I go google a bit, because I want to cut down on the services I start, (I was not on net at time, and didn't want ftp or anything, since it was a fairly old laptop) I wanted nearly all things off.
smtp, no, httpd, no, scp, no, ssh, no, ftp, no you get the point.
So I go into #linux, and I get lots of cursory glances. "What distribution you use" etc etc, immediately I feel downhearted. A few proffer some scripts they use.. . I remember looking at some files, but the human readability was dire, and I couldn't see myself editing these files, I mean, I edit crontab and even edited from memory the fstab to get my usb stick working a coupla times, but it is all a bit much.
So yes, shutting down services, either make a windows like 'service' registry, and I can see them all, order by 'started' or make it a bit better.
Whenever I say this, someone comes along as says it is easy, and why didn't I do XYZ, or 'how silly my distro doesn't come with superXYZ' (the last comment was about rename).
The fact is it didn't or I didn't know, and my efforts I was prepared to make (which was a few hours) did not pay off.
So... obviously I didn't spend long enough learning, or it takes too long to learn. How long is a piece of string.
Seriously, a nice, compartmentalised, light weight, organised linux will come when some people accept some change.
I would like to see etc bin sbin lib blah foo moo schmoo gone, and have an easier to understand, less distributed file system. Fixing the ability to remove and add components of the 'OS' i.e. key apps and user apps, will help cut bloat, and allow people to choose more software for trial basis, and cut it out again.
Every time I say this I get linux udernerds saying: package management rocks, and then I read articles that say there is proof that it is hard / goes belly up. I can only draw on my own expeirences of getting a few simple apps installed at various times.
Right now someone shoudl blow the whistle on 'what is a distro' and show how much each distro uses of each other, and what is 'distro' and what are packages, etc. SuSe for instance is a set of config scripts (related to yast), a package management 'dictionary', YaSt, and some icons, maybe more. Who knows.
If someone wants to connect to the network, they reciprocate an intention to accept connections back.
If someone runs a web server to host a web page, does it mean if you access that webpage, you are breaking the law?
Surely the configuration of a wireless device can be deemed an explicit permission, because network security uses words like 'default allow, default deny', and if the computer which ran the stack, which accessed the network, which read the 'hello your welcome sign' allowed this to happen, and people in the court think it shouldn't, then the person who wrote the EVIL TROJ4N L33t network drivers should be to blame, or the RFC guys.
So, lets just see how we can implicate M$ and SCO and move onto finding a way to convince 1up.com to remove their fucking > music off their page. ffffffbah.
I can show you a video where his appreciation for implants is very distracting! "Hi Bill, thanks for joining us, say hi to Pamela!"
Laugh. I guess if we did have implants, Schizophrenics would have to buy multiple licenes or keep having to reactivate their "Microsoft Short Term Memory" and "Microsoft Faces I Know" software.
Windows: "Hey, you're not Frank!" Frank (as Alice): "I am not feeling myself today!"
Anyone can get pretty far, because everyone is allowed the right to give their argument, and if you have enough money you could appeal any ridiculous plight.
So I do not think it is suprising. I just hope he realises that I have international trademarks on the word STEAL so I want 83.33% of all his earnings. (think about it).
I just hope some TEA merchant doesn't try and take a piece of my well thought out pie.
Yeah, well the reason I was asking is because my clients always ask where their few hundred dollars go in the advertising, of course, we keep records, but the IP's don't really make a big pattern, plus it was a curiosity question.
The answer was actually: We are not telling you, although I did talk with one google adsense engineer about my ideas for a script that you can employ that woudl feed session info back to google, so google and see how the user behaves when it enters your website, other kinds of things, of course, they have clever ideas too, it just interested me, and google are a very open company when you talk to the right people.
Yes, everyone knows a few hundred dollars isn't a large google splurge, I didn't say it was.
What utter bollocks they spout, they say things in the most abstract broad strokes of wow, you can only imagine what it will be like, without longhorn, games will not advance, etc,etc, oh piss off.
Who the hell has heard of that site anyway? How can you tell the difference between a 'blog' style site for the sake of a site, and an independant, community focussed site nowwadays?
The ability to put any message anywhere is quite scarey, and Microsoft are doing a good job with all their blogs, which no doubt they will patent and say they invented.
Microsoft are no so much embracing open source, but trying to mimick the actions of an open and adoptive community, those that even fostered such wordfucks like blogging.
