Could not agree with you more...I am in a stable company now, but before went through many of these types of cos. that just did not get it, all in the name of saving a few pennies, instead of getting the proper resources...in the end they lost everything, even with such great potential they had...!
After reading the few posts above till this one, I had a sad realization, that I live in a world where security design has no place in the market, only who you know and who you blow... I guess I need to hang up my programming skills, and dust off my lipstick case if I ever want to get any real contracts!!!
I guess the days of Bill Gates swooping in at the right time and place are gone for good!
This might be just a ploy to bluff the owners or writers of the doomsday botnet, to try and reconfigure their servers, and give the people setting up this ploy the ability to rescan the systems they think might be the ping servers, to then compare with the original images they have, and be able to not only confirm which are the payload servers, but also how they might get modified...sort of a bluff technique if you will to indirectly confirm what you might be thinking.
Not everyone is an animal lover, and not everyone has clear understanding how animals learn vs. how humans learn....I for one am glad to see a more prominent attempt at interspecies relations... such that you can form such a strong bond with an animal to not only niclude you in its pack/group/herd whatever, but that they would try to understand your implications through body language and speech as a form of communication with them, even though they would not really understand it to begin with.
Animals are intelligent, even though many of us humans tend to think because we are the smartest, we should survive MORE.... (ie if there is a house on fire , would you save an animal or a human first....and why?) I tend to think we humans need to be treated as we treat animals before we see the light...but unless we were to get more intelligent then us...galactic insectoid overlords anytime soon...we will never learn this lesson....although the movie V from the 80s had a sort of similar message
Actually I think you are quite right...sorry for thinking they meant what they said about not NEEDING them, and only really meant not HAVING any readily available.
Thank you for that defense... : ) I enjoy WoW, the only game I have played for the last 3 years because... I dont care about any of the others, as I got too much to do, but I can kick back, play a bit of WoW advance my char. and still enjoy myself with all the new stuff that keeps popping up!
> yet they still suck though Yes, which is why I cited WoW only, as anything else....just sucks. And the trend is getting watered down, which reflects in the massive redesign and tweaking of the WoW game itself...they know the end is coming, but are keeping steady by its constant new patches.
2 more expansions before they let it go though... thats 12 million * 50$ per expansion, plus all those months * users * 15$ per month....I don't think they will be going broke anytime soon!!!
I would love to see more of these technologies coming out in the consumer sector, where it can be used right now instead of 20 years from now....really!
Would they be able to use up the dismantled nuclear materials to make another reactor with without having to pay for mining of the stuff...(plutonium, uranium, etc..), or is the materials wasted in the making of the warhead to begin with?
Depending where you live, (Me in Canada)...you at least need the certificate to open the doors, just doing it in your basement does not cut it anymore. If we lived in the old world based on skill and merit, maybe but, the new world is all about what's on paper. Although a certificate does not mean much, it can portray you at least respect you need some sort of formal training and this will let them believe that you might also respect their company's structure.
Hey, i think we can all agree that WoW seems to have the best of all the worlds. 12 million can't be wrong....and on top of that there is still 2 expansions left before they defunct the game. Although i am sure they will keep servers rolling, or offer server solutions to those who want to host their own gaming server. I am not talking the hacked kind either...!
This is where the government has to be brought into court and held accountable, unfortunately this type of case, is one of those pro-bono, because no real cash will be exchanged, but a precedent will be set, if the government is made to be held accountable...and must redesign a faulty system. why not just add a digit at the end, all of a sudden you have now ended the whole problem and can add that many more numbers to the deck.
A good thing he didn't use WoW to do his research, he would have had nothing to research, ganking happens all the time, and the only way to piss someone off.....is getting a bigger group then they got (horde vs. alliance). I think he should have chosen a different game...although I guess this might just be an excuse to play a game, and get a university to pay you to play it, while being 50 years old with nothing to do O_O
Hey didnt I just see you post under you other name(s). So this is how you end up getting great karma, you cheat to get it... wonder what CmdrTaco would say about someone having multiple accounts on slashdot.
You again, no better things to say other then blablabla? Wow, if I had this much time on my hands, I could write up that javascript and auto click on all my ads!
