"Do you really walk around thinking you don't have free will?"
Yes.
"Intuitively we grasp that our actions have consequences, and that, in order to get the consequences we want, we have to choose the right actions."
We have to 'perform' the right actions. And you assume that you are free to choose the consequences that you want, which of course, you aren't.
"We all do stupid things, and a lot of people try to pass off the responsibility for their actions to other people, but as a society we have decided to hold each accountable for their own deeds."
Probably yes, but that's got nothing to do with whether strong free-will actually exists. Societies protects themselves, that is why people are punished and deterred, it's convenient (but unnecessary) to justify it by claiming freedom of choice.
"You declare your religious affiliation based on your religious beliefs."
Are you claiming that religious beliefs are not chosen? Do you think they are genetically or culturally determined and you cannot change them? Are you referring to the gullibility gene?
Many believers I know would claim that the choice to 'have faith' is critical to their spirituality. I don't know how having faith in the unknowable can be anything other than choice.
Equally, your political agenda is a choice, as are your political allegiances both as a consequence of, and independently of your agenda.
Do you think it is impossible to become a Muslim other than by birth?
Or have I missed your point and you agree that belief is choice, but that the associated affiliation is not a choice? If so I still think you are wrong.
Ubuntu makes me smile as well. Debian with 2.6 refused to install on my Dell Precision M70, and 2.4 installed but without wifi unless I was prepared to build some dubious port by a guy who claims to not own the hardware so any install is at users own risk.
But ubuntu with 2.6 installed great and found wifi fine.
Until you need to play some WMV3 video.... then its a boot into windows. sigh
You say 'we as a society have a problem...' - this is assumes that I agree with your understanding of society, and also that I think it is something worth 'taking the challenges for'. I probably don't.
You are of course right that all I know of you is from two or three comments in this thread, but I replied because of the way that that you express your ideas and the content. Combined these impressions made we want to demonstrate that I at least disagree with you.
Although I think we would actually agree on many things, I think you are hiding your ulterior motive, which is religious. Of course you are welcome to any beliefs, but to imply that just by 'realising' something all your desire to escape was 'cured' is IMO, dishonest.
I don't want to stick an asshole sticker on you. I wanted you to realise that just because you think you have an idea how things could be, or what people really need, you will encounter resistance precisely because of those claims. You state that 99.9% of the population are heading for self-destruction. This is preaching, not inspiring or sharing.
I'd like to know what you did to assuage desires to escape, or become enlightened, either of those might be inspiring or helpful, but simple assertion that most people are 'wrong' somehow because they don't do as you claim they should is bigoted.
I don't have the answers, but I don't see the need to invoke the supernatural to create some. I also don't see how denying the cruel bloody and capricious nature of life helps. For many, ney most, escapism is a practical way to relax and live (for a while) without some of the less-pleasant aspects of their life.
If your answer boils down to -"they should accept God"- then where is no point continuing.
"Why escape at all?" Maybe people aren't interested in becoming self-congratulatory prudes?
Who says being 'interesting, enlightened and productive' is the correct choice or is even a laudable goal in the first place?
While I expect I agree with you about excessive escapism in modern society being related to intellectual spoon-feeding, if more people were like you, I'd definately be trying to escape. You may have found something that works for you, but being so holier-than-thou just makes you sound desperate to get some validation.
Oh, and if your opinions about drugs(from a previous post in this thread) are as strong as you claim, you've thrown away all your favourite CDs, art and fiction right?
There is no 'evolutionary origin theory' outside of pop-sci and Sunday school. Evolution neithers requires nor cares about whether life came from non-life. To claim that it does seems like a straw man to me.
Your claim that un-changing constants are fundamental premises for evolutionary-origin is half-right. It sounds like the assumption that the universe is as it appears and follows natural laws - pretty much a fundamental for science in general.
As many others have pointed out, the explanation offered by IDers actually only shifts the origin question one step higher.
"the hard to memorize and communicate Square, Cross, Circel, Triangle naming"
Yeah I found those completely unfamiliar, hard to draw, obscure shapes really hard to remember as well. For the first two minutes.
Hard to communicate? "Press square."
I think people have differently scaled hands, some find PS2 controllers fine, others prefer XBox controllers. To diss a console based on the fact that they chose an alternate hand-scale for their design suggests that either you are a freak, or they aren't aiming at you. Maybe why XBox controller is big (US) and PS2 is smaller (Asia). I guess us Euros sitting in the middle have it lucky (assuming we have median scaled hands).
Oops, in the interest of discussion, RE is a human trait. There should be nothing wrong with RE for non-profit. Selling someone elses idea however should not be allowed for a period after invention. If its copied and given away then well it all gets messy doesn't it. Copy != lost sale etc.
