I can see it now...a few of the autonomous bots go on a rampage, and then they get caught...and somehow, they've advanced to learn psi powers! *wavey hand* "These are not the bots you're looking for..."
Well, you clearly don't know the right people. At least half of my friends are hyped about it, myself included. Honestly - it's far better to have a good, well-made game, either with a phenomenal story or phenomenal gameplay; preferably both. Games are best when able to play them repeatedly for years to come - like an entertainment investment or something along those lines. If it's done right, I'd wait another 5 years for the blasted thing - make a game replayable, and I for one will be willing to wait however long for the next awesome seller.:)
Kids have no right to privacy when it comes to areas that can cause them harm.
My kids love me when I setup gaurdrails!
Clearly you've brainwashed them, and they shouldn't even need monitoring as they are effectively mindless drones.
As a kid I always found I learned best finding things out on my own, and if I got hurt along the way that only made me cautious of doing it again. Think of your guardrails as a dam. Only, your dam will eventually have to come down once your kids are older. When a dam breaks down, either on purpose or through some fault or another, it will be hell. It could not be, depending upon the kids' dispositions and all that, but it might be better to give them a bit more privacy, at least gradually. Or, instead of taking privacy, simply set limits on what they can and can't do. I don't think a kid really has a need for IM or email, etc, until at least 10 years old, even in this day and age. Don't get me wrong, protecting your children is fine, but overprotection is just cruel, and one day they will realize that. (Mind, I have no idea how old your kids are now, but once a kid reaches age 10 or so you should really step it down a bit..)
Personally I think videogames make great art, regardless of all of that, but even still, they are most definitely not just for males! Sure, you have a fair few far-too-chesty females in scanty clothing, but even with that, I know a good deal of female gamers, young _and_ old. Honestly, I was slightly taken aback by your post, being one myself. Perhaps the case is simply you havn't met many, regardless of what any polls and such say about the case. Sure, females have been the minority in gaming over the years, but that doesn't mean we're nonexistant as you seem to imply. Hell, I've lived with four by random chance (and these were roommates, not simply people around the dorm building, mind you - there were also a good few others around the building). Ah well...ranting over, but females do exist in the gaming world, dammit!
Has no one played Dreamfall: The Longest Journey??? (Note: I did not have time to read prior comments, apologize if this was already mentioned...) I finished that game recently, it came out April of this year, and I was thoroughly impressed. Yes, it's an adventure game...and it was awesome. I'm just sitting here waiting for the sequel...and I find this article. *shakes head* It makes me sad. Adventure games are wonderful.
His critter?!?! Never underestimate the power of the miniature giant space hamster! Boo has a name, curse you, a name!! (And it's Minsc, too *shakes head*)
While I will say I do enjoy a good RPG (although _please_ less shiny more gameplay to the extent of holy-crap-why-did-my-mom-sell-my-NES-without-telli ng-me...and that goes for all games really) but back to the point...I enjoy as many of the same games as my guy friends, fps, metroid, halo, ut, wc3, bf1942, dc, cs, etc etc, and my roommate as well. I'm female for those who are unable to realize this at this point...and if you ask me, you can't simply categorize what women play. (I HATE the Sims, and look how women are categorized as liking that). It's just silly and ultimately pointless, as everyone has their own opinion on things.
With regards to who I play, it doesn't particularly matter, from experience. Males tend to be a bit more cocky, which makes it more fun when they get completely owned...but that's not the point. The point is both male and females provide an adequate challenge, although I hate it when females use the excuse of being bad because they're female. I'm sorry, but it just doesn't work like that. With that in mind, guys, please don't go easy on us because we're women. It's just pisses us off. We want to beat you when you're actually trying, ya know? (and no, I don't always win, I'm just saying it's a nice thing).