First off, sure, we could all log on and post multiple times to the same post, to try and bring down someone's karma, and I guess that's your prerogative, I imagine you must really feel something to log on 3 times to post to my post.
That said, I will continue... > its generally a good idea not to use things like 'M$' that stopped being funny and/or witty >probably 4 to 5 years before you graduated high school.
Yeah it probably isnt funny or witty, luckily I wasnt going for that, I was trying to save time as I am tired of writing emails to she dsome light on the ill advised. BTW haven't been in high scholl for about 20 years now.
>I do know what VS stands for, DO YOU? There are at least 3 products produced by Microsoft that >users have refered to as VS, not counting Visual Studio Yep, I do, and all other associated producst too, as I mentioned I clearly use it in my work environment.
>After you've actually had a job for more than a week out college you'll learn that you do in >general follow what the big fish does, that is in fact the way it works in every industry. Sorry >your teachers all told you that you were unique and special. You aren't.
Been programming for about 12 years now, son, and hate to tell you, I have been there when it was assembler & C, and I have used all the new toys, like VS, PHP, Ruby on rails, and my fav. Perl.
>I understand that you think you were clever in your post and that you think this clearly shows >your intelligence level. It doesn't, it shows your immaturity and lack of experience in the work >force. It shows you haven't been playing the game all that long. Talking about intelligence, seems odd you post under one name first, then answer back under a different name, is it legal to have multiple accounts on/. is this how you and your friends boost your karma and ranking on this site. Hmmmm.... sounds like something someone that immature might do...
>The one thing I can't stand more than the bullshit I have to deal with from MS on a regular basis >is the bullshit from people like yourself who bash because its trendy, not because you actually >know what the fuck you are talking about.
On the contrary, I do have a place in my heart for alot of M$ methodology, without them , us programmers would have A) no real semblance of naming conventions B) no real standard for creating components C) no good base for creating/ instantiating classes D) no strong basis for commenting (VSS has great comment practice for source code control) E) we would all be trying to push our own version of standards in a world where sharing information (even as simple as XML) might have taken many more years before being where we are today.
On the plus side, M$ has been around for many years, and have been able to amass such an arsenal of tricks they decided to code a language environment around it (framework and CLR and API wrapping). They then proceeded to try to force every one to go and change their code to the newer code, by saying that vb6 will no longer be supported. SO everyone that jumped on that band wagon, got themselves another 2 years of changing code into vb.net code to remain up to date.
Having been on many different contracts for WMSs or CRMs which have a heavy backend when you try to add an AI into it to think for you, you tend to stumble into road blocks along the way, that you see even though.NET is great and cool for alot of things, will not do in a heavy transactional real-time environment, let alone a windows environment.
Putting a machine that keeps a patient alive and making his heart beat, would never be put on a windows OS...do you not agree?
Now I place down the gaunglet, and say, you want to talk code, let's say I want to create a handle on a link that I might place inside here link www.google.ca...and create all the javascript behind it to enable me to send y
how about a friend of yours that you trusted that was of chinese nationality going to the same universe, and wanting to help on this cool new contract with the gov....? Sometimes, we think in our "regular" patterns, which may not be the same proper patterns to have in a different milieux.
You know, when the military needs to spend money, on useless stuff just to keep a certain amount "fixed" come next budget time , they should maybe invest more on getting real engineers that work only for them, and not outsource or contract out these types of military operations. Do the blueprints belong to the US gov. ? If so, then the work done belongs to them,and the employees for the duration of the contract should also.
I keep thinking of that movie Iron Man, where Tony Stark is a corporate tycoon making all sorts of deals with the military and contracts out all the work. If the company in question or contractors in question became partial employees, they would not have these problems as the projects could be supervised by proper military personnel. Having said that, had the person in charge had training with the military, it would have been common sense for him to NOT share sensitive data...but because he had military background, he had no forethought for such things.
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Could not agree with you more...I am in a stable company now, but before went through many of these types of cos. that just did not get it, all in the name of saving a few pennies, instead of getting the proper resources...in the end they lost everything, even with such great potential they had...!
After reading the few posts above till this one, I had a sad realization, that I live in a world where security design has no place in the market, only who you know and who you blow...