So Microsoft are going to great lengths to immitate the spirit of the open and share community, but they just suck.
You know, it wouldn't be that hard for Microsoft to win back a lot of people. Oh yeah it would, I forgot, you can't buy it back, you have to make a change to your core values.
You know, the whole penny arcade 'gabe does xbox' was even more astounding on slashdot.
I cannot believe slashdotters bought into xbox. Anyway, I guess its because the only console I ever had was a CD32;-)
But they didn't seem to want to rock the boat of their solution.
I once asked them, if I click 5 times on an ad, does that get charged 5 times? They said they couldn't say. All they have to do is stop charging someone for the same IP in the same day lets say.
Sure, they would loose 15-20% (guesstimate) of clicks right? But wouldn't the service be better value therefore people would spend more?
The latter - 12 Eps too much? As a self confessed non-trek* (actuall non star* - neither Trek or Wars!) Although I occassionaly watch them, I would defend the last series of Seinfeld. Although I admit another series wouldn't have hacked it.
"When I hear someone called a celebrity, I think of someone who gets special treatment, never waits in line, and has had sex with Paris Hilton."
Definately get this game, I played it on my dx2, back in the day when it was across, and the graphics were sparse, I look at online time records today, and I think, I am sure I beat that once.
That game is good because of control, I always put forward that games are good if you can have lots of control. Think about it. Simulcrum (I think) was a neat game on amiga, you could morph betwee different shapes, and fly etc... silly putty.. that was fun... *thinks* hunter (amiga, first 3d 3rd person game I played? lots of vehicles).
Robocop 3 was the best gaming/movie franchise, the graphics were unbelievable, and it had atmosphere.
If you want to try a game like elastomania, goto miniclip.com and look for Trials game, that version is in Java, great graphics. Uses a bitmap collision map, so you can actually make your own levels with the demo, but, you know, keep it quiet.
When we were kids, Double Dragon was all had, and there was nothing better, so we were engrossed in playing that really lame game.
That brings back little nostaligia, as I never really liked it. At the arcade it was always someone else who wanted a 2 player game.
Wonder boy in monster land, now I clocked that with 885,000 odd score, possibly the world record, and on 1 ten pence piece I might add. Yes, I could kill any boss within a few second (down down, jump slap attack - repeat).
Going back to that, I had nostalgia, but I also enjoyed playing it! I played it a good 20 minutes before I got killed, and then bored.
Adventure games - I would probably replay DOTT and S&M and also Loom and those others, heck, Another World and Flashback. But I probably wouldn't be arsed to finish them cos of time.
Kingpin - only 5 years old game, I see no foults in playing this again multiplayer (if there are active servers)
Back to old skool, spin dizzy, I can play then game a lot, and also action biker. Paperboy, despite consuming my life between 4 and 7, I don't think I could ever be as good as I used to be... it wouldn't hold my attention today.
Modern games are both dumbed down, and more interactive. maybe someone could remake paper boy as distroboy, and you ride a nice 3d bike up the same view, throwing distro cd's into windows (hahah WINDOWS!) houses.
The map of the city could be fed from xml pulled from google maps for the 3d buildings they use, or any shp file of your choice:-) with random fun plugged in.
I like the fact that games far more elegant than those of old are coming to small devices faster. It is easier and quicker to write a game, you can write arkenoid in 2 hours using flash and action script, because you are now only writing pure game code, nothing else (you are not writing file save code, or graphics code).
I do get bored of 3d gaming. Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, I thought it would cure me, but I was bored after 1 hour... I couldn't do it any more.
I like that flash game where you balance on a rope though.
"researchers found that our learning process was similar to other biological organisms: we're not learning through a series of 0's and 1's"
Wow! Despite the fact that we are non-biological entities, not carbon based at all, we exhibit the same neural based cognitive processes as carbon based, biological, neural based intelligences!
And! We had to invent a binary computing system since 1822 (ok it was not made then) and just now we have realised that our brains are not like... erm... this thing... that people invented...
I think I will have to RTFA to actually decipher if there is any news in this...
ActiveX is the equiv of an Applet, only it doesn't run in a clever sandbox, doesn't support intelligent (and workable, albeit tricky) signed classes.
Yes you can sign activeX controls, but you cannot have a fine grained security profile that gives different zones different privs.