Also, I've played my fair share of games on battlenet and the like, and while a lot of the time no one really bothers asking if I'm female, nor do I tell it unless they ask, but mostly people don't particularly care. And if they do, they are better off ignored, as then they will shut up and pay attention. That is, if they're on your team. I will admit, it is a useful distraction sometimes when they happen to be the opposition and I'm, say, hiding in the woods in DotA waiting for him to move just a little bit farther down the path. Of course, it's just like taunting and enough people do that already.
Ah, but you are forgetting that there are many gamers, myself included, that are still in the teen -age years and like the older games better. A few of my friends and I are getting fed up with the focus on making a game prettier with graphics. Give us the gameplay back, I say. Basically, nostalgia just isn't it.
I use both, although the 'slender fox wins on many occasions. For one thing, this fox is not just slender and tricksy in magical ways, it is also swift. Ninja-like, almost. How could you possibly choose the fat lady over the ninja-like goodness of a tricksy little fox that will retrieve your website before the website even knows what hit it...
*shakes head* All of this is just crazy. There is no one 'girl gamer' type that covers it for all of us. It's all a matter of opinion. I love talking about guns and violence and killing as much as guy gamers do. I have one other 'girl gamer' friend that does, another that doesn't, and a third that's in the middle. That's just how it goes, really. You can't just put a label on all of us, it's never going to work.
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The girl gamers who've always gotten highly publicized and fawned on have tended to be FPS players and such who can 'hang with the guys'. But most women I know who game without making a big deal out of it tend to like different sorts of RPGs, simulations, and games with simple interfaces (puzzlers, old-school shooters, Katamari Damacy, etc)
I couldn't agree more. All of my female friends tend to like the puzzle/sim-type games. I tend not to. I think that's where the whole 'hang with the guys' part comes from...the females that are given 'publicity' in gaming are the ones that the guys -see- gaming, namely the ones that are interested in the same games. For me, I could get maybe three of my female friends to play and FPS with me, and poorly at that. Screw that, I'm gonna go chill with the guys.
I concur. This is such rubbish, too. The farthest that any policing on videogame violence should go is with parents. If parents don't want their kids playing a game because of violence or something of that nature, they can take the darn game and sell it, end of problem (however sad it would be for the kid, I'm sure). Entirely fruitless and nothing but a way to aggravate people, such as myself. This better not pass.
Quite honestly, there's really no point in making your gender known (except maybe on a related subject like this) and it shouldn't make a difference in the attention that either females or males get. I keep reading in this about how the problem could be gender bias - females in the industry being intimidated or what have you by males. I have yet to see mention of another gender bias. Life is not just about the workplace; did it ever occur that other females could be influencing a bias?
I know at my highschool my friends and I are the few out of roughly 300 females that seriously care for I.T. sorts of things, and I'm not even sure who out of us besides me is actually considering the field. At the highschool in my hometown, which is much larger than my highschool, I could honestly say that the vast majority of girls are interested in other things. Out of these, there are probably a few that could be interested in CS, but they have never gotten the chance because of what the other girls expect from them.
When I am home, I'm usually doing something or another on my computer, whether it be coding, gaming or browsing/. and I would get a call from one of my hometown friends, wanting to go out and do something because they were bored. I wasn't bored; I was perfectly content. I suggest anything regarding a computer to them and they say it's boring, I'm such a nerd, and they want to go watch a movie or sit someplace and talk, and this goes for just about all of them, maybe two exceptions that I know of. It is frustrating, but I've already been caught up in CS (and I have my brother to thank for getting started with it, mostly). For other females, this usually isn't the case and if they start looking it to it, they tend to get drawn away or frustrated. In a field that is dominated by men, a woman would have to be independant and determined to shake off the bias from both men and other women, and not many can really do that from my experience.
I agree fully with that. Video games are huge at my highschool, not to mention a lot of the kids, at least all of the ones I hang around with, are amused by the slightest things, so simple works nicely.
That would be a change. I know some guys that won't even let me play bfv simply because I just so happen to be a chick....You definitely have the right idea.
