The proof is wrong. If you do all red, all blue, you have a 50-50 shot, right? Try this. Put one red marble in one jar, and all the other marbles in the other. Then you have a 50% chance of picking the jar with the one red marble, and a 50% chance of the other jar. The other jar has a 49/99 chance of being red. As you can see, this is significantly better than 50-50 (close to 75-25).
Yes, Star Trek says it's dangerous, therefore it MUST be a bad idea to investigate it...
And anyway, as a Trekkie, I can tell you that you're completely wrong; they use "anti-matter" drives. According to Star Trek, anti-matter is just as "bad" as gasoline: if something bad happens they both blow up.
And as an added bonus, if you take the time to document, then even if no one else ever downloads it, it will be a lot easier for *you* to work on it in the future
Look, as much as I hate it, he's right. I have personal experience in this. I took over running the website for a non-profit organization that shared a building with another non-profit (all of this pro-bono as you might imagine). I switched their entire web host and thus their e-mail servers. The other organization's e-mail went down at the same time; no matter how many of the "techies" explained that the two systems weren't connected at all, the people in charge (who can't figure out how to upload their speeches to the website) explained repeatedly that "you don't know how these things interconnect."
It's sad, it pathetic, but it's true. Of course, at the end of the day, I nailed the problem on Outlook (e-mail worked from a Thunderbird install, but not Outlook), and eventually after changing the settings enough times it worked from Outlook. If you doubt any of this story, e-mail me privately, I'll be glad to give more information. I think it's very important for the OSS community to understand this: any time there's a change anywhere in a computer system, even something totally unrelated, and something somewhere else breaks, the most recent change is blamed.
Well, due to the nature of openness, it doesn't really matter if they all run the same OS, as long as they all speak the same language. Now, having all devices being POSIX compatible is something I really like, but it wouldn't really bother me if my car ran BSD instead of Ubuntu.
Because everyone knows a real Klingon reads his e-mail messages raw. And a spam filter? Please. Anyone foolish enough to send a Klingon spam deserves what's coming his way
Well, there's a good reason not to automatically set it in this case. Maybe you don't want your binaries fine-tuned for your CPU type. For example, which I was in college, I set up a system for my room mate. It was older, and so I didn't really want to compile everything on it. Instead, I had my Gentoo computer set a CPU type slightly less than it actually was, recompiled everything, and then had his system just download the packages from me.
Anyway, Gentoo isn't the reason Windows users don't switch. I would *never* recommend a new user use Gentoo, and even though I've been using Linux for longer than every other OS combined at this point, once I started working I switched away from Gentoo since I just didn't have the time. (Yes, as easy as Gentoo is once set up, it's still not as easy as Ubuntu. Sorry guys.)
As I said, I hate M$. But bashing them for trying to make money is ridiculous; they are a corporation. And just because corporation makes money doesn't necessarily mean we're suffering.
I think you might be mistaking irony for despair. Whatever Microsoft does Microsoft does for Microsoft; and that means what will make them money. Why would they have gone to the bother of making a (very good, i hear) new image file format... for our benefit? I don't think so....
This can only end badly.
Look, I dislike Microsoft just as much as anyone else, but that comment is just ill informed. Just because M$ might stand to make money off a deal does not mean it will "end badly." In the vast majority of industries, consumers gain when companies do something just to make money. Just because M$ in the past has found ones of making money that have been harmful to us doesn't mean it will be the case this time.
I doubt that a valid argument exists that would convince management that this is a good idea.
So if a valid argument won't work, let's try an invalid one:
Recent trends in economic projection clearly show that the best kept secret in the industry in diversification in technological resources. It is well documented that the most enterprise-ready solution to this is a utilization of multiple operating system platforms to increase worker productivity.
I know this thread is a joke, but the fact is, once Windows "isn't there by default" it's no longer an easy OS. Users will have to find all the correct drivers, etc. Even if this machine could handle Windows, I think most users would find sticking with the default much easier.
So I was mistaken about Darwin, but my point remains: Max OS X is built around BSD (by your own admission, simply the "BSD userland" instead of the kernel). I'm simply pointing out the fact that Apple is also just "copying someone else." It's not like Apple is the master copy of all things computer and Linux and Friends are simply playing catch-up.
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The proof is wrong. If you do all red, all blue, you have a 50-50 shot, right? Try this. Put one red marble in one jar, and all the other marbles in the other. Then you have a 50% chance of picking the jar with the one red marble, and a 50% chance of the other jar. The other jar has a 49/99 chance of being red. As you can see, this is significantly better than 50-50 (close to 75-25).
Yes, Star Trek says it's dangerous, therefore it MUST be a bad idea to investigate it...