Applets are still very cool, and if anything, I see them being used more and more for high media websites, even at the expense of flash, see lenova's (?) new site for their products.
The European Commission are also using Java in environments that take so much stress there is no other option, and because of its reliability and team oriented nature (the standards in development an close ties to many tools) it has gone 100% Java.
The biggest hurdle for many people who taught themselves languages like perl, and vb, is they learned in a linear, copy paste way of doing things.
The languages support linear learning. Java does not really.
You need to know what an object is, a primitive, object concepts, method calling, scope and a heap of other things (not even counting the need to know the standard libraries) all at once to really be productive.
I learned VB on the first day of the job, when I said I could do it, and got the job. (oh so many painful years ago....:-)
SO they can still get the pr0n. Be careful son, you might go...
I must say, without being able to see the website in question, it can be tough trusting sites, and the usability on the web, with image navigation etc, it hard enough for a seeing/hearing person.
Not even his posted comment, but to him, he is objectionable:
Next stop, annoying Flash intros.
Right... the processor that will run the JVM, if not a specific Java chip, then the DVD will certainly have a chip capable of running an embedded flash player.
Now. I have to shout sorry:
FLASH IS A DISPLAY / VECTOR ANIMATION TECHNOLOGY.
1) It has nothing to do with Java - THIS news is AWESOME and I look forward to being able to write my own programs to take screen caps, and write a whimsical comment while the player is playing, and email it to a friend. Or keep a log of my movies and ratings as I watch them, or write a book mark sharing XML format, and wire it to the remote, so you can bookmark film locations, and plug your own audio commentary on them. (think about wedding videos / holiday video, and you will see why this is nice - but also for mainstream stuff)
2) So, Java can do games and animation, and even there are Java flash players, and SVG players, and MPEG4 players. Just because the technology is there, doesn't mean annoying 'Flash' (unrelated) intros.
3) *ahem*
What is more annoying is the abundance of unskipable content on DVD's, and this has nothing to do with either of the unrelated technologies that you have mentioned.
If this can be screwed off, I would be happier, I still haven't had time to look for a firmware hack for my DVD player.
XBZMSTZ - there I am not a fucking script. Tee guy who decided they needed a script for every login as an asshole. Have it for signups, have it for AC posts. NOT FOR EVERY FUCKING LOGIN. Asshole. Even worse, he is just stupid. Illogical. Bad designer.
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show me a linux distro aimed at home users
I shouldn't have to say anything else on that argument. You even quoted it in your subject.
Gentoo? Fedora? Try Ubuntu or SuSe (even).
OOI what other 'home' friendly distros are there? I want as few options and choices, max support, and lots of NON DEVELOPMENT non techie things installed, and not cheapo games or a million shells.
Anything I can give as a choice to someone without regretting it later.
I have a cult following, I can't walk down the street in south america!
look Sergio Mendez!
Season 4, its a killer.
Who will change their minds?
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No it just means people don't ask, and companies don't want to be seen as giving the 'reduced version'. People don't understand this, and as far as I am concerned, the whole problem with Microsoft and its abuse was cut down to some fairy arguments, and then those were made to stick.
It does a lot worse things.
Anyway, show me a linux distro aimed at home users whose default install doesn't have mp3/ogg/xmms etc.
Happy microsoft got slammed? Yes. Give a shit about the hole XP N thing? No.
Will it open people eyes? No, because form their perspective nothign has changed, unless you meant the distributors, who work on supply and demand, and will start taking space away from their m^2 floors as and when it will be profitable to do so.
Right now, they don't see it. Now the price of hardware is exacerbating the percentage of cost that goes to an OS, *that* might make a difference.
Slashdot Mirror
Should I tell them or shall I wait until they realise how stupid they Look in those:
2O-OO nerd glasses.
ha.
Yes, tell me about it:
I go google a bit, because I want to cut down on the services I start, (I was not on net at time, and didn't want ftp or anything, since it was a fairly old laptop) I wanted nearly all things off.
smtp, no, httpd, no, scp, no, ssh, no, ftp, no you get the point.
So I go into #linux, and I get lots of cursory glances. "What distribution you use" etc etc, immediately I feel downhearted. A few proffer some scripts they use.. . I remember looking at some files, but the human readability was dire, and I couldn't see myself editing these files, I mean, I edit crontab and even edited from memory the fstab to get my usb stick working a coupla times, but it is all a bit much.