I guess I need to hang up my programming skills, and dust off my lipstick case if I ever want to
get any real contracts!!!
I guess the days of Bill Gates swooping in at the right time and place are gone for good!
LMAO!
/raises hand
I agree
This might be just a ploy to bluff the owners or writers of the doomsday botnet, to try and reconfigure their servers,
and give the people setting up this ploy the ability to rescan the systems they think might be the ping servers, to then compare with
the original images they have, and be able to not only confirm which are the payload servers, but also how they might get modified...sort of a bluff technique if you will to indirectly confirm what you might be thinking.
I think Predator had that same space suit , no?
Not everyone is an animal lover, and not everyone has clear understanding how animals learn vs. how humans learn....I for one am glad to see a more prominent attempt at interspecies relations...
such that you can form such a strong bond with an animal to not only niclude you in its pack/group/herd whatever, but that they would try to understand your implications through body language and speech as a form of communication with them, even though they would not really understand it to begin with.
Animals are intelligent, even though many of us humans tend to think because we are the smartest, we should survive MORE.... (ie if there is a house on fire , would you save an animal or a human first....and why?) ...galactic insectoid overlords anytime soon...we will never learn this lesson....although the movie V from the 80s had a sort of similar message
I tend to think we humans need to be treated as we treat animals before we see the light...but unless we were to get more intelligent then us
You talk that silly talk about your butt and some chains, did not need that visual.... O_O
Some places actually hire from within or promote, maybe there is not enough competence for both programming AND management...or so they feel?
My sister has a farm and she sells Korn shells by the road
Actually I think you are quite right...sorry for thinking they meant what they said about not NEEDING them, and only really meant not HAVING any readily available.
Thank you for that defense... : )
I enjoy WoW, the only game I have played for the last 3 years because...
I dont care about any of the others, as I got too much to do, but I can kick back, play a bit of WoW
advance my char. and still enjoy myself with all the new stuff that keeps popping up!
> yet they still suck though
Yes, which is why I cited WoW only, as anything else....just sucks.
And the trend is getting watered down, which reflects in the massive redesign and tweaking of the WoW game itself...they know the end is coming, but are keeping steady by its constant new patches.
2 more expansions before they let it go though... thats 12 million * 50$ per expansion, plus all those months * users * 15$ per month....I don't think they will be going broke anytime soon!!!
And so the world goes round and round as the money keeps making it that way, n'est ce pas?
I would love to see more of these technologies coming out in the consumer sector, where it can be used right now instead of 20 years from now....really!
Would they be able to use up the dismantled nuclear materials to make another reactor with without having to pay for mining of the stuff...(plutonium, uranium, etc..), or is the materials wasted in the making of the warhead to begin with?
Depending where you live, (Me in Canada)...you at least need the certificate to open the doors, just doing it in your basement does not cut it anymore. If we lived in the old world based on skill and merit, maybe but, the new world is all about what's on paper.
Although a certificate does not mean much, it can portray you at least respect you need some sort of formal training and
this will let them believe that you might also respect their company's structure.
Hey, i think we can all agree that WoW seems to have the best of all the worlds.
12 million can't be wrong....and on top of that there is still 2 expansions left before they defunct the game.
Although i am sure they will keep servers rolling, or offer server solutions to those who want to host their own gaming server.
I am not talking the hacked kind either...!
RIAA are definitely retards, that's what I got out of that comment : )
This is where the government has to be brought into court and held accountable, unfortunately this type of case, is one of those pro-bono, because no real cash will be exchanged, but a
precedent will be set, if the government is made to be held accountable...and must redesign a faulty system. why not just add a digit at the end, all of a sudden you have now ended the whole problem and can add that many more numbers to the deck.
A good thing he didn't use WoW to do his research, he would have had nothing to research, ganking happens all the time, and the only way to piss someone off.....is getting a bigger group then they got (horde vs. alliance).
I think he should have chosen a different game...although I guess this might just be an excuse to play a game, and get a university to pay you to play it, while being 50 years old with nothing to do O_O
Hey didnt I just see you post under you other name(s).
