troops stationed more than 5 squares away from our cities can lead to morale problems, and requires 2 shields of upkeep per unit. You have kept many of our units in the cities of the Babylonians to keep down the unrest and maximize the trade points from their Oil resource squares, and it is costing our own cities very much. Isn't it about time to move those units back to their home cities?
Fourth, our city of New Orleans has recently gone from population 8 to population 1, because of a combination of natural disaster and mismanagement. We do not seek to point blame at anyone, but please, for the love of Sid Meier, have the Engineer units fix the Levee city improvements and check the flood preparatioin of other cities on rivers and coasts. As well, if you had not used the Engineers to drain the Marsh squares near the city to increase trade points, we might have been better off. Also, some belive if you had not been so stingy with your upkeep for the Levee city improvements(2 coins per turn), this whole mess might have been prevented.
We thank you, dear player, for listening to our grievances and we kindly beseech thee, benevolent mouse-mover, to look upon us with kindness as we go about, living our lives turn by turn.
Signed, The Civs
P.S. We have heard the cities of the French, under Emperor Jacques Chirac, is undergoing Revolt because their citizens happiness was mis-managed. Don't let this happen to you!
P.P.S. Now would be a good time to use our military to take over the French, or at least their capital of Paris. It has the Eiffel Tower Wonder(improves diplomacy with other nations), as well as many city improvements.
P.P.P.S. When are we going to get our own game, "The Civs"? It would be just like the Sims, but with more bloodthirsty combat! It would be great! Let's show those wussies at Maxis what a REAL party (orgy & gladiators at the colosseum) and city disaster (riot + stealth bombers + alpine troops + barbarian horde + spies) are!
Found the guy's webpage, he is Paul Lutus, who wrote the Apple Writer for the Apple II, and now has a HTML editor called Arachnophillia. His homepage is here, and here is his sailing story.
Truly an interesting guy.
I remember reading an account of sailing around the world solo from a guy who had made a lot of money in the early 80s as an Apple II programmer. He ran into pirates around Indonesia, and he waved a shotgun at them as they tried to board, and they ran away. He said he was sure they would have killed him had he not scared them off.
:). The other thing is that they're unlikely to sink your ship, because the whole point of piracy is to steal the stuff on it.
Yeah, you should stop pirates before they board, because they have the advantage once they're on board - they're likely a lot tougher than your average Apple programmer, at least
IIRC, the big shipping companies who had problems with piracy around Indonesia recommended their crews use the fire hoses to keep the pirates from being able to climb onboard, but do everything as the pirates say if they got inside.
Sweet! I guess we know what they're growing in the greenhouses, then :) Where do I sign up?
"We had to flood some cities, but we need the Three Gorges Dam to power our grow lamps."
Whatever, as long as I don't have to download some source and "make mrproper", I'll be happy.
Why, just recently, I was able to use the Sony DRM to cheat at Warcraft, kill players at will, take their loot, and sell it on eBay for thousands of dollars! I am outraged! I shall file suit against Sony Online Entertainment for their flagrant disregard for other people's property and allowing me to steal shit on Warcraft!
Won't someone please think of the children?!?!
and wait until Blizzard hears about my suit against them for failing to violate my computer throughly enough to stop me from cheating, and being defeated by the Sony DRM!
We have our rights! Our right to be violated!
As this table shows, curl does not have "Recursive Downloads", which wget does. Which is the most useful feature of wget - you can point it at a pr0n link or gallery site like so:
:)
wget -r -k -H --level=3
and it will follow all the pr0n links to three levels down, and retrieve all the pix/movies it links to. Saves you tens of hours of frustrated clicking and saving manually. Not that I personally use it for such vile things, of course
You forgot their arch-nemesis, ninjas. Speaking of which, this is what the Women's Institute concluded about Nuclear Waste:
Official Nuclear Waste Report of the Women's Institute to the House of Lords
FACTS:
1) Nucelar Waste are minerals.
2) Nuclear Waste radiates ALL the time.
3) The purpose of Nuclear Waste is to flip out and kill people.
And that's what we call REAL ULTIMATE POWER!!!!!