So yes, shutting down services, either make a windows like 'service' registry, and I can see them all, order by 'started' or make it a bit better.
Whenever I say this, someone comes along as says it is easy, and why didn't I do XYZ, or 'how silly my distro doesn't come with superXYZ' (the last comment was about rename).
The fact is it didn't or I didn't know, and my efforts I was prepared to make (which was a few hours) did not pay off.
So... obviously I didn't spend long enough learning, or it takes too long to learn. How long is a piece of string.
When I ran a quake 3 server, which was nice.
Seriously, a nice, compartmentalised, light weight, organised linux will come when some people accept some change.
I would like to see etc bin sbin lib blah foo moo schmoo gone, and have an easier to understand, less distributed file system. Fixing the ability to remove and add components of the 'OS' i.e. key apps and user apps, will help cut bloat, and allow people to choose more software for trial basis, and cut it out again.
Every time I say this I get linux udernerds saying: package management rocks, and then I read articles that say there is proof that it is hard / goes belly up. I can only draw on my own expeirences of getting a few simple apps installed at various times.
Right now someone shoudl blow the whistle on 'what is a distro' and show how much each distro uses of each other, and what is 'distro' and what are packages, etc. SuSe for instance is a set of config scripts (related to yast), a package management 'dictionary', YaSt, and some icons, maybe more. Who knows.
Molly Sugden!
His defense:
If someone wants to connect to the network, they reciprocate an intention to accept connections back.
If someone runs a web server to host a web page, does it mean if you access that webpage, you are breaking the law?
Surely the configuration of a wireless device can be deemed an explicit permission, because network security uses words like 'default allow, default deny', and if the computer which ran the stack, which accessed the network, which read the 'hello your welcome sign' allowed this to happen, and people in the court think it shouldn't, then the person who wrote the EVIL TROJ4N L33t network drivers should be to blame, or the RFC guys.
So, lets just see how we can implicate M$ and SCO and move onto finding a way to convince 1up.com to remove their fucking > music off their page. ffffffbah.
The web page linked has some embedded audio, couldn't turn it off. How can I listen to my music, and read this article at the same time?
How can someone be such an insensitive clod.
I guess I should read it in lynx. Pah.
I was just about to say something, and I ctrl-f'd just to be sure.
I thought it was the best part, possibly the pinnacle of human achievement!
When I was a kid, designing lego sets was my dream job. Now, I think I have come full circle.
Noooooooooooo!
I preffer the good old technic lego sets, which actually do something engineering wise.
I can show you a video where his appreciation for implants is very distracting! "Hi Bill, thanks for joining us, say hi to Pamela!"
Laugh. I guess if we did have implants, Schizophrenics would have to buy multiple licenes or keep having to reactivate their "Microsoft Short Term Memory" and "Microsoft Faces I Know" software.
Windows: "Hey, you're not Frank!"
Frank (as Alice): "I am not feeling myself today!"
Anyone can get pretty far, because everyone is allowed the right to give their argument, and if you have enough money you could appeal any ridiculous plight. So I do not think it is suprising. I just hope he realises that I have international trademarks on the word STEAL so I want 83.33% of all his earnings. (think about it). I just hope some TEA merchant doesn't try and take a piece of my well thought out pie.
Yeah, well the reason I was asking is because my clients always ask where their few hundred dollars go in the advertising, of course, we keep records, but the IP's don't really make a big pattern, plus it was a curiosity question.
The answer was actually: We are not telling you, although I did talk with one google adsense engineer about my ideas for a script that you can employ that woudl feed session info back to google, so google and see how the user behaves when it enters your website, other kinds of things, of course, they have clever ideas too, it just interested me, and google are a very open company when you talk to the right people.
Yes, everyone knows a few hundred dollars isn't a large google splurge, I didn't say it was.
OK, so hi mr realist.
huge power of the next generation of hardware
,etc, oh piss off.
;-)
What utter bollocks they spout, they say things in the most abstract broad strokes of wow, you can only imagine what it will be like, without longhorn, games will not advance, etc
Who the hell has heard of that site anyway? How can you tell the difference between a 'blog' style site for the sake of a site, and an independant, community focussed site nowwadays?
The ability to put any message anywhere is quite scarey, and Microsoft are doing a good job with all their blogs, which no doubt they will patent and say they invented.
Microsoft are no so much embracing open source, but trying to mimick the actions of an open and adoptive community, those that even fostered such wordfucks like blogging.