Is there a Linus quote archive somewhere that might contain his opinions on RE/IP? Maybe it would be interesting to see if his opinion has changed?
"In essence the screen is divided vertically in two parts; one graphics card renders the upper section and the second graphics card renders the lower section. The load balancing algorithms however allow it to distribute the load across the graphics processors. Initially they'll both start out at 50% but this ratio can change depending on the load."
Yup, Battlefield is great. Lots of depth for a fps (tanks, jeeps, aircraft, naval craft, out of sight artillery) and a burgeoning mod community supporting WW1, Korean wars, and sci-fi settings. Desert Combat (DC mentioned by parent) was voted best mod of 2003 by someone somewhere. Team work can win a game, but solo play is very rewarding as well.
After playing moderately over a weekend (6-7hrs) I am certainly 'influenced' by GTA3.
Walking past a police car having finished playing I will have a look thinking 'how foolish to leave a police car there, maybe there's ammo in it'. Seeing a helicopter of any form may have me considering the line of sight and availability of get-away cars.
But these thoughts are in the context of the game, they are fleeting and humorous. We are all aware that things we do affect our outlook. Skateboarder game players will look at street scenery in a similar way to RL boarders, although in the context of the game. Carpenters look at furniture differently to the way I do, some people make judgements about status based on the shoes they wear.
This is just a simple summary, but surely as a species we've noticed the trend to be influenced by everything we do. The argument isn't about that.
As has been stated many times before, most more effectively, even people with serious problems need influences.
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"Do you really walk around thinking you don't have free will?"
Yes.
"Intuitively we grasp that our actions have consequences, and that, in order to get the consequences we want, we have to choose the right actions."
We have to 'perform' the right actions. And you assume that you are free to choose the consequences that you want, which of course, you aren't.
"We all do stupid things, and a lot of people try to pass off the responsibility for their actions to other people, but as a society we have decided to hold each accountable for their own deeds."
Probably yes, but that's got nothing to do with whether strong free-will actually exists. Societies protects themselves, that is why people are punished and deterred, it's convenient (but unnecessary) to justify it by claiming freedom of choice.
I think you are wrong.
"You declare your religious affiliation based on your religious beliefs."
Are you claiming that religious beliefs are not chosen? Do you think they are genetically or culturally determined and you cannot change them? Are you referring to the gullibility gene?
Many believers I know would claim that the choice to 'have faith' is critical to their spirituality. I don't know how having faith in the unknowable can be anything other than choice.
Equally, your political agenda is a choice, as are your political allegiances both as a consequence of, and independently of your agenda.
Do you think it is impossible to become a Muslim other than by birth?
Or have I missed your point and you agree that belief is choice, but that the associated affiliation is not a choice? If so I still think you are wrong.
ubuntu == debian++ ?
Ubuntu makes me smile as well. Debian with 2.6 refused to install on my Dell Precision M70, and 2.4 installed but without wifi unless I was prepared to build some dubious port by a guy who claims to not own the hardware so any install is at users own risk.
But ubuntu with 2.6 installed great and found wifi fine.
Until you need to play some WMV3 video.... then its a boot into windows. sigh
Will you test if jet-fuel burning in air can melt/soften steel?
You say 'we as a society have a problem...' - this is assumes that I agree with your understanding of society, and also that I think it is something worth 'taking the challenges for'. I probably don't.
;)
You are of course right that all I know of you is from two or three comments in this thread, but I replied because of the way that that you express your ideas and the content. Combined these impressions made we want to demonstrate that I at least disagree with you.
Although I think we would actually agree on many things, I think you are hiding your ulterior motive, which is religious. Of course you are welcome to any beliefs, but to imply that just by 'realising' something all your desire to escape was 'cured' is IMO, dishonest.
I don't want to stick an asshole sticker on you. I wanted you to realise that just because you think you have an idea how things could be, or what people really need, you will encounter resistance precisely because of those claims. You state that 99.9% of the population are heading for self-destruction. This is preaching, not inspiring or sharing.
I'd like to know what you did to assuage desires to escape, or become enlightened, either of those might be inspiring or helpful, but simple assertion that most people are 'wrong' somehow because they don't do as you claim they should is bigoted.
I don't have the answers, but I don't see the need to invoke the supernatural to create some. I also don't see how denying the cruel bloody and capricious nature of life helps. For many, ney most, escapism is a practical way to relax and live (for a while) without some of the less-pleasant aspects of their life.
If your answer boils down to -"they should accept God"- then where is no point continuing.
Forgive me if I am completely off-base here
"Why escape at all?"
Maybe people aren't interested in becoming self-congratulatory prudes?
Who says being 'interesting, enlightened and productive' is the correct choice or is even a laudable goal in the first place?