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I can see it now...a few of the autonomous bots go on a rampage, and then they get caught...and somehow, they've advanced to learn psi powers! *wavey hand* "These are not the bots you're looking for..."
Well, you clearly don't know the right people. At least half of my friends are hyped about it, myself included. Honestly - it's far better to have a good, well-made game, either with a phenomenal story or phenomenal gameplay; preferably both. Games are best when able to play them repeatedly for years to come - like an entertainment investment or something along those lines. If it's done right, I'd wait another 5 years for the blasted thing - make a game replayable, and I for one will be willing to wait however long for the next awesome seller. :)
As a kid I always found I learned best finding things out on my own, and if I got hurt along the way that only made me cautious of doing it again. Think of your guardrails as a dam. Only, your dam will eventually have to come down once your kids are older. When a dam breaks down, either on purpose or through some fault or another, it will be hell. It could not be, depending upon the kids' dispositions and all that, but it might be better to give them a bit more privacy, at least gradually. Or, instead of taking privacy, simply set limits on what they can and can't do. I don't think a kid really has a need for IM or email, etc, until at least 10 years old, even in this day and age. Don't get me wrong, protecting your children is fine, but overprotection is just cruel, and one day they will realize that. (Mind, I have no idea how old your kids are now, but once a kid reaches age 10 or so you should really step it down a bit..)
Personally I think videogames make great art, regardless of all of that, but even still, they are most definitely not just for males! Sure, you have a fair few far-too-chesty females in scanty clothing, but even with that, I know a good deal of female gamers, young _and_ old. Honestly, I was slightly taken aback by your post, being one myself. Perhaps the case is simply you havn't met many, regardless of what any polls and such say about the case. Sure, females have been the minority in gaming over the years, but that doesn't mean we're nonexistant as you seem to imply. Hell, I've lived with four by random chance (and these were roommates, not simply people around the dorm building, mind you - there were also a good few others around the building). Ah well...ranting over, but females do exist in the gaming world, dammit!
Has no one played Dreamfall: The Longest Journey??? (Note: I did not have time to read prior comments, apologize if this was already mentioned...) I finished that game recently, it came out April of this year, and I was thoroughly impressed. Yes, it's an adventure game...and it was awesome. I'm just sitting here waiting for the sequel...and I find this article. *shakes head* It makes me sad. Adventure games are wonderful.
His critter?!?! Never underestimate the power of the miniature giant space hamster! Boo has a name, curse you, a name!! (And it's Minsc, too *shakes head*)
While I will say I do enjoy a good RPG (although _please_ less shiny more gameplay to the extent of holy-crap-why-did-my-mom-sell-my-NES-without-telli ng-me...and that goes for all games really) but back to the point...I enjoy as many of the same games as my guy friends, fps, metroid, halo, ut, wc3, bf1942, dc, cs, etc etc, and my roommate as well. I'm female for those who are unable to realize this at this point...and if you ask me, you can't simply categorize what women play. (I HATE the Sims, and look how women are categorized as liking that). It's just silly and ultimately pointless, as everyone has their own opinion on things.
With regards to who I play, it doesn't particularly matter, from experience. Males tend to be a bit more cocky, which makes it more fun when they get completely owned...but that's not the point. The point is both male and females provide an adequate challenge, although I hate it when females use the excuse of being bad because they're female. I'm sorry, but it just doesn't work like that. With that in mind, guys, please don't go easy on us because we're women. It's just pisses us off. We want to beat you when you're actually trying, ya know? (and no, I don't always win, I'm just saying it's a nice thing).
Also, I've played my fair share of games on battlenet and the like, and while a lot of the time no one really bothers asking if I'm female, nor do I tell it unless they ask, but mostly people don't particularly care. And if they do, they are better off ignored, as then they will shut up and pay attention. That is, if they're on your team. I will admit, it is a useful distraction sometimes when they happen to be the opposition and I'm, say, hiding in the woods in DotA waiting for him to move just a little bit farther down the path. Of course, it's just like taunting and enough people do that already.