So Microsoft are going to great lengths to immitate the spirit of the open and share community, but they just suck.
You know, it wouldn't be that hard for Microsoft to win back a lot of people. Oh yeah it would, I forgot, you can't buy it back, you have to make a change to your core values.
You know, the whole penny arcade 'gabe does xbox' was even more astounding on slashdot.
I cannot believe slashdotters bought into xbox. Anyway, I guess its because the only console I ever had was a CD32
Click for google search link for 'Click Fraud' then click all the click fraud companies google ads - lets see how long it takes to wear out their daily budgets!
DO IT, DO IT NOW!
PS: Has this ever worked on slashdot?
But they didn't seem to want to rock the boat of their solution.
I once asked them, if I click 5 times on an ad, does that get charged 5 times? They said they couldn't say. All they have to do is stop charging someone for the same IP in the same day lets say.
Sure, they would loose 15-20% (guesstimate) of clicks right? But wouldn't the service be better value therefore people would spend more?
Thats all folks.
The former, get in line.
The latter - 12 Eps too much? As a self confessed non-trek* (actuall non star* - neither Trek or Wars!) Although I occassionaly watch them, I would defend the last series of Seinfeld. Although I admit another series wouldn't have hacked it.
"When I hear someone called a celebrity, I think of someone who gets special treatment, never waits in line, and has had sex with Paris Hilton."
Surely that is an oxymoron!
(if you get that, and have mod point, bless you)
Definately get this game, I played it on my dx2, back in the day when it was across, and the graphics were sparse, I look at online time records today, and I think, I am sure I beat that once.
That game is good because of control, I always put forward that games are good if you can have lots of control. Think about it. Simulcrum (I think) was a neat game on amiga, you could morph betwee different shapes, and fly etc... silly putty.. that was fun... *thinks* hunter (amiga, first 3d 3rd person game I played? lots of vehicles).
Robocop 3 was the best gaming/movie franchise, the graphics were unbelievable, and it had atmosphere.
If you want to try a game like elastomania, goto miniclip.com and look for Trials game, that version is in Java, great graphics. Uses a bitmap collision map, so you can actually make your own levels with the demo, but, you know, keep it quiet.
When we were kids, Double Dragon was all had, and there was nothing better, so we were engrossed in playing that really lame game.
:-) with random fun plugged in.
That brings back little nostaligia, as I never really liked it. At the arcade it was always someone else who wanted a 2 player game.
Wonder boy in monster land, now I clocked that with 885,000 odd score, possibly the world record, and on 1 ten pence piece I might add. Yes, I could kill any boss within a few second (down down, jump slap attack - repeat).
Going back to that, I had nostalgia, but I also enjoyed playing it! I played it a good 20 minutes before I got killed, and then bored.
Adventure games - I would probably replay DOTT and S&M and also Loom and those others, heck, Another World and Flashback. But I probably wouldn't be arsed to finish them cos of time.
Kingpin - only 5 years old game, I see no foults in playing this again multiplayer (if there are active servers)
Back to old skool, spin dizzy, I can play then game a lot, and also action biker. Paperboy, despite consuming my life between 4 and 7, I don't think I could ever be as good as I used to be... it wouldn't hold my attention today.
Modern games are both dumbed down, and more interactive. maybe someone could remake paper boy as distroboy, and you ride a nice 3d bike up the same view, throwing distro cd's into windows (hahah WINDOWS!) houses.
The map of the city could be fed from xml pulled from google maps for the 3d buildings they use, or any shp file of your choice
I like the fact that games far more elegant than those of old are coming to small devices faster. It is easier and quicker to write a game, you can write arkenoid in 2 hours using flash and action script, because you are now only writing pure game code, nothing else (you are not writing file save code, or graphics code).
I do get bored of 3d gaming. Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, I thought it would cure me, but I was bored after 1 hour... I couldn't do it any more.
I like that flash game where you balance on a rope though.
"researchers found that our learning process was similar to other biological organisms: we're not learning through a series of 0's and 1's"
Wow! Despite the fact that we are non-biological entities, not carbon based at all, we exhibit the same neural based cognitive processes as carbon based, biological, neural based intelligences!
And! We had to invent a binary computing system since 1822 (ok it was not made then) and just now we have realised that our brains are not like... erm... this thing... that people invented...