While I expect I agree with you about excessive escapism in modern society being related to intellectual spoon-feeding, if more people were like you, I'd definately be trying to escape. You may have found something that works for you, but being so holier-than-thou just makes you sound desperate to get some validation.
Oh, and if your opinions about drugs(from a previous post in this thread) are as strong as you claim, you've thrown away all your favourite CDs, art and fiction right?
There is no 'evolutionary origin theory' outside of pop-sci and Sunday school. Evolution neithers requires nor cares about whether life came from non-life. To claim that it does seems like a straw man to me.
Your claim that un-changing constants are fundamental premises for evolutionary-origin is half-right. It sounds like the assumption that the universe is as it appears and follows natural laws - pretty much a fundamental for science in general.
As many others have pointed out, the explanation offered by IDers actually only shifts the origin question one step higher.
"the hard to memorize and communicate Square, Cross, Circel, Triangle naming"
Yeah I found those completely unfamiliar, hard to draw, obscure shapes really hard to remember as well. For the first two minutes.
Hard to communicate? "Press square."
I think people have differently scaled hands, some find PS2 controllers fine, others prefer XBox controllers. To diss a console based on the fact that they chose an alternate hand-scale for their design suggests that either you are a freak, or they aren't aiming at you. Maybe why XBox controller is big (US) and PS2 is smaller (Asia). I guess us Euros sitting in the middle have it lucky (assuming we have median scaled hands).
I'll shut up now.
Nah, a Jedi would deflect one bullet at his maximum reach, another at medium reach and the final bullet at close reach. One swipe.
I mean, it's a Jedi!
Oops, in the interest of discussion, RE is a human trait.
There should be nothing wrong with RE for non-profit. Selling someone elses idea however should not be allowed for a period after invention. If its copied and given away then well it all gets messy doesn't it. Copy != lost sale etc.
Is there a Linus quote archive somewhere that might contain his opinions on RE/IP? Maybe it would be interesting to see if his opinion has changed?
Lies!
The headline writer is either malicious or inept. Or both.
I'd like to know your reason as well.
Ok, so I read it.
Whats to stop people re-publishing any content and then linking to it? The copyright parody the paper mocks is still there.
I'm probably missing something.
from the article :
"In essence the screen is divided vertically in two parts; one graphics card renders the upper section and the second graphics card renders the lower section. The load balancing algorithms however allow it to distribute the load across the graphics processors. Initially they'll both start out at 50% but this ratio can change depending on the load."
Um, so it stacks up identically?
Yup, Battlefield is great. Lots of depth for a fps (tanks, jeeps, aircraft, naval craft, out of sight artillery) and a burgeoning mod community supporting WW1, Korean wars, and sci-fi settings. Desert Combat (DC mentioned by parent) was voted best mod of 2003 by someone somewhere. Team work can win a game, but solo play is very rewarding as well.
As much as I'd like to say this is true for me, it just isn't. Sometimes I actually enjoy watching well-written TV ads.
We've about run out of imagination on this planet then.
Buy an IPod and you deserve it. Creative for one sell two very good MP3 players with replaceable LIon batteries.
IPod owners are fashion victims. Get over it.
It's art irony and hacking in one....
:)
Rock on
In your country maybe.
After playing moderately over a weekend (6-7hrs) I am certainly 'influenced' by GTA3.
Walking past a police car having finished playing I will have a look thinking 'how foolish to leave a police car there, maybe there's ammo in it'. Seeing a helicopter of any form may have me considering the line of sight and availability of get-away cars.
But these thoughts are in the context of the game, they are fleeting and humorous. We are all aware that things we do affect our outlook. Skateboarder game players will look at street scenery in a similar way to RL boarders, although in the context of the game. Carpenters look at furniture differently to the way I do, some people make judgements about status based on the shoes they wear.
This is just a simple summary, but surely as a species we've noticed the trend to be influenced by everything we do. The argument isn't about that.
As has been stated many times before, most more effectively, even people with serious problems need influences.
"Ads more than likely come in a playlist, where they are displayed as a clip before the actual media."
Not anymore.
The latest windows media servers perform server side ad-insertion (profiled and targeted of course).
We live in a place were there is a rule equivalent to - you cannot make something do thing and !thing simultaneously.
Maybe God applied that rule. Maybe he could remove it to demonstrate. It might be a little confusing though. I'd rather he didn't.
"Ergo, skip the GMT and start using UTC."
Idiot. UTC is GMT.
Read this.
mod parent down
You need a valid license for the content you wish to decrypt.
Not only does it work FINE on Win2K for ordinary players, but it also works fine with individualized players using the indivbox.key(dll).
Respect to Beale Screamer.