Ah, but you are forgetting that there are many gamers, myself included, that are still in the teen -age years and like the older games better. A few of my friends and I are getting fed up with the focus on making a game prettier with graphics. Give us the gameplay back, I say. Basically, nostalgia just isn't it.
I use both, although the 'slender fox wins on many occasions. For one thing, this fox is not just slender and tricksy in magical ways, it is also swift. Ninja-like, almost. How could you possibly choose the fat lady over the ninja-like goodness of a tricksy little fox that will retrieve your website before the website even knows what hit it...
RTS: Starcraft - I have a whole network of friends who still play that...and it's how old?
*shakes head* All of this is just crazy. There is no one 'girl gamer' type that covers it for all of us. It's all a matter of opinion. I love talking about guns and violence and killing as much as guy gamers do. I have one other 'girl gamer' friend that does, another that doesn't, and a third that's in the middle. That's just how it goes, really. You can't just put a label on all of us, it's never going to work.
The girl gamers who've always gotten highly publicized and fawned on have tended to be FPS players and such who can 'hang with the guys'. But most women I know who game without making a big deal out of it tend to like different sorts of RPGs, simulations, and games with simple interfaces (puzzlers, old-school shooters, Katamari Damacy, etc) I couldn't agree more. All of my female friends tend to like the puzzle/sim-type games. I tend not to. I think that's where the whole 'hang with the guys' part comes from...the females that are given 'publicity' in gaming are the ones that the guys -see- gaming, namely the ones that are interested in the same games. For me, I could get maybe three of my female friends to play and FPS with me, and poorly at that. Screw that, I'm gonna go chill with the guys.
I concur. This is such rubbish, too. The farthest that any policing on videogame violence should go is with parents. If parents don't want their kids playing a game because of violence or something of that nature, they can take the darn game and sell it, end of problem (however sad it would be for the kid, I'm sure). Entirely fruitless and nothing but a way to aggravate people, such as myself. This better not pass.
I havn't been bullied with the term and I consider it a compliment....I'm a real person, too, aren't I?
Quite honestly, there's really no point in making your gender known (except maybe on a related subject like this) and it shouldn't make a difference in the attention that either females or males get. I keep reading in this about how the problem could be gender bias - females in the industry being intimidated or what have you by males. I have yet to see mention of another gender bias. Life is not just about the workplace; did it ever occur that other females could be influencing a bias?
/. and I would get a call from one of my hometown friends, wanting to go out and do something because they were bored. I wasn't bored; I was perfectly content. I suggest anything regarding a computer to them and they say it's boring, I'm such a nerd, and they want to go watch a movie or sit someplace and talk, and this goes for just about all of them, maybe two exceptions that I know of. It is frustrating, but I've already been caught up in CS (and I have my brother to thank for getting started with it, mostly). For other females, this usually isn't the case and if they start looking it to it, they tend to get drawn away or frustrated. In a field that is dominated by men, a woman would have to be independant and determined to shake off the bias from both men and other women, and not many can really do that from my experience.
I know at my highschool my friends and I are the few out of roughly 300 females that seriously care for I.T. sorts of things, and I'm not even sure who out of us besides me is actually considering the field. At the highschool in my hometown, which is much larger than my highschool, I could honestly say that the vast majority of girls are interested in other things. Out of these, there are probably a few that could be interested in CS, but they have never gotten the chance because of what the other girls expect from them.
When I am home, I'm usually doing something or another on my computer, whether it be coding, gaming or browsing
Exactly. Go join the gaming fun....no need for silly "game widows" thing...but then again maybe I'm just an odd female...oh well...
I agree fully with that. Video games are huge at my highschool, not to mention a lot of the kids, at least all of the ones I hang around with, are amused by the slightest things, so simple works nicely.
That would be a change. I know some guys that won't even let me play bfv simply because I just so happen to be a chick....You definitely have the right idea.