I think I will have to RTFA to actually decipher if there is any news in this...
ActiveX is the equiv of an Applet, only it doesn't run in a clever sandbox, doesn't support intelligent (and workable, albeit tricky) signed classes.
Yes you can sign activeX controls, but you cannot have a fine grained security profile that gives different zones different privs.
Applets are still very cool, and if anything, I see them being used more and more for high media websites, even at the expense of flash, see lenova's (?) new site for their products.
The European Commission are also using Java in environments that take so much stress there is no other option, and because of its reliability and team oriented nature (the standards in development an close ties to many tools) it has gone 100% Java.
:-)
The biggest hurdle for many people who taught themselves languages like perl, and vb, is they learned in a linear, copy paste way of doing things.
The languages support linear learning. Java does not really.
You need to know what an object is, a primitive, object concepts, method calling, scope and a heap of other things (not even counting the need to know the standard libraries) all at once to really be productive.
I learned VB on the first day of the job, when I said I could do it, and got the job. (oh so many painful years ago....
SO they can still get the pr0n. Be careful son, you might go...
I must say, without being able to see the website in question, it can be tough trusting sites, and the usability on the web, with image navigation etc, it hard enough for a seeing/hearing person.
Not even his posted comment, but to him, he is objectionable:
Next stop, annoying Flash intros.
Right... the processor that will run the JVM, if not a specific Java chip, then the DVD will certainly have a chip capable of running an embedded flash player.
Now. I have to shout sorry:
FLASH IS A DISPLAY / VECTOR ANIMATION TECHNOLOGY.
1) It has nothing to do with Java - THIS news is AWESOME and I look forward to being able to write my own programs to take screen caps, and write a whimsical comment while the player is playing, and email it to a friend. Or keep a log of my movies and ratings as I watch them, or write a book mark sharing XML format, and wire it to the remote, so you can bookmark film locations, and plug your own audio commentary on them. (think about wedding videos / holiday video, and you will see why this is nice - but also for mainstream stuff)
2) So, Java can do games and animation, and even there are Java flash players, and SVG players, and MPEG4 players. Just because the technology is there, doesn't mean annoying 'Flash' (unrelated) intros.
3) *ahem*
What is more annoying is the abundance of unskipable content on DVD's, and this has nothing to do with either of the unrelated technologies that you have mentioned.
If this can be screwed off, I would be happier, I still haven't had time to look for a firmware hack for my DVD player.
Anyway.
By back yard I mean generally in the same hemisphere.
Lest we forget:
Chernobyl
and
Annotated
Thanks to googlesightseeing for the links.
XBZMSTZ - there I am not a fucking script. Tee guy who decided they needed a script for every login as an asshole. Have it for signups, have it for AC posts. NOT FOR EVERY FUCKING LOGIN. Asshole. Even worse, he is just stupid. Illogical. Bad designer.
show me a linux distro aimed at home users
I shouldn't have to say anything else on that argument. You even quoted it in your subject.
Gentoo? Fedora? Try Ubuntu or SuSe (even).
OOI what other 'home' friendly distros are there? I want as few options and choices, max support, and lots of NON DEVELOPMENT non techie things installed, and not cheapo games or a million shells.
Anything I can give as a choice to someone without regretting it later.
Etymology too much of a weak subject for you?
It was on topic, insightful an humorous!
I have a cult following, I can't walk down the street in south america!
look Sergio Mendez!
Season 4, its a killer.
No it just means people don't ask, and companies don't want to be seen as giving the 'reduced version'. People don't understand this, and as far as I am concerned, the whole problem with Microsoft and its abuse was cut down to some fairy arguments, and then those were made to stick.
It does a lot worse things.
Anyway, show me a linux distro aimed at home users whose default install doesn't have mp3/ogg/xmms etc.
Happy microsoft got slammed? Yes. Give a shit about the hole XP N thing? No.
Will it open people eyes? No, because form their perspective nothign has changed, unless you meant the distributors, who work on supply and demand, and will start taking space away from their m^2 floors as and when it will be profitable to do so.
Right now, they don't see it. Now the price of hardware is exacerbating the percentage of cost that goes to an OS, *that* might make a difference.
Tallyho.
SCO
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hahahahahahaha. Seriously. Hey look, some ascii art! rolf: can you guess what it is yet?
2002...2005
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oooooo\
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SCO's cash flow! muahahahahahahahaha