And anyway, as a Trekkie, I can tell you that you're completely wrong; they use "anti-matter" drives. According to Star Trek, anti-matter is just as "bad" as gasoline: if something bad happens they both blow up.
Ahh... but do you save in ASCII, ANSI, UTF-8, UTF-16 or- the greatest character encoding of all- EBCDIC?
And as an added bonus, if you take the time to document, then even if no one else ever downloads it, it will be a lot easier for *you* to work on it in the future
Look, as much as I hate it, he's right. I have personal experience in this. I took over running the website for a non-profit organization that shared a building with another non-profit (all of this pro-bono as you might imagine). I switched their entire web host and thus their e-mail servers. The other organization's e-mail went down at the same time; no matter how many of the "techies" explained that the two systems weren't connected at all, the people in charge (who can't figure out how to upload their speeches to the website) explained repeatedly that "you don't know how these things interconnect."
It's sad, it pathetic, but it's true. Of course, at the end of the day, I nailed the problem on Outlook (e-mail worked from a Thunderbird install, but not Outlook), and eventually after changing the settings enough times it worked from Outlook. If you doubt any of this story, e-mail me privately, I'll be glad to give more information. I think it's very important for the OSS community to understand this: any time there's a change anywhere in a computer system, even something totally unrelated, and something somewhere else breaks, the most recent change is blamed.
Well, due to the nature of openness, it doesn't really matter if they all run the same OS, as long as they all speak the same language. Now, having all devices being POSIX compatible is something I really like, but it wouldn't really bother me if my car ran BSD instead of Ubuntu.
Because everyone knows a real Klingon reads his e-mail messages raw. And a spam filter? Please. Anyone foolish enough to send a Klingon spam deserves what's coming his way
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Well, there's a good reason not to automatically set it in this case. Maybe you don't want your binaries fine-tuned for your CPU type. For example, which I was in college, I set up a system for my room mate. It was older, and so I didn't really want to compile everything on it. Instead, I had my Gentoo computer set a CPU type slightly less than it actually was, recompiled everything, and then had his system just download the packages from me.
Anyway, Gentoo isn't the reason Windows users don't switch. I would *never* recommend a new user use Gentoo, and even though I've been using Linux for longer than every other OS combined at this point, once I started working I switched away from Gentoo since I just didn't have the time. (Yes, as easy as Gentoo is once set up, it's still not as easy as Ubuntu. Sorry guys.)
Whadya mean??? Who doesn't need a remote that runs linux?
I definitely did that in school
Because the fastest way to learn about something is to break it. Why do you think physicists spend all that time and money on particle accelerators?
For a second on reading that, I saw "psychologists" instead of "physicists." Gave a very different meaning...
I'm as surprised as you are... Though software patents don't exist in Europe so I suppose it's kinda useless for everyone except Americans?
Not really useless; if a European wants to sell software in the US, this would be very valuable.
The screws holding Microsoft's moral compass together may be loose but to lose your comments here at
I think he meant as in "let loose". Like as in "release". Like... eh, whatever
As I said, I hate M$. But bashing them for trying to make money is ridiculous; they are a corporation. And just because corporation makes money doesn't necessarily mean we're suffering.
But M$ still sucks.
This can only end badly.
Look, I dislike Microsoft just as much as anyone else, but that comment is just ill informed. Just because M$ might stand to make money off a deal does not mean it will "end badly." In the vast majority of industries, consumers gain when companies do something just to make money. Just because M$ in the past has found ones of making money that have been harmful to us doesn't mean it will be the case this time.
Doesn't mean I wouldn't do it if I had the option.
welcome our new Blu-Ray Japanese porn overlords
So if a valid argument won't work, let's try an invalid one:
Recent trends in economic projection clearly show that the best kept secret in the industry in diversification in technological resources. It is well documented that the most enterprise-ready solution to this is a utilization of multiple operating system platforms to increase worker productivity.
There, see if that works on them ;)
I think GP means that if you call a 25 cent piece a quarter, call a 50 cent piece a half.
I know this thread is a joke, but the fact is, once Windows "isn't there by default" it's no longer an easy OS. Users will have to find all the correct drivers, etc. Even if this machine could handle Windows, I think most users would find sticking with the default much easier.
So I was mistaken about Darwin, but my point remains: Max OS X is built around BSD (by your own admission, simply the "BSD userland" instead of the kernel). I'm simply pointing out the fact that Apple is also just "copying someone else." It's not like Apple is the master copy of all things computer and Linux and Friends are simply playing catch-up.
Then they would lose the ability to be cross-platform. Linux system calls don't work on FreeBSD
And that makes it ok?
That said, I think this is a silly thing to be upset about.
So does that have any bearing on BSD, seeing Darwin is just a fork on the OpenBSD kernel?