So this is how you end up getting great karma, you cheat to get it...
wonder what CmdrTaco would say about someone having multiple accounts on slashdot.
I guess nothing, ....jokes on me.... : )
You again, no better things to say other then blablabla?
Wow, if I had this much time on my hands, I could write up that javascript
and auto click on all my ads!
First off, sure, we could all log on and post multiple times to the same post, to try and bring down someone's karma, and I guess that's your prerogative, I imagine you must really feel something to log on 3 times to post to my post.
That said, I will continue...
> its generally a good idea not to use things like 'M$' that stopped being funny and/or witty >probably 4 to 5 years before you graduated high school.
Yeah it probably isnt funny or witty, luckily I wasnt going for that, I was trying to save time as I am tired of writing emails to she dsome light on the ill advised. BTW haven't been in high scholl for about 20 years now.
>I do know what VS stands for, DO YOU? There are at least 3 products produced by Microsoft that >users have refered to as VS, not counting Visual Studio
Yep, I do, and all other associated producst too, as I mentioned I clearly use it in my work environment.
>After you've actually had a job for more than a week out college you'll learn that you do in >general follow what the big fish does, that is in fact the way it works in every industry. Sorry >your teachers all told you that you were unique and special. You aren't.
Been programming for about 12 years now, son, and hate to tell you, I have been there when it was
assembler & C, and I have used all the new toys, like VS, PHP, Ruby on rails, and my fav.
Perl.
>I understand that you think you were clever in your post and that you think this clearly shows >your intelligence level. It doesn't, it shows your immaturity and lack of experience in the work >force. It shows you haven't been playing the game all that long. /. is this how you and your friends
Talking about intelligence, seems odd you post under one name first, then answer back under a different name, is it legal to have multiple accounts on
boost your karma and ranking on this site. Hmmmm.... sounds like something someone that immature might do...
>The one thing I can't stand more than the bullshit I have to deal with from MS on a regular basis >is the bullshit from people like yourself who bash because its trendy, not because you actually >know what the fuck you are talking about.
On the contrary, I do have a place in my heart for alot of M$ methodology, without them , us programmers would have
A) no real semblance of naming conventions
B) no real standard for creating components
C) no good base for creating/ instantiating classes
D) no strong basis for commenting (VSS has great comment practice for source code control)
E) we would all be trying to push our own version of standards in a world where
sharing information (even as simple as XML) might have taken many more years before being where we are today.
On the plus side, M$ has been around for many years, and have been able to amass such an arsenal of
tricks they decided to code a language environment around it (framework and CLR and API wrapping).
They then proceeded to try to force every one to go and change their code to the newer code, by saying that vb6 will no longer be supported. SO everyone that jumped on that band wagon, got themselves another 2 years of changing code into vb.net code to remain up to date.
Having been on many different contracts for WMSs or CRMs which have a heavy backend when you try to add an AI into it to think for you, you tend to stumble into road blocks along the way, that you see .NET is great and cool for alot of things, will not do in a heavy transactional real-time environment, let alone a windows environment.
even though
Putting a machine that keeps a patient alive and making his heart beat, would never be put on a windows OS...do you not agree?
Now I place down the gaunglet, and say, you want to talk code, let's say I want to create a handle
on a link that I might place inside here link www.google.ca...and create all the javascript behind it to enable me to send y
how about a friend of yours that you trusted that was of chinese nationality going to the same universe, and wanting to help on this cool new contract with the gov. ...? Sometimes, we think in our "regular" patterns, which may not be the same proper patterns to have in a different milieux.
You know, when the military needs to spend money, on useless stuff just to keep a certain amount "fixed" come next budget time
, they should maybe invest more on getting real engineers that work only for them, and not outsource or contract out these types of military operations. Do the blueprints belong to the US gov. ? If so, then the work done belongs to them,and the employees for the duration of the contract should also.
I keep thinking of that movie Iron Man, where Tony Stark is a corporate tycoon making all sorts of deals with the military
and contracts out all the work. If the company in question or contractors in question became partial employees,
they would not have these problems as the projects could be supervised by proper military personnel.
Having said that, had the person in charge had training with the military, it would have been common sense for him to NOT share sensitive data...but because he had military background, he had no forethought for such things.