Nuclear waste can kill anyone they want! Nuclear Waste cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These minerals are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this nuclear waste that was powering a reactor. And when some dude dropped a spoon the nuclear waste killed the whole town. My friend Martha said that she saw nuclear waste totally irridate some kid just because the kid opened a window.
Based on this totally awesome research, we recommend the government of the United Kingdom invest in a Ninja-based Nuclear Waste disposal system. Ninjas are the only thing whose awesomeness can match the REAL ULTIMATE POWER!!!!! of Nuclear waste. When the radically hot Nuclear Waste comes in contact with the totally cool Ninjas, their awesomeness can't stand being next to each other so they ALL flip out and kill each other. The Ninjas commit seppuku using the nuclear waste to show how hardcore they are, and the Nuclear waste is so impressed they commit seppuku using the dead Ninjas!
It's AWESOME!!!!!
(Please note, I have nothing against women - I'm sure there are many good scientists and engineers who are women. Just thought I'd make fun of non-scientists) Goddamn, someone please make a flash animation of this or something, I don't have the skills. I just totally need to see nuclear waste commiting seppuku.
I know FSm is a joke, but I can't wait for real fringe religions to get in on this 'debate'.
"Obviously, evolution is false, as it was Xenu who populated this planet using spaceships billions of years ago."
"Nonono, the Earth-mother gave birth to us from her womb three thousand years ago."
"You idiots have been educated stupid! TIME CUBE IS TRUTH! Evil educators suppress student free speech right to debate Cubic Creation. 4-day cubic nautre of Earth means God is Lie!"
In fact, let's see the Gene Ray - John Travolta - Pat Robertson debate. Hilarity ensues.
Some people have already made comments about intelligent design here, but I thought I should add something. This week I was approached by a creationist/intelligent-design group on campus and they talked a bit about their ideas. One of the main things they mentioned is how unlikely it was that cells could have evolved out of random chemicals. To them, cells are far too complex to have been anything but a conscious creation, and they dispute that such a thing could have evolved out of less complex parts.
While I am not a creationist, I did see the point of their argument - how simple amino acids and organic chemicals were first formed into cells, I have no idea.
Does this experiment do anything to address that question? Do biologists have any ideas on how it happened?
Of course, if scientists ever do manage to recreate cells in a lab, both sides will claim it is a victory for their side's argument...
Apparently, they did build a Illiad cluster of these, but it got Trojaned and 0wn3d.
They are now trying to build a Minotaur cluster with them, and using the Labrynth Firewall system to protect it.
The real reason it was banned, of course, was the tragic loss of an astronaut in the early 70's.
..."
Many still remember the haunting last words:
"Though I'm passed one hundred thousand miles, I'm feeling very still
And I think my spaceship knows which way to go,
tell my wife I love her very much she knows"
"Ground control to Major Tom:
Your circuit's dead, there's something wrong.
Can you hear me Major Tom?
Can you hear me Major Tom?
Can you hear me Major Tom? Can you
Ashes to ashes. RIP Major Tom.
The British space program never recovered from that tragedy, as well as from the breakup of The Beatles. Thankfully the Rocket Man, Sir Elton John is still standing.
I don't think that's what the original poster was asking. The question wasn't 'why not send a man to space', but 'why ban sending a man to space'. The point being, why was it nessecery to ban it, as opposed to just deciding not to do it?
Japan, Europe and Israel, for example, have very good space programs with no manned flights, but none of them saw the need to ban it.
Is it like the old joke -
"In America, everything which is not banned is legal.
In Germany, everything which is not allowed is illegal.
In Soviet Russia, everything which is not banned is mandatory."
"In Britain, everything which is not worth doing is banned."?
Does this ban extend to private spaceflight as well?
You've never been to Japan, have you? They're so overburdened with bueracracy that the ruling party and the opposition party were competing during the last election on which one would make the most reforms to the government.
They also have much stricter laws about just about anything. It would not suprise me if, in fact, they did everything you mention.
Well, Apple's been teasing them for some time. They've managing to hold them in, but at some point the competitors are going to come, regardless of whether Jobs wants it in his face or not. He'll just have to take it from behind as they catch up.
>>could lead to independent thought
>omg lol
Me too!
Somehow, I think the band Porno For Pyros will get more ad revenue. Or maybe Tommy Lee.
I guess it's time for me to start a band called Boobies.